Shaming Scummy Realtors

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like OP has done a lot of sock-puppeting on this thread.

If someone were to dox you online just because they had a workplace disagreement with you, would you think that was fair?

You are irrational and your reflex is to be cruel. I hope I don't know you in real life, OP.

Mentioning a realtor who you think was scammy isn't doxing them unless you list their home address and suggest people go to their homes and confront them. They are in a public-facing business. OP would not have any problem with the realtor whatsoever if they realtor had simply accepted that OP was going to select someone else, rather than deciding to write a nasty reason for why OP was making a mistake.

People complain loudly all the time about local restaurants or retailers or whomever that they think have somehow aggrieved them, but it isn't doxing to do that.

I'm not sure why you would believe that OP's assessment of the realtors or any aspect of the situation is reality based. Her perceptions are clearly biased and inaccurate.

Beside the point…it’s not Doxing anyone to criticize a professional for something you think they did wrong in their professional capacity.

+1.

And how in the hell can you 'dox' someone who literally has pictures of their face, cell number, and email address hanging on signs all over town????

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I actually think it’s a bit scammy of homeowners to do next to nothing to their homes other than a renovation 11 years ago and expect $$$. That’s a real small house for that price.

There is nothing scammy about that. The market will set them straight. Real estate agents who lie non stop - now that's scammy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The scummy realtors are in the back pocket of a spec developer who want to acquire your estate sale on the cheap. They want that land.

There’s a realtor in our neighborhood in NW DC who hovers like a hawk when one of the old long time residents die. She is very good at convincing the out of town family members to sell off market to her developer clients for 15-20% below fair market value.

Those realtors are not working for you; they are working for their repeat clients (developers). Stick to your guns and don’t let them abuse you & low ball.

+100.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seems like OP has done a lot of sock-puppeting on this thread.

If someone were to dox you online just because they had a workplace disagreement with you, would you think that was fair?

You are irrational and your reflex is to be cruel. I hope I don't know you in real life, OP.

I'm not op and I am definitely fed up with and do not trust real estate agents. There are so many incompetent and dishonest agents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The scummy realtors are in the back pocket of a spec developer who want to acquire your estate sale on the cheap. They want that land.

There’s a realtor in our neighborhood in NW DC who hovers like a hawk when one of the old long time residents die. She is very good at convincing the out of town family members to sell off market to her developer clients for 15-20% below fair market value.

Those realtors are not working for you; they are working for their repeat clients (developers). Stick to your guns and don’t let them abuse you & low ball.

This. It sounds like OP's parents property is a candidate for a tear down if it's in a desirable part of that zip code. .5 acre lots can command north of 4 mil for new construction homes in some neighborhoods, so developers or families realtors work with are seeking the best deals. It's nothing personal, and OP's parents are not "targeted" or discriminated in any way. These realtors likely cast a very wide net trying to find someone who would give them a deal for a quick sale especially when they have buyers standing by and waiting for a deal to come up. Think of it as a "wholesale" deal.

it's just opportunism and nothing personal. It's your right to just walk away and find someone who would work with you to sell at whatever price you want.

If this is true, then it would be very reasonable for op to post reviews that are factual. It would be completely reasonable for her to post about a poor attitude and that the agent tried to push them to list at a lower price than reasonable. Give others a warning op. The truth isn't slander.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The scummy realtors are in the back pocket of a spec developer who want to acquire your estate sale on the cheap. They want that land.

There’s a realtor in our neighborhood in NW DC who hovers like a hawk when one of the old long time residents die. She is very good at convincing the out of town family members to sell off market to her developer clients for 15-20% below fair market value.

Those realtors are not working for you; they are working for their repeat clients (developers). Stick to your guns and don’t let them abuse you & low ball.

This. It sounds like OP's parents property is a candidate for a tear down if it's in a desirable part of that zip code. .5 acre lots can command north of 4 mil for new construction homes in some neighborhoods, so developers or families realtors work with are seeking the best deals. It's nothing personal, and OP's parents are not "targeted" or discriminated in any way. These realtors likely cast a very wide net trying to find someone who would give them a deal for a quick sale especially when they have buyers standing by and waiting for a deal to come up. Think of it as a "wholesale" deal.

it's just opportunism and nothing personal. It's your right to just walk away and find someone who would work with you to sell at whatever price you want.

If this is true, then it would be very reasonable for op to post reviews that are factual. It would be completely reasonable for her to post about a poor attitude and that the agent tried to push them to list at a lower price than reasonable. Give others a warning op. The truth isn't slander.

If you re-read OP...it's not even that...it's the fact that a couple of realtors, when told OP was not selecting them, thought they should respond with snarky and unsolicited opinions of why OP was making a terrible mistake and how wrong OP was. I am sure other realtors where OP declined their services, thanked OP for being considered and wished OP best of luck and OP left with a positive view of those realtors.

It's just really strange why certain realtors felt the need to respond the way they did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The scummy realtors are in the back pocket of a spec developer who want to acquire your estate sale on the cheap. They want that land.

There’s a realtor in our neighborhood in NW DC who hovers like a hawk when one of the old long time residents die. She is very good at convincing the out of town family members to sell off market to her developer clients for 15-20% below fair market value.

Those realtors are not working for you; they are working for their repeat clients (developers). Stick to your guns and don’t let them abuse you & low ball.

This. It sounds like OP's parents property is a candidate for a tear down if it's in a desirable part of that zip code. .5 acre lots can command north of 4 mil for new construction homes in some neighborhoods, so developers or families realtors work with are seeking the best deals. It's nothing personal, and OP's parents are not "targeted" or discriminated in any way. These realtors likely cast a very wide net trying to find someone who would give them a deal for a quick sale especially when they have buyers standing by and waiting for a deal to come up. Think of it as a "wholesale" deal.

it's just opportunism and nothing personal. It's your right to just walk away and find someone who would work with you to sell at whatever price you want.

If this is true, then it would be very reasonable for op to post reviews that are factual. It would be completely reasonable for her to post about a poor attitude and that the agent tried to push them to list at a lower price than reasonable. Give others a warning op. The truth isn't slander.

If you re-read OP...it's not even that...it's the fact that a couple of realtors, when told OP was not selecting them, thought they should respond with snarky and unsolicited opinions of why OP was making a terrible mistake and how wrong OP was. I am sure other realtors where OP declined their services, thanked OP for being considered and wished OP best of luck and OP left with a positive view of those realtors.

It's just really strange why certain realtors felt the need to respond the way they did.

So what exactly was said there? Because I don't think their responses were strange at all if OP came of as an unhinged nutjob of which there is a non zero possibility considering the batshit reaction to go scorched earth against someone who didn't agree with your unproven assessment of your property value. Two separate and presumably unassociated people who deal with rejection frequently were triggered enough to clap back so it's a big assumption OP is some reasonable person who politely declined their services.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The scummy realtors are in the back pocket of a spec developer who want to acquire your estate sale on the cheap. They want that land.

There’s a realtor in our neighborhood in NW DC who hovers like a hawk when one of the old long time residents die. She is very good at convincing the out of town family members to sell off market to her developer clients for 15-20% below fair market value.

Those realtors are not working for you; they are working for their repeat clients (developers). Stick to your guns and don’t let them abuse you & low ball.

This. It sounds like OP's parents property is a candidate for a tear down if it's in a desirable part of that zip code. .5 acre lots can command north of 4 mil for new construction homes in some neighborhoods, so developers or families realtors work with are seeking the best deals. It's nothing personal, and OP's parents are not "targeted" or discriminated in any way. These realtors likely cast a very wide net trying to find someone who would give them a deal for a quick sale especially when they have buyers standing by and waiting for a deal to come up. Think of it as a "wholesale" deal.

it's just opportunism and nothing personal. It's your right to just walk away and find someone who would work with you to sell at whatever price you want.

If this is true, then it would be very reasonable for op to post reviews that are factual. It would be completely reasonable for her to post about a poor attitude and that the agent tried to push them to list at a lower price than reasonable. Give others a warning op. The truth isn't slander.

If you re-read OP...it's not even that...it's the fact that a couple of realtors, when told OP was not selecting them, thought they should respond with snarky and unsolicited opinions of why OP was making a terrible mistake and how wrong OP was. I am sure other realtors where OP declined their services, thanked OP for being considered and wished OP best of luck and OP left with a positive view of those realtors.

It's just really strange why certain realtors felt the need to respond the way they did.

So what exactly was said there? Because I don't think their responses were strange at all if OP came of as an unhinged nutjob of which there is a non zero possibility considering the batshit reaction to go scorched earth against someone who didn't agree with your unproven assessment of your property value. Two separate and presumably unassociated people who deal with rejection frequently were triggered enough to clap back so it's a big assumption OP is some reasonable person who politely declined their services.

OP is 'batshit'? because they refused to be taken advantage of? I think you need some help. I went through this with vehicles when my dad stopped driving. I took his 3 year old, 9000 mile pristine, garaged Outback to the dealership we bought it at to sell it back. They tried telling me that Subarus had lost so much value recently, this scratch here will cost so much to repair, blah, blah, blah and low balled me by 7 grand. Carmax literally paid me $6900 more than the dealer offered.

I mean, you do know how sales people get paid, right?

[Anonymous]

If it's a smaller house they might be pricing it as a tear down and mostly just for the land value. This is the problem in a place like McLean. Someone will tear this place down and build a $3M mansion on it. I heard Stephen Miller was looking for a new place to live.

[Anonymous]

This is so unthinkably dumb. If a house worth $1.8m is listed for $1.2m guess what, will offer $1.8m.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is so unthinkably dumb. If a house worth $1.8m is listed for $1.2m guess what, will offer $1.8m.

That's not what is happening. This appears to be a 'pocket sale' where the house never hits the MLS. These agents 'have' willing buyers (builders) waiting in the wings to purchase house that never get listed. That's how OP gets screwed.

There is no reason whatsoever to not put a house on the open market. That is where you get the most money.

Theses scummy agents are probably selling this as the easy way. "Don't worry about painting, new carpet etc, we'll handle it all, etc." which may actually be much easier but it's also a good way to leave $100,000 on the table.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The scummy realtors are in the back pocket of a spec developer who want to acquire your estate sale on the cheap. They want that land.

There’s a realtor in our neighborhood in NW DC who hovers like a hawk when one of the old long time residents die. She is very good at convincing the out of town family members to sell off market to her developer clients for 15-20% below fair market value.

Those realtors are not working for you; they are working for their repeat clients (developers). Stick to your guns and don’t let them abuse you & low ball.

This. It sounds like OP's parents property is a candidate for a tear down if it's in a desirable part of that zip code. .5 acre lots can command north of 4 mil for new construction homes in some neighborhoods, so developers or families realtors work with are seeking the best deals. It's nothing personal, and OP's parents are not "targeted" or discriminated in any way. These realtors likely cast a very wide net trying to find someone who would give them a deal for a quick sale especially when they have buyers standing by and waiting for a deal to come up. Think of it as a "wholesale" deal.

it's just opportunism and nothing personal. It's your right to just walk away and find someone who would work with you to sell at whatever price you want.

If this is true, then it would be very reasonable for op to post reviews that are factual. It would be completely reasonable for her to post about a poor attitude and that the agent tried to push them to list at a lower price than reasonable. Give others a warning op. The truth isn't slander.

If you re-read OP...it's not even that...it's the fact that a couple of realtors, when told OP was not selecting them, thought they should respond with snarky and unsolicited opinions of why OP was making a terrible mistake and how wrong OP was. I am sure other realtors where OP declined their services, thanked OP for being considered and wished OP best of luck and OP left with a positive view of those realtors.

It's just really strange why certain realtors felt the need to respond the way they did.

Yes but I asked OP for specifics and she did not respond.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so unthinkably dumb. If a house worth $1.8m is listed for $1.2m guess what, will offer $1.8m.

That's not what is happening. This appears to be a 'pocket sale' where the house never hits the MLS. These agents 'have' willing buyers (builders) waiting in the wings to purchase house that never get listed. That's how OP gets screwed.

There is no reason whatsoever to not put a house on the open market. That is where you get the most money.

Theses scummy agents are probably selling this as the easy way. "Don't worry about painting, new carpet etc, we'll handle it all, etc." which may actually be much easier but it's also a good way to leave $100,000 on the table.

The OP has the final decision on which offer to accept. Not all people want their house on the open market. Also, there is no "easy way" to sell a house, especially right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure which is funnier. People claiming DC and its horrendous schools is better than Mclean and Langley HS or people defending Realtors, who are only one notch above used car salesmen.

LOL.

Realtors suck only slightly more than Langley does compared to GDS/Sidwell/Cathedral. Bad and worse kind of thing.

I would hope so given how much they cost

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The scummy realtors are in the back pocket of a spec developer who want to acquire your estate sale on the cheap. They want that land.

There’s a realtor in our neighborhood in NW DC who hovers like a hawk when one of the old long time residents die. She is very good at convincing the out of town family members to sell off market to her developer clients for 15-20% below fair market value.

Those realtors are not working for you; they are working for their repeat clients (developers). Stick to your guns and don’t let them abuse you & low ball.

This. It sounds like OP's parents property is a candidate for a tear down if it's in a desirable part of that zip code. .5 acre lots can command north of 4 mil for new construction homes in some neighborhoods, so developers or families realtors work with are seeking the best deals. It's nothing personal, and OP's parents are not "targeted" or discriminated in any way. These realtors likely cast a very wide net trying to find someone who would give them a deal for a quick sale especially when they have buyers standing by and waiting for a deal to come up. Think of it as a "wholesale" deal.

it's just opportunism and nothing personal. It's your right to just walk away and find someone who would work with you to sell at whatever price you want.

If this is true, then it would be very reasonable for op to post reviews that are factual. It would be completely reasonable for her to post about a poor attitude and that the agent tried to push them to list at a lower price than reasonable. Give others a warning op. The truth isn't slander.

If you re-read OP...it's not even that...it's the fact that a couple of realtors, when told OP was not selecting them, thought they should respond with snarky and unsolicited opinions of why OP was making a terrible mistake and how wrong OP was. I am sure other realtors where OP declined their services, thanked OP for being considered and wished OP best of luck and OP left with a positive view of those realtors.

It's just really strange why certain realtors felt the need to respond the way they did.

So what exactly was said there? Because I don't think their responses were strange at all if OP came of as an unhinged nutjob of which there is a non zero possibility considering the batshit reaction to go scorched earth against someone who didn't agree with your unproven assessment of your property value. Two separate and presumably unassociated people who deal with rejection frequently were triggered enough to clap back so it's a big assumption OP is some reasonable person who politely declined their services.

OP is 'batshit'? because they refused to be taken advantage of? I think you need some help. I went through this with vehicles when my dad stopped driving. I took his 3 year old, 9000 mile pristine, garaged Outback to the dealership we bought it at to sell it back. They tried telling me that Subarus had lost so much value recently, this scratch here will cost so much to repair, blah, blah, blah and low balled me by 7 grand. Carmax literally paid me $6900 more than the dealer offered.

I mean, you do know how sales people get paid, right?

Hi OP!