Guesses - will government open by late Oct?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am exempt and working because of an urgent project. 99% of my agency is not exempt. I’m a little burnt out and plan to take a day or two of leave if the government is open when the project is done on or before Oct 27th.

What are people’s guesses. Will I have to use leave (ie we’re open) or not?

very few people in the US are impacted.

to me it further demonstrates how bloated the bureaucracy has become. i think many others see the same.

only the folks inside beltway sucking at the taxpayer trough are having a bad time.

You're not impacted because there are still people, including myself, still showing up to work to make functions continue. If they ran shutdowns in a way where NOBODY reported to work, they would never happen.

[Anonymous]

zero power to stop impoundment...you see how that's even bigger than ACA subsidies.

Congress has not ability—beyond the Impoundment Control Act—to prevent OMB from acting illegally. This issue will be litigated and resolved in the courts. On the table is a clean CR at Biden era spending levels. Russ Vought is going to do what he wants regardless of what Congress does. This shutdown is doing nothing to rein him in. To the contrary, it is playing into his hands and empowering him, and the inability of Congress to function is justifying the assertion of executive authority.

[Anonymous]

The Biden Administration doubled the number of enrollees for ACA. Much like his SAVE college loan plan he’s put millions in financial purgatory.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

zero power to stop impoundment...you see how that's even bigger than ACA subsidies.

Congress has not ability—beyond the Impoundment Control Act—to prevent OMB from acting illegally. This issue will be litigated and resolved in the courts. On the table is a clean CR at Biden era spending levels. Russ Vought is going to do what he wants regardless of what Congress does. This shutdown is doing nothing to rein him in. To the contrary, it is playing into his hands and empowering him, and the inability of Congress to function is justifying the assertion of executive authority.

Not true - Congress has the power to impeach and remove Vought, to defund OMB, to directly control spending etc. They are choosing not to exert control over their own responsibilities, don't give them a pass on that.

[Anonymous]

Military paid.

https://www.reddit.com/r/fednews/comments/1o6dg2g/military_is_starting_to_get_paid_but_all_are/

Looking like Jan now

[Anonymous]

I doubt it. That's just my guess.

One theory I have is that Johnson is waiting for Trump to die so they can avoid the whole Epstein file vote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm an optimist and think a late October resolution is still possible, due to ATC and TSA having to call out instead of continue to work unpaid. Everybody's going to miss a full paycheck next week.

Pay checks are already missing, according to my neighbor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

But yes, the liberals are the problem.

No. The inability of people who purport to be liberal but live in an UMC bubble and have never met people who have struggled financially are the problem. This is why Dems lost in 2024 - the repeated denials that inflation was an issue when people could see it in their own grocery budgets, the inability to understand that people are struggling financially. The statement by a high paid federal worker that they are willing to sacrifice a paycheck for health care subsidies is this attitude in a microcosm.

I get what the Senate Dems are trying to do. The subsidies are expiring and people’s premiums are going to skyrocket - this is a terrible thing. Possibly Dems should have done a better job making that point in the election and, you know, actually won some races. But their position that federal workers—some of whom make $43,000 per year and work in stressful conditions—should be expected to sacrifice and face layoffs so that a family at 400% of the federal poverty level doesn’t lose subsidies is not morally or politically justifiable.

From the Kaiser family foundation: “On average, a 60-year-old couple making $85,000 (or 402% FPL) would see yearly premium payments rise by over $22,600 in 2026, after accounting for an annual premium increase of 18%.”
Do you think a family making 85k can pay an extra 22k for healthcare?

A family of four making $55k would go from paying $462 in annual premiums to paying $2400.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm an optimist and think a late October resolution is still possible, due to ATC and TSA having to call out instead of continue to work unpaid. Everybody's going to miss a full paycheck next week.

Pay checks are already missing, according to my neighbor.

Federal employees were paid on the 10th, last Friday, but it was 70% of normal. I guess some agencies had issues getting paychecks out though.

[Anonymous]

If you really wanted to end shut down I could do it in one day. Stop all Fed retiree checks. They would have a protest the size of the superbowl

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Military paid.

https://www.reddit.com/r/fednews/comments/1o6dg2g/military_is_starting_to_get_paid_but_all_are/

Looking like Jan now

This is disgusting. Complete misappropriation of funds. They should not be paid.
Meanwhile we’re over here working without pay. Why bother.

[Anonymous]

This shutdown won’t change the lives of the majority of Americans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This shutdown won’t change the lives of the majority of Americans.

It absolutely will, but the changes won't happen within the 24-hour news cycle attention span so the majority of Americans won't remember why things got bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I doubt it. That's just my guess.

One theory I have is that Johnson is waiting for Trump to die so they can avoid the whole Epstein file vote.

Why would they not vote on that if he died? And he's flying around the world, walking on his own two feet. Often it's a verbal shite sandwich, but he doesn't physically appear to be near death.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

zero power to stop impoundment...you see how that's even bigger than ACA subsidies.

Congress has not ability—beyond the Impoundment Control Act—to prevent OMB from acting illegally. This issue will be litigated and resolved in the courts. On the table is a clean CR at Biden era spending levels. Russ Vought is going to do what he wants regardless of what Congress does. This shutdown is doing nothing to rein him in. To the contrary, it is playing into his hands and empowering him, and the inability of Congress to function is justifying the assertion of executive authority.

Not true - Congress has the power to impeach and remove Vought, to defund OMB, to directly control spending etc. They are choosing not to exert control over their own responsibilities, don't give them a pass on that.

Didn't Vought's ex-wife RIF him? Congress should follow in her footsteps.