exemption from TJ calc AB requirement

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is the impact of not enrolling in Calc AB, assuming a waiver is granted? Is it a prerequisite for other courses?


You can guarentee that a TJ kid graduating without Calculus is going to struggle with college admission. I would argue that TJ kids with only Calc AB are going to struggle with admissions. The whole point of attending TJ is to take advanced math and science classes. I believe that calculus is required for some of the advanced sciences so a kid without calculus will not be able to take the more advanced sciences, like Physics C.



You can kiss T25 goodbye and those schools like UVA (T24) that want to see a "most rigorous" course load taken.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What is the impact of not enrolling in Calc AB, assuming a waiver is granted? Is it a prerequisite for other courses?


Other than the admissions hit that others are describing, the student would not be able to take AP Physics C, which then means they could not take Electrodynamics. They would also not be able to take anything ABOVE calculus in math, which sort of defeats the point of TJ to begin with. They would graduate having done about as much math as the average 10th grader.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is the impact of not enrolling in Calc AB, assuming a waiver is granted? Is it a prerequisite for other courses?


You can guarentee that a TJ kid graduating without Calculus is going to struggle with college admission. I would argue that TJ kids with only Calc AB are going to struggle with admissions. The whole point of attending TJ is to take advanced math and science classes. I believe that calculus is required for some of the advanced sciences so a kid without calculus will not be able to take the more advanced sciences, like Physics C.



You can kiss T25 goodbye and those schools like UVA (T24) that want to see a "most rigorous" course load taken.


T50 would be out of the picture. Any college with less than 60% admit rate is going to be a challenge.
Anonymous
TJ is like one of those sneaky jungle traps, first get lured in with lowest level middle school math, but the only way out is clawing through Calc AB just to graduate.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:TJ is like one of those sneaky jungle traps, first get lured in with lowest level middle school math, but the only way out is clawing through Calc AB just to graduate.


Huh? No it's not. They lay out the requirements very clearly. Everyone knows them coming in. No traps at all.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:TJ is like one of those sneaky jungle traps, first get lured in with lowest level middle school math, but the only way out is clawing through Calc AB just to graduate.


It is in the graduation requirements for TJ, you can find it on TJs website.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:TJ is like one of those sneaky jungle traps, first get lured in with lowest level middle school math, but the only way out is clawing through Calc AB just to graduate.


It is in the graduation requirements for TJ, you can find it on TJs website.


+1 and for sure this is part of the orientation discussion for admitted families deciding if they want to attend.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:TJ is like one of those sneaky jungle traps, first get lured in with lowest level middle school math, but the only way out is clawing through Calc AB just to graduate.


It is in the graduation requirements for TJ, you can find it on TJs website.


+1 and for sure this is part of the orientation discussion for admitted families deciding if they want to attend.

When during orientation did they ever talk about math rigor, or any course rigor at all? Families from the big feeder schools probably already knew how demanding TJ curriculum is and how much commitment it takes. But a lot of others have no idea. It’s not until well into freshman year that many realize just how tough TJ academics can get, and that’s when the return to base school option enters as a possible way out, but are countered by admins convincing those students to stay back, saying GPA is not a big deal, Cs and Ds are ok, etc.
Anonymous
People still act as though admissions officers comb through 20K applications individually. Yall, no they don't.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:TJ is like one of those sneaky jungle traps, first get lured in with lowest level middle school math, but the only way out is clawing through Calc AB just to graduate.


It is in the graduation requirements for TJ, you can find it on TJs website.


+1 and for sure this is part of the orientation discussion for admitted families deciding if they want to attend.

When during orientation did they ever talk about math rigor, or any course rigor at all? Families from the big feeder schools probably already knew how demanding TJ curriculum is and how much commitment it takes. But a lot of others have no idea. It’s not until well into freshman year that many realize just how tough TJ academics can get, and that’s when the return to base school option enters as a possible way out, but are countered by admins convincing those students to stay back, saying GPA is not a big deal, Cs and Ds are ok, etc.


I didn’t say they talk about how different math rigor is at TJ. I agree that is important info and kids that don’t know anyone at TJ are at a disadvantage because that is key info.

What I said is that the graduation requirements are communicated to kids ahead of time - ie that everyone needs to do Calc.
Anonymous
There are kids applying from the four feeders that would not have applied in the past who I am pretty sure are clueless as to what TJ is and what it entails. The kids I know are smart and capable and would be able to handle the work load but listening to them and their parents talk, they don't fully get how different TJ is.
Anonymous
A TJ grad who did not take AP Calc AB (or higher) will have MUCH more limited college admissions choices. Because all colleges will know TJ is a STEM magnet, colleges will reasonably expect all students to take at least AP Calc AB.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There are kids applying from the four feeders that would not have applied in the past who I am pretty sure are clueless as to what TJ is and what it entails. The kids I know are smart and capable and would be able to handle the work load but listening to them and their parents talk, they don't fully get how different TJ is.


I am not a fan of the FCPS administration, but why would anyone not think that a selective STEM magnet would have STEM courses that are more rigorous than a base HS? STEM magnets all over the country are more rigorous in their STEM classes than base schools in the same school system.
Anonymous
I am mostly annoyed at TJ students dropping classes in September and getting off campus wavers, not to do internships and such but because they don’t want to take classes beyond what is required for graduation. What a waste. Took place of someone who actually wanted to take advantage of the opportunities TJ provides
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am mostly annoyed at TJ students dropping classes in September and getting off campus wavers, not to do internships and such but because they don’t want to take classes beyond what is required for graduation. What a waste. Took place of someone who actually wanted to take advantage of the opportunities TJ provides

what is an off campus waiver?
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