Time to switch unions - is FEA a mess?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If all you are really interested in is the liability insurance, then check out Virginia Professional Educators. No politics.

https://virginiaeducators.org/

+1

I am long retired. I began teaching in 1970. Do you know what the big "reason" to join was in 1970? Liability insurance and other legal fees.

Also, through the years, I only knew one person who used it. She was an awful teacher who protested her firing. That's the only person I knew that used the support of the union. (She did not win. Nice girl, highly nervous and all the parents wanted their kids out of her class. Principal tried to help--she was "on probation" at our school. She would not accept help.

Our Building Reps --with one exception--were usually weak teachers. Every year, there would be a big push to "work to the contract"--which meant to leave as soon as your hours were up. I was an elementary teacher. Had I "worked to the contract" the kids would have suffered.

Go research what the NEA and the AFT are promoting--it is not good, solid instruction. The NEA handbook even included some pretty dark issues. I understand they have removed it from their website.

My advice: research the link given above. Ditch both NEA and the AFT. Concentrate on your students and forget the activism.

Sweetie, are you feeling alright? The NEA stands for the National Education Association and is not one of the FCPS unions we are talking about here.

Really?

from the website:
https://www.fairfaxea.org/about-fea

FEA currently represents FCPS employees, including teachers, instructional assistants, custodians, administrative assistants, cafeteria workers and bus drivers. We are affiliated with the Virginia Education Association (VEA) and the National Education Association (NEA).

It’s FEA dear. Being affiliated with another organization (NEA) does not mean FEA is the NEA. They are two separate organizations. Duh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If all you are really interested in is the liability insurance, then check out Virginia Professional Educators. No politics.

https://virginiaeducators.org/

+1

I am long retired. I began teaching in 1970. Do you know what the big "reason" to join was in 1970? Liability insurance and other legal fees.

Also, through the years, I only knew one person who used it. She was an awful teacher who protested her firing. That's the only person I knew that used the support of the union. (She did not win. Nice girl, highly nervous and all the parents wanted their kids out of her class. Principal tried to help--she was "on probation" at our school. She would not accept help.

Our Building Reps --with one exception--were usually weak teachers. Every year, there would be a big push to "work to the contract"--which meant to leave as soon as your hours were up. I was an elementary teacher. Had I "worked to the contract" the kids would have suffered.

Go research what the NEA and the AFT are promoting--it is not good, solid instruction. The NEA handbook even included some pretty dark issues. I understand they have removed it from their website.

My advice: research the link given above. Ditch both NEA and the AFT. Concentrate on your students and forget the activism.

Sweetie, are you feeling alright? The NEA stands for the National Education Association and is not one of the FCPS unions we are talking about here.

Really?

from the website:
https://www.fairfaxea.org/about-fea

FEA currently represents FCPS employees, including teachers, instructional assistants, custodians, administrative assistants, cafeteria workers and bus drivers. We are affiliated with the Virginia Education Association (VEA) and the National Education Association (NEA).

It’s FEA dear. Being affiliated with another organization (NEA) does not mean FEA is the NEA. They are two separate organizations. Duh.

It falls under the same umbrella. But, you know that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mentioned before, but no one seems to get it. FCPS is self-insured. You do not need any additional insurance even if you are a special education teacher. The policies associated with the unions will not protect you if you do something that breaks the law.

If you want to join in order to be aligned with the values of the organizations, sure go ahead, but don’t say you need to because of fear of lawsuit. That is irrational.

That is the carrot they offer. Fear works.

Also teachers aren’t the sharpest tools in the shed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If all you are really interested in is the liability insurance, then check out Virginia Professional Educators. No politics.

https://virginiaeducators.org/

+1

I am long retired. I began teaching in 1970. Do you know what the big "reason" to join was in 1970? Liability insurance and other legal fees.

Also, through the years, I only knew one person who used it. She was an awful teacher who protested her firing. That's the only person I knew that used the support of the union. (She did not win. Nice girl, highly nervous and all the parents wanted their kids out of her class. Principal tried to help--she was "on probation" at our school. She would not accept help.

Our Building Reps --with one exception--were usually weak teachers. Every year, there would be a big push to "work to the contract"--which meant to leave as soon as your hours were up. I was an elementary teacher. Had I "worked to the contract" the kids would have suffered.

Go research what the NEA and the AFT are promoting--it is not good, solid instruction. The NEA handbook even included some pretty dark issues. I understand they have removed it from their website.

My advice: research the link given above. Ditch both NEA and the AFT. Concentrate on your students and forget the activism.

Sweetie, are you feeling alright? The NEA stands for the National Education Association and is not one of the FCPS unions we are talking about here.

Really?

from the website:
https://www.fairfaxea.org/about-fea

FEA currently represents FCPS employees, including teachers, instructional assistants, custodians, administrative assistants, cafeteria workers and bus drivers. We are affiliated with the Virginia Education Association (VEA) and the National Education Association (NEA).

It’s FEA dear. Being affiliated with another organization (NEA) does not mean FEA is the NEA. They are two separate organizations. Duh.

It falls under the same umbrella. But, you know that.

I can’t argue with stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If all you are really interested in is the liability insurance, then check out Virginia Professional Educators. No politics.

https://virginiaeducators.org/

+1

I am long retired. I began teaching in 1970. Do you know what the big "reason" to join was in 1970? Liability insurance and other legal fees.

Also, through the years, I only knew one person who used it. She was an awful teacher who protested her firing. That's the only person I knew that used the support of the union. (She did not win. Nice girl, highly nervous and all the parents wanted their kids out of her class. Principal tried to help--she was "on probation" at our school. She would not accept help.

Our Building Reps --with one exception--were usually weak teachers. Every year, there would be a big push to "work to the contract"--which meant to leave as soon as your hours were up. I was an elementary teacher. Had I "worked to the contract" the kids would have suffered.

Go research what the NEA and the AFT are promoting--it is not good, solid instruction. The NEA handbook even included some pretty dark issues. I understand they have removed it from their website.

My advice: research the link given above. Ditch both NEA and the AFT. Concentrate on your students and forget the activism.

Sweetie, are you feeling alright? The NEA stands for the National Education Association and is not one of the FCPS unions we are talking about here.

Really?

from the website:
https://www.fairfaxea.org/about-fea

FEA currently represents FCPS employees, including teachers, instructional assistants, custodians, administrative assistants, cafeteria workers and bus drivers. We are affiliated with the Virginia Education Association (VEA) and the National Education Association (NEA).

It’s FEA dear. Being affiliated with another organization (NEA) does not mean FEA is the NEA. They are two separate organizations. Duh.

It falls under the same umbrella. But, you know that.

Did you also know the thread was about the FEA and not the NEA? See title.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If all you are really interested in is the liability insurance, then check out Virginia Professional Educators. No politics.

https://virginiaeducators.org/

+1

I am long retired. I began teaching in 1970. Do you know what the big "reason" to join was in 1970? Liability insurance and other legal fees.

Also, through the years, I only knew one person who used it. She was an awful teacher who protested her firing. That's the only person I knew that used the support of the union. (She did not win. Nice girl, highly nervous and all the parents wanted their kids out of her class. Principal tried to help--she was "on probation" at our school. She would not accept help.

Our Building Reps --with one exception--were usually weak teachers. Every year, there would be a big push to "work to the contract"--which meant to leave as soon as your hours were up. I was an elementary teacher. Had I "worked to the contract" the kids would have suffered.

Go research what the NEA and the AFT are promoting--it is not good, solid instruction. The NEA handbook even included some pretty dark issues. I understand they have removed it from their website.

My advice: research the link given above. Ditch both NEA and the AFT. Concentrate on your students and forget the activism.

Sweetie, are you feeling alright? The NEA stands for the National Education Association and is not one of the FCPS unions we are talking about here.

Really?

from the website:
https://www.fairfaxea.org/about-fea

FEA currently represents FCPS employees, including teachers, instructional assistants, custodians, administrative assistants, cafeteria workers and bus drivers. We are affiliated with the Virginia Education Association (VEA) and the National Education Association (NEA).

It’s FEA dear. Being affiliated with another organization (NEA) does not mean FEA is the NEA. They are two separate organizations. Duh.

It falls under the same umbrella. But, you know that.

Did you also know the thread was about the FEA and not the NEA? See title.

You cannot possibly be serious?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Will be extremely interesting to see how of this plays out. All we ever seem to hear is the loud clapping on the collective backs of the FEU for getting the 6% pay raise via the CBA. However, there’s very little ever mentioned about what they are doing for the welfare and advancement of the children we teach.

Why would a teachers union prioritize the children? I’m being serious, the goal is supporting teachers not kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Will be extremely interesting to see how of this plays out. All we ever seem to hear is the loud clapping on the collective backs of the FEU for getting the 6% pay raise via the CBA. However, there’s very little ever mentioned about what they are doing for the welfare and advancement of the children we teach.

Why would a teachers union prioritize the children? I’m being serious, the goal is supporting teachers not kids.

Teachers used to be respected because they saw it as a profession which helped children learn.

I worked where the union told us to "work to the contract." Almost all the teachers I knew ignored that direction. Not so sure that is true anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Will be extremely interesting to see how of this plays out. All we ever seem to hear is the loud clapping on the collective backs of the FEU for getting the 6% pay raise via the CBA. However, there’s very little ever mentioned about what they are doing for the welfare and advancement of the children we teach.

You can’t be this stupid. Fighting for higher wages and better working conditions for the teachers of those children IS about their welfare and advancement. The higher the wages and better the working conditions, the more qualified people are drawn to the job. The greater job satisfaction, the more engaged teachers will be with their work—teaching kids.

[Anonymous]

Why do so many people on this particular thread call others “stupid” or use condescending forms of address such as “dear” when they disagree? Look up the word “civility” - then practice it!

[Anonymous]

Yes it is a mess. This was the last straw for me, I left for FCFT today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes it is a mess. This was the last straw for me, I left for FCFT today.

What was the complaint?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes it is a mess. This was the last straw for me, I left for FCFT today.

What was the complaint?

They have had constant infighting for years. They should be focused on making things better for teachers, not constant bickering.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If all you are really interested in is the liability insurance, then check out Virginia Professional Educators. No politics.

https://virginiaeducators.org/

+1

I am long retired. I began teaching in 1970. Do you know what the big "reason" to join was in 1970? Liability insurance and other legal fees.

Also, through the years, I only knew one person who used it. She was an awful teacher who protested her firing. That's the only person I knew that used the support of the union. (She did not win. Nice girl, highly nervous and all the parents wanted their kids out of her class. Principal tried to help--she was "on probation" at our school. She would not accept help.

Our Building Reps --with one exception--were usually weak teachers. Every year, there would be a big push to "work to the contract"--which meant to leave as soon as your hours were up. I was an elementary teacher. Had I "worked to the contract" the kids would have suffered.

Go research what the NEA and the AFT are promoting--it is not good, solid instruction. The NEA handbook even included some pretty dark issues. I understand they have removed it from their website.

My advice: research the link given above. Ditch both NEA and the AFT. Concentrate on your students and forget the activism.

Sweetie, are you feeling alright? The NEA stands for the National Education Association and is not one of the FCPS unions we are talking about here.

Really?

from the website:
https://www.fairfaxea.org/about-fea

FEA currently represents FCPS employees, including teachers, instructional assistants, custodians, administrative assistants, cafeteria workers and bus drivers. We are affiliated with the Virginia Education Association (VEA) and the National Education Association (NEA).

It’s FEA dear. Being affiliated with another organization (NEA) does not mean FEA is the NEA. They are two separate organizations. Duh.

It falls under the same umbrella. But, you know that.

Did you also know the thread was about the FEA and not the NEA? See title.

You cannot possibly be serious?

Do you seriously think FEA is the same thing as the NEA?? One is national and one is local. They are two different organizations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If all you are really interested in is the liability insurance, then check out Virginia Professional Educators. No politics.

https://virginiaeducators.org/

+1

I am long retired. I began teaching in 1970. Do you know what the big "reason" to join was in 1970? Liability insurance and other legal fees.

Also, through the years, I only knew one person who used it. She was an awful teacher who protested her firing. That's the only person I knew that used the support of the union. (She did not win. Nice girl, highly nervous and all the parents wanted their kids out of her class. Principal tried to help--she was "on probation" at our school. She would not accept help.

Our Building Reps --with one exception--were usually weak teachers. Every year, there would be a big push to "work to the contract"--which meant to leave as soon as your hours were up. I was an elementary teacher. Had I "worked to the contract" the kids would have suffered.

Go research what the NEA and the AFT are promoting--it is not good, solid instruction. The NEA handbook even included some pretty dark issues. I understand they have removed it from their website.

My advice: research the link given above. Ditch both NEA and the AFT. Concentrate on your students and forget the activism.

Sweetie, are you feeling alright? The NEA stands for the National Education Association and is not one of the FCPS unions we are talking about here.

Really?

from the website:
https://www.fairfaxea.org/about-fea

FEA currently represents FCPS employees, including teachers, instructional assistants, custodians, administrative assistants, cafeteria workers and bus drivers. We are affiliated with the Virginia Education Association (VEA) and the National Education Association (NEA).

It’s FEA dear. Being affiliated with another organization (NEA) does not mean FEA is the NEA. They are two separate organizations. Duh.

It falls under the same umbrella. But, you know that.

Did you also know the thread was about the FEA and not the NEA? See title.

You cannot possibly be serious?

Do you seriously think FEA is the same thing as the NEA?? One is national and one is local. They are two different organizations.

By joining FEA, part of the dues go to VEA and NEA. I also receive emails from both (and the NEA magazine).