Feeding community cats

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Anonymous wrote:I take care of a small colony near my house. If you want to bring your cat inside, then you should trap the cat or put it in a carrier, and then take the kitty directly to your vet. The shelter will lend you a trap if you need one. If you already have cats, then your feral should be tested for FIV and FeLV before bringing him inside. A cat being FIV+ is actually okay, so long as it doesn't fight with your existing cats. I have FIV+ cats indoors. FeLV, however, is a dealbreaker. Your vet can also provide pills for deworming, flea medication, etc. It sounds like your cat will adjust to being inside. Given its age, if it just disappeared one day because it got sick, would it break your heart? Oh, and P.S., feral cats living in urban areas are typically only active at night. They sleep during the day because they are afraid of people. There aren't many birds out at night. It is my observation that the indoor-outdoor cats are the ones killing the birds.

Indoor outdoor may be worse, but none are good and we’re at a crisis point with birds.

We are also hitting a crisis point with rats.

Not like the one with birds.

The birds are getting decimated by windmills and pestcides killing their food sources, not cats.

Those don’t help, but windows, lights and cats are doing the worst damage.

So... humans. What are you doing to help the birds being killed by your windows and lights?

Please see my thread in the lawn/patio sub. We’re talking about the problem of “community” cats in this thread.

Cool, so you want to kill the cats?

Because making a stray cat indoor-only isn't going to work.

KILLING CATS ISNT ACCEPTABLE RESPONSE

That seems to be what pp is suggesting. The outdoor cat is already spayed/neutered. T&R programs are fantastic, and should be encouraged.

You can't make all the outdoor cats become indoor-only cats. That isn't going to work. PP has no solution except... "butbutbut think of the birds!"

And your plan is “let hundreds of millions of birds die because I love cat calendars”.

Find a shelter, find someone willing to take it and get it off the street. Don’t let it kill hundreds of birds.

You are delusional, and you clearly have no experience with animal shelters - which are beyond full. I have a cat and she is 100% indoor only, but I'm not an idealistic moron when it comes to feral cats. T&R are the best that we can do.

OP, by all means feed the community cat. It's fine. Thank you for having a pragmatic response to street cats.

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Anonymous wrote:I take care of a small colony near my house. If you want to bring your cat inside, then you should trap the cat or put it in a carrier, and then take the kitty directly to your vet. The shelter will lend you a trap if you need one. If you already have cats, then your feral should be tested for FIV and FeLV before bringing him inside. A cat being FIV+ is actually okay, so long as it doesn't fight with your existing cats. I have FIV+ cats indoors. FeLV, however, is a dealbreaker. Your vet can also provide pills for deworming, flea medication, etc. It sounds like your cat will adjust to being inside. Given its age, if it just disappeared one day because it got sick, would it break your heart? Oh, and P.S., feral cats living in urban areas are typically only active at night. They sleep during the day because they are afraid of people. There aren't many birds out at night. It is my observation that the indoor-outdoor cats are the ones killing the birds.

Indoor outdoor may be worse, but none are good and we’re at a crisis point with birds.

We are also hitting a crisis point with rats.

Not like the one with birds.

The birds are getting decimated by windmills and pestcides killing their food sources, not cats.

Those don’t help, but windows, lights and cats are doing the worst damage.

So... humans. What are you doing to help the birds being killed by your windows and lights?

Please see my thread in the lawn/patio sub. We’re talking about the problem of “community” cats in this thread.

Cool, so you want to kill the cats?

Because making a stray cat indoor-only isn't going to work.

KILLING CATS ISNT ACCEPTABLE RESPONSE

That seems to be what pp is suggesting. The outdoor cat is already spayed/neutered. T&R programs are fantastic, and should be encouraged.

You can't make all the outdoor cats become indoor-only cats. That isn't going to work. PP has no solution except... "butbutbut think of the birds!"

And your plan is “let hundreds of millions of birds die because I love cat calendars”.

Find a shelter, find someone willing to take it and get it off the street. Don’t let it kill hundreds of birds.

You are delusional, and you clearly have no experience with animal shelters - which are beyond full. I have a cat and she is 100% indoor only, but I'm not an idealistic moron when it comes to feral cats. T&R are the best that we can do.

OP, by all means feed the community cat. It's fine. Thank you for having a pragmatic response to street cats.

A pragmatic response would be to give a damn about your local ecosystem and use your impressive stubbornness and alleged affection for cats to organize and fund raise for more shelter and foster capacity… but it’s not as much fun as posting cat memes on Facebook and bragging about your community cat.

I think we’re done - you’re on the wrong side of science, community and common sense. Jog on, but we’ll make sure those cats get taken off the street - too much at stake to leave them killing so many other creatures.

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Anonymous wrote:I take care of a small colony near my house. If you want to bring your cat inside, then you should trap the cat or put it in a carrier, and then take the kitty directly to your vet. The shelter will lend you a trap if you need one. If you already have cats, then your feral should be tested for FIV and FeLV before bringing him inside. A cat being FIV+ is actually okay, so long as it doesn't fight with your existing cats. I have FIV+ cats indoors. FeLV, however, is a dealbreaker. Your vet can also provide pills for deworming, flea medication, etc. It sounds like your cat will adjust to being inside. Given its age, if it just disappeared one day because it got sick, would it break your heart? Oh, and P.S., feral cats living in urban areas are typically only active at night. They sleep during the day because they are afraid of people. There aren't many birds out at night. It is my observation that the indoor-outdoor cats are the ones killing the birds.

Indoor outdoor may be worse, but none are good and we’re at a crisis point with birds.

We are also hitting a crisis point with rats.

Not like the one with birds.

The birds are getting decimated by windmills and pestcides killing their food sources, not cats.

Those don’t help, but windows, lights and cats are doing the worst damage.

So... humans. What are you doing to help the birds being killed by your windows and lights?

Please see my thread in the lawn/patio sub. We’re talking about the problem of “community” cats in this thread.

Cool, so you want to kill the cats?

Because making a stray cat indoor-only isn't going to work.

KILLING CATS ISNT ACCEPTABLE RESPONSE

That seems to be what pp is suggesting. The outdoor cat is already spayed/neutered. T&R programs are fantastic, and should be encouraged.

You can't make all the outdoor cats become indoor-only cats. That isn't going to work. PP has no solution except... "butbutbut think of the birds!"

And your plan is “let hundreds of millions of birds die because I love cat calendars”.

Find a shelter, find someone willing to take it and get it off the street. Don’t let it kill hundreds of birds.

You are delusional, and you clearly have no experience with animal shelters - which are beyond full. I have a cat and she is 100% indoor only, but I'm not an idealistic moron when it comes to feral cats. T&R are the best that we can do.

OP, by all means feed the community cat. It's fine. Thank you for having a pragmatic response to street cats.

A pragmatic response would be to give a damn about your local ecosystem and use your impressive stubbornness and alleged affection for cats to organize and fund raise for more shelter and foster capacity… but it’s not as much fun as posting cat memes on Facebook and bragging about your community cat.

I think we’re done - you’re on the wrong side of science, community and common sense. Jog on, but we’ll make sure those cats get taken off the street - too much at stake to leave them killing so many other creatures.

Awesome - so why don't you try and get in touch with OP so you can take in that stray neighborhood cat, into your own home? How many stray outdoor cats have you rehabilitated to indoor-only?

Let me guess. You "can't" and the answer is "zero."

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Anonymous wrote:I take care of a small colony near my house. If you want to bring your cat inside, then you should trap the cat or put it in a carrier, and then take the kitty directly to your vet. The shelter will lend you a trap if you need one. If you already have cats, then your feral should be tested for FIV and FeLV before bringing him inside. A cat being FIV+ is actually okay, so long as it doesn't fight with your existing cats. I have FIV+ cats indoors. FeLV, however, is a dealbreaker. Your vet can also provide pills for deworming, flea medication, etc. It sounds like your cat will adjust to being inside. Given its age, if it just disappeared one day because it got sick, would it break your heart? Oh, and P.S., feral cats living in urban areas are typically only active at night. They sleep during the day because they are afraid of people. There aren't many birds out at night. It is my observation that the indoor-outdoor cats are the ones killing the birds.

Indoor outdoor may be worse, but none are good and we’re at a crisis point with birds.

We are also hitting a crisis point with rats.

Not like the one with birds.

The birds are getting decimated by windmills and pestcides killing their food sources, not cats.

Those don’t help, but windows, lights and cats are doing the worst damage.

So... humans. What are you doing to help the birds being killed by your windows and lights?

Please see my thread in the lawn/patio sub. We’re talking about the problem of “community” cats in this thread.

Cool, so you want to kill the cats?

Because making a stray cat indoor-only isn't going to work.

KILLING CATS ISNT ACCEPTABLE RESPONSE

That seems to be what pp is suggesting. The outdoor cat is already spayed/neutered. T&R programs are fantastic, and should be encouraged.

You can't make all the outdoor cats become indoor-only cats. That isn't going to work. PP has no solution except... "butbutbut think of the birds!"

And your plan is “let hundreds of millions of birds die because I love cat calendars”.

Find a shelter, find someone willing to take it and get it off the street. Don’t let it kill hundreds of birds.

You are delusional, and you clearly have no experience with animal shelters - which are beyond full. I have a cat and she is 100% indoor only, but I'm not an idealistic moron when it comes to feral cats. T&R are the best that we can do.

OP, by all means feed the community cat. It's fine. Thank you for having a pragmatic response to street cats.

A pragmatic response would be to give a damn about your local ecosystem and use your impressive stubbornness and alleged affection for cats to organize and fund raise for more shelter and foster capacity… but it’s not as much fun as posting cat memes on Facebook and bragging about your community cat.

I think we’re done - you’re on the wrong side of science, community and common sense. Jog on, but we’ll make sure those cats get taken off the street - too much at stake to leave them killing so many other creatures.

Awesome - so why don't you try and get in touch with OP so you can take in that stray neighborhood cat, into your own home? How many stray outdoor cats have you rehabilitated to indoor-only?

Let me guess. You "can't" and the answer is "zero."

I’d be happy to donate to a “get community cats off the street fund” - it’s so sad what these people are promoting with these cats.

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Anonymous wrote:I take care of a small colony near my house. If you want to bring your cat inside, then you should trap the cat or put it in a carrier, and then take the kitty directly to your vet. The shelter will lend you a trap if you need one. If you already have cats, then your feral should be tested for FIV and FeLV before bringing him inside. A cat being FIV+ is actually okay, so long as it doesn't fight with your existing cats. I have FIV+ cats indoors. FeLV, however, is a dealbreaker. Your vet can also provide pills for deworming, flea medication, etc. It sounds like your cat will adjust to being inside. Given its age, if it just disappeared one day because it got sick, would it break your heart? Oh, and P.S., feral cats living in urban areas are typically only active at night. They sleep during the day because they are afraid of people. There aren't many birds out at night. It is my observation that the indoor-outdoor cats are the ones killing the birds.

Indoor outdoor may be worse, but none are good and we’re at a crisis point with birds.

We are also hitting a crisis point with rats.

Not like the one with birds.

The birds are getting decimated by windmills and pestcides killing their food sources, not cats.

Those don’t help, but windows, lights and cats are doing the worst damage.

So... humans. What are you doing to help the birds being killed by your windows and lights?

Please see my thread in the lawn/patio sub. We’re talking about the problem of “community” cats in this thread.

Cool, so you want to kill the cats?

Because making a stray cat indoor-only isn't going to work.

KILLING CATS ISNT ACCEPTABLE RESPONSE

That seems to be what pp is suggesting. The outdoor cat is already spayed/neutered. T&R programs are fantastic, and should be encouraged.

You can't make all the outdoor cats become indoor-only cats. That isn't going to work. PP has no solution except... "butbutbut think of the birds!"

And your plan is “let hundreds of millions of birds die because I love cat calendars”.

Find a shelter, find someone willing to take it and get it off the street. Don’t let it kill hundreds of birds.

You are delusional, and you clearly have no experience with animal shelters - which are beyond full. I have a cat and she is 100% indoor only, but I'm not an idealistic moron when it comes to feral cats. T&R are the best that we can do.

OP, by all means feed the community cat. It's fine. Thank you for having a pragmatic response to street cats.

A pragmatic response would be to give a damn about your local ecosystem and use your impressive stubbornness and alleged affection for cats to organize and fund raise for more shelter and foster capacity… but it’s not as much fun as posting cat memes on Facebook and bragging about your community cat.

I think we’re done - you’re on the wrong side of science, community and common sense. Jog on, but we’ll make sure those cats get taken off the street - too much at stake to leave them killing so many other creatures.

Awesome - so why don't you try and get in touch with OP so you can take in that stray neighborhood cat, into your own home? How many stray outdoor cats have you rehabilitated to indoor-only?

Let me guess. You "can't" and the answer is "zero."

I’d be happy to donate to a “get community cats off the street fund” - it’s so sad what these people are promoting with these cats.

Donating is great and all, but as I suspected - you "can't" and you've turned exactly zero outdoor cats to indoor only cats. Coool.

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Anonymous wrote:I take care of a small colony near my house. If you want to bring your cat inside, then you should trap the cat or put it in a carrier, and then take the kitty directly to your vet. The shelter will lend you a trap if you need one. If you already have cats, then your feral should be tested for FIV and FeLV before bringing him inside. A cat being FIV+ is actually okay, so long as it doesn't fight with your existing cats. I have FIV+ cats indoors. FeLV, however, is a dealbreaker. Your vet can also provide pills for deworming, flea medication, etc. It sounds like your cat will adjust to being inside. Given its age, if it just disappeared one day because it got sick, would it break your heart? Oh, and P.S., feral cats living in urban areas are typically only active at night. They sleep during the day because they are afraid of people. There aren't many birds out at night. It is my observation that the indoor-outdoor cats are the ones killing the birds.

Indoor outdoor may be worse, but none are good and we’re at a crisis point with birds.

We are also hitting a crisis point with rats.

Not like the one with birds.

The birds are getting decimated by windmills and pestcides killing their food sources, not cats.

Those don’t help, but windows, lights and cats are doing the worst damage.

So... humans. What are you doing to help the birds being killed by your windows and lights?

Please see my thread in the lawn/patio sub. We’re talking about the problem of “community” cats in this thread.

Cool, so you want to kill the cats?

Because making a stray cat indoor-only isn't going to work.

KILLING CATS ISNT ACCEPTABLE RESPONSE

That seems to be what pp is suggesting. The outdoor cat is already spayed/neutered. T&R programs are fantastic, and should be encouraged.

You can't make all the outdoor cats become indoor-only cats. That isn't going to work. PP has no solution except... "butbutbut think of the birds!"

And your plan is “let hundreds of millions of birds die because I love cat calendars”.

Find a shelter, find someone willing to take it and get it off the street. Don’t let it kill hundreds of birds.

You are delusional, and you clearly have no experience with animal shelters - which are beyond full. I have a cat and she is 100% indoor only, but I'm not an idealistic moron when it comes to feral cats. T&R are the best that we can do.

OP, by all means feed the community cat. It's fine. Thank you for having a pragmatic response to street cats.

A pragmatic response would be to give a damn about your local ecosystem and use your impressive stubbornness and alleged affection for cats to organize and fund raise for more shelter and foster capacity… but it’s not as much fun as posting cat memes on Facebook and bragging about your community cat.

I think we’re done - you’re on the wrong side of science, community and common sense. Jog on, but we’ll make sure those cats get taken off the street - too much at stake to leave them killing so many other creatures.

Awesome - so why don't you try and get in touch with OP so you can take in that stray neighborhood cat, into your own home? How many stray outdoor cats have you rehabilitated to indoor-only?

Let me guess. You "can't" and the answer is "zero."

I’d be happy to donate to a “get community cats off the street fund” - it’s so sad what these people are promoting with these cats.

Donating is great and all, but as I suspected - you "can't" and you've turned exactly zero outdoor cats to indoor only cats. Coool.

I don’t need to house this cat - I’m happy to have this cat sent to the shelter. It’s an invasive animal, get it off our streets and away from our birds!

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Anonymous wrote:I take care of a small colony near my house. If you want to bring your cat inside, then you should trap the cat or put it in a carrier, and then take the kitty directly to your vet. The shelter will lend you a trap if you need one. If you already have cats, then your feral should be tested for FIV and FeLV before bringing him inside. A cat being FIV+ is actually okay, so long as it doesn't fight with your existing cats. I have FIV+ cats indoors. FeLV, however, is a dealbreaker. Your vet can also provide pills for deworming, flea medication, etc. It sounds like your cat will adjust to being inside. Given its age, if it just disappeared one day because it got sick, would it break your heart? Oh, and P.S., feral cats living in urban areas are typically only active at night. They sleep during the day because they are afraid of people. There aren't many birds out at night. It is my observation that the indoor-outdoor cats are the ones killing the birds.

Indoor outdoor may be worse, but none are good and we’re at a crisis point with birds.

We are also hitting a crisis point with rats.

Not like the one with birds.

The birds are getting decimated by windmills and pestcides killing their food sources, not cats.

Those don’t help, but windows, lights and cats are doing the worst damage.

So... humans. What are you doing to help the birds being killed by your windows and lights?

Please see my thread in the lawn/patio sub. We’re talking about the problem of “community” cats in this thread.

Cool, so you want to kill the cats?

Because making a stray cat indoor-only isn't going to work.

KILLING CATS ISNT ACCEPTABLE RESPONSE

That seems to be what pp is suggesting. The outdoor cat is already spayed/neutered. T&R programs are fantastic, and should be encouraged.

You can't make all the outdoor cats become indoor-only cats. That isn't going to work. PP has no solution except... "butbutbut think of the birds!"

And your plan is “let hundreds of millions of birds die because I love cat calendars”.

Find a shelter, find someone willing to take it and get it off the street. Don’t let it kill hundreds of birds.

You are delusional, and you clearly have no experience with animal shelters - which are beyond full. I have a cat and she is 100% indoor only, but I'm not an idealistic moron when it comes to feral cats. T&R are the best that we can do.

OP, by all means feed the community cat. It's fine. Thank you for having a pragmatic response to street cats.

A pragmatic response would be to give a damn about your local ecosystem and use your impressive stubbornness and alleged affection for cats to organize and fund raise for more shelter and foster capacity… but it’s not as much fun as posting cat memes on Facebook and bragging about your community cat.

I think we’re done - you’re on the wrong side of science, community and common sense. Jog on, but we’ll make sure those cats get taken off the street - too much at stake to leave them killing so many other creatures.

Is this post portraying a caricature?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Americans are stupid.

Call animal control, trap this cat, and take it to a shelter.

Let it find a home.

He's a feral cat.

He belongs outside.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Americans are stupid.

Call animal control, trap this cat, and take it to a shelter.

Let it find a home.

He has a home.

Outside, like nature intended.

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Anonymous wrote:Americans are stupid.

Call animal control, trap this cat, and take it to a shelter.

Let it find a home.

He has a home.

Outside, like nature intended.

He’s invasive. Treat him as you would any other invasive - as humanely as possible but get him out of there.

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Anonymous wrote:I take care of a small colony near my house. If you want to bring your cat inside, then you should trap the cat or put it in a carrier, and then take the kitty directly to your vet. The shelter will lend you a trap if you need one. If you already have cats, then your feral should be tested for FIV and FeLV before bringing him inside. A cat being FIV+ is actually okay, so long as it doesn't fight with your existing cats. I have FIV+ cats indoors. FeLV, however, is a dealbreaker. Your vet can also provide pills for deworming, flea medication, etc. It sounds like your cat will adjust to being inside. Given its age, if it just disappeared one day because it got sick, would it break your heart? Oh, and P.S., feral cats living in urban areas are typically only active at night. They sleep during the day because they are afraid of people. There aren't many birds out at night. It is my observation that the indoor-outdoor cats are the ones killing the birds.

Indoor outdoor may be worse, but none are good and we’re at a crisis point with birds.

We are also hitting a crisis point with rats.

Not like the one with birds.

The birds are getting decimated by windmills and pestcides killing their food sources, not cats.

Those don’t help, but windows, lights and cats are doing the worst damage.

So... humans. What are you doing to help the birds being killed by your windows and lights?

Please see my thread in the lawn/patio sub. We’re talking about the problem of “community” cats in this thread.

Cool, so you want to kill the cats?

Because making a stray cat indoor-only isn't going to work.

KILLING CATS ISNT ACCEPTABLE RESPONSE

That seems to be what pp is suggesting. The outdoor cat is already spayed/neutered. T&R programs are fantastic, and should be encouraged.

You can't make all the outdoor cats become indoor-only cats. That isn't going to work. PP has no solution except... "butbutbut think of the birds!"

And your plan is “let hundreds of millions of birds die because I love cat calendars”.

Find a shelter, find someone willing to take it and get it off the street. Don’t let it kill hundreds of birds.

Hundreds of millions of birds are not being killed by cats.

You do know that from the dawn of history until 20-30 years ago, most cats spent all or some time outside. Very few cats were 100% indoors


Amazingly, birds did not go extinct.

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Anonymous wrote:I take care of a small colony near my house. If you want to bring your cat inside, then you should trap the cat or put it in a carrier, and then take the kitty directly to your vet. The shelter will lend you a trap if you need one. If you already have cats, then your feral should be tested for FIV and FeLV before bringing him inside. A cat being FIV+ is actually okay, so long as it doesn't fight with your existing cats. I have FIV+ cats indoors. FeLV, however, is a dealbreaker. Your vet can also provide pills for deworming, flea medication, etc. It sounds like your cat will adjust to being inside. Given its age, if it just disappeared one day because it got sick, would it break your heart? Oh, and P.S., feral cats living in urban areas are typically only active at night. They sleep during the day because they are afraid of people. There aren't many birds out at night. It is my observation that the indoor-outdoor cats are the ones killing the birds.

Indoor outdoor may be worse, but none are good and we’re at a crisis point with birds.

We are also hitting a crisis point with rats.

Not like the one with birds.

The birds are getting decimated by windmills and pestcides killing their food sources, not cats.

Those don’t help, but windows, lights and cats are doing the worst damage.

So... humans. What are you doing to help the birds being killed by your windows and lights?

Please see my thread in the lawn/patio sub. We’re talking about the problem of “community” cats in this thread.

Cool, so you want to kill the cats?

Because making a stray cat indoor-only isn't going to work.

KILLING CATS ISNT ACCEPTABLE RESPONSE

That seems to be what pp is suggesting. The outdoor cat is already spayed/neutered. T&R programs are fantastic, and should be encouraged.

You can't make all the outdoor cats become indoor-only cats. That isn't going to work. PP has no solution except... "butbutbut think of the birds!"

And your plan is “let hundreds of millions of birds die because I love cat calendars”.

Find a shelter, find someone willing to take it and get it off the street. Don’t let it kill hundreds of birds.

Hundreds of millions of birds are not being killed by cats.

You do know that from the dawn of history until 20-30 years ago, most cats spent all or some time inside.

Amazingly, birds did not go extinct.

Billions of birds have been killed in the last few decades. This is a fact, it’s just a question of how okay you are with it.

Bird populations were much larger and cat populations were smaller. There have always been felines, or one kind or another, in our area, but they were not house cats, and they did not prey mercilessly on the songbird and other small bird populations.

Claiming the cats can’t be home but are being spayed, neutered and vaccinated is not an acceptable answer but it is better than imagining these poor animals are doing good. All efforts should be firstly and primarily focused on getting them off the street - feeding a “community cat” is absolute last resort behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:Americans are stupid.

Call animal control, trap this cat, and take it to a shelter.

Let it find a home.

He has a home.

Outside, like nature intended.

He’s invasive. Treat him as you would any other invasive - as humanely as possible but get him out of there.

I mean... most humans are invasive.

This is probably a bad time to tell you that I saw our local stray kill a bird today, before taking it down into his storm drain lair to eat? I'm glad he got some food today.

Birds carry a lot of diseases. The cats are doing everyone a huge benefit, imho.

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Anonymous wrote:I take care of a small colony near my house. If you want to bring your cat inside, then you should trap the cat or put it in a carrier, and then take the kitty directly to your vet. The shelter will lend you a trap if you need one. If you already have cats, then your feral should be tested for FIV and FeLV before bringing him inside. A cat being FIV+ is actually okay, so long as it doesn't fight with your existing cats. I have FIV+ cats indoors. FeLV, however, is a dealbreaker. Your vet can also provide pills for deworming, flea medication, etc. It sounds like your cat will adjust to being inside. Given its age, if it just disappeared one day because it got sick, would it break your heart? Oh, and P.S., feral cats living in urban areas are typically only active at night. They sleep during the day because they are afraid of people. There aren't many birds out at night. It is my observation that the indoor-outdoor cats are the ones killing the birds.

Indoor outdoor may be worse, but none are good and we’re at a crisis point with birds.

We are also hitting a crisis point with rats.

Not like the one with birds.

The birds are getting decimated by windmills and pestcides killing their food sources, not cats.

Those don’t help, but windows, lights and cats are doing the worst damage.

So... humans. What are you doing to help the birds being killed by your windows and lights?

Please see my thread in the lawn/patio sub. We’re talking about the problem of “community” cats in this thread.

Cool, so you want to kill the cats?

Because making a stray cat indoor-only isn't going to work.

KILLING CATS ISNT ACCEPTABLE RESPONSE

That seems to be what pp is suggesting. The outdoor cat is already spayed/neutered. T&R programs are fantastic, and should be encouraged.

You can't make all the outdoor cats become indoor-only cats. That isn't going to work. PP has no solution except... "butbutbut think of the birds!"

And your plan is “let hundreds of millions of birds die because I love cat calendars”.

Find a shelter, find someone willing to take it and get it off the street. Don’t let it kill hundreds of birds.

You are delusional, and you clearly have no experience with animal shelters - which are beyond full. I have a cat and she is 100% indoor only, but I'm not an idealistic moron when it comes to feral cats. T&R are the best that we can do.

OP, by all means feed the community cat. It's fine. Thank you for having a pragmatic response to street cats.

A pragmatic response would be to give a damn about your local ecosystem and use your impressive stubbornness and alleged affection for cats to organize and fund raise for more shelter and foster capacity… but it’s not as much fun as posting cat memes on Facebook and bragging about your community cat.

I think we’re done - you’re on the wrong side of science, community and common sense. Jog on, but we’ll make sure those cats get taken off the street - too much at stake to leave them killing so many other creatures.

Is this post portraying a caricature?

It has to be. Otherwise, extra confirmation that bird people are mental.

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One of the most harrowing things I’ve ever seen is two gorgeous Siamese cats torturing a robin one night when I was out walking my dog. They had pulled it from its nest, ripped its wings off and were now poking it. They looked up at me and hissed and spit with such malice and venom when I broke it up.

I’m sure their owners also believe they are sweet animals who would never hurt a bird, but they’re just following their instincts.

Please get them off our streets!