Do Rep Voters Honestly Believe that the BBB Will Benefit Them?

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Anonymous wrote:What higher deficit? They largely kept the same tax rates.
There would have been a higher debt no matter what budget passed, as we saw with all the CRs the last 15 years.
This time they managed to corral the conservatives whining about the deficit who refused to vote for any budget bill. Thus they didn't have to go to Democrats for votes and could pass a lower level of spending.

Those tax rates were set to expire because they could not be made permanent under reconciliation the first time around. When passed, Trump and Republicans assumed Trump would have two terms and the Dems would likely handle the fallout.

But now they have to handle it. And instead of doing that, they are making the tax cut permanent at a 3.3T cost of the deficit.

The deficit and debt will increase because these cuts were never meant to be permanent. They are not sustainable even with massive spending cuts. Republicans just proved that the level of spending cuts required to get the deficit under control are not viable politically. The only answer is tax increases, and instead of addressing the issue, they are kicking the can down the road and massively increasing the deficit and rate of increase to the debt.

No. The answer is to stop spending our money! It's not the government's money, it's not your money, etc. It's our money, and they can reduce the deficit by cutting programs that don't improve anything and arent working. All this foreign aid has bought us nothing but the hate of the nations we give it to. Covering medical bills of poor people has brought nothing but a growing "eat the rich" mentality. So no more. You want class warfare- or more accurately warfare between people who want to live and work honestly and those who don't-- you've got it now. We aren't duped. We know what we are doing.

You still don't get it, and you obviously DON'T know what you're doing, because they are going to be spending A LOT MORE of "your money."

Explain to me how, by me being able to keep an additional 66k for every million in income, I am losing money. Please. Be specific.

National debt. Interest. Are those medicaid freeloaders gonna pay for it when they start picking watermelons to replace the illegal immigrants?

That is speculative and abstract. Be specific. Where will my costs or tax burden increase?

Interest rates will be higher because of the all the new debt this will
Add. Not overnight but interest rates will be higher than expected.

If true, this is a problem. What makes you say interest rates will rise?

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Anonymous wrote:What higher deficit? They largely kept the same tax rates.
There would have been a higher debt no matter what budget passed, as we saw with all the CRs the last 15 years.
This time they managed to corral the conservatives whining about the deficit who refused to vote for any budget bill. Thus they didn't have to go to Democrats for votes and could pass a lower level of spending.

Those tax rates were set to expire because they could not be made permanent under reconciliation the first time around. When passed, Trump and Republicans assumed Trump would have two terms and the Dems would likely handle the fallout.

But now they have to handle it. And instead of doing that, they are making the tax cut permanent at a 3.3T cost of the deficit.

The deficit and debt will increase because these cuts were never meant to be permanent. They are not sustainable even with massive spending cuts. Republicans just proved that the level of spending cuts required to get the deficit under control are not viable politically. The only answer is tax increases, and instead of addressing the issue, they are kicking the can down the road and massively increasing the deficit and rate of increase to the debt.

No. The answer is to stop spending our money! It's not the government's money, it's not your money, etc. It's our money, and they can reduce the deficit by cutting programs that don't improve anything and arent working. All this foreign aid has bought us nothing but the hate of the nations we give it to. Covering medical bills of poor people has brought nothing but a growing "eat the rich" mentality. So no more. You want class warfare- or more accurately warfare between people who want to live and work honestly and those who don't-- you've got it now. We aren't duped. We know what we are doing.

You still don't get it, and you obviously DON'T know what you're doing, because they are going to be spending A LOT MORE of "your money."

Explain to me how, by me being able to keep an additional 66k for every million in income, I am losing money. Please. Be specific.

The bill adds trillions of dollars to the debt. By 2032 the national debt will be about $50 trillion because of this bill.

Taxpayers already pay a trillion interest a year on our debt. 1) your taxes will go to pay even more interest on the debt because this adds to that burden. Interest on the debt is going to increase more. 2) the bill makes the SS trust fund run out a year earlier in 2032. Do you think Congress is going to let a bunch of seniors SS check get cut when the trust fund runs out? Hell no. How do you pay for it? Increase taxes or run even more debt.

Once again, this is a prediction. It is not fact.
There are economists who believe this is not true.
Remember - many of these same people predicting gloom regarding the debt also said tariffs would lead to inflation and a recession.
They are still waiting for that to happen...... (It ain't gonna happen.)

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Anonymous wrote:What higher deficit? They largely kept the same tax rates.
There would have been a higher debt no matter what budget passed, as we saw with all the CRs the last 15 years.
This time they managed to corral the conservatives whining about the deficit who refused to vote for any budget bill. Thus they didn't have to go to Democrats for votes and could pass a lower level of spending.

Those tax rates were set to expire because they could not be made permanent under reconciliation the first time around. When passed, Trump and Republicans assumed Trump would have two terms and the Dems would likely handle the fallout.

But now they have to handle it. And instead of doing that, they are making the tax cut permanent at a 3.3T cost of the deficit.

The deficit and debt will increase because these cuts were never meant to be permanent. They are not sustainable even with massive spending cuts. Republicans just proved that the level of spending cuts required to get the deficit under control are not viable politically. The only answer is tax increases, and instead of addressing the issue, they are kicking the can down the road and massively increasing the deficit and rate of increase to the debt.

No. The answer is to stop spending our money! It's not the government's money, it's not your money, etc. It's our money, and they can reduce the deficit by cutting programs that don't improve anything and arent working. All this foreign aid has bought us nothing but the hate of the nations we give it to. Covering medical bills of poor people has brought nothing but a growing "eat the rich" mentality. So no more. You want class warfare- or more accurately warfare between people who want to live and work honestly and those who don't-- you've got it now. We aren't duped. We know what we are doing.

You still don't get it, and you obviously DON'T know what you're doing, because they are going to be spending A LOT MORE of "your money."

Explain to me how, by me being able to keep an additional 66k for every million in income, I am losing money. Please. Be specific.

The bill adds trillions of dollars to the debt. By 2032 the national debt will be about $50 trillion because of this bill.

Taxpayers already pay a trillion interest a year on our debt. 1) your taxes will go to pay even more interest on the debt because this adds to that burden. Interest on the debt is going to increase more. 2) the bill makes the SS trust fund run out a year earlier in 2032. Do you think Congress is going to let a bunch of seniors SS check get cut when the trust fund runs out? Hell no. How do you pay for it? Increase taxes or run even more debt.

SS number of recipients has had a surprising drop recently. Perhaps this is DOGE finding fraud, or perhaps something to do with COVID vaccines.

Removing more illegal immigrants, as this bill does, will lower a lot of costs and boost wages. It will also reduce spending in a lot of government programs.

Illegal immigrants are helping to prop up SS. They pay into but don’t collect from it. Federal law doesn’t allow illegal immigrants to get most federal benefits. Some states use their own state dollars to give Medicaid to them but those aren’t federal dollars Los

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Anonymous wrote:What higher deficit? They largely kept the same tax rates.
There would have been a higher debt no matter what budget passed, as we saw with all the CRs the last 15 years.
This time they managed to corral the conservatives whining about the deficit who refused to vote for any budget bill. Thus they didn't have to go to Democrats for votes and could pass a lower level of spending.

Those tax rates were set to expire because they could not be made permanent under reconciliation the first time around. When passed, Trump and Republicans assumed Trump would have two terms and the Dems would likely handle the fallout.

But now they have to handle it. And instead of doing that, they are making the tax cut permanent at a 3.3T cost of the deficit.

The deficit and debt will increase because these cuts were never meant to be permanent. They are not sustainable even with massive spending cuts. Republicans just proved that the level of spending cuts required to get the deficit under control are not viable politically. The only answer is tax increases, and instead of addressing the issue, they are kicking the can down the road and massively increasing the deficit and rate of increase to the debt.

No. The answer is to stop spending our money! It's not the government's money, it's not your money, etc. It's our money, and they can reduce the deficit by cutting programs that don't improve anything and arent working. All this foreign aid has bought us nothing but the hate of the nations we give it to. Covering medical bills of poor people has brought nothing but a growing "eat the rich" mentality. So no more. You want class warfare- or more accurately warfare between people who want to live and work honestly and those who don't-- you've got it now. We aren't duped. We know what we are doing.

You still don't get it, and you obviously DON'T know what you're doing, because they are going to be spending A LOT MORE of "your money."

Explain to me how, by me being able to keep an additional 66k for every million in income, I am losing money. Please. Be specific.

The bill adds trillions of dollars to the debt. By 2032 the national debt will be about $50 trillion because of this bill.

Taxpayers already pay a trillion interest a year on our debt. 1) your taxes will go to pay even more interest on the debt because this adds to that burden. Interest on the debt is going to increase more. 2) the bill makes the SS trust fund run out a year earlier in 2032. Do you think Congress is going to let a bunch of seniors SS check get cut when the trust fund runs out? Hell no. How do you pay for it? Increase taxes or run even more debt.

SS number of recipients has had a surprising drop recently. Perhaps this is DOGE finding fraud, or perhaps something to do with COVID vaccines.

Removing more illegal immigrants, as this bill does, will lower a lot of costs and boost wages. It will also reduce spending in a lot of government programs.

Illegal immigrants are helping to prop up SS. They pay into but don’t collect from it. Federal law doesn’t allow illegal immigrants to get most federal benefits. Some states use their own state dollars to give Medicaid to them but those aren’t federal dollars Los

People below the 50% of income earners effectively dont pay taxes. So I find the claim that the people detasseling cornfields are sending in billions in tax revenue to be very dubious.

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Anonymous wrote:What higher deficit? They largely kept the same tax rates.
There would have been a higher debt no matter what budget passed, as we saw with all the CRs the last 15 years.
This time they managed to corral the conservatives whining about the deficit who refused to vote for any budget bill. Thus they didn't have to go to Democrats for votes and could pass a lower level of spending.

Those tax rates were set to expire because they could not be made permanent under reconciliation the first time around. When passed, Trump and Republicans assumed Trump would have two terms and the Dems would likely handle the fallout.

But now they have to handle it. And instead of doing that, they are making the tax cut permanent at a 3.3T cost of the deficit.

The deficit and debt will increase because these cuts were never meant to be permanent. They are not sustainable even with massive spending cuts. Republicans just proved that the level of spending cuts required to get the deficit under control are not viable politically. The only answer is tax increases, and instead of addressing the issue, they are kicking the can down the road and massively increasing the deficit and rate of increase to the debt.

No. The answer is to stop spending our money! It's not the government's money, it's not your money, etc. It's our money, and they can reduce the deficit by cutting programs that don't improve anything and arent working. All this foreign aid has bought us nothing but the hate of the nations we give it to. Covering medical bills of poor people has brought nothing but a growing "eat the rich" mentality. So no more. You want class warfare- or more accurately warfare between people who want to live and work honestly and those who don't-- you've got it now. We aren't duped. We know what we are doing.

You still don't get it, and you obviously DON'T know what you're doing, because they are going to be spending A LOT MORE of "your money."

Explain to me how, by me being able to keep an additional 66k for every million in income, I am losing money. Please. Be specific.

The bill adds trillions of dollars to the debt. By 2032 the national debt will be about $50 trillion because of this bill.

Taxpayers already pay a trillion interest a year on our debt. 1) your taxes will go to pay even more interest on the debt because this adds to that burden. Interest on the debt is going to increase more. 2) the bill makes the SS trust fund run out a year earlier in 2032. Do you think Congress is going to let a bunch of seniors SS check get cut when the trust fund runs out? Hell no. How do you pay for it? Increase taxes or run even more debt.

Why isnt the answer to cut spending then? You talk as though a tax increase is the only solution, and it's not.

Cutting spending (strategically, not chainsaw) would be great.

This bill *increases* spending. And when taxes on the wealthy are low, why shouldn't taxes be raised in light of the debt?

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Anonymous wrote:What higher deficit? They largely kept the same tax rates.
There would have been a higher debt no matter what budget passed, as we saw with all the CRs the last 15 years.
This time they managed to corral the conservatives whining about the deficit who refused to vote for any budget bill. Thus they didn't have to go to Democrats for votes and could pass a lower level of spending.

Those tax rates were set to expire because they could not be made permanent under reconciliation the first time around. When passed, Trump and Republicans assumed Trump would have two terms and the Dems would likely handle the fallout.

But now they have to handle it. And instead of doing that, they are making the tax cut permanent at a 3.3T cost of the deficit.

The deficit and debt will increase because these cuts were never meant to be permanent. They are not sustainable even with massive spending cuts. Republicans just proved that the level of spending cuts required to get the deficit under control are not viable politically. The only answer is tax increases, and instead of addressing the issue, they are kicking the can down the road and massively increasing the deficit and rate of increase to the debt.

No. The answer is to stop spending our money! It's not the government's money, it's not your money, etc. It's our money, and they can reduce the deficit by cutting programs that don't improve anything and arent working. All this foreign aid has bought us nothing but the hate of the nations we give it to. Covering medical bills of poor people has brought nothing but a growing "eat the rich" mentality. So no more. You want class warfare- or more accurately warfare between people who want to live and work honestly and those who don't-- you've got it now. We aren't duped. We know what we are doing.

You still don't get it, and you obviously DON'T know what you're doing, because they are going to be spending A LOT MORE of "your money."

Explain to me how, by me being able to keep an additional 66k for every million in income, I am losing money. Please. Be specific.

The bill adds trillions of dollars to the debt. By 2032 the national debt will be about $50 trillion because of this bill.

Taxpayers already pay a trillion interest a year on our debt. 1) your taxes will go to pay even more interest on the debt because this adds to that burden. Interest on the debt is going to increase more. 2) the bill makes the SS trust fund run out a year earlier in 2032. Do you think Congress is going to let a bunch of seniors SS check get cut when the trust fund runs out? Hell no. How do you pay for it? Increase taxes or run even more debt.

Once again, this is a prediction. It is not fact.
There are economists who believe this is not true.
Remember - many of these same people predicting gloom regarding the debt also said tariffs would lead to inflation and a recession.
They are still waiting for that to happen...... (It ain't gonna happen.)

Nearly every respectable economist on right or left says this bill will add trillions to the deficit. AEI, CATO, Tax Foundation, Manhattan Institute, American Action forum. All conservative groups.

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Anonymous wrote:What higher deficit? They largely kept the same tax rates.
There would have been a higher debt no matter what budget passed, as we saw with all the CRs the last 15 years.
This time they managed to corral the conservatives whining about the deficit who refused to vote for any budget bill. Thus they didn't have to go to Democrats for votes and could pass a lower level of spending.

Those tax rates were set to expire because they could not be made permanent under reconciliation the first time around. When passed, Trump and Republicans assumed Trump would have two terms and the Dems would likely handle the fallout.

But now they have to handle it. And instead of doing that, they are making the tax cut permanent at a 3.3T cost of the deficit.

The deficit and debt will increase because these cuts were never meant to be permanent. They are not sustainable even with massive spending cuts. Republicans just proved that the level of spending cuts required to get the deficit under control are not viable politically. The only answer is tax increases, and instead of addressing the issue, they are kicking the can down the road and massively increasing the deficit and rate of increase to the debt.

No. The answer is to stop spending our money! It's not the government's money, it's not your money, etc. It's our money, and they can reduce the deficit by cutting programs that don't improve anything and arent working. All this foreign aid has bought us nothing but the hate of the nations we give it to. Covering medical bills of poor people has brought nothing but a growing "eat the rich" mentality. So no more. You want class warfare- or more accurately warfare between people who want to live and work honestly and those who don't-- you've got it now. We aren't duped. We know what we are doing.

You still don't get it, and you obviously DON'T know what you're doing, because they are going to be spending A LOT MORE of "your money."

Explain to me how, by me being able to keep an additional 66k for every million in income, I am losing money. Please. Be specific.

The bill adds trillions of dollars to the debt. By 2032 the national debt will be about $50 trillion because of this bill.

Taxpayers already pay a trillion interest a year on our debt. 1) your taxes will go to pay even more interest on the debt because this adds to that burden. Interest on the debt is going to increase more. 2) the bill makes the SS trust fund run out a year earlier in 2032. Do you think Congress is going to let a bunch of seniors SS check get cut when the trust fund runs out? Hell no. How do you pay for it? Increase taxes or run even more debt.

Why isnt the answer to cut spending then? You talk as though a tax increase is the only solution, and it's not.

Cutting spending (strategically, not chainsaw) would be great.

This bill *increases* spending. And when taxes on the wealthy are low, why shouldn't taxes be raised in light of the debt?

They arent low. I pay as much as a European but don't get any of the benefits Europeans get.

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Anonymous wrote:The BBB will increase taxes for about 65% of the tax payers. Yipes!

You have that backwards, hon.
If the bill had NOT passed, it would have been an increase for about 65% of taxpayers.

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Anonymous wrote:What higher deficit? They largely kept the same tax rates.
There would have been a higher debt no matter what budget passed, as we saw with all the CRs the last 15 years.
This time they managed to corral the conservatives whining about the deficit who refused to vote for any budget bill. Thus they didn't have to go to Democrats for votes and could pass a lower level of spending.

Those tax rates were set to expire because they could not be made permanent under reconciliation the first time around. When passed, Trump and Republicans assumed Trump would have two terms and the Dems would likely handle the fallout.

But now they have to handle it. And instead of doing that, they are making the tax cut permanent at a 3.3T cost of the deficit.

The deficit and debt will increase because these cuts were never meant to be permanent. They are not sustainable even with massive spending cuts. Republicans just proved that the level of spending cuts required to get the deficit under control are not viable politically. The only answer is tax increases, and instead of addressing the issue, they are kicking the can down the road and massively increasing the deficit and rate of increase to the debt.

No. The answer is to stop spending our money! It's not the government's money, it's not your money, etc. It's our money, and they can reduce the deficit by cutting programs that don't improve anything and arent working. All this foreign aid has bought us nothing but the hate of the nations we give it to. Covering medical bills of poor people has brought nothing but a growing "eat the rich" mentality. So no more. You want class warfare- or more accurately warfare between people who want to live and work honestly and those who don't-- you've got it now. We aren't duped. We know what we are doing.

You still don't get it, and you obviously DON'T know what you're doing, because they are going to be spending A LOT MORE of "your money."

Explain to me how, by me being able to keep an additional 66k for every million in income, I am losing money. Please. Be specific.

The bill adds trillions of dollars to the debt. By 2032 the national debt will be about $50 trillion because of this bill.

Taxpayers already pay a trillion interest a year on our debt. 1) your taxes will go to pay even more interest on the debt because this adds to that burden. Interest on the debt is going to increase more. 2) the bill makes the SS trust fund run out a year earlier in 2032. Do you think Congress is going to let a bunch of seniors SS check get cut when the trust fund runs out? Hell no. How do you pay for it? Increase taxes or run even more debt.

SS number of recipients has had a surprising drop recently. Perhaps this is DOGE finding fraud, or perhaps something to do with COVID vaccines.

Removing more illegal immigrants, as this bill does, will lower a lot of costs and boost wages. It will also reduce spending in a lot of government programs.

Illegal immigrants are helping to prop up SS. They pay into but don’t collect from it. Federal law doesn’t allow illegal immigrants to get most federal benefits. Some states use their own state dollars to give Medicaid to them but those aren’t federal dollars Los

People below the 50% of income earners effectively dont pay taxes. So I find the claim that the people detasseling cornfields are sending in billions in tax revenue to be very dubious.

They pay payroll taxes and so does their employer. The payroll taxes for for SS benefits. Read a damn paper once in a while. This is a well known fact.

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Anonymous wrote:What higher deficit? They largely kept the same tax rates.
There would have been a higher debt no matter what budget passed, as we saw with all the CRs the last 15 years.
This time they managed to corral the conservatives whining about the deficit who refused to vote for any budget bill. Thus they didn't have to go to Democrats for votes and could pass a lower level of spending.

Those tax rates were set to expire because they could not be made permanent under reconciliation the first time around. When passed, Trump and Republicans assumed Trump would have two terms and the Dems would likely handle the fallout.

But now they have to handle it. And instead of doing that, they are making the tax cut permanent at a 3.3T cost of the deficit.

The deficit and debt will increase because these cuts were never meant to be permanent. They are not sustainable even with massive spending cuts. Republicans just proved that the level of spending cuts required to get the deficit under control are not viable politically. The only answer is tax increases, and instead of addressing the issue, they are kicking the can down the road and massively increasing the deficit and rate of increase to the debt.

No. The answer is to stop spending our money! It's not the government's money, it's not your money, etc. It's our money, and they can reduce the deficit by cutting programs that don't improve anything and arent working. All this foreign aid has bought us nothing but the hate of the nations we give it to. Covering medical bills of poor people has brought nothing but a growing "eat the rich" mentality. So no more. You want class warfare- or more accurately warfare between people who want to live and work honestly and those who don't-- you've got it now. We aren't duped. We know what we are doing.

You still don't get it, and you obviously DON'T know what you're doing, because they are going to be spending A LOT MORE of "your money."

Explain to me how, by me being able to keep an additional 66k for every million in income, I am losing money. Please. Be specific.

The bill adds trillions of dollars to the debt. By 2032 the national debt will be about $50 trillion because of this bill.

Taxpayers already pay a trillion interest a year on our debt. 1) your taxes will go to pay even more interest on the debt because this adds to that burden. Interest on the debt is going to increase more. 2) the bill makes the SS trust fund run out a year earlier in 2032. Do you think Congress is going to let a bunch of seniors SS check get cut when the trust fund runs out? Hell no. How do you pay for it? Increase taxes or run even more debt.

Once again, this is a prediction. It is not fact.
There are economists who believe this is not true.
Remember - many of these same people predicting gloom regarding the debt also said tariffs would lead to inflation and a recession.
They are still waiting for that to happen...... (It ain't gonna happen.)

TACO blinked

That's why

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Anonymous wrote:What higher deficit? They largely kept the same tax rates.
There would have been a higher debt no matter what budget passed, as we saw with all the CRs the last 15 years.
This time they managed to corral the conservatives whining about the deficit who refused to vote for any budget bill. Thus they didn't have to go to Democrats for votes and could pass a lower level of spending.

Those tax rates were set to expire because they could not be made permanent under reconciliation the first time around. When passed, Trump and Republicans assumed Trump would have two terms and the Dems would likely handle the fallout.

But now they have to handle it. And instead of doing that, they are making the tax cut permanent at a 3.3T cost of the deficit.

The deficit and debt will increase because these cuts were never meant to be permanent. They are not sustainable even with massive spending cuts. Republicans just proved that the level of spending cuts required to get the deficit under control are not viable politically. The only answer is tax increases, and instead of addressing the issue, they are kicking the can down the road and massively increasing the deficit and rate of increase to the debt.

No. The answer is to stop spending our money! It's not the government's money, it's not your money, etc. It's our money, and they can reduce the deficit by cutting programs that don't improve anything and arent working. All this foreign aid has bought us nothing but the hate of the nations we give it to. Covering medical bills of poor people has brought nothing but a growing "eat the rich" mentality. So no more. You want class warfare- or more accurately warfare between people who want to live and work honestly and those who don't-- you've got it now. We aren't duped. We know what we are doing.

You still don't get it, and you obviously DON'T know what you're doing, because they are going to be spending A LOT MORE of "your money."

Explain to me how, by me being able to keep an additional 66k for every million in income, I am losing money. Please. Be specific.

The bill adds trillions of dollars to the debt. By 2032 the national debt will be about $50 trillion because of this bill.

Taxpayers already pay a trillion interest a year on our debt. 1) your taxes will go to pay even more interest on the debt because this adds to that burden. Interest on the debt is going to increase more. 2) the bill makes the SS trust fund run out a year earlier in 2032. Do you think Congress is going to let a bunch of seniors SS check get cut when the trust fund runs out? Hell no. How do you pay for it? Increase taxes or run even more debt.

Once again, this is a prediction. It is not fact.
There are economists who believe this is not true.
Remember - many of these same people predicting gloom regarding the debt also said tariffs would lead to inflation and a recession.
They are still waiting for that to happen...... (It ain't gonna happen.)

You are a moron who doesn't understand economics -- or time. Oh well.

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Anonymous wrote:The BBB will increase taxes for about 65% of the tax payers. Yipes!

You have that backwards, hon.
If the bill had NOT passed, it would have been an increase for about 65% of taxpayers.

FOX is bad for you

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Anonymous wrote:What higher deficit? They largely kept the same tax rates.
There would have been a higher debt no matter what budget passed, as we saw with all the CRs the last 15 years.
This time they managed to corral the conservatives whining about the deficit who refused to vote for any budget bill. Thus they didn't have to go to Democrats for votes and could pass a lower level of spending.

Those tax rates were set to expire because they could not be made permanent under reconciliation the first time around. When passed, Trump and Republicans assumed Trump would have two terms and the Dems would likely handle the fallout.

But now they have to handle it. And instead of doing that, they are making the tax cut permanent at a 3.3T cost of the deficit.

The deficit and debt will increase because these cuts were never meant to be permanent. They are not sustainable even with massive spending cuts. Republicans just proved that the level of spending cuts required to get the deficit under control are not viable politically. The only answer is tax increases, and instead of addressing the issue, they are kicking the can down the road and massively increasing the deficit and rate of increase to the debt.

No. The answer is to stop spending our money! It's not the government's money, it's not your money, etc. It's our money, and they can reduce the deficit by cutting programs that don't improve anything and arent working. All this foreign aid has bought us nothing but the hate of the nations we give it to. Covering medical bills of poor people has brought nothing but a growing "eat the rich" mentality. So no more. You want class warfare- or more accurately warfare between people who want to live and work honestly and those who don't-- you've got it now. We aren't duped. We know what we are doing.

You still don't get it, and you obviously DON'T know what you're doing, because they are going to be spending A LOT MORE of "your money."

Explain to me how, by me being able to keep an additional 66k for every million in income, I am losing money. Please. Be specific.

The bill adds trillions of dollars to the debt. By 2032 the national debt will be about $50 trillion because of this bill.

Taxpayers already pay a trillion interest a year on our debt. 1) your taxes will go to pay even more interest on the debt because this adds to that burden. Interest on the debt is going to increase more. 2) the bill makes the SS trust fund run out a year earlier in 2032. Do you think Congress is going to let a bunch of seniors SS check get cut when the trust fund runs out? Hell no. How do you pay for it? Increase taxes or run even more debt.

SS number of recipients has had a surprising drop recently. Perhaps this is DOGE finding fraud, or perhaps something to do with COVID vaccines.

Removing more illegal immigrants, as this bill does, will lower a lot of costs and boost wages. It will also reduce spending in a lot of government programs.

Illegal immigrants are helping to prop up SS. They pay into but don’t collect from it. Federal law doesn’t allow illegal immigrants to get most federal benefits. Some states use their own state dollars to give Medicaid to them but those aren’t federal dollars Los

People below the 50% of income earners effectively dont pay taxes. So I find the claim that the people detasseling cornfields are sending in billions in tax revenue to be very dubious.

They pay payroll taxes and so does their employer. The payroll taxes for for SS benefits. Read a damn paper once in a while. This is a well known fact.

There are so many offsets that it rebaselines to zero. The poor pay no taxes.

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Republicans have paid more than double the amount of advertising than Democrats have, to sell the bill as a TAX CUT. The base loves tax cuts, and won't realize until late 2026 that benefits cuts will hurt them more in the lower-income brackets.

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Anonymous wrote:What higher deficit? They largely kept the same tax rates.
There would have been a higher debt no matter what budget passed, as we saw with all the CRs the last 15 years.
This time they managed to corral the conservatives whining about the deficit who refused to vote for any budget bill. Thus they didn't have to go to Democrats for votes and could pass a lower level of spending.

Those tax rates were set to expire because they could not be made permanent under reconciliation the first time around. When passed, Trump and Republicans assumed Trump would have two terms and the Dems would likely handle the fallout.

But now they have to handle it. And instead of doing that, they are making the tax cut permanent at a 3.3T cost of the deficit.

The deficit and debt will increase because these cuts were never meant to be permanent. They are not sustainable even with massive spending cuts. Republicans just proved that the level of spending cuts required to get the deficit under control are not viable politically. The only answer is tax increases, and instead of addressing the issue, they are kicking the can down the road and massively increasing the deficit and rate of increase to the debt.

No. The answer is to stop spending our money! It's not the government's money, it's not your money, etc. It's our money, and they can reduce the deficit by cutting programs that don't improve anything and arent working. All this foreign aid has bought us nothing but the hate of the nations we give it to. Covering medical bills of poor people has brought nothing but a growing "eat the rich" mentality. So no more. You want class warfare- or more accurately warfare between people who want to live and work honestly and those who don't-- you've got it now. We aren't duped. We know what we are doing.

You still don't get it, and you obviously DON'T know what you're doing, because they are going to be spending A LOT MORE of "your money."

Explain to me how, by me being able to keep an additional 66k for every million in income, I am losing money. Please. Be specific.

National debt. Interest. Are those medicaid freeloaders gonna pay for it when they start picking watermelons to replace the illegal immigrants?

That is speculative and abstract. Be specific. Where will my costs or tax burden increase?

Interest rates will be higher because of the all the new debt this will
Add. Not overnight but interest rates will be higher than expected.

If true, this is a problem. What makes you say interest rates will rise?

Bond markets will eventually demand more interest to hold our debt. This is particularly true if they see us as less credit worthy.

Americans have benefitted for decades from being a safe haven. It’s why we’ve been able to climb to $37 trillion in national debt since the original bush tax cuts. We’re looking a lot less safe these days and that’s why Moody’s just downgraded america’s credit rating earlier this spring. They said this hill showed America was not serious about getting deficits under control.