2025 Forbes New Ivies List

[Anonymous]

Could someone post the full list of schools?

[Anonymous]

The only thing that is close to the description of Ivy League is Patriot League or NESCAC - top private schools in a common sports conference.

[Anonymous]

#H2P

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Could someone post the full list of schools?

The publics are:
Georgia Tech
Purdue
UT Austin
West Point
UIUC
UMich
UNC-CH
UPitt
Virginia
William & Mary

The privates are:
CMU
Emory
JHU
Georgetown
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Rice
Tufts
Vanderbilt
WashU St Louis

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[Anonymous]

I don’t know enough about the publics but as far as the private colleges this list makes sense to me.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone know the methodology here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know the methodology here?

To identify which public and private schools are eclipsing the Ivy League, we started with a list of all degree-granting, four-year public and private, not-for-profit colleges in the United States using the most recent data available from the National Center for Education Statistics. We removed the traditional Ivy schools—Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Penn, Princeton and Yale—as well as the four “Ivy plus” colleges, Stanford, MIT, Duke and the University of Chicago. To be considered for the New Ivies list, colleges had to meet three criteria. First, size: the private schools must enroll at least 3,500 students, and the public colleges 4,000 students. Second, selectivity: private colleges must admit fewer than 20% of their applicants, and public colleges must admit fewer than 50%. And third, high test scores. The private Forbes New Ivies admit students with a median SAT of 1530 and a median ACT of 34. The public schools admit students with a median SAT of 1410 and a median ACT of 32. The schools that met all three criteria were put in front of employers in a survey to subscribers to Forbes’ C-suite newsletters.

[Anonymous]

So I guess they are defining 'Ivy'...how?

Ivies (other than Cornell) are SMALL. They are liberal arts oriented--with emphasis on knowledge exploration and well-roundedness. Most are undergrad focused with very small class sizes. The campus is old and ivy-covered---in New England.

I get a place like W&M, etc being labeled Ivy-like-it fits the bill--but some of these others are just absolutely nuts---Hopkins (about the least like an Ivy in environment)--a military academy (huh?), huge schools (not)...

How about they just call the list 'very good schools'---but using the 'Ivy' moniker just doesn't fit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So I guess they are defining 'Ivy'...how?

Ivies (other than Cornell) are SMALL. They are liberal arts oriented--with emphasis on knowledge exploration and well-roundedness. Most are undergrad focused with very small class sizes. The campus is old and ivy-covered---in New England.

I get a place like W&M, etc being labeled Ivy-like-it fits the bill--but some of these others are just absolutely nuts---Hopkins (about the least like an Ivy in environment)--a military academy (huh?), huge schools (not)...

How about they just call the list 'very good schools'---but using the 'Ivy' moniker just doesn't fit.

I think you're overthinking it, the point they're making is that the ivies were traditionally the most sought over by employers but this is becoming less true and instead here are 20 schools whose graduates are super highly sought over

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know the methodology here?

I don't know the full methodology....but they only include schools with standardized test scores (they are fine with TO...but not test blind). That is why they indicate there are no UC schools on the list.

[Anonymous]

I agree the name "new ivy" irks. Wish it were called Top 20 schools producing sought after students or similar. But Ivy gets the clicks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree the name "new ivy" irks. Wish it were called Top 20 schools producing sought after students or similar. But Ivy gets the clicks.

I find it annoying. It’s tear down the ivies, but let me piggyback off the name.

[Anonymous]

My DH was accepted to both West Point and Annapolis. Smartest humN being i have ever met. My traditional ivy fronds cant compare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DH was accepted to both West Point and Annapolis. Smartest humN being i have ever met. My traditional ivy fronds cant compare.

Yeah, but I bet they can spell and punctuate correctly! Try waiting for a red light the next time you impelled to post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m happy to see Pitt starting to get more recognition. I don’t have a kid there but know so many really bright kids there now.

But be aware that U Pitt may be adversely affected by cuts in NIH funding as it isPitt's primary source for research funding.