Dept of Ed Gives Schools Two Weeks to Eliminate Race-Based Programs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It squelching freedom of association and assembly. Kinda authoritarian, and definitely contrary to the first amendment.

Would you have that same energy if white students wanted a white organization?

They have

Only they know where they came from so it is the German American association, Italian, etc

The German or Italian associations are not based on skin color like the Black organizations.

Try again.

These are all cultural organizations. African Americans do have a long standing culture that is somewhat separate from White American culture. Anybody can join these organizations, it’s not closed to other races. If you want a white organization go for it, you just can’t block anyone else for joining.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They are talking about ANY student activities related to race/DEI. No Asian or AA student unions. AA frats or sororities? What about women’s organizations? This is stupid.

You don’t need any of those things. Just be inclusive to everyone.

This is the irony: DEI has not been inclusive.

Just the opposite in fact. DEI is used to mask racism. DEI treats people (students in this case) differently, based on the color of their skin.

This Trump order is one of the few I completely agree with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It squelching freedom of association and assembly. Kinda authoritarian, and definitely contrary to the first amendment.

Would you have that same energy if white students wanted a white organization?

They have

Only they know where they came from so it is the German American association, Italian, etc

The German or Italian associations are not based on skin color like the Black organizations.

Try again.

These are all cultural organizations. African Americans do have a long standing culture that is somewhat separate from White American culture. Anybody can join these organizations, it’s not closed to other races. If you want a white organization go for it, you just can’t block anyone else for joining.

“You are free to start a white organization” and “anybody can join these organizations,” are both laughably ridiculous statements, PP.

But, you already knew that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They are talking about ANY student activities related to race/DEI. No Asian or AA student unions. AA frats or sororities? What about women’s organizations? This is stupid.

You don’t need any of those things. Just be inclusive to everyone.

This is the irony: DEI has not been inclusive.

Just the opposite in fact. DEI is used to mask racism. DEI treats people (students in this case) differently, based on the color of their skin.

This Trump order is one of the few I completely agree with.

If you can prove to me how DEI treats people differently based on the color of their skin, I'd agree with you 100%.

[Anonymous]

This makes me sad. My first thought was my niece who was adopted from China and grew up in the Midwest. She chose to attend college on the west coast, partially because of the large Asian population. As the only Asian in her HS, she has really enjoyed her Asian/Pacific Islanders group at college. I hate to think of her losing that group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone posted on this yet?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/17/us/politics/education-dept-race-based-programs.html

"The Education Department warned schools in a letter on Friday that they risked losing federal funding if they continued to take race into account when making scholarship or hiring decisions, or so much as nodded to race in “all other aspects of student, academic and campus life.”

I don't even know where to begin...I feel like I'm in that Harry Potter movie where the Ministry of Magic keeps issuing inane decrees

So they are only leaving education to the states until they have banned all DEI and race-based programs?

They are still going to enforce federal civil rights law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It squelching freedom of association and assembly. Kinda authoritarian, and definitely contrary to the first amendment.

Would you have that same energy if white students wanted a white organization?

They have

Only they know where they came from so it is the German American association, Italian, etc

The German or Italian associations are not based on skin color like the Black organizations.

Try again.

These are all cultural organizations. African Americans do have a long standing culture that is somewhat separate from White American culture. Anybody can join these organizations, it’s not closed to other races. If you want a white organization go for it, you just can’t block anyone else for joining.

“You are free to start a white organization” and “anybody can join these organizations,” are both laughably ridiculous statements, PP.

But, you already knew that.

That's the way it's always been, but the white part wasn't said out loud.

You aren't a serious person. I'm sure you have some kind of chip on your shoulder.
Not interested in educating you

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone posted on this yet?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/17/us/politics/education-dept-race-based-programs.html

"The Education Department warned schools in a letter on Friday that they risked losing federal funding if they continued to take race into account when making scholarship or hiring decisions, or so much as nodded to race in “all other aspects of student, academic and campus life.”

I don't even know where to begin...I feel like I'm in that Harry Potter movie where the Ministry of Magic keeps issuing inane decrees

So they are only leaving education to the states until they have banned all DEI and race-based programs?

They are still going to enforce federal civil rights law.

Who is "they?"

No one is enforcing anything that they don't like. Screw the code of laws

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They include modules on the US Slave trade and the Civil Rights movement in the speech they want eradicated.

Do you have a cite for this? I’m trying to find one.

They just make up stuff like this. They claimed teaching of slavery would be banned by a Florida anti-DEI law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This makes me sad. My first thought was my niece who was adopted from China and grew up in the Midwest. She chose to attend college on the west coast, partially because of the large Asian population. As the only Asian in her HS, she has really enjoyed her Asian/Pacific Islanders group at college. I hate to think of her losing that group.

And hence the reason these groups are helpful. When you live most experiences of your life as an "only," finding a group to share and connect with is a lifeline. Most minorities have to move through their life experiences as an only. I'm Black. I moved to a white town to go to college. The Black student union was a lifesaver. Think of not being able to find products that work for your hair. Being able to make contact with the few Black students on campus to share information was key. Feeling lonely and misunderstood is really hard when you're young and don't yet have the foundation to move through this world feeling alone. Taking this away is a setback.

Communities naturally form among people for many reasons. There is no minority-based organization that refuses membership to White people. Even HBCU's allow White students to enter - with scholarships. There were White people in our student union. This is nothing more than an attempt for a very small segment of our society to control the narrative. Minorities are used to it. They want to keep people from being able to meet amongst themselves so that they can't "conspire."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They are talking about ANY student activities related to race/DEI. No Asian or AA student unions. AA frats or sororities? What about women’s organizations? This is stupid.

You don’t need any of those things. Just be inclusive to everyone.

Yes you do. I want to have the option to be in a club for women or for black people. Americans are different. That's ok. What's the difference between that and a club for athletes?

Well, a white fellow student once earnestly explained to me that the athletic clubs and bonding experiences were about having shared interests — while the “Black tables” in the dining halls were about self-segregation, and that somehow threatened him. He felt that I was wrong to see the white tables as “white tables” because these were simply white INDIVIDUALS who, having something in common, decided to sit together. Yes, folks, he was completely incapable of seeing me and other students of color as individuals— rather than as a learning opportunities for people like him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In fairness, I think we are going to have to take a very hard look at clubs that are all one race- like the Southern sororities that “just happen to be” 100% white and 100% female. I find it hard to believe they couldn’t find a single man or single minority with merit. Ban em all.

Love the way posters like you tbrow in the word "Southern," as if there aren't all white sororities and fraternities elsewhere. How about New England states, communities, neighborhoods, and colleges that are mostly white? Where is their diversity?

I’m fine getting rid of all Greek life at publicly funded universities.

[Anonymous]

HBCUs may benefit from this by increasing applicants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is this really a threat when they are revoking federal funding anyway?

Are they revoking federal loans to students?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is beyond getting rid of affirmative action. They are talking about ANY student activities related to race/DEI. No Asian or AA student unions. AA frats or sororities? What about women’s organizations? This is stupid.

You don’t need any of those things. Just be inclusive to everyone.

This is the irony: DEI has not been inclusive.

Just the opposite in fact. DEI is used to mask racism. DEI treats people (students in this case) differently, based on the color of their skin.

This Trump order is one of the few I completely agree with.

Prove it.