Musk is coming after entitlements now

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Anonymous wrote:its says FRAUD, this forum is deranged

+100 Deranged and stupid


Ok I will play. After all the layoffs, firings, and cut funding…where is the evidence of fraud?


There is zero evidence of fraud so far. Musk has found none. Not a single penny. You're not going to see fraud in payments data. You'll need to do investigations, get into the contracts, communication reviews, site visits, etc. It's extremely time consuming and complex.


Have you seen how many doctors get prosecuted for Medicare fraud every year?


They should lose their license on first confirmed offense AND it should be considered a felony with mandatory prison time. Needs to be serious consequences to deter them from abusing the power.
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Anonymous wrote:its says FRAUD, this forum is deranged

+100 Deranged and stupid


Ok I will play. After all the layoffs, firings, and cut funding…where is the evidence of fraud?


There is zero evidence of fraud so far. Musk has found none. Not a single penny. You're not going to see fraud in payments data. You'll need to do investigations, get into the contracts, communication reviews, site visits, etc. It's extremely time consuming and complex.


Have you seen how many doctors get prosecuted for Medicare fraud every year?


Ok, then someone who actually works for the government and has the qualifications can go investigate that.

I don’t know how many ways we can explain this to you people. A REAL investigation into fraud and abuse is fine. Although we already have/had people for that. The wealthiest man in the world (with numerous conflicts of interest), his pre-schooler, and teenage friends ripping funds out from under people is not an investigation. Bringing in hackers instead of accountants is not an investigation.
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Anonymous wrote:Musk is coming after entitlements now


Good. Stop sponging off of others, grow up and make your own way in life. Show some frickin pride in yourselves

How is SS entitlement? We literally pay into it over many, many years?


SS is essentially a government-backed ponzie scheme. Your contributions are NOT for you, but to pay the prior generation. Your benefits are intended to be paid by the NEXT generation. The system breaks down if population growth stagnates (or worse, declines).

Cato does a good job of explaining it here: https://www.cato.org/blog/5-reasons-why-social-security-income-transfer-program-not-earned-benefit#:~:text=Like%20a%20Ponzi%20scheme%2C%20Social,by%20taxing%20younger%20workers%20more.




Yes, everyone knows that this is how it works. Lol. Nobody thinks their money is sitting in a shoebox somewhere with their name on it. If you think this is alarming, wait’ll you learn about banks! That money you deposit? They give it to someone else! And then when you make a withdrawal, they steal someone else’s money to give to you! Someone tell on so he can save us by confiscating all the money in all the banks!


Of course! You’re so smart. And everyone should know that the SS entitlement is not sustainable. But everyone wants to kick the can down the road “just a little farther”. But the farther we kick the can, the more abrupt and painful the scaling back will be. Both parties want the other party to do the initial hatchet job—here the Ds might get a win by letting Musk fire-up the chainsaw. Or are you afraid the younger generation will acknowledge that scaling SS back actually takes some burden off their back?


You are unbelievably naive.


You think SS is sustainable as currently operating? That’s naive.


It needs adjustments but ending it wholesale is bad for everyone.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:its says FRAUD, this forum is deranged

+100 Deranged and stupid


Ok I will play. After all the layoffs, firings, and cut funding…where is the evidence of fraud?


There is zero evidence of fraud so far. Musk has found none. Not a single penny. You're not going to see fraud in payments data. You'll need to do investigations, get into the contracts, communication reviews, site visits, etc. It's extremely time consuming and complex.


Have you seen how many doctors get prosecuted for Medicare fraud every year?


They should lose their license on first confirmed offense AND it should be considered a felony with mandatory prison time. Needs to be serious consequences to deter them from abusing the power.


Okay, then do that. Legislatively. This whole "chop things down with an axe based on random thoughts" approach is not helpful or a step towards ending waste.
Anonymous
I hope he guts Medicaid. That's the only thing that will be a 'wakeup call' for my MAGA relatives.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope he guts Medicaid. That's the only thing that will be a 'wakeup call' for my MAGA relatives.



Nah, they will just blame Biden. Or Obama. Or Benghazi.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Musk is coming after entitlements now


Good. Stop sponging off of others, grow up and make your own way in life. Show some frickin pride in yourselves



Yes, those old people in nursing homes. F** ‘em!!
Anonymous
Biden lowered Medicare fraud, which is a much bigger problem that SS fraud. Why can’t they do what he was doing? Invent some additional AI to review medical billing?
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I half wish this happens so MAGA finally understands what's going on and starts pushing back.


If he's going after the fraud, that's perfectly legit.


+1. Why are you defending fraud OP?


Nobody is defending fraud. Is Musk planning to show us a single penny of fraud he's found so far? When's that going to happen?
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I half wish this happens so MAGA finally understands what's going on and starts pushing back.


If he's going after the fraud, that's perfectly legit.


+1. Why are you defending fraud OP?


Elon’s fraud detection has mostly been “look at this shiny thing over here!!” It’s not real.
Anonymous
Entitlement is such an odd and inaccurate word. People pay for this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Biden lowered Medicare fraud, which is a much bigger problem that SS fraud. Why can’t they do what he was doing? Invent some additional AI to review medical billing?


There's a commercial running right now paid by some right-wing group complaining about Biden's Medicare policies. Of course, because it helped people.
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Anonymous wrote:I hope he guts Medicaid. That's the only thing that will be a 'wakeup call' for my MAGA relatives.



Nah, they will just blame Biden. Or Obama. Or Benghazi.


Or possibly Hunter's laptop.
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Anonymous wrote:Musk is coming after entitlements now


Good. Stop sponging off of others, grow up and make your own way in life. Show some frickin pride in yourselves


You're saying senior citizens receiving Social Security, which they paid into over the course of their lifetimes, is sponging?
That is absurd.


no he is saying fraud should stop including paying ss to people who are dead. But you knew this.
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Anonymous wrote:Musk is coming after entitlements now


Good. Stop sponging off of others, grow up and make your own way in life. Show some frickin pride in yourselves


You're saying senior citizens receiving Social Security, which they paid into over the course of their lifetimes, is sponging?
That is absurd.


no he is saying fraud should stop including paying ss to people who are dead. But you knew this.


No. You don't know what he's do. He probably doesn't even know exactly what he'll do. Stop pretending any of this is rational or reasonable.
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