Genuinely asking both parties: where do you want friends/family relationships to go from here?

Anonymous
Where do we go from here?

I don’t want to have anything to do with people who sold out women’s rights, democracy, and environment.

If you were my immediate family I would barely talk to you and avoid seeing you. If you are extended family I’m not going to talk to you, you’re not welcome to my house. Go, live in your own cesspool.
Anonymous
Six months to a year. I don't need to socialize with you right now. I can be cordial now. Don't push it.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:What I want is simple. I want to not discuss politics nonstop at family get togethers. We voted for Trump. Everyone else in the family voted for Harris. My parents and one of my siblings can only discuss their hatred for Trump now. That’s the only topic of conversation.

I didn’t grow up in a house where politics was the main conversation, ever. There are a lot of grandkids involved. My kids don’t want to go there now since all they do is yell about Trump 24/7. There are millions of other things we can talk about as a family. As the kids about their lives. Come to one of their sports events. I want them to think about life other than Trump.


Dp. That is impodsible now that your Dear Leader is going to be in our face for four years. I hope your family cuts you off.


It’s the opposite. My kids don’t want to see their grandparents and it makes me really sad. It is not because they voted for Harris. It’s because they can’t talk about anything other than politics now and it’s exhausting. We don’t love Trump. I don’t even like him. I regret ever participating in their conversations. But come on, talk to the kids about something else. None of the grandkids can even vote!
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Anonymous wrote:OP, start by having some common sense and ask this question much later. Perhaps in 6 months to a year.


People are going to start suffering from Day 1. I don’t have time to wait, I have to act.

Is this what you would say to President Biden’s face? He has already called for unity, working together, and “lowering the temperature,” even amid disappointment. His words. Are you going to tell him to buzz off and ask you to behave with dignity in six months to a year?


Dp. The other side is gleefull in their hatred and victory over us. Why would I want to reach over to them when we know they are going to cut it off?

I respect President Biden and think he saying this because he is a good and decent human being. But Trump and his people need to do something kind first and that is not going to happen..so yes two Americas. I only wish they would keep wearing their stupid hats so I csn avoid them


You were ready to project your glee and march victoriously over your rivals. We all know it. There was never going to be humility or humbleness in what you thought was a sure thing. That’s why this stings so badly for you. You didn’t get your moment of triumph that you felt entitled to.


+1
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Anonymous wrote:I have written off the other side. Truly I want nothing to do with these morons who vote against their own interest and those of others


Yup.
Its a question of morals, not political differences.


So you see two Americas. You see permanent division? Is that what you want, and what you will work for?


Np. It isn't what I want but it is our reality. Tell me why would you want to be friends with men who shout 'your body, MY choice' or friends with women who hate other women. Sorry but you can't take my rights aqay and expect me to 'make nice'


So how are you going to convince people to see things from your perspective and vote the way you want them to vote? Because if you don’t, if we don’t—if we don’t reach people and simply write them off—we will lose again and again. What don’t you get about that?

My uncle was going to vote for Trump until his daughters laid out the case that their reproductive rights and their lives were on the line. He changed his vote. Because his daughters talked with him, instead of freezing him out.


I don't think I have the power to change anyone's opinion. If his own cabinet, former respected Republicans and his generals couldn't. I get we will lose but I am finished talking with them. Perhaps his policies fail that will change their minds. Otherwise, I am taking care of my family and my friends. Our lives are forever changed. I just hope we have clean air and water.
Anonymous
Wise advice from generations past, on getting along with people, do not talk about finances, religion or politics. So, nothing important! Still, it works. But if you voted the other way, I don't really want to see you for awhile. It's a chore. It's a chore to be civil.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, start by having some common sense and ask this question much later. Perhaps in 6 months to a year.


People are going to start suffering from Day 1. I don’t have time to wait, I have to act.

Is this what you would say to President Biden’s face? He has already called for unity, working together, and “lowering the temperature,” even amid disappointment. His words. Are you going to tell him to buzz off and ask you to behave with dignity in six months to a year?


Dp. The other side is gleefull in their hatred and victory over us. Why would I want to reach over to them when we know they are going to cut it off?

I respect President Biden and think he saying this because he is a good and decent human being. But Trump and his people need to do something kind first and that is not going to happen..so yes two Americas. I only wish they would keep wearing their stupid hats so I csn avoid them


You were ready to project your glee and march victoriously over your rivals. We all know it. There was never going to be humility or humbleness in what you thought was a sure thing. That’s why this stings so badly for you. You didn’t get your moment of triumph that you felt entitled to.


+1


That is not true. When Biden won I felt relief but I never rubbed it in anyone's face.
Anonymous
It’s so sad to see so many of you falling into Trump’s trap. A trap he and his leadership team have deliberately have laid for you.

Cult leaders WANT their followers to be isolated from family, friends and neighbors. They work, over time, to cause division and irreparable rifts, so that their followers have literally nowhere else to go, and no one to turn to.

You are playing the part he wants you to play. You are becoming the people he wants you to become: people who will never associate with family, friends, neighbors and coworkers who voted for him.

He’s using cult tactics. And you fell for it. You’re playing your part. You are the puppets and the sheep he wants you to be. He has you exactly where he wants you: playing the role of stonewall family and friends who are cutting off his voters so that they only have him to turn to.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What I want is simple. I want to not discuss politics nonstop at family get togethers. We voted for Trump. Everyone else in the family voted for Harris. My parents and one of my siblings can only discuss their hatred for Trump now. That’s the only topic of conversation.

I didn’t grow up in a house where politics was the main conversation, ever. There are a lot of grandkids involved. My kids don’t want to go there now since all they do is yell about Trump 24/7. There are millions of other things we can talk about as a family. As the kids about their lives. Come to one of their sports events. I want them to think about life other than Trump.


Dp. That is impodsible now that your Dear Leader is going to be in our face for four years. I hope your family cuts you off.


It’s the opposite. My kids don’t want to see their grandparents and it makes me really sad. It is not because they voted for Harris. It’s because they can’t talk about anything other than politics now and it’s exhausting. We don’t love Trump. I don’t even like him. I regret ever participating in their conversations. But come on, talk to the kids about something else. None of the grandkids can even vote!


How sad you voted for someone you didn't even like. It hasn't even been a week and you expect people to care about your stupid soccer game when the whole world is on fire and so many people are in a world of pain over this one man.

If your kids don't have any empathy than perhaps it is best they stay away from their family. Even if they can't vote your family knows you are all for Trump, the felon and sexual predator. Congrats on your victory. Hope you don't have daughters.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:OP, start by having some common sense and ask this question much later. Perhaps in 6 months to a year.


People are going to start suffering from Day 1. I don’t have time to wait, I have to act.

Is this what you would say to President Biden’s face? He has already called for unity, working together, and “lowering the temperature,” even amid disappointment. His words. Are you going to tell him to buzz off and ask you to behave with dignity in six months to a year?


It’s always democrats asking for unity, healing and a lower temperature. Americans voted for the exact opposite. We can’t be the only ones who know how to behave and value our country.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It’s so sad to see so many of you falling into Trump’s trap. A trap he and his leadership team have deliberately have laid for you.

Cult leaders WANT their followers to be isolated from family, friends and neighbors. They work, over time, to cause division and irreparable rifts, so that their followers have literally nowhere else to go, and no one to turn to.

You are playing the part he wants you to play. You are becoming the people he wants you to become: people who will never associate with family, friends, neighbors and coworkers who voted for him.

He’s using cult tactics. And you fell for it. You’re playing your part. You are the puppets and the sheep he wants you to be. He has you exactly where he wants you: playing the role of stonewall family and friends who are cutting off his voters so that they only have him to turn to.


Well what our Trump voters doing to bridge the gap? Why does it have to be us?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, start by having some common sense and ask this question much later. Perhaps in 6 months to a year.


People are going to start suffering from Day 1. I don’t have time to wait, I have to act.

Is this what you would say to President Biden’s face? He has already called for unity, working together, and “lowering the temperature,” even amid disappointment. His words. Are you going to tell him to buzz off and ask you to behave with dignity in six months to a year?


Dp. The other side is gleefull in their hatred and victory over us. Why would I want to reach over to them when we know they are going to cut it off?

I respect President Biden and think he saying this because he is a good and decent human being. But Trump and his people need to do something kind first and that is not going to happen..so yes two Americas. I only wish they would keep wearing their stupid hats so I csn avoid them


You were ready to project your glee and march victoriously over your rivals. We all know it. There was never going to be humility or humbleness in what you thought was a sure thing. That’s why this stings so badly for you. You didn’t get your moment of triumph that you felt entitled to.


+1


That is not true. When Biden won I felt relief but I never rubbed it in anyone's face.


Same. There was no “march over our rivals.” This kind of brainwashing of Trump voters is impossible to overcome. Unless democrats are able to replicate the right wing propaganda machine. Which they won’t because they believe in facts.
Anonymous
America was divided when Trump was elected in 2020. January 6th was the nail in the coffin. But I stopped engaging when W was elected. Polite only when necessary. Soon I’ll be listing a very high value home. I’ll vet the agent. Pretty easy to do. I’ll continue to do the good work for those in need in my community whether they’re dem or rep. People need our pantries, interpreters, attorneys, after school care, senior centers and transportation.

It’s going to be intense in the coming days. Trump is truly an idiot who leaked his own little secrets. Dem officials have their own little secret brewing. Dare you to find the encrypted messages. You think the current administration will quietly acquiesce. Lotta old people in the house and court. Lotta funerals. Rot In Perpetuity. I don’t care, do you?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s so sad to see so many of you falling into Trump’s trap. A trap he and his leadership team have deliberately have laid for you.

Cult leaders WANT their followers to be isolated from family, friends and neighbors. They work, over time, to cause division and irreparable rifts, so that their followers have literally nowhere else to go, and no one to turn to.

You are playing the part he wants you to play. You are becoming the people he wants you to become: people who will never associate with family, friends, neighbors and coworkers who voted for him.

He’s using cult tactics. And you fell for it. You’re playing your part. You are the puppets and the sheep he wants you to be. He has you exactly where he wants you: playing the role of stonewall family and friends who are cutting off his voters so that they only have him to turn to.


Well what our Trump voters doing to bridge the gap? Why does it have to be us?


Ask them! Oh wait, do you know any? (Or any who are willing to tell you that they voted for him?) I’m on here asking Trump voters, too. I’m grateful to the one or two who have weighed in.

You are dancing to his tune. When he speeds up the music, you will dance yourself into a fevered frenzy. When he eases up and the music slows, you will be so deep into fight or flight, you won’t take a breath to enjoy it.

He wants you to cancel Thanksgiving with your friends and neighbors who think differently from you. He doesn’t want us together, he wants Democrats snarling and crying in their corner, and MAGAs crowing and gloating in their corner.

I’m making my own spaces with my own family, friends, and neighbors. I set the music in my life. And I’d rather take some of my cues from Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Angela Alsobrooks and her opponent Larry Hogan, who have all eloquently called for unity, not division.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I have written off the other side. Truly I want nothing to do with these morons who vote against their own interest and those of others


Yup.
It’s a question of morals, not political differences.


OK, so…then what? You want the majority of the country to be “immoral and unreachable,” and you want your party to keep losing again and again, because without any connection or healing of division or understanding, this is going to be it going forward? What do you want? Where do you want to go from here?


I would like things to deescalate and for the MAGA movement to die out but that doesn't seem likely. So now I'd like people who voted for Trump to get exactly what they voted for. And if they like it, then great for them. And if they don't, then perhaps great for everyone.

Do you really feel like this, today, this week, is the moment we're going to have our big heart to heart and find our common ground? I don't. This is the week I stopped caring what happens to a lot of people, honestly. That might change back, but now I think if they want mass deportations, go for it. That's what they voted for, right? Well, let's see how this works.


OP here. I get that people need time to grieve and feel hurt, but unfortunately, I don’t think our country has even an hour to waste. I care about mass deportations, which is why I doubled my monthly contributions to the ACLU. I think that—and engaging in conversations like this—is infinitely more productive than writing people off and…actively hoping for people to suffer and for America to fail.


I don't think you do get that people need time to grieve. I'm going to support the ACLU too because I really believe that while I try to tune out so I don't lose my mind, I want the people and orgs who still have fight in them to go twice as hard.

I don't have that kind of fight in me right now. I feel numb; it feels like everyone I talk to feels numb. I'm walking around looking at people knowing at least half of them chose the rapist. I am not quite ready to just brush past that as silly politics. I'm really angry, OP. I don't know what I want as a next step. I am not hoping for America to fail - this is where I live, I would very much like it to succeed. But I don't think that's likely right now. And I just don't have the stomach to be sitting here, not even a week into this, searching for our common ground and shared goals.

I would invite you to think about whether your smug and chiding tone is really appropriate at this moment. Perhaps if you understand well enough that people are shocked, scared, grieving, numb, and incredibly sad, you can also lay off being sanctimonious about the need to come together and heal for a week or so.


You need time to grieve? Has your life been so vanilla and soft that this election’s results suddenly make you wake up to people having daily challenges in this world? I don’t have the luxuries to wallow in sorry and suddenly right now start to support the ACLU. Where have you been? Asleep this entire time.

I voted for Harris, but the privilege and sanctimony I am getting from my friends and neighbors is insane. Have you never had any awareness before? Never before felt a call to action? Worried about injustices or people suffering in regular everyday ways? Seriously. I don’t have time to “grieve”. I have to go to work, raise my kids, keep my marriage working, keep my health in check (because I’m disabled), and just keep doing what I have been doing.

I guess better late than never.


I'm sorry but what in my post gave you the impression I have no responsibilities to stay on top of. You can lay off your sanctimony, too. Or don't! But yes I am grieving - and also have to do my job and take care of my family and all the things you mentioned as well.


It went right over your head, which is typical. I roll my eyes at people who suddenly are up in arms, where have you been the last, I don’t know, 40, 30, 20, 10 years???? Like I said, it’s better late than never, because so many people just view life through their own lens or cosplay unless it actually affects them. And then they readjust their thinking.
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