Women who say they aren't voting on the single issue of abortion rights

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Anonymous wrote:Do you not have daughters? Sisters? Nieces? What will you say to them when they need a D&C because they had a miscarriage and aren't able to get one and go into septic shock? What happens when their fallopian tube ruptures due to an ectopic pregnancy and they start bleeding internally? Does nobody think about the ramifications of their actions until it affects them individually? Southern states are trying to ban abortions in all instances - rape, incest, health of the mother. Why would you let your daughters, yourself, your nieces, your sisters, go through such pain? HOW IS THIS NOT IMPORTANT TO YOU!?! Why is your money more important than your health?

A D&C is not abortion. Managing an etopic pregnancy is not abortion.

Abortion isn't healthcare, despite the new spin.

Hello low-information non-medical professional making false statements about medical terms. This is just to inform you that just because you don’t like the actual medical category for a procedure does not mean you get to change the name of it.

Abortion means the early termination of a pregnancy before a fetus can live outside the womb - whether spontaneous or medically induced by pill or surgery. Even if that pregnancy was doomed. It is an abortion. This is why miscarriages are labeled abortion in a patient’s file. Ask me how I know.

You can abort a mission in an aircraft. Just applying the words abortion doesn't mean the same thing is bring talked about in each instance. I know how to use a dictionary so not subject to your gotcha moment.

DP but do you? Do you not understand that red states have banned these types of procedures? They don't make a distinction in many cases.

Can you please provide a list of all these “red states” and “many cases” that don’t allow you to remove an ectopic pregnancy?

I’ll wait.

[Anonymous]

I don't get it either, OP. I [participated in a reproductive rights march earlier last year and there were 75 year olds with white hair saying, "I can't believe I'm doing this again...."

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Anonymous wrote:Do you not have daughters? Sisters? Nieces? What will you say to them when they need a D&C because they had a miscarriage and aren't able to get one and go into septic shock? What happens when their fallopian tube ruptures due to an ectopic pregnancy and they start bleeding internally? Does nobody think about the ramifications of their actions until it affects them individually? Southern states are trying to ban abortions in all instances - rape, incest, health of the mother. Why would you let your daughters, yourself, your nieces, your sisters, go through such pain? HOW IS THIS NOT IMPORTANT TO YOU!?! Why is your money more important than your health?

A D&C is not abortion. Managing an etopic pregnancy is not abortion.

Abortion isn't healthcare, despite the new spin.

Hello low-information non-medical professional making false statements about medical terms. This is just to inform you that just because you don’t like the actual medical category for a procedure does not mean you get to change the name of it.

Abortion means the early termination of a pregnancy before a fetus can live outside the womb - whether spontaneous or medically induced by pill or surgery. Even if that pregnancy was doomed. It is an abortion. This is why miscarriages are labeled abortion in a patient’s file. Ask me how I know.

You can abort a mission in an aircraft. Just applying the words abortion doesn't mean the same thing is bring talked about in each instance. I know how to use a dictionary so not subject to your gotcha moment.

DP but do you? Do you not understand that red states have banned these types of procedures? They don't make a distinction in many cases.

Can you please provide a list of all these “red states” and “many cases” that don’t allow you to remove an ectopic pregnancy?

I’ll wait.

https://www.cga.ct.gov/2022/rpt/pdf/2022-R-0250.pdf - Oh but what's interesting is that doctors aren't performing the necessary procedures even in states where ectopic pregnancies are excluded:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/13/texas-abortion-ectopic-pregnancy-investigation

https://apnews.com/article/pregnant-women-emergency-room-ectopic-er-edd66276d2f6c412c988051b618fb8f9

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't get it either, OP. I [participated in a reproductive rights march earlier last year and there were 75 year olds with white hair saying, "I can't believe I'm doing this again...."

Every presidential candidate who ran on making abortion rights federal failed to do so.
Almost like they wanted to keep it as a problem to use during every election.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do you not have daughters? Sisters? Nieces? What will you say to them when they need a D&C because they had a miscarriage and aren't able to get one and go into septic shock? What happens when their fallopian tube ruptures due to an ectopic pregnancy and they start bleeding internally? Does nobody think about the ramifications of their actions until it affects them individually? Southern states are trying to ban abortions in all instances - rape, incest, health of the mother. Why would you let your daughters, yourself, your nieces, your sisters, go through such pain? HOW IS THIS NOT IMPORTANT TO YOU!?! Why is your money more important than your health?

A D&C is not abortion. Managing an etopic pregnancy is not abortion.

Abortion isn't healthcare, despite the new spin.

NP (and a woman). Exactly this ^^. Nearly 96% of abortions are elective / are not performed specifically because of rape/incest, fetal abnormality, or the life/health of the mother. That is tragic and evil. If having a child is not something you want, there plenty of preventive options. Use them.

Where the hell are you getting this number from?

The current study revealed that 47.2% of pregnancy terminations were performed due to fetal structural malformations, 16.4% to genetic abnormalities and 36.4% to maternal/obstetrical indications

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10478725/#:~:text=The%20current%20study%20revealed%20that,%25%20to%20maternal%2Fobstetrical%20indications.

The study you quoted from is specifically a study/evaluation of 568 abortions that were "performed due to fetal, maternal or obstetric indications beyond the 10th gestational week from January 2021 to June 2023". That's not a study of abortions for all reasons. I pulled my number from here: https://lozierinstitute.org/fact-sheet-reasons-for-abortion/.

[Anonymous]

I just don’t get why people want the option to terminate past viability.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do you not have daughters? Sisters? Nieces? What will you say to them when they need a D&C because they had a miscarriage and aren't able to get one and go into septic shock? What happens when their fallopian tube ruptures due to an ectopic pregnancy and they start bleeding internally? Does nobody think about the ramifications of their actions until it affects them individually? Southern states are trying to ban abortions in all instances - rape, incest, health of the mother. Why would you let your daughters, yourself, your nieces, your sisters, go through such pain? HOW IS THIS NOT IMPORTANT TO YOU!?! Why is your money more important than your health?

A D&C is not abortion. Managing an etopic pregnancy is not abortion.

Abortion isn't healthcare, despite the new spin.

NP (and a woman). Exactly this ^^. Nearly 96% of abortions are elective / are not performed specifically because of rape/incest, fetal abnormality, or the life/health of the mother. That is tragic and evil. If having a child is not something you want, there plenty of preventive options. Use them.

Where the hell are you getting this number from?

The current study revealed that 47.2% of pregnancy terminations were performed due to fetal structural malformations, 16.4% to genetic abnormalities and 36.4% to maternal/obstetrical indications

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10478725/#:~:text=The%20current%20study%20revealed%20that,%25%20to%20maternal%2Fobstetrical%20indications.

The study you quoted from is specifically a study/evaluation of 568 abortions that were "performed due to fetal, maternal or obstetric indications beyond the 10th gestational week from January 2021 to June 2023". That's not a study of abortions for all reasons. I pulled my number from here: https://lozierinstitute.org/fact-sheet-reasons-for-abortion/.

You mean you pulled it from a non-profit that "advises and leads the pro-life movement with groundbreaking scientific, statistical, and medical research."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get it either, OP. I [participated in a reproductive rights march earlier last year and there were 75 year olds with white hair saying, "I can't believe I'm doing this again...."

Every presidential candidate who ran on making abortion rights federal failed to do so.
Almost like they wanted to keep it as a problem to use during every election.

Trump is the ultimate example of a politician who used the abortion issue to get the anti-abortion votes. He personally does not care if you get an abortion or not. He cares more about his golf game than abortion .

But he used it to get elected, foolishly actually overturned roe and bragged about it, and now he's going to pay the price.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just don’t get why people want the option to terminate past viability.

Because health complications arise after the "viability" point of 20-22 weeks. After that point, the fetus may need to be terminated to save the life of the mother, protect the mother's future fertility, or to end progression of a fetus that will not live more than an hour or two after being born.

Even with "mothers health" exception, the laws in individual states are purposely vague and the doctors are scared of lawyers and prosecutors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just don’t get why people want the option to terminate past viability.

It is extremely rare and always for a heartbreaking catastrophic reason. This has been explained over and over and over again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't get it either, OP. I [participated in a reproductive rights march earlier last year and there were 75 year olds with white hair saying, "I can't believe I'm doing this again...."

And we will all do it again and again and again and again until the laws reflect our inalienable right to make our own reproductive decisions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do you not have daughters? Sisters? Nieces? What will you say to them when they need a D&C because they had a miscarriage and aren't able to get one and go into septic shock? What happens when their fallopian tube ruptures due to an ectopic pregnancy and they start bleeding internally? Does nobody think about the ramifications of their actions until it affects them individually? Southern states are trying to ban abortions in all instances - rape, incest, health of the mother. Why would you let your daughters, yourself, your nieces, your sisters, go through such pain? HOW IS THIS NOT IMPORTANT TO YOU!?! Why is your money more important than your health?

A D&C is not abortion. Managing an etopic pregnancy is not abortion.

Abortion isn't healthcare, despite the new spin.

Tell me you know nothing about women’s health without…wait, you did tell me!

It’s not a new spin. Heretofore, care for all facets of women’s reproductive health wasn’t up for policing by lay folks. Simply because you are now only hearing about it doesn’t mean it’s “new.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Live in a southern state. Women can get female healthcare here.

We are not 3rd world in the south. And have renown medical facilities.

https://healthlaw.org/maternity-wing-closures-in-the-u-s-south-impetus-and-impact/

Rural areas in the South are the most dangerous places to be pregnant.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do you not have daughters? Sisters? Nieces? What will you say to them when they need a D&C because they had a miscarriage and aren't able to get one and go into septic shock? What happens when their fallopian tube ruptures due to an ectopic pregnancy and they start bleeding internally? Does nobody think about the ramifications of their actions until it affects them individually? Southern states are trying to ban abortions in all instances - rape, incest, health of the mother. Why would you let your daughters, yourself, your nieces, your sisters, go through such pain? HOW IS THIS NOT IMPORTANT TO YOU!?! Why is your money more important than your health?

A D&C is not abortion. Managing an etopic pregnancy is not abortion.

Abortion isn't healthcare, despite the new spin.

NP (and a woman). Exactly this ^^. Nearly 96% of abortions are elective / are not performed specifically because of rape/incest, fetal abnormality, or the life/health of the mother. That is tragic and evil. If having a child is not something you want, there plenty of preventive options. Use them.

Where the hell are you getting this number from?

The current study revealed that 47.2% of pregnancy terminations were performed due to fetal structural malformations, 16.4% to genetic abnormalities and 36.4% to maternal/obstetrical indications

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10478725/#:~:text=The%20current%20study%20revealed%20that,%25%20to%20maternal%2Fobstetrical%20indications.

You should read the study you posted: All cases between 10 and 33 weeks of gestation between January 2021 and June 2023 were retrospectively analyzed. The patients were divided into two groups as group 1 with 11+0 to 21+6 gestational weeks and group 2 for those at 22+0 and 33+0 gestational weeks.

It did not include pregnancy in the 0-9 weeks of gestation when the vast majority of abortions are done.

Stop lying.

This data does, however, disprove the notion that women are seeking elective abortions right up until the 9th month. Late term abortions are not elective.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do you not have daughters? Sisters? Nieces? What will you say to them when they need a D&C because they had a miscarriage and aren't able to get one and go into septic shock? What happens when their fallopian tube ruptures due to an ectopic pregnancy and they start bleeding internally? Does nobody think about the ramifications of their actions until it affects them individually? Southern states are trying to ban abortions in all instances - rape, incest, health of the mother. Why would you let your daughters, yourself, your nieces, your sisters, go through such pain? HOW IS THIS NOT IMPORTANT TO YOU!?! Why is your money more important than your health?

A D&C is not abortion. Managing an etopic pregnancy is not abortion.

Abortion isn't healthcare, despite the new spin.

Tell me you know nothing about women’s health without…wait, you did tell me!

It’s not a new spin. Heretofore, care for all facets of women’s reproductive health wasn’t up for policing by lay folks. Simply because you are now only hearing about it doesn’t mean it’s “new.”

Calling people who disagree with you stupid and ignorant will never accomplish what you want it to accomplish. We will never say, yes you are right, I am so dumb thank you for setting me straight. I stand by the post you are responding to by the way.