The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't YIMBY people understand that people move to the suburbs because they want to live in the suburbs? Not everyone wants a small apartment and walkability. Some of us want yards and space

This is why you are selfish and what you don’t understand. It’s not only that I personally prefer high-density urban planning and walkability. It’s that if more people lived this way, then we wouldn’t have the suburban garbage like stroads and strip malls and sprawl. If you house 20 families in an acre as opposed to one or two families, then that acreage can turn back into forest land, or green space, and be home to more biodiversity, OR it can be used for local farming, OR solar fields to power the neighborhoods. Land is finite and it better used that way than for empty lawns and gas-guzzling SUVs.

Your second sentence is what people are trying to explain. You prefer high density, which is fine. Many of us don’t. You clearly hate the suburbs. Again you’re entitled to your opinion but many of us prefer them and seek them out. Live downtown in your dense area but not everyone wants that.

Why do I need to live in a way I don’t want to so you can turn my yard into forest or farming just because you like density.

You miss the point. It’s not just that I like density. Me liking density is secondary to me liking biodiversity. Sprawl harms biodiversity and the environment. Your chemical sprayed lawn that Kayden and Jayden play soccer in for ten minutes once a month in between video games could be home to endangered wildlife.

Hate to disappoint you but our suburban lawn that is chemical free, is also in a heavily wooded neighborhood with a lake and tons of wildlife. The wildlife many posts on here ask how to kill or remove. Our kids and their friends spend lots of time out in the yard since they have the space to run around that doesn’t require going to some public park.

Again, people like different things. But somehow people have forgotten that people can respect differing views.

Having to go to some public park would certainly be terrible. But you know what's even worse than public parks? Public schools! Public transit is also terrible, of course. Public safety? Terrible. Public health? Terrible. Public services? Terrible. Public roads are the absolute worst, of course.

(I am not being sincere.)

Obviously you’re not being sincere but you do seem to have missed the point. PP was simply confirming that some of us like when our kids can play in our own yards and don’t have to go elsewhere to find green space.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't YIMBYs be happy living in their crowded apartment buildings in NoMa or Navy Yard, or whatever the new hotspot is, and walking to whatever fancy restaurants and gyms make them happy, and leave the rest of us alone? It always feels like, deep down, they are miserable and want to spread that misery to everyone.

Your taxes are the only way they’ll fund all of the services they want but can’t afford.

YIMBYs are the result of society giving an entire generation trophies for losing.

This. Young and stupid. At least when we were young and stupid we didn't have a voice. They have one now are trying to ruin the country. Grow up or move to another country more to your liking, OP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't YIMBYs be happy living in their crowded apartment buildings in NoMa or Navy Yard, or whatever the new hotspot is, and walking to whatever fancy restaurants and gyms make them happy, and leave the rest of us alone? It always feels like, deep down, they are miserable and want to spread that misery to everyone.

Your taxes are the only way they’ll fund all of the services they want but can’t afford.

YIMBYs are the result of society giving an entire generation trophies for losing.

This. Young and stupid. At least when we were young and stupid we didn't have a voice. They have one now are trying to ruin the country. Grow up or move to another country more to your liking, OP.

DP. Since this is happening, maybe you're the one who will need to accept it or move to another country to more to your liking?

[Anonymous]

This sounds more like YIYBY.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't YIMBY people understand that people move to the suburbs because they want to live in the suburbs? Not everyone wants a small apartment and walkability. Some of us want yards and space

This is why you are selfish and what you don’t understand. It’s not only that I personally prefer high-density urban planning and walkability. It’s that if more people lived this way, then we wouldn’t have the suburban garbage like stroads and strip malls and sprawl. If you house 20 families in an acre as opposed to one or two families, then that acreage can turn back into forest land, or green space, and be home to more biodiversity, OR it can be used for local farming, OR solar fields to power the neighborhoods. Land is finite and it better used that way than for empty lawns and gas-guzzling SUVs.

Your second sentence is what people are trying to explain. You prefer high density, which is fine. Many of us don’t. You clearly hate the suburbs. Again you’re entitled to your opinion but many of us prefer them and seek them out. Live downtown in your dense area but not everyone wants that.

Why do I need to live in a way I don’t want to so you can turn my yard into forest or farming just because you like density.

You miss the point. It’s not just that I like density. Me liking density is secondary to me liking biodiversity. Sprawl harms biodiversity and the environment. Your chemical sprayed lawn that Kayden and Jayden play soccer in for ten minutes once a month in between video games could be home to endangered wildlife.

Hate to disappoint you but our suburban lawn that is chemical free, is also in a heavily wooded neighborhood with a lake and tons of wildlife. The wildlife many posts on here ask how to kill or remove. Our kids and their friends spend lots of time out in the yard since they have the space to run around that doesn’t require going to some public park.

Again, people like different things. But somehow people have forgotten that people can respect differing views.

Having to go to some public park would certainly be terrible. But you know what's even worse than public parks? Public schools! Public transit is also terrible, of course. Public safety? Terrible. Public health? Terrible. Public services? Terrible. Public roads are the absolute worst, of course.

(I am not being sincere.)

Obviously you’re not being sincere but you do seem to have missed the point. PP was simply confirming that some of us like when our kids can play in our own yards and don’t have to go elsewhere to find green space.

Of course. What child wouldn't prefer to play in a small backyard, with few or no other children, than at a large playground with plenty of other children?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why can't YIMBY people understand that people move to the suburbs because they want to live in the suburbs? Not everyone wants a small apartment and walkability. Some of us want yards and space

Yeah but urban dwellers pay for your subsidized yards and space

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't YIMBY people understand that people move to the suburbs because they want to live in the suburbs? Not everyone wants a small apartment and walkability. Some of us want yards and space

Yeah but urban dwellers pay for your subsidized yards and space

They actually cost the suburbs money with their low-income housing and food stamps. Makers live in the suburbs, takers live in the cities.

[Anonymous]

I will take my kid to a public park to play if you stop letting your dogs run wild and stop smoking pot that we have to smell. I will live in your dense housing if you do both of the above and stop playing music loudly and yelling at each other.

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't YIMBY people understand that people move to the suburbs because they want to live in the suburbs? Not everyone wants a small apartment and walkability. Some of us want yards and space

This is why you are selfish and what you don’t understand. It’s not only that I personally prefer high-density urban planning and walkability. It’s that if more people lived this way, then we wouldn’t have the suburban garbage like stroads and strip malls and sprawl. If you house 20 families in an acre as opposed to one or two families, then that acreage can turn back into forest land, or green space, and be home to more biodiversity, OR it can be used for local farming, OR solar fields to power the neighborhoods. Land is finite and it better used that way than for empty lawns and gas-guzzling SUVs.

Your second sentence is what people are trying to explain. You prefer high density, which is fine. Many of us don’t. You clearly hate the suburbs. Again you’re entitled to your opinion but many of us prefer them and seek them out. Live downtown in your dense area but not everyone wants that.

Why do I need to live in a way I don’t want to so you can turn my yard into forest or farming just because you like density.

You miss the point. It’s not just that I like density. Me liking density is secondary to me liking biodiversity. Sprawl harms biodiversity and the environment. Your chemical sprayed lawn that Kayden and Jayden play soccer in for ten minutes once a month in between video games could be home to endangered wildlife.

Hate to disappoint you but our suburban lawn that is chemical free, is also in a heavily wooded neighborhood with a lake and tons of wildlife. The wildlife many posts on here ask how to kill or remove. Our kids and their friends spend lots of time out in the yard since they have the space to run around that doesn’t require going to some public park.

Again, people like different things. But somehow people have forgotten that people can respect differing views.

Having to go to some public park would certainly be terrible. But you know what's even worse than public parks? Public schools! Public transit is also terrible, of course. Public safety? Terrible. Public health? Terrible. Public services? Terrible. Public roads are the absolute worst, of course.

(I am not being sincere.)

Obviously you’re not being sincere but you do seem to have missed the point. PP was simply confirming that some of us like when our kids can play in our own yards and don’t have to go elsewhere to find green space.

Of course. What child wouldn't prefer to play in a small backyard, with few or no other children, than at a large playground with plenty of other children?

Our neighborhood has large yards and tons of kids. After the age of about 7 what kids prefer a playground to playing with their own friends in their neighborhood?

[Anonymous]

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Most of you will hate this but I don’t care. We all need to suck it up and move into the 21st century, 25 years too late.

No more tweaking around the edges with low-level zoning reform or a few more metro stops or buses here and there. We need a broad scale systematic urban planning overhaul that completely eliminates single family zoning anywhere inside the Beltway.

Single family zoning is simply unsustainable. We can’t grow our economy if we don’t have new residents and we can’t have new residents if we don’t have homes. And if we don’t have more homes near better, reliable transit, then everyone will be more miserable stuck in traffic and less productive at work and less economically competitive. We need to completely eliminate suburban sprawl. The 1950s planned communities need to stay in the past. In a perfect world we’d move everyone closer in to promote re-wilding of our exurbs.

Nobody should be living in a single family suburban home and drive an SUV. It should be either urban, dense multi family dwelling walkable 15-minute neighborhoods, or rural homesteads, preferably using their land for organic family farming and solar fields and green spaces.

If it weren’t for American “but muh freedumb!” selfish ideology, I guarantee we would all have a much higher quality of life with less traffic, less stress, stronger communities, less obesity, and a better economy.

Bring on the YIMBY revolution.

I don’t care either. Our neighborhood in DC is covenanted (no racial clauses). Can’t wait, my property value will just keep climbing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't YIMBY people understand that people move to the suburbs because they want to live in the suburbs? Not everyone wants a small apartment and walkability. Some of us want yards and space

This is why you are selfish and what you don’t understand. It’s not only that I personally prefer high-density urban planning and walkability. It’s that if more people lived this way, then we wouldn’t have the suburban garbage like stroads and strip malls and sprawl. If you house 20 families in an acre as opposed to one or two families, then that acreage can turn back into forest land, or green space, and be home to more biodiversity, OR it can be used for local farming, OR solar fields to power the neighborhoods. Land is finite and it better used that way than for empty lawns and gas-guzzling SUVs.

Your second sentence is what people are trying to explain. You prefer high density, which is fine. Many of us don’t. You clearly hate the suburbs. Again you’re entitled to your opinion but many of us prefer them and seek them out. Live downtown in your dense area but not everyone wants that.

Why do I need to live in a way I don’t want to so you can turn my yard into forest or farming just because you like density.

You miss the point. It’s not just that I like density. Me liking density is secondary to me liking biodiversity. Sprawl harms biodiversity and the environment. Your chemical sprayed lawn that Kayden and Jayden play soccer in for ten minutes once a month in between video games could be home to endangered wildlife.

Hate to disappoint you but our suburban lawn that is chemical free, is also in a heavily wooded neighborhood with a lake and tons of wildlife. The wildlife many posts on here ask how to kill or remove. Our kids and their friends spend lots of time out in the yard since they have the space to run around that doesn’t require going to some public park.

Again, people like different things. But somehow people have forgotten that people can respect differing views.

Having to go to some public park would certainly be terrible. But you know what's even worse than public parks? Public schools! Public transit is also terrible, of course. Public safety? Terrible. Public health? Terrible. Public services? Terrible. Public roads are the absolute worst, of course.

(I am not being sincere.)

Obviously you’re not being sincere but you do seem to have missed the point. PP was simply confirming that some of us like when our kids can play in our own yards and don’t have to go elsewhere to find green space.

Of course. What child wouldn't prefer to play in a small backyard, with few or no other children, than at a large playground with plenty of other children?

Our neighborhood has large yards and tons of kids. After the age of about 7 what kids prefer a playground to playing with their own friends in their neighborhood?

After the age of about 7, what kids want to be stuck under parental supervision in their own yard?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't YIMBYs be happy living in their crowded apartment buildings in NoMa or Navy Yard, or whatever the new hotspot is, and walking to whatever fancy restaurants and gyms make them happy, and leave the rest of us alone? It always feels like, deep down, they are miserable and want to spread that misery to everyone.

Your taxes are the only way they’ll fund all of the services they want but can’t afford.

YIMBYs are the result of society giving an entire generation trophies for losing.

This. Young and stupid. At least when we were young and stupid we didn't have a voice. They have one now are trying to ruin the country. Grow up or move to another country more to your liking, OP.

DP. Since this is happening, maybe you're the one who will need to accept it or move to another country to more to your liking?

Grow up. I live in NYC. I was raised from birth to be liberal. I was also raised to believe that there are all kinds of people and no one group can dictate how we all live and act. We try to act collectively as a whole, which means no one group gets their way. Compromise. This is democracy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't YIMBY people understand that people move to the suburbs because they want to live in the suburbs? Not everyone wants a small apartment and walkability. Some of us want yards and space

Yeah but urban dwellers pay for your subsidized yards and space

I don't see too many urban apartment dwellers paying real estate taxes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't YIMBYs be happy living in their crowded apartment buildings in NoMa or Navy Yard, or whatever the new hotspot is, and walking to whatever fancy restaurants and gyms make them happy, and leave the rest of us alone? It always feels like, deep down, they are miserable and want to spread that misery to everyone.

Your taxes are the only way they’ll fund all of the services they want but can’t afford.

YIMBYs are the result of society giving an entire generation trophies for losing.

This. Young and stupid. At least when we were young and stupid we didn't have a voice. They have one now are trying to ruin the country. Grow up or move to another country more to your liking, OP.

DP. Since this is happening, maybe you're the one who will need to accept it or move to another country to more to your liking?

It is people like you who will cause an insane person like Tr*mp to get elected. The majority of the US doesn't believe in your ultra-progressive causes. You even turn off those of use who want progress. You push too hard too fast and the cause breaks and you lose ground.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't YIMBYs be happy living in their crowded apartment buildings in NoMa or Navy Yard, or whatever the new hotspot is, and walking to whatever fancy restaurants and gyms make them happy, and leave the rest of us alone? It always feels like, deep down, they are miserable and want to spread that misery to everyone.

I don't interact with the YIMBYs who have infested Arlington but I have observed them -- and even smelled them at County Board meetings as they seem to hate deodorant as much as they hate single family zoning. One of their leaders is a sanctimonious trust fund baby who lives in a McMansion overlooking a County park but pontificates about why people do not deserve single family homes. The rest seem to have low paying jobs working for the usual types of non profits and are angry and miserable that their $200K degree from Oberlin means they can only rent a two bedroom apartment in Clarendon. They are unusually strident and are quite pleased with themselves.

If they do want a revolution, I will happily take my place in the front lines with a musket while they throw endless reams of plans, working papers, schemes, and skittles at me.

Bring it on!

Hahaha, spill it! These people are always such hypocrites.

PS the Obies who are slumming it in a two BR apt are just waiting to come into their trust fund or inheritance. They always come from wealthy families and like to think that they are “marginalized” because their non profits salary doesn’t pay for the comfortable lifestyle they were raised in.