Dave Grohl vs Taylor Swift

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Anonymous wrote:OP - BTW the more and more I am reading about Taylor Swift the less I like her. I think she is emotionally stunted (a la Britney Spears) and has a touch of the mean girl tendency. At the minimum she values profit over anything. She could easily reach out to her Swifties and tell them to stop bullying people but she doesn't want to push back on the people who buy her stuff.


So a man has to offer his opinion about a woman in his industry for no reason (he doesn't work with her) and she's the mean girl?

Methinks a lot of men are threatened by women like Taylor Swift. Dave Grohl is a legend, but he didn't hold up our economy last summer.


OP - sorry not saying the mean girl comment is related to Dave Grohl. I think the mean girl comment is more about the the running commentary about how Taylor likes to push her music out when she knows other women are putting out their albums. Maybe its just coincidence however it seems too coincidental that every time another big woman artist comes out (for example Billie Eilish) Taylor decides to re-release some tracks/album.


Why are we even talking about mean girls? Both Taylor and Britney have had massive success. I mean, is there any other way? Why aren't we calling men who have had outsized success mean boys? It's a complete double standard.

In book publishing, authors have releases the same day. I'm not really a fan of anyone mentioned in this thread, but there are schedules and it seems silly to suggest that people ask everyone when to release. Especially when it's often reduced to a single day of the week. That's 52 days for huge industries.


+1 It's beyond BS that this isn't even a blip on the radar of male musicians. NEVER discussed.


With men it's called beef, and it involves things like calling each other statutory rapists and wife beaters, threatening to kill each other, or actually killing each other
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Anonymous wrote:OP - BTW the more and more I am reading about Taylor Swift the less I like her. I think she is emotionally stunted (a la Britney Spears) and has a touch of the mean girl tendency. At the minimum she values profit over anything. She could easily reach out to her Swifties and tell them to stop bullying people but she doesn't want to push back on the people who buy her stuff.


dp OH NO! A stranger on the internet no longer admires Taylor Swift! How will she go on?


She'll shake it off.
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Anonymous wrote:I also read that swifties went after his daughter for making a comment online about Taylor’s private plane


Did his daughter say something? Why should she get a pass? You don't make a public comment if you are unable to handle a pushback.

Does her Dad fly commercial?
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Anonymous wrote:OP - BTW the more and more I am reading about Taylor Swift the less I like her. I think she is emotionally stunted (a la Britney Spears) and has a touch of the mean girl tendency. At the minimum she values profit over anything. She could easily reach out to her Swifties and tell them to stop bullying people but she doesn't want to push back on the people who buy her stuff.


+1. I believe that is the reason Matty Healey got pissed off at her and walked out of her apartment literally in the middle of the night. She always chose fame, PR and her fans over their clandestine (and public for just a fortnight) relationship, but isn’t man enough now to admit she played a part in the breakup and is laying all the blame on him in her latest album.
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Anonymous wrote:Disappointed in Grohl. Why randomly go after a young woman performer? Thought he was such a nice guy.


I agree pp. Beware of the 'nice' guy!
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Anonymous wrote:Disappointed in Grohl. Why randomly go after a young woman performer? Thought he was such a nice guy.


Swift is 34. That's middle aged, in my country.

Dave Grohl lived next door to my husband. Went to school together. Dave's a cool guy.


middle age is 45-65



So we are living to 90 - 130 now?

Um, no.



It’s set by medical professionals.

https://www.britannica.com/science/middle-age

Hon just because the word middle is in the word doesn’t mean you double it.

FFS … 🤦‍♂️
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Anonymous wrote:OP - BTW the more and more I am reading about Taylor Swift the less I like her. I think she is emotionally stunted (a la Britney Spears) and has a touch of the mean girl tendency. At the minimum she values profit over anything. She could easily reach out to her Swifties and tell them to stop bullying people but she doesn't want to push back on the people who buy her stuff.


+1. I believe that is the reason Matty Healey got pissed off at her and walked out of her apartment literally in the middle of the night. She always chose fame, PR and her fans over their clandestine (and public for just a fortnight) relationship, but isn’t man enough now to admit she played a part in the breakup and is laying all the blame on him in her latest album.


No it’s because she caught him doing drugs.
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Anonymous wrote:OP - BTW the more and more I am reading about Taylor Swift the less I like her. I think she is emotionally stunted (a la Britney Spears) and has a touch of the mean girl tendency. At the minimum she values profit over anything. She could easily reach out to her Swifties and tell them to stop bullying people but she doesn't want to push back on the people who buy her stuff.


So a man has to offer his opinion about a woman in his industry for no reason (he doesn't work with her) and she's the mean girl?

Methinks a lot of men are threatened by women like Taylor Swift. Dave Grohl is a legend, but he didn't hold up our economy last summer.


OP - sorry not saying the mean girl comment is related to Dave Grohl. I think the mean girl comment is more about the the running commentary about how Taylor likes to push her music out when she knows other women are putting out their albums. Maybe its just coincidence however it seems too coincidental that every time another big woman artist comes out (for example Billie Eilish) Taylor decides to re-release some tracks/album.


Dp So when the Beatles, The Beach Boys and the Stones were putting out albums at the same time would you say the same thing? Oh Mick Jagger should be more sensitive to Brian Wilson and shouldn't put out any albums? How utterly ridiculous you are pp
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"Living icons" can say stupid stuff too.

They are know for their music not their interpersonal skills. Really wish they would know when to not comment on something doesn't concern them.


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Anonymous wrote:I also read that swifties went after his daughter for making a comment online about Taylor’s private plane


Did his daughter say something? Why should she get a pass? You don't make a public comment if you are unable to handle a pushback.

Does her Dad fly commercial?


I don't support the fans going after the daughter, but I do think it's BS that Taylor is the only famous person I ever hear getting called out for using a private jet.
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Anonymous wrote:OP - BTW the more and more I am reading about Taylor Swift the less I like her. I think she is emotionally stunted (a la Britney Spears) and has a touch of the mean girl tendency. At the minimum she values profit over anything. She could easily reach out to her Swifties and tell them to stop bullying people but she doesn't want to push back on the people who buy her stuff.


+1. I believe that is the reason Matty Healey got pissed off at her and walked out of her apartment literally in the middle of the night. She always chose fame, PR and her fans over their clandestine (and public for just a fortnight) relationship, but isn’t man enough now to admit she played a part in the breakup and is laying all the blame on him in her latest album.


Maybe because she isn't a man? So tired of these expressions that are so dated and sexist "man enough" "grow a pair" Women are way stronger than men and yet we are seen as the 'weaker' sex.

Let's see if a man could do what we do and also be expected to 'smile' and act like we aren't in pain because that would make men uncomfortable!

I don't give two shits about Matty Healey.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I also read that swifties went after his daughter for making a comment online about Taylor’s private plane


Did his daughter say something? Why should she get a pass? You don't make a public comment if you are unable to handle a pushback.

Does her Dad fly commercial?


I don't support the fans going after the daughter, but I do think it's BS that Taylor is the only famous person I ever hear getting called out for using a private jet.


If she is 18 than she is fair game. Don't want to get burnt? Stay off the internet.
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Anonymous wrote:One day, TS won’t be this popular and that will be a very hard time for her.



I doubt it! But you can keep wishing!!
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Anonymous wrote:OP - BTW the more and more I am reading about Taylor Swift the less I like her. I think she is emotionally stunted (a la Britney Spears) and has a touch of the mean girl tendency. At the minimum she values profit over anything. She could easily reach out to her Swifties and tell them to stop bullying people but she doesn't want to push back on the people who buy her stuff.


+1. I believe that is the reason Matty Healey got pissed off at her and walked out of her apartment literally in the middle of the night. She always chose fame, PR and her fans over their clandestine (and public for just a fortnight) relationship, but isn’t man enough now to admit she played a part in the breakup and is laying all the blame on him in her latest album.


Maybe because she isn't a man? So tired of these expressions that are so dated and sexist "man enough" "grow a pair" Women are way stronger than men and yet we are seen as the 'weaker' sex.

Let's see if a man could do what we do and also be expected to 'smile' and act like we aren't in pain because that would make men uncomfortable!

I don't give two shits about Matty Healey.


She has a song called “The Man.” 🤷‍♀️

And while you don’t give two shits about Matty, he inspired half of her hits from the past decade, and she clearly gave a lot more than two shits, seeing how she was down so bad that couldn’t get out of bed.
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Anonymous wrote:One day, TS won’t be this popular and that will be a very hard time for her.



I think she’s already reached her peak. Her latest album was a disappointment. Her fans are getting older and will naturally develop more sophisticated tastes. It’s great that she’s had so much success, but the music industry is fickle.
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