"Health panel urges interventions for children and teens with high BMI"

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Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't the nutritionist want your child to log calories?

Pure guess here. Maybe the nutritionist doesn't want OP's DD to get hung up on food control to a calorie level. That's a lot for a teen.

Better than being hung up on a drug that no one knows the long term effects of.

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Anonymous wrote:everyone, its the seed oils in EVERYTHING, i really mean this.

you might be teaching portion control, no sodas/chips, watching calories in and calories out, but if you/your child is getting most their food highly processed or boxed or prepared veggies with low fat ranch, chances are it is saturated with canola/soy/palm/seed oils that is contributing to the weight gain. if you give your child goldfish, veggie crackers, nutra-grain bars, granola bars, pretzels, all of this has seed oil in it.

its the seed oils in literally everything that are making everyone sick.


https://health.clevelandclinic.org/seed-oils-are-they-actually-toxic

Seed oils aren’t even close to being in everything. Unless you eat exclusively from the inner aisles at the grocery store. There are plenty of food options, even affordable ones, that do not contain seed oils. This has always been the case even before “seed oils” became the new bad thing.

Virtually all convenience shelf stable foods have seed oils, goldfish, crackers, cookies, chips. The only thing that doesn't are pretzels. Yogurt tubes have sugar. My husband keeps buying added sugar yogurt when I tell him not to. You have to eat a pretty different diet from the typical american to avoid sugar and seed oils. Social events are drowning in sugar and seed oils. My son was at a math competition practice and ate an adult sized muffin and donut. If you tried to serve a fruit salad and charcuterie board to kids half of them wouldn't touch anything and 100% of the parents would think you are crazy

It’s not the seed oils, it’s that the things they are often in are processed, low nutrient foods. Ranch on your veggies isn’t the problem (in moderation).

I actually became an anti-Ranch nazi when I noticed it seemed to leave red angry marks on the corner of my kid's mouths where it used to be. I guess I am a hypocrite because I haven't 100% excised it from our diets. If you were to go full bore no seed oils it would really be a major pain and socially isolating

Umm...this sounds like an allergy.

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Anonymous wrote:Y’all need to read “Fat Talk” by Virginia Sole-Smith

Google imaged her pic and she is 100+ pounds overweight, as I thought. Hard pass.

How nice that you decide on which authors to read based on their BMI. You are the problem.

Uh yeah, I don't read diet books by fat people, don't read fitness books written by dad bods. Guilty as charged

It’s not a diet book, but you can’t look past the author’s weight to even get to what the book is about.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I promise you that if you do a deep dive into what she’s actually eating and accurately look at the calories in vs calories out, it’d be very apparent why she’s overweight.

It doesn’t have to be junk, a lot of it is portion size or mindlessly eating “healthy” snacks.

that's nice but when your "child" is a teen (older teen?) there's not much you can do -- if anything -- to induce weight loss. You control very little.

Parents of 4 year olds who control every single aspect of that preschooler's world forget this.

I have two teen boys and I say baloney to this. They mostly eat what I buy and have in the house. If they are making bad choices, I point it out.

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Anonymous wrote:It is really hard when your teen is mostly in charge of their own eating. Mine just came back from camp-- they have pizza and ice cream during the day. Then her friend's mom took her for Starbucks, where they got grande frappes. Junk food is everywhere and it's asking a lot of a 13-year-old to turn it down.

+1 We lived overseas and our kids were skinny and eating natural foods (things that grow on trees and in farms) because that’s what everyone did. Here in the US they are bombarded with lab made garbage all day long because American society loves money more than children.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I promise you that if you do a deep dive into what she’s actually eating and accurately look at the calories in vs calories out, it’d be very apparent why she’s overweight.

It doesn’t have to be junk, a lot of it is portion size or mindlessly eating “healthy” snacks.

Please stop with this old fashioned simplicity. Not all people who are overweight are so due to input. It's what the body does and does not do with the input. Not every human body can/does process food the same way.

For most people, it is that simple. We all know it, but it’s rude to say, so we have to pretend it’s something else. Everyone wants fat to be something that happened to them, instead of what it is—something they are doing to themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't the nutritionist want your child to log calories?

How is this even a question? It sets teen girls up for disordered eating patterns. To the OP- your daughter may be overweight, but your approach is setting her up for a lifetime of disordered eating to boot. Did she ask for your advice? Does she want your help with her weight? If not, then you’re doing much more harm to her than good.

My advice to the OP:

-model healthy eating and attitudes toward food and weight
-verbal affirmation from you regularly - whatever non-weight related things you can praise
-be a listening ear and provide advice if asked but do not be critical of her weight or body
-be attuned to what’s going on socially. Does she have good peer influences? Any chance she is or has been bullied? You need to ask her good, thoughtful questions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't the nutritionist want your child to log calories?

How is this even a question? It sets teen girls up for disordered eating patterns. To the OP- your daughter may be overweight, but your approach is setting her up for a lifetime of disordered eating to boot. Did she ask for your advice? Does she want your help with her weight? If not, then you’re doing much more harm to her than good.

My advice to the OP:

-model healthy eating and attitudes toward food and weight
-verbal affirmation from you regularly - whatever non-weight related things you can praise
-be a listening ear and provide advice if asked but do not be critical of her weight or body
-be attuned to what’s going on socially. Does she have good peer influences? Any chance she is or has been bullied? You need to ask her good, thoughtful questions.

Lol. I can’t even….

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Anonymous wrote:I am the compulsive eater poster. Back then, it was attributed to "glands" or whatever...but honestly it was what I ate! There was no mystery about why I was fat and kept gaining. I ate adult sized portions at meals, was my mother's eating buddy, and sneaked food from age 6.
I did not have thyroid problems, PCOS, or anything. After getting myself some help for my eating disorder at age 27 I lost the excess weight easily. Kept most of it off for over 40 years.
She may be eating things you aren't aware of. The nutritionist is anti logging because that makes compulsive eaters more compulsive. Weight Watchers made me nuts, lol not lol.

Was it adhd or asd?
Or just anxiety?

What was causing all the compulsive over-eating?

Either way, congrats! I am searching for a way to launch my impulse eater daughter. She’s overweight, inhales carbs if they’re around, hoards and hides sweets, etc.

I would suggest having her do cardio and go for the 10,000 steps a day. Whenever I start tracking and I realize how much effort it is to burn even 200 calories I start being more selective in what I eat

I'm a nearly 50 yr old woman who just started going to the gym and I agree. I also have started tracking calories, etc with an app. Very eye opening to see how many calories, fat, etc are in each food I eat.

+10000

And in coffee drinks, wine, other alcoholics drinks. +400 calories liquid sugary “meal”.
Once metabolisms slow in mid 40s, do not continue to eat like you’re 25…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Y’all need to read “Fat Talk” by Virginia Sole-Smith

Google imaged her pic and she is 100+ pounds overweight, as I thought. Hard pass.

How nice that you decide on which authors to read based on their BMI. You are the problem.

I appreciate knowing. I also read the bio of an author of a book or article, before reading the article. You know their likely biases asap.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Y’all need to read “Fat Talk” by Virginia Sole-Smith

Google imaged her pic and she is 100+ pounds overweight, as I thought. Hard pass.

How nice that you decide on which authors to read based on their BMI. You are the problem.

Uh yeah, I don't read diet books by fat people, don't read fitness books written by dad bods. Guilty as charged

It’s not a diet book, but you can’t look past the author’s weight to even get to what the book is about.

What’s the book about? Body positivity, copyright 2021?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I promise you that if you do a deep dive into what she’s actually eating and accurately look at the calories in vs calories out, it’d be very apparent why she’s overweight.

It doesn’t have to be junk, a lot of it is portion size or mindlessly eating “healthy” snacks.

Please stop with this old fashioned simplicity. Not all people who are overweight are so due to input. It's what the body does and does not do with the input. Not every human body can/does process food the same way.

For most people, it is that simple. We all know it, but it’s rude to say, so we have to pretend it’s something else. Everyone wants fat to be something that happened to them, instead of what it is—something they are doing to themselves.

+1.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't the nutritionist want your child to log calories?

How is this even a question? It sets teen girls up for disordered eating patterns. To the OP- your daughter may be overweight, but your approach is setting her up for a lifetime of disordered eating to boot. Did she ask for your advice? Does she want your help with her weight? If not, then you’re doing much more harm to her than good.

My advice to the OP:

-model healthy eating and attitudes toward food and weight
-verbal affirmation from you regularly - whatever non-weight related things you can praise
-be a listening ear and provide advice if asked but do not be critical of her weight or body
-be attuned to what’s going on socially. Does she have good peer influences? Any chance she is or has been bullied? You need to ask her good, thoughtful questions.

One could make the argument that eating oneself into overweight status is already an eating disorder.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't the nutritionist want your child to log calories?

How is this even a question? It sets teen girls up for disordered eating patterns. To the OP- your daughter may be overweight, but your approach is setting her up for a lifetime of disordered eating to boot. Did she ask for your advice? Does she want your help with her weight? If not, then you’re doing much more harm to her than good.

My advice to the OP:

-model healthy eating and attitudes toward food and weight
-verbal affirmation from you regularly - whatever non-weight related things you can praise
-be a listening ear and provide advice if asked but do not be critical of her weight or body
-be attuned to what’s going on socially. Does she have good peer influences? Any chance she is or has been bullied? You need to ask her good, thoughtful questions.

One could make the argument that eating oneself into overweight status is already an eating disorder.

Facts. And we’ve so lost the plot people can’t even admit this any longer. My good friend had three healthy weight kids who became teens at still a healthy weight. Then Covid hit, we didn’t seem them for a year or so and now the two girls are absolutely enormous! I literally didnt recognize them. The son is still a normal weight.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't the nutritionist want your child to log calories?

How is this even a question? It sets teen girls up for disordered eating patterns. To the OP- your daughter may be overweight, but your approach is setting her up for a lifetime of disordered eating to boot. Did she ask for your advice? Does she want your help with her weight? If not, then you’re doing much more harm to her than good.

My advice to the OP:

-model healthy eating and attitudes toward food and weight
-verbal affirmation from you regularly - whatever non-weight related things you can praise
-be a listening ear and provide advice if asked but do not be critical of her weight or body
-be attuned to what’s going on socially. Does she have good peer influences? Any chance she is or has been bullied? You need to ask her good, thoughtful questions.

One could make the argument that eating oneself into overweight status is already an eating disorder.

Exactly this! She already has disordered eating. If your kid had some other kind of health disorder, you would jump in to help. But, with food, everyone is supposed to passively sit back and watch their kids balloon up for fear that their kid will become “disordered.” But they already are!

She’s not going to thank you for telling her she was a cute chubby teen when she’s a chronically overweight diabetic 45 year old.