“They won’t go to kindergarten in diapers!”…well, actually, they are.

[Anonymous]

It doesn’t matter why the kids are in diapers at 5. They don’t belong in a regular classroom. Teachers are not equipped to deal with that. IDEA mandates things without funds. We don’t have money to out a diaper aide in kindergarten classrooms.

[Anonymous]

My cousin is an assistant principal for an elementary school in the Carolinas and says this is absolutely happening. She’s says this was not an issue ten, twenty years ago.

[Anonymous]

Barring true special needs, if your kindergartner is not potty trained then you have failed as a parent. No excuses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t matter why the kids are in diapers at 5. They don’t belong in a regular classroom. Teachers are not equipped to deal with that. IDEA mandates things without funds. We don’t have money to out a diaper aide in kindergarten classrooms.

So much for the least restrictive environment requirement. Sorry my smart kid with cerebral palsy who will always use diapers is an inconvenience to you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, I get it…you shouldn’t have to deal with that (literal) crap. And if it is just that the parents were too lazy to potty train, then that’s unacceptable.

However, I am also the parent of a child with an intellectual disability who has gastrointestinal issues, and it is possible that he won’t be potty trained by the time he starts kindergarten. I hope his teachers will be accommodating. The kids involved may well have special needs that have not yet been diagnosed. I’d reserve judgement until you meet the families.

Sorry, but in this instance kids who cannot use a bathroom independently should not be mainstreamed. Teachers have overflowing classrooms and don’t have time to change diapers.

So a child with, say, a physical disability that prevents them from ever using a bathroom independently shouldn't be allowed in a gen ed classroom? That is against the law, so it's a good thing you aren't in charge. Schools can provide aides if necessary.

Np. This whole thread is about kids without disabilities who are not potty trained in Kindergarten. You're talking about a different subject entirely.

The person I replied to said that no one, disability or otherwise, should be allowed in a mainstream classroom unless they can use the bathroom independently.

No they didn't. They said "in this instance." I don't think anyone here has said kids with disabilities aren't allowed in mainstream classrooms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t matter why the kids are in diapers at 5. They don’t belong in a regular classroom. Teachers are not equipped to deal with that. IDEA mandates things without funds. We don’t have money to out a diaper aide in kindergarten classrooms.

So much for the least restrictive environment requirement. Sorry my smart kid with cerebral palsy who will always use diapers is an inconvenience to you.

Where does the money come from?

[Anonymous]

Preschool teacher here: constipation is an epidemic and such a real issue. These kids have to be on laxatives for a very long time to undo the damage. That’s why they need diapers. Not because they’re not “potty trained”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t matter why the kids are in diapers at 5. They don’t belong in a regular classroom. Teachers are not equipped to deal with that. IDEA mandates things without funds. We don’t have money to out a diaper aide in kindergarten classrooms.

So much for the least restrictive environment requirement. Sorry my smart kid with cerebral palsy who will always use diapers is an inconvenience to you.

Again, not what we're talking about. It's ok. Nobody is picking on you or kids with disabilities here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Preschool teacher here: constipation is an epidemic and such a real issue. These kids have to be on laxatives for a very long time to undo the damage. That’s why they need diapers. Not because they’re not “potty trained”

Why is constipation so common?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t matter why the kids are in diapers at 5. They don’t belong in a regular classroom. Teachers are not equipped to deal with that. IDEA mandates things without funds. We don’t have money to out a diaper aide in kindergarten classrooms.

So much for the least restrictive environment requirement. Sorry my smart kid with cerebral palsy who will always use diapers is an inconvenience to you.

Again, not what we're talking about. It's ok. Nobody is picking on you or kids with disabilities here.

The pp wrote, "It doesn’t matter why the kids are in diapers at 5. They don’t belong in a regular classroom."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, I get it…you shouldn’t have to deal with that (literal) crap. And if it is just that the parents were too lazy to potty train, then that’s unacceptable.

However, I am also the parent of a child with an intellectual disability who has gastrointestinal issues, and it is possible that he won’t be potty trained by the time he starts kindergarten. I hope his teachers will be accommodating. The kids involved may well have special needs that have not yet been diagnosed. I’d reserve judgement until you meet the families.

Sorry, but in this instance kids who cannot use a bathroom independently should not be mainstreamed. Teachers have overflowing classrooms and don’t have time to change diapers.

So a child with, say, a physical disability that prevents them from ever using a bathroom independently shouldn't be allowed in a gen ed classroom? That is against the law, so it's a good thing you aren't in charge. Schools can provide aides if necessary.

Np. This whole thread is about kids without disabilities who are not potty trained in Kindergarten. You're talking about a different subject entirely.

Given that all three kids have 504’s someone has diagnosed them with a disability.

Not really. A ped writing a note saying "Larlo is constipated and needs to wear diapers" will get the 504. Its not some big process like it is with an IEP. A 504 can literally be something like "is allowed to use the private bathroom in the nurse office" or "cannot be denied bathroom access." Stuff like that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, I get it…you shouldn’t have to deal with that (literal) crap. And if it is just that the parents were too lazy to potty train, then that’s unacceptable.

However, I am also the parent of a child with an intellectual disability who has gastrointestinal issues, and it is possible that he won’t be potty trained by the time he starts kindergarten. I hope his teachers will be accommodating. The kids involved may well have special needs that have not yet been diagnosed. I’d reserve judgement until you meet the families.

Sorry, but in this instance kids who cannot use a bathroom independently should not be mainstreamed. Teachers have overflowing classrooms and don’t have time to change diapers.

So a child with, say, a physical disability that prevents them from ever using a bathroom independently shouldn't be allowed in a gen ed classroom? That is against the law, so it's a good thing you aren't in charge. Schools can provide aides if necessary.

Np. This whole thread is about kids without disabilities who are not potty trained in Kindergarten. You're talking about a different subject entirely.

Given that all three kids have 504’s someone has diagnosed them with a disability.

Not really. A ped writing a note saying "Larlo is constipated and needs to wear diapers" will get the 504. Its not some big process like it is with an IEP. A 504 can literally be something like "is allowed to use the private bathroom in the nurse office" or "cannot be denied bathroom access." Stuff like that.

Those are disability accommodations. Yes, the 504 process is easier but it still requires a disability, it just doesn’t have to be one that impacts learning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t matter why the kids are in diapers at 5. They don’t belong in a regular classroom. Teachers are not equipped to deal with that. IDEA mandates things without funds. We don’t have money to out a diaper aide in kindergarten classrooms.

So much for the least restrictive environment requirement. Sorry my smart kid with cerebral palsy who will always use diapers is an inconvenience to you.

Where does the money come from?

Where does the money to warehouse kids in segregated programs come from? It’s the same pot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t matter why the kids are in diapers at 5. They don’t belong in a regular classroom. Teachers are not equipped to deal with that. IDEA mandates things without funds. We don’t have money to out a diaper aide in kindergarten classrooms.

So much for the least restrictive environment requirement. Sorry my smart kid with cerebral palsy who will always use diapers is an inconvenience to you.

LRE is unfunded and poorly implemented. Its a stupid standard and needs to be modified. Its ruining everything. Give it 10 more years and the only kids left in school will be disabled or poor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, I get it…you shouldn’t have to deal with that (literal) crap. And if it is just that the parents were too lazy to potty train, then that’s unacceptable.

However, I am also the parent of a child with an intellectual disability who has gastrointestinal issues, and it is possible that he won’t be potty trained by the time he starts kindergarten. I hope his teachers will be accommodating. The kids involved may well have special needs that have not yet been diagnosed. I’d reserve judgement until you meet the families.

Sorry, but in this instance kids who cannot use a bathroom independently should not be mainstreamed. Teachers have overflowing classrooms and don’t have time to change diapers.

So a child with, say, a physical disability that prevents them from ever using a bathroom independently shouldn't be allowed in a gen ed classroom? That is against the law, so it's a good thing you aren't in charge. Schools can provide aides if necessary.

Np. This whole thread is about kids without disabilities who are not potty trained in Kindergarten. You're talking about a different subject entirely.

Given that all three kids have 504’s someone has diagnosed them with a disability.

Not really. A ped writing a note saying "Larlo is constipated and needs to wear diapers" will get the 504. Its not some big process like it is with an IEP. A 504 can literally be something like "is allowed to use the private bathroom in the nurse office" or "cannot be denied bathroom access." Stuff like that.

Those are disability accommodations. Yes, the 504 process is easier but it still requires a disability, it just doesn’t have to be one that impacts learning.

You know that a "disability" can be something temporary like a sprained ankle or mono. It doesn't "require" anything.