Ivy League Schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I went to
Harvard. i would no longer send my kids there or any of the ivies. i want them to get an education not political indoctrination from the extreme left. Both are going to either Canada or Oxford ( already accepted)

Sorry, but protests are happening in Canada and the UK. McGill and Oxford already have protests going on.
Seriously, though, this is what students do. They protest, and when you have very large protests that happen internationally, you should listen. Students were not wrong about Vietnam or South Africa, even though at the time students were criticized by people probably like you for being naive, unpatriotic, hypocritical, etc.

[Anonymous]

Ivy grad who will not send my kids. Look take your own risks, call me names and tell me my kids can't get in (they can). The ivy league has become complete garbage. Even if your child does not participate in this cult like behavior, too many employers will be afraid to hire them. No way I would invest the money in an ivy education anymore. Zero return on investment and too much risk of what the education will do to my children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went to
Harvard. i would no longer send my kids there or any of the ivies. i want them to get an education not political indoctrination from the extreme left. Both are going to either Canada or Oxford ( already accepted)

+2000

+100,000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went to
Harvard. i would no longer send my kids there or any of the ivies. i want them to get an education not political indoctrination from the extreme left. Both are going to either Canada or Oxford ( already accepted)

Sorry, but protests are happening in Canada and the UK. McGill and Oxford already have protests going on.
Seriously, though, this is what students do. They protest, and when you have very large protests that happen internationally, you should listen. Students were not wrong about Vietnam or South Africa, even though at the time students were criticized by people probably like you for being naive, unpatriotic, hypocritical, etc.

uh, the same parent who posted this (harvard, harvard law) currently has a kid at Oxford. you are wrong. nice try but you never considererd the truth did you?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no "instant credibility for life" as stated by another poster for most Ivy league schools.

Princeton and U Penn-Wharton along with Harvard arguably provide the most assumed credibility.

But when one shares that he/she is a graduate of Brown, Penn (non-Wharton grads), Cornell, Dartmouth, Columbia, or Yale, thoughts other than credibility come to mind.

Broadly speaking, an Ivy League degree suggests that one is smart, hard-working,and ambitious--but, this is true for graduates of northwestern, Chicago, MIT, Stanford, JHU, Duke, WashUStL, Emory, Berkeley, Amherst, Swarthmore, Wellesley, the 3 main service academies, Georgia Tech, CS and engineering majors from many state flagships and many other schools. My assumption is that these non-Ivy grads are just as qualified as any Ivy grad except regarding U Penn-Wharton. I also assume that these non-Ivy grads choose not to pursue any Ivy League education.

PP here.

I sort of agree, but don't think that state school grads get the same presumption of being "smart, hard-working and ambitious" absent other tangible evidence of accomplishment (grades, career accomplishments, etc.).

I don't AGREE with this, but it holds true in my experience.

It depends on the major.

It's safe to assume that anyone graduating with a degree in CS or Engineering from Georgia Tech, UIUC, Purdue, Berkeley, UMD, Texas, Washington, or Michigan is smarter and more accomplished than their counterparts in the same majors at Yale or Brown.

Absolute BS. The kids who come out of top public STEM magnets (TJ, NCCSM, many others) and top privates including day and boarding schools send the top STEM kids to usnews T10 privates and ivies(more Penn/PRinceton/cornell/columbia for stem than the others, but even Yale and Brown do not get lesser STEM kids). CMU and Berkeley get equivalent kids. The slightly less smart and accomplished kids go to the next group down (GT, UT, UIUC, Purdue). The only kids who pick the latter group are the ones who did not get into the top tier OR the family made them pick for money.

We know many kids at GT , Purdue who were smart enough to go to the top tier but got shut out(asians) and they are bored with the ease of classes, coming from their top STEM magnet HS it is a drop in rigor . No one reports back that MIT or Princeton or Penn or Stanford are easy for Engineering. These kids were all top of the high school and top in STEM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ivy grad who will not send my kids. Look take your own risks, call me names and tell me my kids can't get in (they can). The ivy league has become complete garbage. Even if your child does not participate in this cult like behavior, too many employers will be afraid to hire them. No way I would invest the money in an ivy education anymore. Zero return on investment and too much risk of what the education will do to my children.

Doubt you are really an Ivy grad cause people would not curse their padigree unless something like their kids wasn't let in their alma mater.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no "instant credibility for life" as stated by another poster for most Ivy league schools.

Princeton and U Penn-Wharton along with Harvard arguably provide the most assumed credibility.

But when one shares that he/she is a graduate of Brown, Penn (non-Wharton grads), Cornell, Dartmouth, Columbia, or Yale, thoughts other than credibility come to mind.

Broadly speaking, an Ivy League degree suggests that one is smart, hard-working,and ambitious--but, this is true for graduates of northwestern, Chicago, MIT, Stanford, JHU, Duke, WashUStL, Emory, Berkeley, Amherst, Swarthmore, Wellesley, the 3 main service academies, Georgia Tech, CS and engineering majors from many state flagships and many other schools. My assumption is that these non-Ivy grads are just as qualified as any Ivy grad except regarding U Penn-Wharton. I also assume that these non-Ivy grads choose not to pursue any Ivy League education.

PP here.

I sort of agree, but don't think that state school grads get the same presumption of being "smart, hard-working and ambitious" absent other tangible evidence of accomplishment (grades, career accomplishments, etc.).

I don't AGREE with this, but it holds true in my experience.

It depends on the major.

It's safe to assume that anyone graduating with a degree in CS or Engineering from Georgia Tech, UIUC, Purdue, Berkeley, UMD, Texas, Washington, or Michigan is smarter and more accomplished than their counterparts in the same majors at Yale or Brown.

That doesn't make any sense. Perhaps you mean anyone accepted OOS to those schools? Even then...the career outcomes don't justify anything you indicate.

Take a look at the WSJ highest paying undergrads for all STEM fields. Nearly every Ivy League school shows better career outcomes compared to every state school you list for STEM jobs. Only Berkeley registers when comparing the schools. UMD doesn't even make a single one of the lists for STEM careers.

https://www.wsj.com/news/collection/college-pay-80428504

Exactly. All the ivies are not worth it posters and ivies are "bad at STEM" do not seem to be data-driven thinkers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My son has been accepted to a couple Ivy League schools and I just wanted to hear opinions from others, what are some of the benefits of an Ivy over another top 50 school?

What's YOUR opinion?

It's your son that got accepted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went to
Harvard. i would no longer send my kids there or any of the ivies. i want them to get an education not political indoctrination from the extreme left. Both are going to either Canada or Oxford ( already accepted)

Sorry, but protests are happening in Canada and the UK. McGill and Oxford already have protests going on.
Seriously, though, this is what students do. They protest, and when you have very large protests that happen internationally, you should listen. Students were not wrong about Vietnam or South Africa, even though at the time students were criticized by people probably like you for being naive, unpatriotic, hypocritical, etc.

uh, the same parent who posted this (harvard, harvard law) currently has a kid at Oxford. you are wrong. nice try but you never considererd the truth did you?

Are you stupid or simply incapable of doing an internet search? Oxford mum's kid is probably holding back info to avoid a rapid parental response.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-mcgill-calls-pro-palestinian-camp-illegal-levels-accusations-of/
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68909910

[Anonymous]

Two things --

Most Ivy League schools are quite pleasant places to go to school. Not too big, not too small and in nice locations with great professors.

Second, it does matter in terms of getting jobs. My DS went to Brown and I think it helped him stand out when he applied for jobs and get that first interview, which is the most important step in any job search. He noted that it opened doors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ivy grad who will not send my kids. Look take your own risks, call me names and tell me my kids can't get in (they can). The ivy league has become complete garbage. Even if your child does not participate in this cult like behavior, too many employers will be afraid to hire them. No way I would invest the money in an ivy education anymore. Zero return on investment and too much risk of what the education will do to my children.

Doubt you are really an Ivy grad cause people would not curse their padigree unless something like their kids wasn't let in their alma mater.

I think there are a lot of fake Ivy grads on this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ivy grad who will not send my kids. Look take your own risks, call me names and tell me my kids can't get in (they can). The ivy league has become complete garbage. Even if your child does not participate in this cult like behavior, too many employers will be afraid to hire them. No way I would invest the money in an ivy education anymore. Zero return on investment and too much risk of what the education will do to my children.

I put the odds of your actually having attended an Ivy at about 15%, but please go on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went to
Harvard. i would no longer send my kids there or any of the ivies. i want them to get an education not political indoctrination from the extreme left. Both are going to either Canada or Oxford ( already accepted)

+2000

+100,000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ivy grad who will not send my kids. Look take your own risks, call me names and tell me my kids can't get in (they can). The ivy league has become complete garbage. Even if your child does not participate in this cult like behavior, too many employers will be afraid to hire them. No way I would invest the money in an ivy education anymore. Zero return on investment and too much risk of what the education will do to my children.

I put the odds of your actually having attended an Ivy at about 15%, but please go on.

different Ivy grad but I agree with all stated here

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went to
Harvard. i would no longer send my kids there or any of the ivies. i want them to get an education not political indoctrination from the extreme left. Both are going to either Canada or Oxford ( already accepted)

Perhaps because you know they won’t get in.

This. Know so many pissed off alum that legacy didn’t get their kids in—much easier to say it was by their choice. Lol