Is there any reason not to go to George Mason?

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Anonymous wrote:It seems fine. The drawbacks I heard about, but this was about 5 years ago, was the 1. there was some agreement with the Koch Foundation related to donors having input into hiring decisions 2. Anthony Scalia estate created a trust to teach law and Econ from a conservative perspective but I think this trust was for the law school.

Oh shyt! For real?? I had not heard about the sordid ties! Anything else??

lol. and both statements are incorrect. there is no such thing as "Anthony Scalia estate ". the level of ignorance on this forum is truly amazing

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If my kid would be happy with the culture/environment I would definitely be happy with the school. It has some very strong programs and good faculty. I’ve seen a lot of very good outcomes and know grads who had positive experiences.

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There was money from Koch. And the law school is named for Scalia now. The agreements, though? Not sure what those actually contain. I had heard these things before, but am unsure if they were verified.

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Anonymous wrote:It's fine. It's sort of a manufactured university setting. No traditions. Student Life is not a priority.

I suspect PP meant this as a negative but the vast majority of universities in other countries don't give two hoots about traditions, student life, frats, football and all the nonsense whose primary reason is to build a brand and eventually charge more. Most focus on educating students so they can go out and get jobs. GMU (or is is GM now?) does a fantastic job at that!

DP here. WTH kind of student does not want to actually have the college experience? It doesn't have to be frats or football games, but something? Anything? Do they not want or need human interaction?? That's.....odd.....

Mason is not the same as colleges overseas, though. Overseas is well, overseas.

Mason is for kids who want/need close to home, even if they are not commuting. Though it seems primarily still a commuter school.

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utterly false. DD spent four great years enjoyinf a full dorm experience at GMU with INTERNATIONAL and OOS (as in Akaska,CA and Nevada) students as her room or suite-mates! she went to Mason Korea and Japan. Mason arranged for three paid internships in her field during the three summers and was hired by MicroSoft before graduation. GMU is now the largest R1 University in the Commonwealth with five VA campuses and the Korea one with 41,000 students. GMU was reclassified by the Carnegie Foundation as a "primarily residential" college (i.e., not resudential) more than 16 years ago. Go and visit all five VA campuses and see the dorm life before you make such ignorant comments. i know several GMU Honors students now in T3 law schools.

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Anonymous wrote:It's fine. It's sort of a manufactured university setting. No traditions. Student Life is not a priority.

I suspect PP meant this as a negative but the vast majority of universities in other countries don't give two hoots about traditions, student life, frats, football and all the nonsense whose primary reason is to build a brand and eventually charge more. Most focus on educating students so they can go out and get jobs. GMU (or is is GM now?) does a fantastic job at that!

DP here. WTH kind of student does not want to actually have the college experience? It doesn't have to be frats or football games, but something? Anything? Do they not want or need human interaction?? That's.....odd.....

Do you think kids in other countries don't have the 'college experience'? I just said that the experience is not the primary focus of the college. Education is. Of course there's a college experience but that's not what they are 'selling' you and it will never be as good as the colleges meant for adolescents (mine included).

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Anonymous wrote:DS got into the George Mason honors program and that's where he really wants to attend. He thinks it's a good fit for his desired major (political science), opportunities for internships and the students seem hardworking but not over the top, and not fratty. I agree it seems to be a good fit for him, but I also see people in the area dismissing GMU. Maybe because it has a high, not selective, admissions rate, or maybe because it's close to home. Those things don't bother DS. Is there any actual reason to steer away from this school? We liked what we see, and would have thought more people would feel the same.

Most HS kids have the adolescent desire for frats, football games and all the stuff that comes with a big college town. If your son doesn't care for those, Mason is absolutely a great school to attend. A lot of kids go to Mason because it's the best option for them for academic or financial reasons. Your son attending Mason because that's where he wants to be has a leg up over the others and will thrive.

No. You cannot speak for "most" HS kids because you don't know them, you only know a small number via your own kids and they may well not be representative of the majority. Its like saying "most Frat boys are rapists and meat heads". It might be true for some, but not all.

NP here. Actually, I think PP was spot on -- it's very safe to say that "most" students want the trappings of the traditional 4-year university. It's an intangible thing. Your insistence to the contrary reeks of projection.

and you reek of shit

Perhaps all the “trappings” that you despise are the building blocks of, oh, don’t know…maybe social skills?

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Anonymous wrote:There was money from Koch. And the law school is named for Scalia now. The agreements, though? Not sure what those actually contain. I had heard these things before, but am unsure if they were verified.

Scalia Law was just pushed up four slots by USNWR in the nation. To 26. Maybe you should check your bigoted opinions before posting? i woukd be thrilled if my kid got in to Scalya law. its way ahead of American and other local law schooks. Maybe, just maybe, Scalia is doing something right in the eyes of legal professionals? Like don't lawyers have to learn to argue all sides of a case to truly represent their varying clients' interests? Shouldn't they understand differing political and economic (Koch) points of view? not everyone is a dcum liberal who just repears sad anti-right facts without understanding what they arre talking about.

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It has a lower pedigree. You can still learn there but, their name will be on your resume/c.v. Forever.

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Anonymous wrote:It's fine. It's sort of a manufactured university setting. No traditions. Student Life is not a priority.

I suspect PP meant this as a negative but the vast majority of universities in other countries don't give two hoots about traditions, student life, frats, football and all the nonsense whose primary reason is to build a brand and eventually charge more. Most focus on educating students so they can go out and get jobs. GMU (or is is GM now?) does a fantastic job at that!

DP here. WTH kind of student does not want to actually have the college experience? It doesn't have to be frats or football games, but something? Anything? Do they not want or need human interaction?? That's.....odd.....

Mason is not the same as colleges overseas, though. Overseas is well, overseas.

Mason is for kids who want/need close to home, even if they are not commuting. Though it seems primarily still a commuter school.

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utterly false. DD spent four great years enjoyinf a full dorm experience at GMU with INTERNATIONAL and OOS (as in Akaska,CA and Nevada) students as her room or suite-mates! she went to Mason Korea and Japan. Mason arranged for three paid internships in her field during the three summers and was hired by MicroSoft before graduation. GMU is now the largest R1 University in the Commonwealth with five VA campuses and the Korea one with 41,000 students. GMU was reclassified by the Carnegie Foundation as a "primarily residential" college (i.e., not resudential) more than 16 years ago. Go and visit all five VA campuses and see the dorm life before you make such ignorant comments. i know several GMU Honors students now in T3 law schools.

Extremely defensive mommy whose kid didn't get in anywhere else has entered the chat...

I did a grad degree at Mason fairly recently. The campus felt very much like a commuter school to me. But please, ramble on about how your DC's job at Microsoft somehow contradicts that, lol.

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Anonymous wrote:Will add that DC is in the honors program and it is excellent.

How so?

i know several honors students from GMU currently in top grad and law schools in the US. I wrote letters of rec for two of them

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Anonymous wrote:Congratulations to your child on getting into a school with close to a 100% admission rate. Getting admitted must have been hard and employers will be impressed by that line on his resume for the rest of his life. If you can get into a school with open admissions, what can't you do?

You are a jackass

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Anonymous wrote:There was money from Koch. And the law school is named for Scalia now. The agreements, though? Not sure what those actually contain. I had heard these things before, but am unsure if they were verified.

Scalia Law was just pushed up four slots by USNWR in the nation. To 26. Maybe you should check your bigoted opinions before posting? i woukd be thrilled if my kid got in to Scalya law. its way ahead of American and other local law schooks. Maybe, just maybe, Scalia is doing something right in the eyes of legal professionals? Like don't lawyers have to learn to argue all sides of a case to truly represent their varying clients' interests? Shouldn't they understand differing political and economic (Koch) points of view? not everyone is a dcum liberal who just repears sad anti-right facts without understanding what they arre talking about.

Where in my post did I say any of the things you are accusing me of? I only noted that the Law School now bears Scalia’s name. That’s it. I didn’t talk about rank or anything.

I was just noting that the law school name is a fact and that GMU has received Koch money. The rest that the other poster said would need to be checked/verified.

Get some sleep and take your meds.

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Anonymous wrote:It has a lower pedigree. You can still learn there but, their name will be on your resume/c.v. Forever.

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Anonymous wrote:The law and policy faculty in Arlington are libertarian at the least if that matters.

As in the majority of the faculty of these schools belong to the libertarian party? You would think this would be more widely known.

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Anonymous wrote:The law and policy faculty in Arlington are libertarian at the least if that matters.

As in the majority of the faculty of these schools belong to the libertarian party? You would think this would be more widely known.

bizarre assertion and even if true imagine the horror of learning law and econ from a libertarian point of view! thats exactly what made U of Chicago Law & Econ a powerhouse. Harvard Law even hired a few away to teach slobs like me