How good is Vanderbilt?

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Vanderbilt is still ranked 13 in this list which measures career outcomes, I recommend Vanderbilt over Cornell or Brown. Plus a better college experience doesn't hurt.

No one cares

Blindly supporting a sports conference doesn't make other schools bad. Vanderbilt is a peer if not better than those aforementioned schools.

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Vanderbilt is still ranked 13 in this list which measures career outcomes, I recommend Vanderbilt over Cornell or Brown. Plus a better college experience doesn't hurt.

Vanderbilt only shows up on 1 of 9 lists of WSJ highest-paying jobs, while every Ivy school shows up on every list.

On payscale which measures average overall graduate salaries, Vanderbilt is #68, while the lowest-rated Ivy from payscale is Cornell at #39.

Honestly, if one is basing this entirely on career outcomes...really not much of a decision here.

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Vanderbilt is still ranked 13 in this list which measures career outcomes, I recommend Vanderbilt over Cornell or Brown. Plus a better college experience doesn't hurt.

Vanderbilt only shows up on 1 of 9 lists of WSJ highest-paying jobs, while every Ivy school shows up on every list.

On payscale which measures average overall graduate salaries, Vanderbilt is #68, while the lowest-rated Ivy from payscale is Cornell at #39.

Honestly, if one is basing this entirely on career outcomes...really not much of a decision here.

If one looks up actual career center data, Vanderbilt has equal if not better outcomes. Last update stated that graduates earn an average starting salary of $85,000 across all majors, which is very respectable.

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Anonymous wrote:Good luck! Vanderbilt accepted about 22% ED1 this year. Most likely situation is your kid doesn’t get into Vanderbilt so you worrying it’s not good enough is pretty presumptuous of you.

Of course its a great school. It’s been ranked in the top 20 universities in the US for 15+ years now.

We just went through all this. The Early Decision acceptance rate was 15 percent this year. The Regular Decision acceptance rate was 3.7 percent.

That’s ED1 and ED2 combined…
At Vanderbilt, there is basically no bump for ED2. Ed 1 has a much higher acceptance rate (the 22% listed earlier)….when blended with ED2, it brings it back down…..

Almost everyone from our private who applied ED2 to Vanderbilt, was deferred or waitlisted (I forget which).

I think ED2 at schools like Vanderbilt is specifically designed to pick up the top students who didn’t get into Stanford and Harvard and similar during the first round. It doesn’t seem to give an edge to anyone else.

this is the strategy for every school that offers ED2 - pick up the rejects from the ED1 round at better schools..

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.wsj.com/rankings/college-rankings/best-colleges-2024?mod=ig_collegerankings2024


Vanderbilt is still ranked 13 in this list which measures career outcomes, I recommend Vanderbilt over Cornell or Brown. Plus a better college experience doesn't hurt.

Vanderbilt only shows up on 1 of 9 lists of WSJ highest-paying jobs, while every Ivy school shows up on every list.

On payscale which measures average overall graduate salaries, Vanderbilt is #68, while the lowest-rated Ivy from payscale is Cornell at #39.

Honestly, if one is basing this entirely on career outcomes...really not much of a decision here.

If one looks up actual career center data, Vanderbilt has equal if not better outcomes. Last update stated that graduates earn an average starting salary of $85,000 across all majors, which is very respectable.

Yeah, that is what payscale shows and also measures outcomes after 10 years...don't understand your point. It still ranks #68 overall.

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Anonymous wrote:Good luck! Vanderbilt accepted about 22% ED1 this year. Most likely situation is your kid doesn’t get into Vanderbilt so you worrying it’s not good enough is pretty presumptuous of you.

Of course its a great school. It’s been ranked in the top 20 universities in the US for 15+ years now.

We just went through all this. The Early Decision acceptance rate was 15 percent this year. The Regular Decision acceptance rate was 3.7 percent.

That’s ED1 and ED2 combined…
At Vanderbilt, there is basically no bump for ED2. Ed 1 has a much higher acceptance rate (the 22% listed earlier)….when blended with ED2, it brings it back down…..

Almost everyone from our private who applied ED2 to Vanderbilt, was deferred or waitlisted (I forget which).

I think ED2 at schools like Vanderbilt is specifically designed to pick up the top students who didn’t get into Stanford and Harvard and similar during the first round. It doesn’t seem to give an edge to anyone else.

this is the strategy for every school that offers ED2 - pick up the rejects from the ED1 round at better schools..

Who picks up the non-HYPSM rejects? Where do Vandy ED rejects ED2 to?

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I personally find it hilarious when there is squabbling over the difference of schools in the T25. Can the academics really be that different?

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Anonymous wrote:Good luck! Vanderbilt accepted about 22% ED1 this year. Most likely situation is your kid doesn’t get into Vanderbilt so you worrying it’s not good enough is pretty presumptuous of you.

Of course its a great school. It’s been ranked in the top 20 universities in the US for 15+ years now.

We just went through all this. The Early Decision acceptance rate was 15 percent this year. The Regular Decision acceptance rate was 3.7 percent.

That’s ED1 and ED2 combined…
At Vanderbilt, there is basically no bump for ED2. Ed 1 has a much higher acceptance rate (the 22% listed earlier)….when blended with ED2, it brings it back down…..

Almost everyone from our private who applied ED2 to Vanderbilt, was deferred or waitlisted (I forget which).

I think ED2 at schools like Vanderbilt is specifically designed to pick up the top students who didn’t get into Stanford and Harvard and similar during the first round. It doesn’t seem to give an edge to anyone else.

this is the strategy for every school that offers ED2 - pick up the rejects from the ED1 round at better schools..

Who picks up the non-HYPSM rejects? Where do Vandy ED rejects ED2 to?

Vandy rejects roll the dice in RD to 15+ schools. Very few ED2 at least from our circle.

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Anonymous wrote:DC wants ED1 to Vandy next year (FCPS). How is the school like, I know it is apparently great for Quality of Life, but how does it compare to an Ivy League school? I want them to go to an Ivy like Cornell or Brown I believe that they are more well known and esteemed, and because I feel like Vandy is like a Wake Forest or Tulane. It feels very overrated, it feels like a southern NEU. Am I wrong? I feel like they can get into an Ivy, I think it would be a waste to go there over an Ivy.

It depends what you mean by “similar to an ivy”. If you mean 75% of undergraduates are in the 1500 and up group(pre-TO) , almost all stem kids took BC calc or multivariable calc in HS, large group of premed gunners, large group of finance bros, focus on liberal arts education even for stem majors, competitive clubs, good med/law/internship placements then yes it is very similar to ivy/T10. Vanderbilt is an excellent well respected school and has been for decades. Who knows why it is getting hate here.
Wake has a slightly less high-testing competitive student body but has the seminar/small classes, good placement and culture of working hard on classes—it is like William&Mary but more sporty. Definitely academic kids at both but not T10/ivy intensity because the majority are not former HS superstars/vals or sals all competing . Tulane is several notches down and is not going to provide anything close to wake or W&M level peer group, let alone Vanderbilt.

If you look at the WSJ analysis of graduates earning the highest salaries in 9 different fields, Vanderbilt only makes one of the nine lists, yet every Ivy league school makes the list for every single profession. Isn't that a more relevant comparison?

I would note, Wake, Tulane and NEU don't make any of the lists.

W&M actually does very well and makes 6 of the 9 lists.

This is inaccurate. William and Mary barely makes the lists of top 20 Public colleges, and is behind schools such as University of Washington and Rutgers. It would not rank at all on the top 20 private college list, which is dominated by the Ivies.

Rutgers is only ranked in 3 lists and is behind W&M in 2. W&M is on 6 lists. Washington does well as do California schools (UCs, Cal State). Cost of living may factor.

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Anonymous wrote:DC wants ED1 to Vandy next year (FCPS). How is the school like, I know it is apparently great for Quality of Life, but how does it compare to an Ivy League school? I want them to go to an Ivy like Cornell or Brown I believe that they are more well known and esteemed, and because I feel like Vandy is like a Wake Forest or Tulane. It feels very overrated, it feels like a southern NEU. Am I wrong? I feel like they can get into an Ivy, I think it would be a waste to go there over an Ivy.

It depends what you mean by “similar to an ivy”. If you mean 75% of undergraduates are in the 1500 and up group(pre-TO) , almost all stem kids took BC calc or multivariable calc in HS, large group of premed gunners, large group of finance bros, focus on liberal arts education even for stem majors, competitive clubs, good med/law/internship placements then yes it is very similar to ivy/T10. Vanderbilt is an excellent well respected school and has been for decades. Who knows why it is getting hate here.
Wake has a slightly less high-testing competitive student body but has the seminar/small classes, good placement and culture of working hard on classes—it is like William&Mary but more sporty. Definitely academic kids at both but not T10/ivy intensity because the majority are not former HS superstars/vals or sals all competing . Tulane is several notches down and is not going to provide anything close to wake or W&M level peer group, let alone Vanderbilt.

If you look at the WSJ analysis of graduates earning the highest salaries in 9 different fields, Vanderbilt only makes one of the nine lists, yet every Ivy league school makes the list for every single profession. Isn't that a more relevant comparison?

I would note, Wake, Tulane and NEU don't make any of the lists.

W&M actually does very well and makes 6 of the 9 lists.

This is inaccurate. William and Mary barely makes the lists of top 20 Public colleges, and is behind schools such as University of Washington and Rutgers. It would not rank at all on the top 20 private college list, which is dominated by the Ivies.

Rutgers is only ranked in 3 lists and is behind W&M in 2. W&M is on 6 lists. Washington does well as do California schools (UCs, Cal State). Cost of living may factor.

But it isn’t even in the top 100 when public and private schools are combined,

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC wants ED1 to Vandy next year (FCPS). How is the school like, I know it is apparently great for Quality of Life, but how does it compare to an Ivy League school? I want them to go to an Ivy like Cornell or Brown I believe that they are more well known and esteemed, and because I feel like Vandy is like a Wake Forest or Tulane. It feels very overrated, it feels like a southern NEU. Am I wrong? I feel like they can get into an Ivy, I think it would be a waste to go there over an Ivy.

It depends what you mean by “similar to an ivy”. If you mean 75% of undergraduates are in the 1500 and up group(pre-TO) , almost all stem kids took BC calc or multivariable calc in HS, large group of premed gunners, large group of finance bros, focus on liberal arts education even for stem majors, competitive clubs, good med/law/internship placements then yes it is very similar to ivy/T10. Vanderbilt is an excellent well respected school and has been for decades. Who knows why it is getting hate here.
Wake has a slightly less high-testing competitive student body but has the seminar/small classes, good placement and culture of working hard on classes—it is like William&Mary but more sporty. Definitely academic kids at both but not T10/ivy intensity because the majority are not former HS superstars/vals or sals all competing . Tulane is several notches down and is not going to provide anything close to wake or W&M level peer group, let alone Vanderbilt.

If you look at the WSJ analysis of graduates earning the highest salaries in 9 different fields, Vanderbilt only makes one of the nine lists, yet every Ivy league school makes the list for every single profession. Isn't that a more relevant comparison?

I would note, Wake, Tulane and NEU don't make any of the lists.

W&M actually does very well and makes 6 of the 9 lists.

This is inaccurate. William and Mary barely makes the lists of top 20 Public colleges, and is behind schools such as University of Washington and Rutgers. It would not rank at all on the top 20 private college list, which is dominated by the Ivies.

Rutgers is only ranked in 3 lists and is behind W&M in 2. W&M is on 6 lists. Washington does well as do California schools (UCs, Cal State). Cost of living may factor.

But it isn’t even in the top 100 when public and private schools are combined,

We don’t know that since WSJ only shows top 20 private and top 20 public.

The payscale shows the overall median for all grads…but that median is way below ($40-$50k in some instances) what the WSJ is showing for median salaries for these 9 areas.

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Anonymous wrote:DC wants ED1 to Vandy next year (FCPS). How is the school like, I know it is apparently great for Quality of Life, but how does it compare to an Ivy League school? I want them to go to an Ivy like Cornell or Brown I believe that they are more well known and esteemed, and because I feel like Vandy is like a Wake Forest or Tulane. It feels very overrated, it feels like a southern NEU. Am I wrong? I feel like they can get into an Ivy, I think it would be a waste to go there over an Ivy.

It depends what you mean by “similar to an ivy”. If you mean 75% of undergraduates are in the 1500 and up group(pre-TO) , almost all stem kids took BC calc or multivariable calc in HS, large group of premed gunners, large group of finance bros, focus on liberal arts education even for stem majors, competitive clubs, good med/law/internship placements then yes it is very similar to ivy/T10. Vanderbilt is an excellent well respected school and has been for decades. Who knows why it is getting hate here.
Wake has a slightly less high-testing competitive student body but has the seminar/small classes, good placement and culture of working hard on classes—it is like William&Mary but more sporty. Definitely academic kids at both but not T10/ivy intensity because the majority are not former HS superstars/vals or sals all competing . Tulane is several notches down and is not going to provide anything close to wake or W&M level peer group, let alone Vanderbilt.

If you look at the WSJ analysis of graduates earning the highest salaries in 9 different fields, Vanderbilt only makes one of the nine lists, yet every Ivy league school makes the list for every single profession. Isn't that a more relevant comparison?

I would note, Wake, Tulane and NEU don't make any of the lists.

W&M actually does very well and makes 6 of the 9 lists.

This is inaccurate. William and Mary barely makes the lists of top 20 Public colleges, and is behind schools such as University of Washington and Rutgers. It would not rank at all on the top 20 private college list, which is dominated by the Ivies.

Rutgers is only ranked in 3 lists and is behind W&M in 2. W&M is on 6 lists. Washington does well as do California schools (UCs, Cal State). Cost of living may factor.

But it isn’t even in the top 100 when public and private schools are combined,

We don’t know that since WSJ only shows top 20 private and top 20 public.

The payscale shows the overall median for all grads…but that median is way below ($40-$50k in some instances) what the WSJ is showing for median salaries for these 9 areas.

Because the wsj is picking more lucrative professions, a school wide median is the more relevant number and William and Mary is not in top 100. They also would not be in the top 20 private school list.

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Anonymous wrote:DC wants ED1 to Vandy next year (FCPS). How is the school like, I know it is apparently great for Quality of Life, but how does it compare to an Ivy League school? I want them to go to an Ivy like Cornell or Brown I believe that they are more well known and esteemed, and because I feel like Vandy is like a Wake Forest or Tulane. It feels very overrated, it feels like a southern NEU. Am I wrong? I feel like they can get into an Ivy, I think it would be a waste to go there over an Ivy.

It depends what you mean by “similar to an ivy”. If you mean 75% of undergraduates are in the 1500 and up group(pre-TO) , almost all stem kids took BC calc or multivariable calc in HS, large group of premed gunners, large group of finance bros, focus on liberal arts education even for stem majors, competitive clubs, good med/law/internship placements then yes it is very similar to ivy/T10. Vanderbilt is an excellent well respected school and has been for decades. Who knows why it is getting hate here.
Wake has a slightly less high-testing competitive student body but has the seminar/small classes, good placement and culture of working hard on classes—it is like William&Mary but more sporty. Definitely academic kids at both but not T10/ivy intensity because the majority are not former HS superstars/vals or sals all competing . Tulane is several notches down and is not going to provide anything close to wake or W&M level peer group, let alone Vanderbilt.

If you look at the WSJ analysis of graduates earning the highest salaries in 9 different fields, Vanderbilt only makes one of the nine lists, yet every Ivy league school makes the list for every single profession. Isn't that a more relevant comparison?

I would note, Wake, Tulane and NEU don't make any of the lists.

W&M actually does very well and makes 6 of the 9 lists.

This is inaccurate. William and Mary barely makes the lists of top 20 Public colleges, and is behind schools such as University of Washington and Rutgers. It would not rank at all on the top 20 private college list, which is dominated by the Ivies.

Rutgers is only ranked in 3 lists and is behind W&M in 2. W&M is on 6 lists. Washington does well as do California schools (UCs, Cal State). Cost of living may factor.

But it isn’t even in the top 100 when public and private schools are combined,

We don’t know that since WSJ only shows top 20 private and top 20 public.

The payscale shows the overall median for all grads…but that median is way below ($40-$50k in some instances) what the WSJ is showing for median salaries for these 9 areas.

Because the wsj is picking more lucrative professions, a school wide median is the more relevant number and William and Mary is not in top 100. They also would not be in the top 20 private school list.

Ok…but you’re mixing apples and oranges. The PP referenced the WSJ list not median across the school.

None of the schools mentioned in this thread ranked well on Payscale (Vanderbilt, Wake, W&M or Tulane).

I think the real moral is go to one of the 67 schools that rank better.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC wants ED1 to Vandy next year (FCPS). How is the school like, I know it is apparently great for Quality of Life, but how does it compare to an Ivy League school? I want them to go to an Ivy like Cornell or Brown I believe that they are more well known and esteemed, and because I feel like Vandy is like a Wake Forest or Tulane. It feels very overrated, it feels like a southern NEU. Am I wrong? I feel like they can get into an Ivy, I think it would be a waste to go there over an Ivy.

It depends what you mean by “similar to an ivy”. If you mean 75% of undergraduates are in the 1500 and up group(pre-TO) , almost all stem kids took BC calc or multivariable calc in HS, large group of premed gunners, large group of finance bros, focus on liberal arts education even for stem majors, competitive clubs, good med/law/internship placements then yes it is very similar to ivy/T10. Vanderbilt is an excellent well respected school and has been for decades. Who knows why it is getting hate here.
Wake has a slightly less high-testing competitive student body but has the seminar/small classes, good placement and culture of working hard on classes—it is like William&Mary but more sporty. Definitely academic kids at both but not T10/ivy intensity because the majority are not former HS superstars/vals or sals all competing . Tulane is several notches down and is not going to provide anything close to wake or W&M level peer group, let alone Vanderbilt.

If you look at the WSJ analysis of graduates earning the highest salaries in 9 different fields, Vanderbilt only makes one of the nine lists, yet every Ivy league school makes the list for every single profession. Isn't that a more relevant comparison?

I would note, Wake, Tulane and NEU don't make any of the lists.

W&M actually does very well and makes 6 of the 9 lists.

This is inaccurate. William and Mary barely makes the lists of top 20 Public colleges, and is behind schools such as University of Washington and Rutgers. It would not rank at all on the top 20 private college list, which is dominated by the Ivies.

Rutgers is only ranked in 3 lists and is behind W&M in 2. W&M is on 6 lists. Washington does well as do California schools (UCs, Cal State). Cost of living may factor.

But it isn’t even in the top 100 when public and private schools are combined,

We don’t know that since WSJ only shows top 20 private and top 20 public.

The payscale shows the overall median for all grads…but that median is way below ($40-$50k in some instances) what the WSJ is showing for median salaries for these 9 areas.

Because the wsj is picking more lucrative professions, a school wide median is the more relevant number and William and Mary is not in top 100. They also would not be in the top 20 private school list.

Would any public school be?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC wants ED1 to Vandy next year (FCPS). How is the school like, I know it is apparently great for Quality of Life, but how does it compare to an Ivy League school? I want them to go to an Ivy like Cornell or Brown I believe that they are more well known and esteemed, and because I feel like Vandy is like a Wake Forest or Tulane. It feels very overrated, it feels like a southern NEU. Am I wrong? I feel like they can get into an Ivy, I think it would be a waste to go there over an Ivy.

It depends what you mean by “similar to an ivy”. If you mean 75% of undergraduates are in the 1500 and up group(pre-TO) , almost all stem kids took BC calc or multivariable calc in HS, large group of premed gunners, large group of finance bros, focus on liberal arts education even for stem majors, competitive clubs, good med/law/internship placements then yes it is very similar to ivy/T10. Vanderbilt is an excellent well respected school and has been for decades. Who knows why it is getting hate here.
Wake has a slightly less high-testing competitive student body but has the seminar/small classes, good placement and culture of working hard on classes—it is like William&Mary but more sporty. Definitely academic kids at both but not T10/ivy intensity because the majority are not former HS superstars/vals or sals all competing . Tulane is several notches down and is not going to provide anything close to wake or W&M level peer group, let alone Vanderbilt.

If you look at the WSJ analysis of graduates earning the highest salaries in 9 different fields, Vanderbilt only makes one of the nine lists, yet every Ivy league school makes the list for every single profession. Isn't that a more relevant comparison?

I would note, Wake, Tulane and NEU don't make any of the lists.

W&M actually does very well and makes 6 of the 9 lists.

This is inaccurate. William and Mary barely makes the lists of top 20 Public colleges, and is behind schools such as University of Washington and Rutgers. It would not rank at all on the top 20 private college list, which is dominated by the Ivies.

Rutgers is only ranked in 3 lists and is behind W&M in 2. W&M is on 6 lists. Washington does well as do California schools (UCs, Cal State). Cost of living may factor.

But it isn’t even in the top 100 when public and private schools are combined,

We don’t know that since WSJ only shows top 20 private and top 20 public.

The payscale shows the overall median for all grads…but that median is way below ($40-$50k in some instances) what the WSJ is showing for median salaries for these 9 areas.

Because the wsj is picking more lucrative professions, a school wide median is the more relevant number and William and Mary is not in top 100. They also would not be in the top 20 private school list.

Ok…but you’re mixing apples and oranges. The PP referenced the WSJ list not median across the school.

None of the schools mentioned in this thread ranked well on Payscale (Vanderbilt, Wake, W&M or Tulane).

I think the real moral is go to one of the 67 schools that rank better.

Pay is highly correlated with majors and cost of living of the areas where graduates settle. Engineers make 2X the average college graduate pay through early part of career. But you have to have to study engineering to expect that.