Raised Catholic and unsure if/how to pass those traditions to my kids

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Catholic church does a lot of good. Why do people always focus only on the bad things that have happened in the church? There are no institutions that have not had bad things happen within the institution. Schools are experiencing a huge crisis with female teachers sexually abusing their students, but I don’t see people here saying they are taking their kids out of public schools because of sexual abuse within the schools. The federal government has basically turned their back on the huge and constant sexual abuse problems within the military. Every institution has problems like that. Children are more likely to be sexually abused by a family member than a priest or teacher.

Every thread here involving the Catholic church focuses exclusively on the problems of the church. I don’t think the church has handled the issue of sexual abuse well at all. They really messed up. They definitely hid the problem and refused to deal with it in a timely and open, honest manner. But there are also many, many positive things the church has done and continues to do.

If you are going to withdraw yourself and your kids from the Catholic church because of sexual abuse, are you going to withdraw yourself and your kids from every other institution in America and be consistent because every institution has the same problems and same issues with confronting the issues as the Catholic church did/does. -not a Catholic

The Catholic church is the only church suing to protect Pedophiles.

And your post is utter BS.

Most Pediofiles are church members, ie Priests, Pastors, Ministers, pick up a dad newspaper weekly in this country add police officers and religious privates to this list.

An epidemic of sexual abuse in schools
Shoddy investigations, quiet resignations, and a culture of secrecy have protected predators, not students.

A Business Insider investigation puts a spotlight on an epidemic of sexual abuse in high schools.
Thousands of documents show how predator teachers are repeatedly protected instead of students.
And there's little oversight on how school districts deal with offenders, my colleague reports.

https://www.businessinsider.com/teachers-predators-sexual-abuse-high-school-reporting-data-2023-12?amp

Do actual research yourself.

yup, public schools have an average of almost 29000 pedophile cases a YEAR. And if you aren't hearing about them it is because they are being covered up!
study at the US Dept of Ed https://www2.ed.gov/rschstat/research/pubs/misconductreview/report.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Catholic church does a lot of good. Why do people always focus only on the bad things that have happened in the church? There are no institutions that have not had bad things happen within the institution. Schools are experiencing a huge crisis with female teachers sexually abusing their students, but I don’t see people here saying they are taking their kids out of public schools because of sexual abuse within the schools. The federal government has basically turned their back on the huge and constant sexual abuse problems within the military. Every institution has problems like that. Children are more likely to be sexually abused by a family member than a priest or teacher.

Every thread here involving the Catholic church focuses exclusively on the problems of the church. I don’t think the church has handled the issue of sexual abuse well at all. They really messed up. They definitely hid the problem and refused to deal with it in a timely and open, honest manner. But there are also many, many positive things the church has done and continues to do.

If you are going to withdraw yourself and your kids from the Catholic church because of sexual abuse, are you going to withdraw yourself and your kids from every other institution in America and be consistent because every institution has the same problems and same issues with confronting the issues as the Catholic church did/does. -not a Catholic

The Catholic church is the only church suing to protect Pedophiles.

And your post is utter BS.

Most Pediofiles are church members, ie Priests, Pastors, Ministers, pick up a dad newspaper weekly in this country add police officers and religious privates to this list.

An epidemic of sexual abuse in schools
Shoddy investigations, quiet resignations, and a culture of secrecy have protected predators, not students.

A Business Insider investigation puts a spotlight on an epidemic of sexual abuse in high schools.
Thousands of documents show how predator teachers are repeatedly protected instead of students.
And there's little oversight on how school districts deal with offenders, my colleague reports.

https://www.businessinsider.com/teachers-predators-sexual-abuse-high-school-reporting-data-2023-12?amp

Do actual research yourself.

yup, public schools have an average of almost 29000 pedophile cases a YEAR. And if you aren't hearing about them it is because they are being covered up!
study at the US Dept of Ed https://www2.ed.gov/rschstat/research/pubs/misconductreview/report.pdf

Not even DC's top private schools are immune.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/27/politics/washington-national-cathedral-schools-sex-abuse-investigation/index.html
https://www.maryland-defense-attorneys.com/ex-teacher-at-sidwell-gets-5-years-on-probation-a-plea-bargain-s.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was raised Roman Catholic and am struggling with if/how I want to raise my future children when it comes to the church. I left the church halfway through college and my siblings and parents have all left as well. My parents (who went to catholic school with nuns as teachers, made us go to CCD, midnight mass, Easter vigil, give things up for Lent, etc.) are now very vocally critical of the church. I share all their concerns...but I still feel this nostalgia for the whole thing. I don't know how else to explain it.

It makes me sad to imagine my future kids not being baptized, lighting Advent candles, going to fish fries during Lent, having first holy communions. Being Catholic was just such a big part of my family culture and was for generations. It feels weird to just stop that. The only family traditions that my family of origin has are all related to Catholicism in some way. Without those things I feel like I won't have any traditions that tie me and my children to our ancestors.

I do go to mass by myself very occasionally just to feel close to my deceased grandparents who were devout. I always leave feeling very melancholy, like I'm an interloper who shouldn't be there and is disrespecting people who are there for the "right" reasons. I don't know if that would get better or worse if I brought my kids. My actual faith is probably best described as agnostic but with a love of rituals?

Does anyone have any advice? Similar experience?
Please know that I mean no disrespect to any practicing Catholics. I'm posting with genuine sadness and conflict in my heart.

As a practicing Catholic, I don't regard you as an interloper. If you feel drawn to attend Mass, I think it is a good thing.

My only other advice is maybe it would be helpful for you to work out this dichotomy you seem to be experiencing. I am not sure what might be helpful.... attending an Ignatian Retreat at Holy Trinity (they offer short retreats compatible with working schedules - one hour meetings with a spiritual guide over several weeks); talking to a parish priest?; attending a class, like an RCIA class?

[Anonymous]

We got through Confirmation then let the kids decide. The SCOTUS Catholics really left a bad taste.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Catholic church does a lot of good. Why do people always focus only on the bad things that have happened in the church? There are no institutions that have not had bad things happen within the institution. Schools are experiencing a huge crisis with female teachers sexually abusing their students, but I don’t see people here saying they are taking their kids out of public schools because of sexual abuse within the schools. The federal government has basically turned their back on the huge and constant sexual abuse problems within the military. Every institution has problems like that. Children are more likely to be sexually abused by a family member than a priest or teacher.

Every thread here involving the Catholic church focuses exclusively on the problems of the church. I don’t think the church has handled the issue of sexual abuse well at all. They really messed up. They definitely hid the problem and refused to deal with it in a timely and open, honest manner. But there are also many, many positive things the church has done and continues to do.

If you are going to withdraw yourself and your kids from the Catholic church because of sexual abuse, are you going to withdraw yourself and your kids from every other institution in America and be consistent because every institution has the same problems and same issues with confronting the issues as the Catholic church did/does. -not a Catholic

The Catholic church is the only church suing to protect Pedophiles.

And your post is utter BS.

Most Pediofiles are church members, ie Priests, Pastors, Ministers, pick up a dad newspaper weekly in this country add police officers and religious privates to this list.

An epidemic of sexual abuse in schools
Shoddy investigations, quiet resignations, and a culture of secrecy have protected predators, not students.

A Business Insider investigation puts a spotlight on an epidemic of sexual abuse in high schools.
Thousands of documents show how predator teachers are repeatedly protected instead of students.
And there's little oversight on how school districts deal with offenders, my colleague reports.

https://www.businessinsider.com/teachers-predators-sexual-abuse-high-school-reporting-data-2023-12?amp

Do actual research yourself.

yup, public schools have an average of almost 29000 pedophile cases a YEAR. And if you aren't hearing about them it is because they are being covered up!
study at the US Dept of Ed https://www2.ed.gov/rschstat/research/pubs/misconductreview/report.pdf

Not even DC's top private schools are immune.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/27/politics/washington-national-cathedral-schools-sex-abuse-investigation/index.html
https://www.maryland-defense-attorneys.com/ex-teacher-at-sidwell-gets-5-years-on-probation-a-plea-bargain-s.html

Lets see. In the cited private school cases, the schools generally fired the person quickly, and the teacher himself cooperated. A huge contrast with the cover up by the Catholic Bishops.

[Anonymous]

I would not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Catholic church does a lot of good. Why do people always focus only on the bad things that have happened in the church? There are no institutions that have not had bad things happen within the institution. Schools are experiencing a huge crisis with female teachers sexually abusing their students, but I don’t see people here saying they are taking their kids out of public schools because of sexual abuse within the schools. The federal government has basically turned their back on the huge and constant sexual abuse problems within the military. Every institution has problems like that. Children are more likely to be sexually abused by a family member than a priest or teacher.

Every thread here involving the Catholic church focuses exclusively on the problems of the church. I don’t think the church has handled the issue of sexual abuse well at all. They really messed up. They definitely hid the problem and refused to deal with it in a timely and open, honest manner. But there are also many, many positive things the church has done and continues to do.

If you are going to withdraw yourself and your kids from the Catholic church because of sexual abuse, are you going to withdraw yourself and your kids from every other institution in America and be consistent because every institution has the same problems and same issues with confronting the issues as the Catholic church did/does. -not a Catholic

The Catholic church is the only church suing to protect Pedophiles.

And your post is utter BS.

Most Pediofiles are church members, ie Priests, Pastors, Ministers, pick up a dad newspaper weekly in this country add police officers and religious privates to this list.

An epidemic of sexual abuse in schools
Shoddy investigations, quiet resignations, and a culture of secrecy have protected predators, not students.

A Business Insider investigation puts a spotlight on an epidemic of sexual abuse in high schools.
Thousands of documents show how predator teachers are repeatedly protected instead of students.
And there's little oversight on how school districts deal with offenders, my colleague reports.

https://www.businessinsider.com/teachers-predators-sexual-abuse-high-school-reporting-data-2023-12?amp

Do actual research yourself.

yup, public schools have an average of almost 29000 pedophile cases a YEAR. And if you aren't hearing about them it is because they are being covered up!
study at the US Dept of Ed https://www2.ed.gov/rschstat/research/pubs/misconductreview/report.pdf

Not even DC's top private schools are immune.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/27/politics/washington-national-cathedral-schools-sex-abuse-investigation/index.html
https://www.maryland-defense-attorneys.com/ex-teacher-at-sidwell-gets-5-years-on-probation-a-plea-bargain-s.html

Lets see. In the cited private school cases, the schools generally fired the person quickly, and the teacher himself cooperated. A huge contrast with the cover up by the Catholic Bishops.

Yep this

Catholic Church is still protecting its own. It's horrific and disgusting.

And to post stats trying to convince the world that the Catholic Church is a safe place for children when they still have lawsuits and appeals protecting crap over children you are sick in the head.

No stats of pedos of young children besides our oh so maga Baptist Southern Convention.