Surrogacy help

[Anonymous]

If op is a man, he need ms to shut the f up. Not much of a man to try to school women on a woman issue.

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Op never answered on why friends and family won’t do it. He feels that they should.

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Anonymous wrote:Lot of sad people trying to control women on here. Who are you to say a woman can't provide a service with her body if she wants? Wow, so much sexism -- kind of disgusting. OP here, btw.

Lots say it including women. Women are not for exploiting, sexist prick.

Op, you said you are a man. You have no say and you are disgusting to speak for women.

I am saying women should have the choice. You are taking away that choice. Which one of us is disgusting again?

Um, no, exploiting women is not a choice. Do you not know what exploiting is and how women are agree are being exploited? By people like you who spout that it is a choice. To feed your desperation and want.
You benefit while exploiting someone.

Wow, incredible sexism. Telling a woman they have no choice because they are being "exploited" whether or not they know it. I guess all women need to be taken care of and can't make their own decisions. Gross.

Yes, all women should not be exploited under the guise of having a “choice” that sexist men like you try to manipulate them into thinking so. Gross to you.

So in other words, you think women need to be taken care of and they can't decide for themselves if they are being exploited? Gotcha. That is pretty gross.

I am trying to envision a woman coming to you and saying: "I am a woman. I know what is best for me, and I know what I want to do. I am not being exploited, and frankly that is condescending. I choose to make money by giving an amazing gift to a family in need. Why won't you let me do that?" Wonder what you would say in that scenario, which undoubtedly exists quite frequently. I love picturing you saying: "You don't speak for women! I know what is best for you! You are being exploited no matter what you think!"

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Anonymous wrote:NP—OP, could you explain more about your statement that you exhausted your circle of family and friends in your search? Did you outright ask people? Or mention that you were thinking about exploring surrogacy, and no one expressed interest? If you asked people, how did you decide which people to ask? Just curious, thanks.

Sure, no problem. Just put it out there that we were exploring surrogacy. My wife asked her sisters directly, but obviously totally understand that they are not interested because they are older and have had several pregnancies. For others, definitely would not ask directly. Just let folks know our situation in case they had anyone in their network who was interested in surrogacy.

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Anonymous wrote:Lot of sad people trying to control women on here. Who are you to say a woman can't provide a service with her body if she wants? Wow, so much sexism -- kind of disgusting. OP here, btw.

Lots say it including women. Women are not for exploiting, sexist prick.

Op, you said you are a man. You have no say and you are disgusting to speak for women.

I am saying women should have the choice. You are taking away that choice. Which one of us is disgusting again?

Um, no, exploiting women is not a choice. Do you not know what exploiting is and how women are agree are being exploited? By people like you who spout that it is a choice. To feed your desperation and want.
You benefit while exploiting someone.

Wow, incredible sexism. Telling a woman they have no choice because they are being "exploited" whether or not they know it. I guess all women need to be taken care of and can't make their own decisions. Gross.

Yes, all women should not be exploited under the guise of having a “choice” that sexist men like you try to manipulate them into thinking so. Gross to you.

So in other words, you think women need to be taken care of and they can't decide for themselves if they are being exploited? Gotcha. That is pretty gross.

I am trying to envision a woman coming to you and saying: "I am a woman. I know what is best for me, and I know what I want to do. I am not being exploited, and frankly that is condescending. I choose to make money by giving an amazing gift to a family in need. Why won't you let me do that?" Wonder what you would say in that scenario, which undoubtedly exists quite frequently. I love picturing you saying: "You don't speak for women! I know what is best for you! You are being exploited no matter what you think!"

Np.
You need to sit this one out. You have already said you are not a woman. You don’t know when to shut up. This is not for you to attempt to school any woman on. Again, shut up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op never answered on why friends and family won’t do it. He feels that they should.

Such a bizarre statement. First, I did respond. Second, out of everything being said in this thread, where does this belief about being "entitled" come from? Doesn't even make sense. Does that mean everyone acts entitled for everything contract for? Are you entitled to your housing, your food, etc.? Just bizarre.

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Anonymous wrote:NP—OP, could you explain more about your statement that you exhausted your circle of family and friends in your search? Did you outright ask people? Or mention that you were thinking about exploring surrogacy, and no one expressed interest? If you asked people, how did you decide which people to ask? Just curious, thanks.

Sure, no problem. Just put it out there that we were exploring surrogacy. My wife asked her sisters directly, but obviously totally understand that they are not interested because they are older and have had several pregnancies. For others, definitely would not ask directly. Just let folks know our situation in case they had anyone in their network who was interested in surrogacy.

Would not ask them directly? Interesting, you are entitled to their wombs. Aren’t you? You speak so cavalier about women. Why not ask directly. You’re owed it and they must submit to you.

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Anonymous wrote:Op never answered on why friends and family won’t do it. He feels that they should.

Such a bizarre statement. First, I did respond. Second, out of everything being said in this thread, where does this belief about being "entitled" come from? Doesn't even make sense. Does that mean everyone acts entitled for everything contract for? Are you entitled to your housing, your food, etc.? Just bizarre.

You only just responded.

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Anonymous wrote:Lot of sad people trying to control women on here. Who are you to say a woman can't provide a service with her body if she wants? Wow, so much sexism -- kind of disgusting. OP here, btw.

Lots say it including women. Women are not for exploiting, sexist prick.

Op, you said you are a man. You have no say and you are disgusting to speak for women.

I am saying women should have the choice. You are taking away that choice. Which one of us is disgusting again?

Um, no, exploiting women is not a choice. Do you not know what exploiting is and how women are agree are being exploited? By people like you who spout that it is a choice. To feed your desperation and want.
You benefit while exploiting someone.

Wow, incredible sexism. Telling a woman they have no choice because they are being "exploited" whether or not they know it. I guess all women need to be taken care of and can't make their own decisions. Gross.

Yes, all women should not be exploited under the guise of having a “choice” that sexist men like you try to manipulate them into thinking so. Gross to you.

So in other words, you think women need to be taken care of and they can't decide for themselves if they are being exploited? Gotcha. That is pretty gross.

I am trying to envision a woman coming to you and saying: "I am a woman. I know what is best for me, and I know what I want to do. I am not being exploited, and frankly that is condescending. I choose to make money by giving an amazing gift to a family in need. Why won't you let me do that?" Wonder what you would say in that scenario, which undoubtedly exists quite frequently. I love picturing you saying: "You don't speak for women! I know what is best for you! You are being exploited no matter what you think!"

Np.
You need to sit this one out. You have already said you are not a woman. You don’t know when to shut up. This is not for you to attempt to school any woman on. Again, shut up.

At least you are consistent. "You can't speak for women!" "Women can't make their own choices!" "I know all women are being exploited no matter what they think!" "So just shut up!" Pretty clear sign when you are losing a debate and know it.

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Anonymous wrote:Lot of sad people trying to control women on here. Who are you to say a woman can't provide a service with her body if she wants? Wow, so much sexism -- kind of disgusting. OP here, btw.

Lots say it including women. Women are not for exploiting, sexist prick.

Op, you said you are a man. You have no say and you are disgusting to speak for women.

I am saying women should have the choice. You are taking away that choice. Which one of us is disgusting again?

Um, no, exploiting women is not a choice. Do you not know what exploiting is and how women are agree are being exploited? By people like you who spout that it is a choice. To feed your desperation and want.
You benefit while exploiting someone.

Wow, incredible sexism. Telling a woman they have no choice because they are being "exploited" whether or not they know it. I guess all women need to be taken care of and can't make their own decisions. Gross.

Yes, all women should not be exploited under the guise of having a “choice” that sexist men like you try to manipulate them into thinking so. Gross to you.

So in other words, you think women need to be taken care of and they can't decide for themselves if they are being exploited? Gotcha. That is pretty gross.

I am trying to envision a woman coming to you and saying: "I am a woman. I know what is best for me, and I know what I want to do. I am not being exploited, and frankly that is condescending. I choose to make money by giving an amazing gift to a family in need. Why won't you let me do that?" Wonder what you would say in that scenario, which undoubtedly exists quite frequently. I love picturing you saying: "You don't speak for women! I know what is best for you! You are being exploited no matter what you think!"

You’re twisting yourself into a pretzel with your manipulation and exploitation excuses.

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Anonymous wrote:Op never answered on why friends and family won’t do it. He feels that they should.

Such a bizarre statement. First, I did respond. Second, out of everything being said in this thread, where does this belief about being "entitled" come from? Doesn't even make sense. Does that mean everyone acts entitled for everything contract for? Are you entitled to your housing, your food, etc.? Just bizarre.

You only just responded.

I mean, I have to take things in order. Lots of responses here. Sounds like you feel entitled to me responding.

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Anonymous wrote:Lot of sad people trying to control women on here. Who are you to say a woman can't provide a service with her body if she wants? Wow, so much sexism -- kind of disgusting. OP here, btw.

Lots say it including women. Women are not for exploiting, sexist prick.

Op, you said you are a man. You have no say and you are disgusting to speak for women.

I am saying women should have the choice. You are taking away that choice. Which one of us is disgusting again?

Um, no, exploiting women is not a choice. Do you not know what exploiting is and how women are agree are being exploited? By people like you who spout that it is a choice. To feed your desperation and want.
You benefit while exploiting someone.

Wow, incredible sexism. Telling a woman they have no choice because they are being "exploited" whether or not they know it. I guess all women need to be taken care of and can't make their own decisions. Gross.

Yes, all women should not be exploited under the guise of having a “choice” that sexist men like you try to manipulate them into thinking so. Gross to you.

So in other words, you think women need to be taken care of and they can't decide for themselves if they are being exploited? Gotcha. That is pretty gross.

I am trying to envision a woman coming to you and saying: "I am a woman. I know what is best for me, and I know what I want to do. I am not being exploited, and frankly that is condescending. I choose to make money by giving an amazing gift to a family in need. Why won't you let me do that?" Wonder what you would say in that scenario, which undoubtedly exists quite frequently. I love picturing you saying: "You don't speak for women! I know what is best for you! You are being exploited no matter what you think!"

Np.
You need to sit this one out. You have already said you are not a woman. You don’t know when to shut up. This is not for you to attempt to school any woman on. Again, shut up.

At least you are consistent. "You can't speak for women!" "Women can't make their own choices!" "I know all women are being exploited no matter what they think!" "So just shut up!" Pretty clear sign when you are losing a debate and know it.

There is no debate. You have no say on any woman’s issue. Sexist prink.

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Anonymous wrote:Op never answered on why friends and family won’t do it. He feels that they should.

Such a bizarre statement. First, I did respond. Second, out of everything being said in this thread, where does this belief about being "entitled" come from? Doesn't even make sense. Does that mean everyone acts entitled for everything contract for? Are you entitled to your housing, your food, etc.? Just bizarre.

You only just responded.

I mean, I have to take things in order. Lots of responses here. Sounds like you feel entitled to me responding.

Not any more entitled than you feel over women’s wombs.

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Anonymous wrote:Op never answered on why friends and family won’t do it. He feels that they should.

Such a bizarre statement. First, I did respond. Second, out of everything being said in this thread, where does this belief about being "entitled" come from? Doesn't even make sense. Does that mean everyone acts entitled for everything contract for? Are you entitled to your housing, your food, etc.? Just bizarre.

You only just responded.

I mean, I have to take things in order. Lots of responses here. Sounds like you feel entitled to me responding.

So , you did only just respond.

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Anonymous wrote:Lot of sad people trying to control women on here. Who are you to say a woman can't provide a service with her body if she wants? Wow, so much sexism -- kind of disgusting. OP here, btw.

Lots say it including women. Women are not for exploiting, sexist prick.

Op, you said you are a man. You have no say and you are disgusting to speak for women.

I am saying women should have the choice. You are taking away that choice. Which one of us is disgusting again?

Um, no, exploiting women is not a choice. Do you not know what exploiting is and how women are agree are being exploited? By people like you who spout that it is a choice. To feed your desperation and want.
You benefit while exploiting someone.

Wow, incredible sexism. Telling a woman they have no choice because they are being "exploited" whether or not they know it. I guess all women need to be taken care of and can't make their own decisions. Gross.

Yes, all women should not be exploited under the guise of having a “choice” that sexist men like you try to manipulate them into thinking so. Gross to you.

So in other words, you think women need to be taken care of and they can't decide for themselves if they are being exploited? Gotcha. That is pretty gross.

I am trying to envision a woman coming to you and saying: "I am a woman. I know what is best for me, and I know what I want to do. I am not being exploited, and frankly that is condescending. I choose to make money by giving an amazing gift to a family in need. Why won't you let me do that?" Wonder what you would say in that scenario, which undoubtedly exists quite frequently. I love picturing you saying: "You don't speak for women! I know what is best for you! You are being exploited no matter what you think!"

You’re twisting yourself into a pretzel with your manipulation and exploitation excuses.

Avoiding the actual issue. Classic. "You are twisting yourself into a pretzel!" So what would you say if a woman said that to you? Because you know there are a lot who feel that way? Surely you don't speak for all women, right?