SAT Accommodations without prior 504

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My understanding when my DD went through thus was that the child needed to have had at least two years of accommodations in order to apply for extra time on the SAT -and even the she was turned down (and she had an IEP for two years!) So she went with the ACT which had given her extra time. But this was several years ago so perhaps times have changed
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This. plus SAT likes to refuse (did to my DS with an IEP at nova public and autism!) and make you appeal. The school said ACT is more accomodating and it was.
Anonymous
^^ same PP. also, OP, if you think your child might need accomodations in college (mine did) you must submit testing proof when asking for accomodations. GMU (after acceptance and DC talked about disability in her essay) even demanded that we get fresh testing (another 6k) because our DC's was more than three years old (norm in the industry). So you need to get that 504 or IEP and YES you are going to get pushback. public schools dont like to give out 504s and certainly not IEPs. you have to fight for it. please repost in the special needs subforum here. parents are very helpful there. btw you need fresh testing also if your kid takes the LSAT or GRE someday.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:DS has had, and used, accommodations, including extra time, since middle school and was denied extra time for the PSAT. Our school told us they’re denying everyone unless there are intellectual disabilities. The fact that he has an above-average IQ and decent grades (As, Bs and one C at a well-regarded private) apparently means he’s not disabled enough to qualify.


I am confused about paying for private. I see on DCUM so many people being denied the math placement they want, 504s and in general picking classes, why do people pay to be told NO?



The publics are governed by the IEP and 504 rules. The privates are not and often the school psychologist at the private has no idea how to write out the equivalent of a 504 or IEP. We took our private-generated one to an IEP specialist (lawyer) who said it was drafted all wrong and put too much of a burden on parents and child. They recommended we go public to get the necessary accomodations which is exactly what we did.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My understanding when my DD went through thus was that the child needed to have had at least two years of accommodations in order to apply for extra time on the SAT -and even the she was turned down (and she had an IEP for two years!) So she went with the ACT which had given her extra time. But this was several years ago so perhaps times have changed


Interesting. The rap used to be that it was harder to get accommodations for the ACT than the SAT.

OP, our son received a similar diagnosis halfway through 9th grade. He had been a strong student in the humanities and good enough in STEM, but started unraveling when he entered HS when memory wasn't enough for success. He attended an independent, so he had a "learning" plan, not an IEP/504, but that didn't seem to have any bearing on the ACT accommodations. Fortunately, he got it on the first submission. I know some folks were burned up by all these kids suddenly getting accommodations in HS, but inattentive ADHD often does show up till older, so shouldn't be surprising.

GL!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why is extra time always the go-to ask? My kid has ADHD and has been medicated since 9th grade. that was-life changing. the endless homework battles and procrastination and disorganization got about 90% better within a month. this kid went from getting A-/B+ grades at a challenging private to straight high As. he/she now finishes assessments with time to spare. Extra time would actually not change anything and he/she has classic ADHD (medication has a complete calming effect)


Or perhaps your DC is the outlier here and others with ADHD are not.

In instances like these, perhaps better to count your blessings than casting judgment on others on whom you have no idea about their challenges/successes.
Anonymous
My kid is a type I diabetic. I've heard it's a complete PITA to get accommodations even with a 504 in place, so, no, I don't think it would be likely at all.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

DS scored a 1500 on PSAT without accommodations this past fall - I wonder if that impacted the request. Our school counselors are perplexed by the denial.


Maybe, if your DS scored a 1500 on the PSAT without accommodations, he doesn't need it. It seems he's doing just fine if he's scoring 1500/1520 on the PSAT.


His anxiety is affecting him and causing him distress that he won’t do well on the SAT. I explained the denial and gave him the option to take the test without accommodations or pursue an appeal. He’s rather appeal now.

He also mentioned he felt rushed during the PSAT. We are requesting time and half and allowances for breaks. I don’t think it’s unreasonable given his diagnoses - he’s had executive functioning issues since age 3, all documented by developmental pediatricians.

I do believe he would do well on SAT even without accommodations but am willing to give it another go with an appeal.


Maybe you should get his anxiety under control before going the cheating on a test route.

Life can be high pressure at times, now is just as good a time to learn how to cope as any.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DS has had, and used, accommodations, including extra time, since middle school and was denied extra time for the PSAT. Our school told us they’re denying everyone unless there are intellectual disabilities. The fact that he has an above-average IQ and decent grades (As, Bs and one C at a well-regarded private) apparently means he’s not disabled enough to qualify.


I am confused about paying for private. I see on DCUM so many people being denied the math placement they want, 504s and in general picking classes, why do people pay to be told NO?



The publics are governed by the IEP and 504 rules. The privates are not and often the school psychologist at the private has no idea how to write out the equivalent of a 504 or IEP. We took our private-generated one to an IEP specialist (lawyer) who said it was drafted all wrong and put too much of a burden on parents and child. They recommended we go public to get the necessary accomodations which is exactly what we did.


If your child has special needs, like mine, the public school will receive funding for that child.
If you choose to enroll in private school, like we did, the federal funding stays at the public school. It does not follow the child.
The public school can create a service plan (ISP) for private school students, but they usually won't say, "your child would get speech therapy 3 times a week if they went here, so why don't you just bring them here 3 times a week and then drive them to their other school school late". In some areas, the public school will send a special educator to private schools (like a speech therapist or OT) but in this area it is not common practice.

The math placement thing is funny. In private schools, even though parents are the "client", they can leave if they don't like the answer. Making students meet a critieria for math placement helps keep standards high is good for the rigor of the curriculum.

It is true that parents may have to hire a tutor or a specialist to keep up in privates. There is more funding available in publics for differentiation. It is a personal choice for every family how to use their resources.
Anonymous
OP, here's an article to get you started. I don't know of anyone who got SAT or ACT acomodations without an IEP or 504 and the rule was the IEP/504 had to have been in place two years when applying. Perhaps that has changed. Even though my DS is autistic/ADHD/Anxiety disorder/slow processing and had an IEP at Langley public, he was denied and we had to appeal. Both SN kids did better on the ACT and we found the ACT to be more accomodating. Post this question on the special needs subforum here and you will get helpful responses. Good luck, but you need to get that 504/IEP stat. You will also need that when you apply for college accomodations. Same with LSAT which we are going through right now. You aren't helping your child by delaying this. Call today and start the paperwork with your district. It will take time and you will have to fight every step of the way. https://www.understood.org/en/articles/how-to-apply-for-sat-and-act-accommodations
Anonymous
^^ The reason for the two year rule was the perception that some students understood the value of getting 1 1/2 time or double time so the parents (it is alleged) would get them tested with "friendly testers and therapists who would sign off on ADHD even if the kid didn't have ADHD in order to get the IEP/504/plan before the testing would take place spring of junior year. With all of the uproar over URM and first generation admissions, you don't hear that as much but that's why there are "rules" in place to avoid students getting accomodations who shouldn't be receiving them.
Anonymous
My son was diagnosed as a junior with severe inattentive ADHD. Psychologist recommended accommodations for testing. SAT denied accommodations because his high school grades were too good. sigh.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

DS scored a 1500 on PSAT without accommodations this past fall - I wonder if that impacted the request. Our school counselors are perplexed by the denial.


Maybe, if your DS scored a 1500 on the PSAT without accommodations, he doesn't need it. It seems he's doing just fine if he's scoring 1500/1520 on the PSAT.


His anxiety is affecting him and causing him distress that he won’t do well on the SAT. I explained the denial and gave him the option to take the test without accommodations or pursue an appeal. He’s rather appeal now.

He also mentioned he felt rushed during the PSAT. We are requesting time and half and allowances for breaks. I don’t think it’s unreasonable given his diagnoses - he’s had executive functioning issues since age 3, all documented by developmental pediatricians.

I do believe he would do well on SAT even without accommodations but am willing to give it another go with an appeal.


Maybe you should get his anxiety under control before going the cheating on a test route.

Life can be high pressure at times, now is just as good a time to learn how to cope as any.


Aren’t you a peach? He has been in therapy for years and has a good care team in place but you just resort to victim blaming and falsely equating accommodations with cheating.
Anonymous
Your kid should take the SAT under the same conditions as everyone else. No one should receive an exception or an accommodation. That's why it's called a STANDARDIZED test.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Your kid should take the SAT under the same conditions as everyone else. No one should receive an exception or an accommodation. That's why it's called a STANDARDIZED test.


Yet both the SAT and ACT allow for accommodations - you’re just salty because you lack the understanding of how ADD,
Anxiety, and OCD among other conditions can impair a student.

A child who has these conditions is eligible for accommodations.

Have the day you deserve!
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