Did college turn your kids, especially daughters, into political radicals? If so, which college

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All mine have been through active shooter drills and one has had to manage an actual incident so let's just say they are pissed off about the proliferation of weapons everywhere.

This one is equal opportunity for males and females. Nothing "radical' about wanting to do something about fun violence on campus

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Anonymous wrote:All mine have been through active shooter drills and one has had to manage an actual incident so let's just say they are pissed off about the proliferation of weapons everywhere.

This one is equal opportunity for males and females. Nothing "radical' about wanting to do something about fun violence on campus

Gun* violence.

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to keep your DD conservative, you have to keep her home and stupid.

Education leads to more liberal/Democrat views, because the more you know the more you know Republicans are just craven, racist, self-serving hypocrites.

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000187-a908-dfb1-a5df-e90da92d0000&nname=playbook&nid=0000014f-1646-d88f-a1cf-5f46b7bd0000&nrid=00000157-e4e0-df2b-a977-fcfc15350000&nlid=630318

There’s a generalization.

DP, but it is kind of true. There are hundreds of thousands of kids from areas that are predominately white and Christian who emabrk on universities and colleges that are significantly more heterogenius than the communities they came from. They discover that black people aren't just dumb jocks, that Latino's aren't just migrant workers, that Asians aren't just nerdy STEM kids that women have brains, etc. They are also exposed to contrasting viewpoints in humanities courses, maybe that color in some gaps from their high school educations; they are exposed to profressors of varying backgrounds and experiences and college towns with likely more diverse food and cultural offerings than their hometowns.

So it is only likely that at a minimum, these students will at least be more sympathetic to a diverse viewpoint and perspective just as a part of growing up a little.

The thing I think you're not acknowledging is that there's something reductive and homogenizing happening at universities at the moment. I say this as a moderate, independent voter who is part of a university community. The lens through which an increasing number of the concepts in different disciplines is getting filtered does indeed teach that x people "are just" y role in society. Perspective-taking is a dying art, as opposing viewpoints are demonized. And students who don't fall into line (or find their ancestry puts them on the "wrong" side unless they publicly denounce their origins) get harassed.

When our generation went to college and studied the liberal arts (as we were all required to do to some extent whatever our majors), our horizons were broadened by the new experiences and contacts. To some extent, there are illiberal pressures in the opposite direction at the moment.

Well both of my kids are at what I would consider to be fairly moderate to moderate/left universities and I am not seeing anything close to what you are describing. The reactions both kids are having in this world is more against the radical Christian extremism being imposed by a minority of the leadership on to the majority of the populace, and they and their friends and school mates are pushing hard against it. They understand history and this moment in time in our country.

There is no radical Christian extremism. This is slur used by radical progressive extremists against their critics.

BS. The Texas Senate just passed a bill mandating the Ten Commandments, prayer and Bible study time in every public school classroom.

DP. I looked this up and as suspected, you are not being honest here. Do better. The bill just allows the Ten Commandments to be displayed in the classroom - no religious instruction is taking place. The "prayer and Bible" reading time, applies to ANY RELIGION and ANY RELIGIOUS TEXT (or none at all), and children are required to have parental permission to participate. Do better.

"Relating to a period of prayer and reading of the Bible or other religious text in public schools."
https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=88R&Bill=SB1396

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to keep your DD conservative, you have to keep her home and stupid.

Education leads to more liberal/Democrat views, because the more you know the more you know Republicans are just craven, racist, self-serving hypocrites.

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000187-a908-dfb1-a5df-e90da92d0000&nname=playbook&nid=0000014f-1646-d88f-a1cf-5f46b7bd0000&nrid=00000157-e4e0-df2b-a977-fcfc15350000&nlid=630318

There’s a generalization.

DP, but it is kind of true. There are hundreds of thousands of kids from areas that are predominately white and Christian who emabrk on universities and colleges that are significantly more heterogenius than the communities they came from. They discover that black people aren't just dumb jocks, that Latino's aren't just migrant workers, that Asians aren't just nerdy STEM kids that women have brains, etc. They are also exposed to contrasting viewpoints in humanities courses, maybe that color in some gaps from their high school educations; they are exposed to profressors of varying backgrounds and experiences and college towns with likely more diverse food and cultural offerings than their hometowns.

So it is only likely that at a minimum, these students will at least be more sympathetic to a diverse viewpoint and perspective just as a part of growing up a little.

The thing I think you're not acknowledging is that there's something reductive and homogenizing happening at universities at the moment. I say this as a moderate, independent voter who is part of a university community. The lens through which an increasing number of the concepts in different disciplines is getting filtered does indeed teach that x people "are just" y role in society. Perspective-taking is a dying art, as opposing viewpoints are demonized. And students who don't fall into line (or find their ancestry puts them on the "wrong" side unless they publicly denounce their origins) get harassed.

When our generation went to college and studied the liberal arts (as we were all required to do to some extent whatever our majors), our horizons were broadened by the new experiences and contacts. To some extent, there are illiberal pressures in the opposite direction at the moment.

Well both of my kids are at what I would consider to be fairly moderate to moderate/left universities and I am not seeing anything close to what you are describing. The reactions both kids are having in this world is more against the radical Christian extremism being imposed by a minority of the leadership on to the majority of the populace, and they and their friends and school mates are pushing hard against it. They understand history and this moment in time in our country.

There is no radical Christian extremism. This is slur used by radical progressive extremists against their critics.

BS. The Texas Senate just passed a bill mandating the Ten Commandments, prayer and Bible study time in every public school classroom.

DP. I looked this up and as suspected, you are not being honest here. Do better. The bill just allows the Ten Commandments to be displayed in the classroom - no religious instruction is taking place. The "prayer and Bible" reading time, applies to ANY RELIGION and ANY RELIGIOUS TEXT (or none at all), and children are required to have parental permission to participate. Do better.

"Relating to a period of prayer and reading of the Bible or other religious text in public schools."
https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=88R&Bill=SB1396

Displaying the Ten Commandments in a classroom doesn’t count as religious instruction?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to keep your DD conservative, you have to keep her home and stupid.

Education leads to more liberal/Democrat views, because the more you know the more you know Republicans are just craven, racist, self-serving hypocrites.

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000187-a908-dfb1-a5df-e90da92d0000&nname=playbook&nid=0000014f-1646-d88f-a1cf-5f46b7bd0000&nrid=00000157-e4e0-df2b-a977-fcfc15350000&nlid=630318

There’s a generalization.

DP, but it is kind of true. There are hundreds of thousands of kids from areas that are predominately white and Christian who emabrk on universities and colleges that are significantly more heterogenius than the communities they came from. They discover that black people aren't just dumb jocks, that Latino's aren't just migrant workers, that Asians aren't just nerdy STEM kids that women have brains, etc. They are also exposed to contrasting viewpoints in humanities courses, maybe that color in some gaps from their high school educations; they are exposed to profressors of varying backgrounds and experiences and college towns with likely more diverse food and cultural offerings than their hometowns.

So it is only likely that at a minimum, these students will at least be more sympathetic to a diverse viewpoint and perspective just as a part of growing up a little.

The thing I think you're not acknowledging is that there's something reductive and homogenizing happening at universities at the moment. I say this as a moderate, independent voter who is part of a university community. The lens through which an increasing number of the concepts in different disciplines is getting filtered does indeed teach that x people "are just" y role in society. Perspective-taking is a dying art, as opposing viewpoints are demonized. And students who don't fall into line (or find their ancestry puts them on the "wrong" side unless they publicly denounce their origins) get harassed.

When our generation went to college and studied the liberal arts (as we were all required to do to some extent whatever our majors), our horizons were broadened by the new experiences and contacts. To some extent, there are illiberal pressures in the opposite direction at the moment.

Well both of my kids are at what I would consider to be fairly moderate to moderate/left universities and I am not seeing anything close to what you are describing. The reactions both kids are having in this world is more against the radical Christian extremism being imposed by a minority of the leadership on to the majority of the populace, and they and their friends and school mates are pushing hard against it. They understand history and this moment in time in our country.

There is no radical Christian extremism. This is slur used by radical progressive extremists against their critics.

BS. The Texas Senate just passed a bill mandating the Ten Commandments, prayer and Bible study time in every public school classroom.

DP. I looked this up and as suspected, you are not being honest here. Do better. The bill just allows the Ten Commandments to be displayed in the classroom - no religious instruction is taking place. The "prayer and Bible" reading time, applies to ANY RELIGION and ANY RELIGIOUS TEXT (or none at all), and children are required to have parental permission to participate. Do better.

"Relating to a period of prayer and reading of the Bible or other religious text in public schools."
https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=88R&Bill=SB1396

Unless you are going to also allow for tenets of Islam, Hindi and other global religions, it seems camel/nose/tent-ish to allow this.

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to keep your DD conservative, you have to keep her home and stupid.

Education leads to more liberal/Democrat views, because the more you know the more you know Republicans are just craven, racist, self-serving hypocrites.

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000187-a908-dfb1-a5df-e90da92d0000&nname=playbook&nid=0000014f-1646-d88f-a1cf-5f46b7bd0000&nrid=00000157-e4e0-df2b-a977-fcfc15350000&nlid=630318

There’s a generalization.

DP, but it is kind of true. There are hundreds of thousands of kids from areas that are predominately white and Christian who emabrk on universities and colleges that are significantly more heterogenius than the communities they came from. They discover that black people aren't just dumb jocks, that Latino's aren't just migrant workers, that Asians aren't just nerdy STEM kids that women have brains, etc. They are also exposed to contrasting viewpoints in humanities courses, maybe that color in some gaps from their high school educations; they are exposed to profressors of varying backgrounds and experiences and college towns with likely more diverse food and cultural offerings than their hometowns.

So it is only likely that at a minimum, these students will at least be more sympathetic to a diverse viewpoint and perspective just as a part of growing up a little.

The thing I think you're not acknowledging is that there's something reductive and homogenizing happening at universities at the moment. I say this as a moderate, independent voter who is part of a university community. The lens through which an increasing number of the concepts in different disciplines is getting filtered does indeed teach that x people "are just" y role in society. Perspective-taking is a dying art, as opposing viewpoints are demonized. And students who don't fall into line (or find their ancestry puts them on the "wrong" side unless they publicly denounce their origins) get harassed.

When our generation went to college and studied the liberal arts (as we were all required to do to some extent whatever our majors), our horizons were broadened by the new experiences and contacts. To some extent, there are illiberal pressures in the opposite direction at the moment.

Well both of my kids are at what I would consider to be fairly moderate to moderate/left universities and I am not seeing anything close to what you are describing. The reactions both kids are having in this world is more against the radical Christian extremism being imposed by a minority of the leadership on to the majority of the populace, and they and their friends and school mates are pushing hard against it. They understand history and this moment in time in our country.

There is no radical Christian extremism. This is slur used by radical progressive extremists against their critics.

I think, when judges rule against abortion, thus imposing their fundamentalist religious views on to others, that is an extremism that needs to be called out. Because you are clearly Christian and pro-life, you don't see it that way. But to be clear, it is imposing religious and moral views that not everyone shares. If you don't want an abortion, don't get one, but neither you, nor anyone else has the right to dictate how I manage my body.

You call it a slur without considering anyone else's perspective. That is pretty closed minded, which is what colleges are there to help re-direct. At least see the world through other lenses than your own.

[Anonymous]

Republicans should not go to colleges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:O.M.G.

Seriously

They are going to be who they're going to be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not all universities are political activist environments. Go to a southern school or one in Texas and you’ll avoid a lot of woke activists.

You picked a bad example as the University of Texas is located in one of the most liberal and dynamic cities in the country. And, clearly, it seems that you have not been to any Southern universities for many decades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Republicans should not go to colleges.

Are you suggesting that they should just teach ?

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Anonymous wrote:Not all universities are political activist environments. Go to a southern school or one in Texas and you’ll avoid a lot of woke activists.

Tell me you know nothing about UT without telling me you know nothing about UT.

Or A&M. Oh lordy. The Poly Sci majors out of there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:so we can avoid? I’m not having my kids turned into that.

Reasonable concern. Interesting that many posters do not believe in the effectiveness of indoctrination. Happens at lots of schools--both liberal and conservative. Happens in many countries such as China, Russia, and in the Middle East. Probably happens at Disney training as well as at other businesses and corporations.

My impression is that OP wants his/her children to get an education, not be subject to indoctrination focused on extreme political, religious, or social views whether conservative or liberal.

I watched a national news report last night that shared survey results which showed that Generation Z workers/employees are being fired frequently because "they are too easily offended" and, therefore, too hard to manage, to train, and to generate productive work.

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to keep your DD conservative, you have to keep her home and stupid.

Education leads to more liberal/Democrat views, because the more you know the more you know Republicans are just craven, racist, self-serving hypocrites.

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000187-a908-dfb1-a5df-e90da92d0000&nname=playbook&nid=0000014f-1646-d88f-a1cf-5f46b7bd0000&nrid=00000157-e4e0-df2b-a977-fcfc15350000&nlid=630318

There’s a generalization.

DP, but it is kind of true. There are hundreds of thousands of kids from areas that are predominately white and Christian who emabrk on universities and colleges that are significantly more heterogenius than the communities they came from. They discover that black people aren't just dumb jocks, that Latino's aren't just migrant workers, that Asians aren't just nerdy STEM kids that women have brains, etc. They are also exposed to contrasting viewpoints in humanities courses, maybe that color in some gaps from their high school educations; they are exposed to profressors of varying backgrounds and experiences and college towns with likely more diverse food and cultural offerings than their hometowns.

So it is only likely that at a minimum, these students will at least be more sympathetic to a diverse viewpoint and perspective just as a part of growing up a little.

The thing I think you're not acknowledging is that there's something reductive and homogenizing happening at universities at the moment. I say this as a moderate, independent voter who is part of a university community. The lens through which an increasing number of the concepts in different disciplines is getting filtered does indeed teach that x people "are just" y role in society. Perspective-taking is a dying art, as opposing viewpoints are demonized. And students who don't fall into line (or find their ancestry puts them on the "wrong" side unless they publicly denounce their origins) get harassed.

When our generation went to college and studied the liberal arts (as we were all required to do to some extent whatever our majors), our horizons were broadened by the new experiences and contacts. To some extent, there are illiberal pressures in the opposite direction at the moment.

Well both of my kids are at what I would consider to be fairly moderate to moderate/left universities and I am not seeing anything close to what you are describing. The reactions both kids are having in this world is more against the radical Christian extremism being imposed by a minority of the leadership on to the majority of the populace, and they and their friends and school mates are pushing hard against it. They understand history and this moment in time in our country.[/quote
There is no radical Christian extremism. This is slur used by radical progressive extremists against their critics.

What rock have you been living under??

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to keep your DD conservative, you have to keep her home and stupid.

Education leads to more liberal/Democrat views, because the more you know the more you know Republicans are just craven, racist, self-serving hypocrites.

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000187-a908-dfb1-a5df-e90da92d0000&nname=playbook&nid=0000014f-1646-d88f-a1cf-5f46b7bd0000&nrid=00000157-e4e0-df2b-a977-fcfc15350000&nlid=630318

There’s a generalization.

DP, but it is kind of true. There are hundreds of thousands of kids from areas that are predominately white and Christian who emabrk on universities and colleges that are significantly more heterogenius than the communities they came from. They discover that black people aren't just dumb jocks, that Latino's aren't just migrant workers, that Asians aren't just nerdy STEM kids that women have brains, etc. They are also exposed to contrasting viewpoints in humanities courses, maybe that color in some gaps from their high school educations; they are exposed to profressors of varying backgrounds and experiences and college towns with likely more diverse food and cultural offerings than their hometowns.

So it is only likely that at a minimum, these students will at least be more sympathetic to a diverse viewpoint and perspective just as a part of growing up a little.

The thing I think you're not acknowledging is that there's something reductive and homogenizing happening at universities at the moment. I say this as a moderate, independent voter who is part of a university community. The lens through which an increasing number of the concepts in different disciplines is getting filtered does indeed teach that x people "are just" y role in society. Perspective-taking is a dying art, as opposing viewpoints are demonized. And students who don't fall into line (or find their ancestry puts them on the "wrong" side unless they publicly denounce their origins) get harassed.

When our generation went to college and studied the liberal arts (as we were all required to do to some extent whatever our majors), our horizons were broadened by the new experiences and contacts. To some extent, there are illiberal pressures in the opposite direction at the moment.

Well both of my kids are at what I would consider to be fairly moderate to moderate/left universities and I am not seeing anything close to what you are describing. The reactions both kids are having in this world is more against the radical Christian extremism being imposed by a minority of the leadership on to the majority of the populace, and they and their friends and school mates are pushing hard against it. They understand history and this moment in time in our country.

There is no radical Christian extremism. This is slur used by radical progressive extremists against their critics.

BS. The Texas Senate just passed a bill mandating the Ten Commandments, prayer and Bible study time in every public school classroom.

DP. I looked this up and as suspected, you are not being honest here. Do better. The bill just allows the Ten Commandments to be displayed in the classroom - no religious instruction is taking place. The "prayer and Bible" reading time, applies to ANY RELIGION and ANY RELIGIOUS TEXT (or none at all), and children are required to have parental permission to participate. Do better.

"Relating to a period of prayer and reading of the Bible or other religious text in public schools."
https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=88R&Bill=SB1396

Displaying the Ten Commandments in a classroom doesn’t count as religious instruction?

Nope. It is instilling values into our precious youth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:College is about being exposed to people and ideas outside the comfort of where you were raised and by whom you were raised. It's only natural that they may see and hear views that resonate with them in that setting. It should not be threatening, it's part of growing up.

Agree. Nevertheless, there are extremists who demand conformance and regurgitation rather than growth through independent thought.