Is climate change irreversible now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've been prepping for this eventuality for a while. I have friends who call me alarmist and say that the globe is warming much more slowly than I think, but you don't need to be a scientist or a psychic to see which way the (warmer, fiercer) wind is blowing.

Crazy some people still think we can adapt, when the Arctic is getting warmer and stormier and hundreds of houses get burned down (or flooded away) every year.

How are you prepping? Serious question

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do not believe we are on the downward edge of a precipice, sliding towards an inevitable fiery doom.

Self-preservation is very powerful, especially when faced head-on with ongoing climate disaster.

The fires in Colorado are piddling. What we're going to see in the next decade will be much, much worse. When climate change affects millions of Americans, the demand for action will be loud, and it will happen. It will be too late to save a lof of the planet, likely the coastal communities, but it will slow down, and perhaps the polar ice caps won't melt entirely.

I'm in my 50s, so I won't see this disaster in my lifetime, not the end of the world as predicted. But my children will have to deal with it, as will their children. I'm ashamed that my generation didn't see this coming and stop it, and I'm part of that problem. I own a gas-guzzling car, and have for years. I never recycled until about 10 years ago. I heat my house with oil. Not one of these things is good for the planet.

If we all pitch in and vote for politicians who will force the oil companies to stop producing oil, and start using renewable sources of energy only, that's a start. If we all demandn electric cars, stop driving so much, stop using so much plastic, that will make a small dent in this disaster.

But individual action isn't going to stop it. We need to stop the 80 or so global corporations, mostly oil companies, who are driving climate change. Stop. Them. Now. Give up our cars, give up our plastic and oil-based lifestyle. let go of it.

Not a single thing on the Titanic was made of plastic. Think about that. They had a nice lifestyle, those people, without a piece of plastic. We can give up plastic too if we start now.

A tiny minority had a nice lifestyle. The rest were like drowned rats in the bilge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've been prepping for this eventuality for a while. I have friends who call me alarmist and say that the globe is warming much more slowly than I think, but you don't need to be a scientist or a psychic to see which way the (warmer, fiercer) wind is blowing.

Crazy some people still think we can adapt, when the Arctic is getting warmer and stormier and hundreds of houses get burned down (or flooded away) every year.

How are you prepping? Serious question

Vasectomy. might sound funny to start with that but when it's just the missus, me and our parents to look after in a crisis, we can plan our resources better. I have stockpile of food, water, first aid, generators, gas masks, and other resources that I've been gathering for a few years. We have our bug out bags and separate vehicle ready, in case our area becomes a national disaster site.

[Anonymous]

There is zero evidence of significant issues due to warming temps. Zero evidence of any significant issues in the near term. Warming temps is an issue. But not right now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've been prepping for this eventuality for a while. I have friends who call me alarmist and say that the globe is warming much more slowly than I think, but you don't need to be a scientist or a psychic to see which way the (warmer, fiercer) wind is blowing.

Crazy some people still think we can adapt, when the Arctic is getting warmer and stormier and hundreds of houses get burned down (or flooded away) every year.

How are you prepping? Serious question

Vasectomy. might sound funny to start with that but when it's just the missus, me and our parents to look after in a crisis, we can plan our resources better. I have stockpile of food, water, first aid, generators, gas masks, and other resources that I've been gathering for a few years. We have our bug out bags and separate vehicle ready, in case our area becomes a national disaster site.

If it's just you, your spouse, and your parents, though, what's the point? You're not leaving anything to children, not a climate disaster, not anything.

Might as well live it up. Since your non-existent children will be fine either way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've been prepping for this eventuality for a while. I have friends who call me alarmist and say that the globe is warming much more slowly than I think, but you don't need to be a scientist or a psychic to see which way the (warmer, fiercer) wind is blowing.

Crazy some people still think we can adapt, when the Arctic is getting warmer and stormier and hundreds of houses get burned down (or flooded away) every year.

How are you prepping? Serious question

Vasectomy. might sound funny to start with that but when it's just the missus, me and our parents to look after in a crisis, we can plan our resources better. I have stockpile of food, water, first aid, generators, gas masks, and other resources that I've been gathering for a few years. We have our bug out bags and separate vehicle ready, in case our area becomes a national disaster site.

If it's just you, your spouse, and your parents, though, what's the point? You're not leaving anything to children, not a climate disaster, not anything.

Might as well live it up. Since your non-existent children will be fine either way.

+1. If I had no kids, I wouldn’t care about climate change at all.

[Anonymous]

Of course it is!!
The climate has changed since the firming of the earth, why would it stop now? When the sun cools down and supernovas it will burn up and then get super cold.

[Anonymous]

Human caused climate change is the problem and only changing human behavior can change us of the WORST impacts. It's always worth changing course.

I have kids, but even if I didn't I would still not want to be part of the most destructive wave of humanity to ever pass over this earth. I would want to vote for candidates who thought it was worth saving the earth. And also advocate for policies that would set us on the right path moving forward.

[Anonymous]

After seeing how the pandemic played out I am not feeling very optimistic. Politicians are still using vaccination as a wedge issue. And a pandemic is far more tangible and short term.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:After seeing how the pandemic played out I am not feeling very optimistic. Politicians are still using vaccination as a wedge issue. And a pandemic is far more tangible and short term.

The denial of science and acting like an idiot is a one-sided political policy, however. It’s an issue being worsened by exclusively one side in this country.

[Anonymous]

The current state of research says we are on a trend line for 2.0.-2.5 degrees C of warming. So definitely not great. But most of the terrible predictions about climate change are based on 8.5 degrees C of warming.

What we have I the 2-2.5C scenarios are not great, but still very manageable

[Anonymous]

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It is irreversible but can ALWAYS be mitigated. Please vote for politicians who will enforce legislation to mitigate climate change.

I think of it like living with cancer. There’s a guy, James Bond (not the character), who has lived decades with multiple myeloma. He will probably never be cured, but he keeps surviving until the next new treatment arrives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The current state of research says we are on a trend line for 2.0.-2.5 degrees C of warming. So definitely not great. But most of the terrible predictions about climate change are based on 8.5 degrees C of warming.

What we have I the 2-2.5C scenarios are not great, but still very manageable

RCP 8.5 includes approximately 5 degrees C of warming.

The "old" worst-case scenario was 3 degrees of warming - and at 2-2.5 degrees of warming, we're basically there. And we'll probably get to the "new" worst-case scenario too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Voting Democrat is futile. Have you see the Democratic party? It would be called conservative in any other country, and it's bloated and inert from corruption, complacency, and other bs. Democrats don't actually do anything significant, ever, to seriously stop climate change. They would never dream of annoying their rich buddies in the oil and gas industry.

I agree with the PP who said we need a mass revolution. A few neighborhoods coming together to build an eco-friendly community isn't going to cut it. The entire energy sector needs to be stopped.

Enough people need to gather the will to say, "I'm not buying gas anymore. I'm not buying into a ridiculous two-party political system, which guarantees that no change will ever happen. I'm not voting for Democrats or Republicans, I'm going to vote for a green party with socialist leanings. I'll join Anonymous and be an ethical hacker activist."

This is actually what needs to happen for real change to take place.

Hey, Green Party spoilers are here on this forum too? What fun! Guarantees the Koch and Russia funded GOP gets in power, stays there and does absolutely nothing. Yes, I have seen the Democratic Party. They’re actually trying. The Green Party? It gave us W and Trump by virtue of spoiling.

Vote Democratic.

Not happening. Corrupt. Stupid. Worthless Democommunists.