Top undergrad feeders for T14 Law, T25 Medical School, PhD programs, Silicon Valley and Wall Street

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My takeaway from these lists is that the "top" public universities, Vandy, Northwestern, and UChicago are quite overrated. And also, Northwestern alums control newsrooms where these rankings and their methodologies are tweaked. Nobody in real life thinks Northwestern undergrad is "elite".

they are private, all of them

[Anonymous]

Top Feeder Rankings (by total employed)
Rank (Total) Institution # Employed Top Employer (Total) Top Employer (Share)
Rank (Total) Institution # Employed Top Employer (Total) Top Employer (Share)
1 Carnegie Mellon University 1,224 Google Airbnb
2 University of California, Berkeley 1,003 Google Lyft
3 University of Southern California 964 Google LinkedIn
4 Georgia Institute of Technology 894 Microsoft HubSpot
5 University of Washington 752 Microsoft DocuSign
6 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 650 Google Twitter
7 Stanford University 634 Google Slack
8 University of Waterloo 610 Google Slack
9 University of California, San Diego 600 Google Lyft
10 University of California, Los Angeles 577 Google LinkedIn
11 University of Michigan 512 Google Lyft
12 Columbia University 507 Google Airbnb
13 Cornell University 491 Google Lyft
14 University of Texas at Austin 457 Google Apple
15 Northeastern University 381 Microsoft LinkedIn
16 Purdue University 369 Microsoft Salesforce
17 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 360 Google HubSpot
18 University of Calfornia, Irvine 328 Google LinkedIn
19 New York University 322 Google LinkedIn
20 University of Toronto 318 Google Twitter
21 University of Pennsylvania 306 Google Slack
22 San Jose State University 300 Google Apple
23 University of British Columbia 248 Microsoft Slack
24 Duke University 234 Microsoft Airbnb
25 University of Maryland 229 Microsoft Airbnb
26 University of California, Davis 215 Google Airbnb
27 Brown University 212 Google Twitter
28 Harvard University 199 Google Airbnb
29 University of Virginia 192 Microsoft Google
30 University of Wisconsin, Madison 186 Google Twitter

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Top Feeder TECH Rankings (by total employed)
Rank (Total) Institution # Employed Top Employer (Total) Top Employer (Share)
Rank (Total) Institution # Employed Top Employer (Total) Top Employer (Share)
1 Carnegie Mellon University 1,224 Google Airbnb
2 University of California, Berkeley 1,003 Google Lyft
3 University of Southern California 964 Google LinkedIn
4 Georgia Institute of Technology 894 Microsoft HubSpot
5 University of Washington 752 Microsoft DocuSign
6 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 650 Google Twitter
7 Stanford University 634 Google Slack
8 University of Waterloo 610 Google Slack
9 University of California, San Diego 600 Google Lyft
10 University of California, Los Angeles 577 Google LinkedIn
11 University of Michigan 512 Google Lyft
12 Columbia University 507 Google Airbnb
13 Cornell University 491 Google Lyft
14 University of Texas at Austin 457 Google Apple
15 Northeastern University 381 Microsoft LinkedIn
16 Purdue University 369 Microsoft Salesforce
17 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 360 Google HubSpot
18 University of Calfornia, Irvine 328 Google LinkedIn
19 New York University 322 Google LinkedIn
20 University of Toronto 318 Google Twitter
21 University of Pennsylvania 306 Google Slack
22 San Jose State University 300 Google Apple
23 University of British Columbia 248 Microsoft Slack
24 Duke University 234 Microsoft Airbnb
25 University of Maryland 229 Microsoft Airbnb
26 University of California, Davis 215 Google Airbnb
27 Brown University 212 Google Twitter
28 Harvard University 199 Google Airbnb
29 University of Virginia 192 Microsoft Google
30 University of Wisconsin, Madison 186 Google Twitter

[Anonymous]

Top Feeders to Tech and Silicon Valley

Updated July 2021

Many young coders, programmers, and designers dream of one day being welcomed into an elite Silicon Valley company where the future of the world’s technology is conceived and developed. In addition to being at the heart of American innovation, those who land jobs at prestigious tech firms enjoy high salaries and countless workplace amenities like, for example, Google’s famed free food, climbing walls, and lavish parties. In order to maximize your chances of personally enjoying these types of perks, you will want to consider undergraduate institutions that have direct pipelines to the premier companies within the technology sector.

To identify “top feeders” in the tech world, we relied on publicly available data from LinkedIn, a professional networking site featuring profiles of approximately 170 million workers across the United States. Specifically, we identified and analyzed the undergraduate backgrounds of more than 44,000 entry-level engineering and information technology employees across fifteen of the most reputable American tech companies, including Adobe, AirBnB, Apple, DocuSign, Github, Google, HubSpot, LinkedIn, Lyft, Microsoft, Netflix, NVIDIA, SalesForce, Slack, and Twitter . We then constructed two lists. The first list looks at the raw number of alumni employed by this select group. The second list looks at the top 30 producers when adjusted for undergraduate enrollment, which allows us to highlight schools that may be smaller in size, but that still send a significant number of graduates directly to these prestigious companies.

Finally, we identified two top employers for each institution. The first top employer is the tech company employing the most undergraduate alumni from a particular school. The second top employer is the tech company with the highest share of employees from that undergraduate school. For example, Carnegie Mellon's first top employer is Google, because more CMU (undergraduate) alumni work at Google than at any of the other ten tech companies. Carnegie Mellon's second top employer is LinkedIn because its graduates comprise a larger share of all employees at LinkedIn than they do at any other company in our analysis. If a school's second top employer and first top employer are the same, we indicate the tech company with the second highest share of employees instead. Measuring both total graduates employed and the institutional share of a company’s employees allows us to identify schools offering the best pipelines to smaller yet highly prestigious tech firms, such as LinkedIn and Adobe, which may draw heavily from one particular institution but wouldn't otherwise make an institution's list of top employers because of their relatively small size.
Top Feeder Rankings (by total employed)
Rank (Total) Institution # Employed Top Employer (Total) Top Employer (Share)
Rank (Total) Institution # Employed Top Employer (Total) Top Employer (Share)
1 Carnegie Mellon University 1,224 Google Airbnb
2 University of California, Berkeley 1,003 Google Lyft
3 University of Southern California 964 Google LinkedIn
4 Georgia Institute of Technology 894 Microsoft HubSpot
5 University of Washington 752 Microsoft DocuSign
6 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 650 Google Twitter
7 Stanford University 634 Google Slack
8 University of Waterloo 610 Google Slack
9 University of California, San Diego 600 Google Lyft
10 University of California, Los Angeles 577 Google LinkedIn
11 University of Michigan 512 Google Lyft
12 Columbia University 507 Google Airbnb
13 Cornell University 491 Google Lyft
14 University of Texas at Austin 457 Google Apple
15 Northeastern University 381 Microsoft LinkedIn
16 Purdue University 369 Microsoft Salesforce
17 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 360 Google HubSpot
18 University of Calfornia, Irvine 328 Google LinkedIn
19 New York University 322 Google LinkedIn
20 University of Toronto 318 Google Twitter
21 University of Pennsylvania 306 Google Slack
22 San Jose State University 300 Google Apple
23 University of British Columbia 248 Microsoft Slack
24 Duke University 234 Microsoft Airbnb
25 University of Maryland 229 Microsoft Airbnb
26 University of California, Davis 215 Google Airbnb
27 Brown University 212 Google Twitter
28 Harvard University 199 Google Airbnb
29 University of Virginia 192 Microsoft Google
30 University of Wisconsin, Madison 186 Google Twitter

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP doesn't understand how T14 law admission works, and accordingly, is confusing a lot of people.

So please tell us about your understanding of how T14 law admission works!

T14 law school admission is almost entirely LSAT and college GPA combined. Plus URM hook, if applicable.

If the median LSAT score is in the high 160s/low 170s for most of these schools, does the simple combination of LSAT and college GPA really provide enough of a differentiation? Just by the enrollment numbers, isn't is reasonable to think that it's at least easier to get into Yale Law from Yale and Chicago Law from Chicago? As people note, there are plenty of smart people going to plenty of colleges. It just seems that you would not see a consistent preference for the same few undergraduate institutions if this is all that is involved.

otherwise, you should definitely attend Yale or Harvard because the grade inflation is so awesome.

Grade inflation is pretty big everywhere, but yes, particularly at elite schools. Certainly there are other factors in admission, but these schools are significantly numbers driven due to rankings.

It's not just grade inflation, it's the sort of go-getter ambitious teens who sought out an elite college when they were 17 y/o also obsess over their GPA and are laser-focused on post-college goals. They realize how important GPA is for those goals, while the average college freshman really doesn't. The average college freshman doesn't sweat a B here and there or even a C. They're partying that first semester, letting loose and letting the GPA slack a bit. While the freshman go-getter is using test banks, obsessing over certain sections taught by certain professors, starting study groups with like-minded peers, things like that. Not just striving for not just a "good" GPA but a perfect GPA. Those sort of kids also exist at the state schools but nowhere near the % of each class is like that.

And let's be honest, all things being equal, elite law schools are giving the nod to the applicant from the more elite undergrad. Elitists are elitists, after all.

all that might be true, but the sheer number of students at the other schools should cancel out this effect. UT Austin alone is about 2/3 the size of all the Ivy League schools combined.

it seems that the correct statement is "not all things are equal and elite law schools give the nod to applicants from more elite undergrads."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP doesn't understand how T14 law admission works, and accordingly, is confusing a lot of people.

So please tell us about your understanding of how T14 law admission works!

T14 law school admission is almost entirely LSAT and college GPA combined. Plus URM hook, if applicable.

If the median LSAT score is in the high 160s/low 170s for most of these schools, does the simple combination of LSAT and college GPA really provide enough of a differentiation? Just by the enrollment numbers, isn't is reasonable to think that it's at least easier to get into Yale Law from Yale and Chicago Law from Chicago? As people note, there are plenty of smart people going to plenty of colleges. It just seems that you would not see a consistent preference for the same few undergraduate institutions if this is all that is involved.

otherwise, you should definitely attend Yale or Harvard because the grade inflation is so awesome.

Grade inflation is pretty big everywhere, but yes, particularly at elite schools. Certainly there are other factors in admission, but these schools are significantly numbers driven due to rankings.

It's not just grade inflation, it's the sort of go-getter ambitious teens who sought out an elite college when they were 17 y/o also obsess over their GPA and are laser-focused on post-college goals. They realize how important GPA is for those goals, while the average college freshman really doesn't. The average college freshman doesn't sweat a B here and there or even a C. They're partying that first semester, letting loose and letting the GPA slack a bit. While the freshman go-getter is using test banks, obsessing over certain sections taught by certain professors, starting study groups with like-minded peers, things like that. Not just striving for not just a "good" GPA but a perfect GPA. Those sort of kids also exist at the state schools but nowhere near the % of each class is like that.

And let's be honest, all things being equal, elite law schools are giving the nod to the applicant from the more elite undergrad. Elitists are elitists, after all.

all that might be true, but the sheer number of students at the other schools should cancel out this effect. UT Austin alone is about 2/3 the size of all the Ivy League schools combined.

it seems that the correct statement is "not all things are equal and elite law schools give the nod to applicants from more elite undergrads."

I think it largely tracks to the GPAs, LSATs, and number applying from each school. You can see from the link below that applicants from the "elite"{ schools are much more likely to have "elite" stats.

https://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/administrative/legal_education_and_admissions_to_the_bar/council_reports_and_resolutions/May2018CouncilOpenSession/18_may_2015_2017_top_240_feeder_schools_for_aba_applicants.authcheckdam.pdf

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My takeaway from these lists is that the "top" public universities, Vandy, Northwestern, and UChicago are quite overrated. And also, Northwestern alums control newsrooms where these rankings and their methodologies are tweaked. Nobody in real life thinks Northwestern undergrad is "elite".

Obnoxious much?

Oh, trust me, dear, you just pissed off the HYPSM prestige defense squad again!

+1. They are already upset at how HYPSM is not T5 in every ranking but rather went to schools like Duke, Caltech, JHU, Columbia, Harvey Mudd, Swarthmore, Penn, and Northwestern. Brace yourselves for a major sh*tstorm.

I’ve never seen the University of Chicago. I went to Northwestern for grad school and came away so angry that I sometime write “I hate you” on the prepaid donation envelopes and send the envelopes back, just to cost Northwestern the postage. And the anti-Chicago troll has me so annoyed that I start thinking of reasons Northwestern isn't so bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Columbia is underrated

Waiting for the Columbia bashers/HYPSM prestige defense squad to show up...

The squad is clearly afraid of real stats!

When you show them raw numbers, they clamor for stats adjusted to undergrad population/size. When even the adjusted numbers work against them, they just pack up and disappear

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My takeaway from these lists is that the "top" public universities, Vandy, Northwestern, and UChicago are quite overrated. And also, Northwestern alums control newsrooms where these rankings and their methodologies are tweaked. Nobody in real life thinks Northwestern undergrad is "elite".

Obnoxious much?

Don’t mind her, she’s the weirdo that hunts out threads that mention Northwestern even in passing and obsessively talks about the school (and is also a weird conspiracy theorist it seems, as well, if she really thinks there’s some secret cabal of Northwestern grads controlling “the media” to increase the school’s ranking, lmao). She’s a bit unhinged; don’t mind her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Top Feeder Rankings (by total employed)
Rank (Total) Institution # Employed Top Employer (Total) Top Employer (Share)
Rank (Total) Institution # Employed Top Employer (Total) Top Employer (Share)
1 Carnegie Mellon University 1,224 Google Airbnb
2 University of California, Berkeley 1,003 Google Lyft
3 University of Southern California 964 Google LinkedIn
4 Georgia Institute of Technology 894 Microsoft HubSpot
5 University of Washington 752 Microsoft DocuSign
6 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 650 Google Twitter
7 Stanford University 634 Google Slack
8 University of Waterloo 610 Google Slack
9 University of California, San Diego 600 Google Lyft
10 University of California, Los Angeles 577 Google LinkedIn
11 University of Michigan 512 Google Lyft
12 Columbia University 507 Google Airbnb
13 Cornell University 491 Google Lyft
14 University of Texas at Austin 457 Google Apple
15 Northeastern University 381 Microsoft LinkedIn
16 Purdue University 369 Microsoft Salesforce
17 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 360 Google HubSpot
18 University of Calfornia, Irvine 328 Google LinkedIn
19 New York University 322 Google LinkedIn
20 University of Toronto 318 Google Twitter
21 University of Pennsylvania 306 Google Slack
22 San Jose State University 300 Google Apple
23 University of British Columbia 248 Microsoft Slack
24 Duke University 234 Microsoft Airbnb
25 University of Maryland 229 Microsoft Airbnb
26 University of California, Davis 215 Google Airbnb
27 Brown University 212 Google Twitter
28 Harvard University 199 Google Airbnb
29 University of Virginia 192 Microsoft Google
30 University of Wisconsin, Madison 186 Google Twitter

This is a weird way of ranking schools. I bet University if Arkansas should tops the list by the number of employees by Walmart. Their greeters alone should number 100,000+.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP doesn't understand how T14 law admission works, and accordingly, is confusing a lot of people.

So please tell us about your understanding of how T14 law admission works!

T14 law school admission is almost entirely LSAT and college GPA combined. Plus URM hook, if applicable.

Chicago, Duke, Penn all have similar average LSAT and average GPAs but underperform in relation to ivies like Columbia, Dartmouth, and Brown, if you look at admission statistics at elite law schools like YLS and Stanford Law. The former also have a larger contingent of students applying to law schools than the latter.

School Percentage % vs Leader # Enrolled # Applied 3 Yr
Yale (90) 15.79% 100% 90 570
Harvard (54) 8.37% 53% 54 645
Princeton (31) 7.51% 48% 31 413
Stanford (22) 6.81% 43% 22 323
Columbia (34) 6.77% 43% 34 502
Dartmouth (21) 6.56% 42% 21 320
Brown (17) 4.43% 28% 17 384
Swarthmore (6) 3.77% 24% 6 159
Chicago (18) 3.76% 24% 18 479
Amherst (6) 3.51% 22% 6 171
Bowdoin (5) 3.14% 20% 5 159
JHU (7) 2.97% 19% 7 236
Penn (16) 2.47% 16% 16 647
Cornell (19) 2.40% 15% 19 792
Duke (10) 2.14% 14% 10 467
Gtown (13) 1.81% 11% 13 717
Tufts (5) 1.71% 11% 5 292
NW (8) 1.62% 10% 8 495
UConn (5) 1.16% 7% 5 432
UVA (7) 0.97% 6% 7 725
Berkeley (13) 0.86% 5% 13 1506
USC (8) 0.80% 5% 8 1006
NYU (5) 0.73% 5% 5 682
Michigan (8) 0.73% 5% 8 1098
UNC-CH (5) 0.57% 4% 5 871
UCLA (5) 0.26% 2% 5 1897

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Top Feeder Rankings (by total employed)
Rank (Total) Institution # Employed Top Employer (Total) Top Employer (Share)
Rank (Total) Institution # Employed Top Employer (Total) Top Employer (Share)
1 Carnegie Mellon University 1,224 Google Airbnb
2 University of California, Berkeley 1,003 Google Lyft
3 University of Southern California 964 Google LinkedIn
4 Georgia Institute of Technology 894 Microsoft HubSpot
5 University of Washington 752 Microsoft DocuSign
6 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 650 Google Twitter
7 Stanford University 634 Google Slack
8 University of Waterloo 610 Google Slack
9 University of California, San Diego 600 Google Lyft
10 University of California, Los Angeles 577 Google LinkedIn
11 University of Michigan 512 Google Lyft
12 Columbia University 507 Google Airbnb
13 Cornell University 491 Google Lyft
14 University of Texas at Austin 457 Google Apple
15 Northeastern University 381 Microsoft LinkedIn
16 Purdue University 369 Microsoft Salesforce
17 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 360 Google HubSpot
18 University of Calfornia, Irvine 328 Google LinkedIn
19 New York University 322 Google LinkedIn
20 University of Toronto 318 Google Twitter
21 University of Pennsylvania 306 Google Slack
22 San Jose State University 300 Google Apple
23 University of British Columbia 248 Microsoft Slack
24 Duke University 234 Microsoft Airbnb
25 University of Maryland 229 Microsoft Airbnb
26 University of California, Davis 215 Google Airbnb
27 Brown University 212 Google Twitter
28 Harvard University 199 Google Airbnb
29 University of Virginia 192 Microsoft Google
30 University of Wisconsin, Madison 186 Google Twitter

This is a weird way of ranking schools. I bet University if Arkansas should tops the list by the number of employees by Walmart. Their greeters alone should number 100,000+.

That’s why we look at tech companies and adjust them by undergrad enrollment, hon.

[Anonymous]

T25 medical school is not a thing. All US medical schools are great and extremely selective.

And the tech feeder list is pointless. It's obviously favoring all the engineering colleges, especially colleges located in California. Any kid with a computer science or electrical engineering degree, from any university, can easily get an offer in tech.

The only list that matters is one I think from NY Times which detailed Pell Grant % (lower the better) and HHI (higher the better).

The rich rule the world, in you're in proximity to smart rich kids from age 18 to 22 (and even better from age 5 to 22, of course) you'll do well in life.

[Anonymous]

Feeders for medicine and law are not a thing. Thread is misleading.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So. What.

My kid graduated from a college far, far below that list and is now at a tippy top grad program that rejected tons of people who went to colleges on that list.

It's not where you go to undergrad, it's how well you do there.

My neighbor went to CC, and ended up in grad school at Harvard. You never know.

So. What. To your post.