FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Anonymous wrote:If anyone is curious why the Navy ES island exists, I know the history. I grew up in the Tuckaway section of Franklin Farm, I started at Oak Hill ES and then got moved to Crossfield ES when it opened. The Nestlewood section of Franklin Farm now ironically being proposed to be moved to Oak Hill stayed at Oak Hill. About 3 years later Oak Hill ES was overcrowded and the county proposed moving the Nestlewood section to Crossfield and moving my neighborhood to Navy since we were closer to Navy and you could take Thompson Rd to get there. My parents and all the other parents in Tuckaway strongly objected since we had already had to move schools once, so the county backed off and sent the Nestlewood section to Navy instead thus creating the island that exists.

Thanks, you just expanded on what I was told some years ago when I moved to the area (not Franklin Farm.) I was told the Nestlewood people objected to leaving Oak Hill and organized and that is why they did not go to Crossfield initialy. (This was prior to being divided by 286--FFXCounty Parkway.)

But, now, why are they not sending them to Crossfield? It doesn't make sense to send them to Oak Hill. It remains an island--just a closer one, I guess.

My understanding is cause Nestlewood goes to Franklin, whereas Crossfield goes to Carson. I agree though Crossfield has capacity and they are surrounded by Crossfield neighborhoods

There was a proposal to move the Navy island to Crossfield some years back. Maybe like 10 years ago? People objected because they wouldn’t have let the island kids go on to Carson after that. They would have been the only ones to go Crossfield-Franklin. The pushback was successful and they stayed at Navy. If there is no choice but to move now (which is debatable), parents may prefer Oak Hill-Franklin to Crossfield-Carson because at least the kids’ Navy friends will be at Franklin.

I completely get why they wouldn’t want that. Seems too logical for the County to find space at Carson for them, so that the side of the parkway all goes to Crossfield-Carson-Oakton

I think there is another reason and it has nothing to do with the Navy Island kids.

And what do you think that reason is?

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Anonymous wrote:If anyone is curious why the Navy ES island exists, I know the history. I grew up in the Tuckaway section of Franklin Farm, I started at Oak Hill ES and then got moved to Crossfield ES when it opened. The Nestlewood section of Franklin Farm now ironically being proposed to be moved to Oak Hill stayed at Oak Hill. About 3 years later Oak Hill ES was overcrowded and the county proposed moving the Nestlewood section to Crossfield and moving my neighborhood to Navy since we were closer to Navy and you could take Thompson Rd to get there. My parents and all the other parents in Tuckaway strongly objected since we had already had to move schools once, so the county backed off and sent the Nestlewood section to Navy instead thus creating the island that exists.

Thanks, you just expanded on what I was told some years ago when I moved to the area (not Franklin Farm.) I was told the Nestlewood people objected to leaving Oak Hill and organized and that is why they did not go to Crossfield initialy. (This was prior to being divided by 286--FFXCounty Parkway.)

But, now, why are they not sending them to Crossfield? It doesn't make sense to send them to Oak Hill. It remains an island--just a closer one, I guess.

My understanding is cause Nestlewood goes to Franklin, whereas Crossfield goes to Carson. I agree though Crossfield has capacity and they are surrounded by Crossfield neighborhoods

I still don't understand why Crossfield doesn't go to Franklin like all the other schools zoned to Oakton in that area. They really need to swap Crossfield and Oak Hill so that they go to the right middle schools! Oak Hill is much closer to Carson and Franklin Farm is much closer to Franklin..

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Anonymous wrote:Is Crossfield the only Oakton zoned elementary at Carson? What is the opinion of Crossfield going to Franklin?

Space?

In this hypothetical, Brookfield would feed entirely to Rocky Run and Cub Run to Stone so Franklin boundaries didn’t cross RT-50.

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Anonymous wrote:The only reason timber lane is an island is because in 2013/2014 fairfax sold land to falls church city to end water wars. Unfair to now have our kids leave their schools/friends because of being an island but no other issues.

Did that have to do with the new Meridian High School and adjacent development?

For years Mary Ellen Henderson MS and George Mason (now Meridian) HS sat on property owned by Fairfax County even though they are Falls Church City schools. One of the FCC elementary schools (Mt. Daniel ES) still sits in Fairfax County.

For years, some Fairfax County residents got their water from a water utility owned by Falls Church City. It was very expensive and the county residents getting water from the FCC-owned utility claimed they were getting gouged.

As part of a deal, FCC transfered the water utility to the county, and the county transferred a parcel of land, including the land where Henderson and Meridian are now located, to FCC. There's been later development on that parcel, which is near the West Falls Church Metro, as well.

The county and the people who live in the county directly across the street from this development are pissed, by the way. Traffic is already a nightmare getting through FCC and this is just making it that much worse. Nobody would have expected this to happen, but here we are. FCC getting greeeeeeedy.

There is development now happening in the adjacent area closer to the WFC Metro in the county. It will add kids to Haycock/Longfellow/McLean. FCC is just more nimble in approving plans so the development started there first.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Crossfield the only Oakton zoned elementary at Carson? What is the opinion of Crossfield going to Franklin?

Space?

Nope, Franklin is under capacity (like 81%). There's plenty of space, especially if the Crossfield AAP kids choose to go to Navy.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Crossfield the only Oakton zoned elementary at Carson? What is the opinion of Crossfield going to Franklin?

Space?

Nope, Franklin is under capacity (like 81%). There's plenty of space, especially if the Crossfield AAP kids choose to go to Navy.

That should have read Carson not Navy!

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Anonymous wrote:Is Crossfield the only Oakton zoned elementary at Carson? What is the opinion of Crossfield going to Franklin?

Space?

In this hypothetical, Brookfield would feed entirely to Rocky Run and Cub Run to Stone so Franklin boundaries didn’t cross RT-50.

That would be make a LOT of sense, and both Rocky Run and Franklin are under capacity, so space is not an issue.

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Anonymous wrote:lol - just noticed that the Emerald Chase HOA website moved their instructions on how to manipulate the system behind a username/password login now.

I CALLED IT!! Hope whoever was going to take screenshots already took them.

I don’t think it had any instructions on how to manipulate, it told people to vote for Emerald Chase related topics. Someone did post on here how to do it and it looks like the Hunt Valley folks joined the party. Will be curious to see how tomorrow’s meeting goes, since it’s now very obviously a flawed, terrible system. I find it someone ironic since the Thru guys supposedly had experience in IT implementations as opposed to doing boundary adjustments.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Crossfield the only Oakton zoned elementary at Carson? What is the opinion of Crossfield going to Franklin?

Space?

In this hypothetical, Brookfield would feed entirely to Rocky Run and Cub Run to Stone so Franklin boundaries didn’t cross RT-50.

That would be make a LOT of sense, and both Rocky Run and Franklin are under capacity, so space is not an issue.

If Franklin and Rocky Run are under capacity how is Chantilly so overcapacity?

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Anonymous wrote:Is Crossfield the only Oakton zoned elementary at Carson? What is the opinion of Crossfield going to Franklin?

Space?

In this hypothetical, Brookfield would feed entirely to Rocky Run and Cub Run to Stone so Franklin boundaries didn’t cross RT-50.

That would be make a LOT of sense, and both Rocky Run and Franklin are under capacity, so space is not an issue.

If Franklin and Rocky Run are under capacity how is Chantilly so overcapacity?

They all transfer to Carson for AAP.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Crossfield the only Oakton zoned elementary at Carson? What is the opinion of Crossfield going to Franklin?

Space?

In this hypothetical, Brookfield would feed entirely to Rocky Run and Cub Run to Stone so Franklin boundaries didn’t cross RT-50.

That would be make a LOT of sense, and both Rocky Run and Franklin are under capacity, so space is not an issue.

If Franklin and Rocky Run are under capacity how is Chantilly so overcapacity?

FCPS is full of situations where MS capacities are not aligned with HS capacities. They make no effort to do so. Cooper just got renovated but it doesn’t have 50% of the capacity of Langley, as it should.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Crossfield the only Oakton zoned elementary at Carson? What is the opinion of Crossfield going to Franklin?

Space?

In this hypothetical, Brookfield would feed entirely to Rocky Run and Cub Run to Stone so Franklin boundaries didn’t cross RT-50.

That would be make a LOT of sense, and both Rocky Run and Franklin are under capacity, so space is not an issue.

If Franklin and Rocky Run are under capacity how is Chantilly so overcapacity?

They all transfer to Carson for AAP.

Rocky Run is an AAP center.

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AAP centers need to end. They confuse every boundary and are unnecessary.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Crossfield the only Oakton zoned elementary at Carson? What is the opinion of Crossfield going to Franklin?

Space?

In this hypothetical, Brookfield would feed entirely to Rocky Run and Cub Run to Stone so Franklin boundaries didn’t cross RT-50.

That would be make a LOT of sense, and both Rocky Run and Franklin are under capacity, so space is not an issue.

If Franklin and Rocky Run are under capacity how is Chantilly so overcapacity?

RR was renovated in 2020-2021. I think its capacity is around 1300 with 900 enrolled. It’s a really nice building. Isn’t Franklin on the renovation list for soon? At least that’s what the school custodian told me when we were chatting during a Saturday of games there. Chantilly hasn’t been touched for decades.

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I'm getting lost in all these different discussions. Are there any communities who truly think their school is overcrowded and boundaries should be changed or are unhappy with a split feeder/attendance island and like the idea of realigning? Any at all?