Big Beautiful Bill

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Parliamentarian nixes more provisions from the OBBB:

Private school vouchers. This section creates a new, unprecedented federal subsidy for private and religious schools. (Section 70411)

Religious college carve-out from the endowments tax. This section exempts a very small number of religious schools, including Hillsdale College, from an income tax on college endowments. (Section 70415(c)(1)(C)(ii) and 70415(c)(1)(D))

Deregulation of gun silencers and easily concealable guns. This section removes the regulations pertaining to gun silencers and easily concealable firearms under the National Firearms Act. (Section 70436)

Mandatory pre-certification for Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) claimants. This section adds an unprecedented pre-certification process to EITC eligibility, requiring otherwise eligible EITC claimants to obtain a certification that their child is eligible before claiming the credit. (Section 70613(a))

Increasing penalties for disclosures of taxpayer information. This section increases the maximum fine for illegal disclosures of taxpayer information from $5,000 to $250,000 and increases the maximum term of imprisonment from 5 years to 10 years. (Section 70615)

https://www.budget.senate.gov/ranking-member/newsroom/press/more-provisions-violate-byrd-rule-in-republicans-one-big-beautiful-bill

They will override the Parliamentarian.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Parliamentarian nixes more provisions from the OBBB:

Private school vouchers. This section creates a new, unprecedented federal subsidy for private and religious schools. (Section 70411)

Religious college carve-out from the endowments tax. This section exempts a very small number of religious schools, including Hillsdale College, from an income tax on college endowments. (Section 70415(c)(1)(C)(ii) and 70415(c)(1)(D))

Deregulation of gun silencers and easily concealable guns. This section removes the regulations pertaining to gun silencers and easily concealable firearms under the National Firearms Act. (Section 70436)

Mandatory pre-certification for Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) claimants. This section adds an unprecedented pre-certification process to EITC eligibility, requiring otherwise eligible EITC claimants to obtain a certification that their child is eligible before claiming the credit. (Section 70613(a))

Increasing penalties for disclosures of taxpayer information. This section increases the maximum fine for illegal disclosures of taxpayer information from $5,000 to $250,000 and increases the maximum term of imprisonment from 5 years to 10 years. (Section 70615)

https://www.budget.senate.gov/ranking-member/newsroom/press/more-provisions-violate-byrd-rule-in-republicans-one-big-beautiful-bill

They will override the Parliamentarian.

I’m sure that they will try. We are in the worst government under the worst president in the history of the United States and there is absolutely no question about this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Parliamentarian nixes more provisions from the OBBB:

Private school vouchers. This section creates a new, unprecedented federal subsidy for private and religious schools. (Section 70411)

Religious college carve-out from the endowments tax. This section exempts a very small number of religious schools, including Hillsdale College, from an income tax on college endowments. (Section 70415(c)(1)(C)(ii) and 70415(c)(1)(D))

Deregulation of gun silencers and easily concealable guns. This section removes the regulations pertaining to gun silencers and easily concealable firearms under the National Firearms Act. (Section 70436)

Mandatory pre-certification for Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) claimants. This section adds an unprecedented pre-certification process to EITC eligibility, requiring otherwise eligible EITC claimants to obtain a certification that their child is eligible before claiming the credit. (Section 70613(a))

Increasing penalties for disclosures of taxpayer information. This section increases the maximum fine for illegal disclosures of taxpayer information from $5,000 to $250,000 and increases the maximum term of imprisonment from 5 years to 10 years. (Section 70615)

https://www.budget.senate.gov/ranking-member/newsroom/press/more-provisions-violate-byrd-rule-in-republicans-one-big-beautiful-bill

They will override the Parliamentarian.

They won't. They may go around the letter of the decision somehow for some of the issues but they will not override or ignore the parliamentarian, the consequences of that would be disastrous for them (and everyone).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Byrd rule is destroying the BBB. So many of the fancy-pants end-run stuff they packed in to the reconciliation bill are getting nixed.

When the BBB finally comes up for a vote, it may end up being a minimal basically-a-CR.

The upcoming vote (or not-a-vote) on the rescissions package is one to watch. If they don't vote on it by the 18th, the package fails and the administration must spend the money. We'll see.

You can’t change the law with only 51 votes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Byrd rule is destroying the BBB. So many of the fancy-pants end-run stuff they packed in to the reconciliation bill are getting nixed.

When the BBB finally comes up for a vote, it may end up being a minimal basically-a-CR.

The upcoming vote (or not-a-vote) on the rescissions package is one to watch. If they don't vote on it by the 18th, the package fails and the administration must spend the money. We'll see.

You can’t change the law with only 51 votes.

That is just the filibuster rule. It is a senate rule. The rule needs to go. Whoever is in majority should be able to pass laws with a simple majority. The senate is already slanted to small, under populated rural states.

[Anonymous]

Thune says they will not override Parliamentarian but, as we all know, Thune has no qualms about lying.

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/06/26/congress/john-thune-senate-parliamentarian-overrule-00425792

[Anonymous]

New blow to bbb by Senate Parliamentarian!
I hope she is very strong because it won't be long before tommy tooterville will be calling for her to be tested and feathered !

Senate parliamentarian deals a blow to GOP's proposed $1,000 fee for asylum-seekers - Live Updates - POLITICO https://share.google/QVR7fFvpv9nbXE4mF

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New blow to bbb by Senate Parliamentarian!
I hope she is very strong because it won't be long before tommy tooterville will be calling for her to be tested and feathered !

Senate parliamentarian deals a blow to GOP's proposed $1,000 fee for asylum-seekers - Live Updates - POLITICO https://share.google/QVR7fFvpv9nbXE4mF

Tarred and feathered ^^

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Parliamentarian nixes more provisions from the OBBB:

Private school vouchers. This section creates a new, unprecedented federal subsidy for private and religious schools. (Section 70411)

Religious college carve-out from the endowments tax. This section exempts a very small number of religious schools, including Hillsdale College, from an income tax on college endowments. (Section 70415(c)(1)(C)(ii) and 70415(c)(1)(D))

Deregulation of gun silencers and easily concealable guns. This section removes the regulations pertaining to gun silencers and easily concealable firearms under the National Firearms Act. (Section 70436)

Mandatory pre-certification for Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) claimants. This section adds an unprecedented pre-certification process to EITC eligibility, requiring otherwise eligible EITC claimants to obtain a certification that their child is eligible before claiming the credit. (Section 70613(a))

Increasing penalties for disclosures of taxpayer information. This section increases the maximum fine for illegal disclosures of taxpayer information from $5,000 to $250,000 and increases the maximum term of imprisonment from 5 years to 10 years. (Section 70615)

https://www.budget.senate.gov/ranking-member/newsroom/press/more-provisions-violate-byrd-rule-in-republicans-one-big-beautiful-bill

They will override the Parliamentarian.

They won't. They may go around the letter of the decision somehow for some of the issues but they will not override or ignore the parliamentarian, the consequences of that would be disastrous for them (and everyone).

You are naive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Byrd rule is destroying the BBB. So many of the fancy-pants end-run stuff they packed in to the reconciliation bill are getting nixed.

When the BBB finally comes up for a vote, it may end up being a minimal basically-a-CR.

The upcoming vote (or not-a-vote) on the rescissions package is one to watch. If they don't vote on it by the 18th, the package fails and the administration must spend the money. We'll see.

You can’t change the law with only 51 votes.

That is just the filibuster rule. It is a senate rule. The rule needs to go. Whoever is in majority should be able to pass laws with a simple majority. The senate is already slanted to small, under populated rural states.

Everyone always said that the Democrats couldn’t scrap the filibuster because than as soon as the Republicans got power they would use that to run roughshod over everything that’s been done to improve regular people’s lives over the last hundred years. These guys are governing like they’ll never lose power again, I don’t think it’s out of the question.

[Anonymous]

Here’s the deal. Most candidates are in non-competitive seats so there will be a few Republicans that are going to lose their seats over this bill, but the rest will remain in power. Mike Johnson has never, ever had a contested race. Not when he ran in state legislator or for Congress. He’s never had a primary or a democratic opponent. He has no fear of losing his seat as long as he hugs Trump.

Republicans are not in the government to do anything. They hate government. They’d much rather be in the minority where they can throw their bombs and get on TV and make money.

This bill will pass. It will be terrible. Democrats will sweep the midterms, Trump will blame Democrats for stopping his agenda, voters will buy this and we’ll another close race in 2028.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here’s the deal. Most candidates are in non-competitive seats so there will be a few Republicans that are going to lose their seats over this bill, but the rest will remain in power. Mike Johnson has never, ever had a contested race. Not when he ran in state legislator or for Congress. He’s never had a primary or a democratic opponent. He has no fear of losing his seat as long as he hugs Trump.

Republicans are not in the government to do anything. They hate government. They’d much rather be in the minority where they can throw their bombs and get on TV and make money.

This bill will pass. It will be terrible. Democrats will sweep the midterms, Trump will blame Democrats for stopping his agenda, voters will buy this and we’ll another close race in 2028.

Meant to say most members of Congress.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Byrd rule is destroying the BBB. So many of the fancy-pants end-run stuff they packed in to the reconciliation bill are getting nixed.

When the BBB finally comes up for a vote, it may end up being a minimal basically-a-CR.

The upcoming vote (or not-a-vote) on the rescissions package is one to watch. If they don't vote on it by the 18th, the package fails and the administration must spend the money. We'll see.

You can’t change the law with only 51 votes.

That is just the filibuster rule. It is a senate rule. The rule needs to go. Whoever is in majority should be able to pass laws with a simple majority. The senate is already slanted to small, under populated rural states.

Everyone always said that the Democrats couldn’t scrap the filibuster because than as soon as the Republicans got power they would use that to run roughshod over everything that’s been done to improve regular people’s lives over the last hundred years. These guys are governing like they’ll never lose power again, I don’t think it’s out of the question.

They aren't going to lose power again. Or by the time they do, the party will be almost as unrecognizable then as it would be to a Republican who had been frozen in time circa 1968 and awoken today.

The country is already under minoritarian rule and the minoritarians have been steadily chipping away at the fairly weak safeguards that existed to bar the most egregious voter suppression. It's perfectly legal for the majority party to rig voting through gerrymandering to keep themselves in power. Republicans fought for months to steal a state Supreme Court seat in North Carolina, and while they eventually caved, they are only getting bolder. The Supreme Court routinely twists facts or language to produce the results it wants or flat out invalidates laws it doesn't like by creating standards for Congress out of thin air. And Congress has thoroughly abdicated its power.

No one should be surprised in 2028 if we end up with JD Vance as President even though he loses the popular vote AND the Electoral College vote. A couple swing states will simply appoint electors that will give their state's EC votes to Vance and I predict the Supreme Court will rule from its ivory tower that it's perfectly legal and Constitutional.

The American decline has been gradual but steadily accelerating for the last 40-ish years. We are moving very quickly down the hill now. The crash won't come for awhile, but Gen X and perhaps elder millenials will be the last to experience increasing wealth and abundance throughout their adulthood as they work and invest. The age of American greatness is coming to an end.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Parliamentarian nixes more provisions from the OBBB:

Private school vouchers. This section creates a new, unprecedented federal subsidy for private and religious schools. (Section 70411)

Religious college carve-out from the endowments tax. This section exempts a very small number of religious schools, including Hillsdale College, from an income tax on college endowments. (Section 70415(c)(1)(C)(ii) and 70415(c)(1)(D))

Deregulation of gun silencers and easily concealable guns. This section removes the regulations pertaining to gun silencers and easily concealable firearms under the National Firearms Act. (Section 70436)

Mandatory pre-certification for Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) claimants. This section adds an unprecedented pre-certification process to EITC eligibility, requiring otherwise eligible EITC claimants to obtain a certification that their child is eligible before claiming the credit. (Section 70613(a))

Increasing penalties for disclosures of taxpayer information. This section increases the maximum fine for illegal disclosures of taxpayer information from $5,000 to $250,000 and increases the maximum term of imprisonment from 5 years to 10 years. (Section 70615)

https://www.budget.senate.gov/ranking-member/newsroom/press/more-provisions-violate-byrd-rule-in-republicans-one-big-beautiful-bill

They will override the Parliamentarian.

They won't. They may go around the letter of the decision somehow for some of the issues but they will not override or ignore the parliamentarian, the consequences of that would be disastrous for them (and everyone).

+1. That is not a precedent they want to set. I think the last one that was fired was decades ago. This woman calls it straight.

[Anonymous]

The GOP will lose power because their BBB is hurting Red State MAGAS with . Medicaid cuts
They won't vote for a Dem but they will simply not vote which will give Dems the win. Tillis is scared as are many House members.