Does anyone know the status of the Proposed BASIS Expansion

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Anonymous wrote:McKinley, give us a break. Lame AP and SAT results, not diverse, heavy on social promotion. Not a complete bust but close.

McKinley gets kids into MIT and JHU. I know a Dartmouth grad from there. Can't be that "lame".

Only 22% of McKinley students have passed a single AP exam but sure they are sending lots of kids to MIT….

Yes, and passing or 3 is not great. Better to get a 4 or 5.

What is the bigger issue is that these outliers 1 or 2 kids are not going to be equipped for the higher level playing field at competitve colleges. I suspect the McKinley kids are going to struggle in this environment.

Let’s be clear—this isn’t some blanket endorsement of McKinley Tech as an institution. But the idea that the few students who do get into top-tier colleges are destined to flounder is narrow-minded and illogical. Competitive admissions teams aren’t in the business of setting students up to fail; they admit kids because they’ve seen the potential for success. Yes, the transition might be challenging, but these schools don’t admit students as charity cases—they admit them because they believe they’ll ultimately thrive.

Frankly, implying otherwise comes off as more condescending toward those students than insightful about their actual prospects.

No one said they are going to fail but the reality is that many kids in DC takes 4 or 5 years to even get a degree. Many others also just fail out or never finish and end up in major debt. That is just for your average college. It is not even for the top ones where the study body is much higher performing and coming from much more rigorous schools. These kids will struggle no matter how much summer programming there school offers or remedial classes or mentors they have. It is a fact. Some will get a degree and others might not.

Have you even talked to a high school teacher in one of these schools? Ask them.

Sure, maybe some kids have potential and no one is saying to set them up to fail. But not acknowledging that there is a big struggle and how poorly DCPS sets these kids up for college is not helping anyone. It is not condescending but reality.

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Anonymous wrote:McKinley, give us a break. Lame AP and SAT results, not diverse, heavy on social promotion. Not a complete bust but close.

McKinley gets kids into MIT and JHU. I know a Dartmouth grad from there. Can't be that "lame".

Only 22% of McKinley students have passed a single AP exam but sure they are sending lots of kids to MIT….

Yes, and passing or 3 is not great. Better to get a 4 or 5.

What is the bigger issue is that these outliers 1 or 2 kids are not going to be equipped for the higher level playing field at competitve colleges. I suspect the McKinley kids are going to struggle in this environment.

Let’s be clear—this isn’t some blanket endorsement of McKinley Tech as an institution. But the idea that the few students who do get into top-tier colleges are destined to flounder is narrow-minded and illogical. Competitive admissions teams aren’t in the business of setting students up to fail; they admit kids because they’ve seen the potential for success. Yes, the transition might be challenging, but these schools don’t admit students as charity cases—they admit them because they believe they’ll ultimately thrive.

Frankly, implying otherwise comes off as more condescending toward those students than insightful about their actual prospects.

No one said they are going to fail but the reality is that many kids in DC takes 4 or 5 years to even get a degree. Many others also just fail out or never finish and end up in major debt. That is just for your average college. It is not even for the top ones where the study body is much higher performing and coming from much more rigorous schools. These kids will struggle no matter how much summer programming there school offers or remedial classes or mentors they have. It is a fact. Some will get a degree and others might not.

Have you even talked to a high school teacher in one of these schools? Ask them.

Sure, maybe some kids have potential and no one is saying to set them up to fail. But not acknowledging that there is a big struggle and how poorly DCPS sets these kids up for college is not helping anyone. It is not condescending but reality.

This isn't Anacostia High School we're talking about. And even that kid did graduate from Georgetown, just slightly late.

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Anonymous wrote:McKinley, give us a break. Lame AP and SAT results, not diverse, heavy on social promotion. Not a complete bust but close.

McKinley gets kids into MIT and JHU. I know a Dartmouth grad from there. Can't be that "lame".

Only 22% of McKinley students have passed a single AP exam but sure they are sending lots of kids to MIT….

Yes, and passing or 3 is not great. Better to get a 4 or 5.

What is the bigger issue is that these outliers 1 or 2 kids are not going to be equipped for the higher level playing field at competitve colleges. I suspect the McKinley kids are going to struggle in this environment.

Let’s be clear—this isn’t some blanket endorsement of McKinley Tech as an institution. But the idea that the few students who do get into top-tier colleges are destined to flounder is narrow-minded and illogical. Competitive admissions teams aren’t in the business of setting students up to fail; they admit kids because they’ve seen the potential for success. Yes, the transition might be challenging, but these schools don’t admit students as charity cases—they admit them because they believe they’ll ultimately thrive.

Frankly, implying otherwise comes off as more condescending toward those students than insightful about their actual prospects.

No one said they are going to fail but the reality is that many kids in DC takes 4 or 5 years to even get a degree. Many others also just fail out or never finish and end up in major debt. That is just for your average college. It is not even for the top ones where the study body is much higher performing and coming from much more rigorous schools. These kids will struggle no matter how much summer programming there school offers or remedial classes or mentors they have. It is a fact. Some will get a degree and others might not.

Have you even talked to a high school teacher in one of these schools? Ask them.

Sure, maybe some kids have potential and no one is saying to set them up to fail. But not acknowledging that there is a big struggle and how poorly DCPS sets these kids up for college is not helping anyone. It is not condescending but reality.

I went to a strong suburban HS. My first semester at a selective college was relatively easy (as it was for kids from prep schools), whereas classmates from even average high schools struggled. After a year or so things evened out, but preparation does matter.

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Anonymous wrote:McKinley, give us a break. Lame AP and SAT results, not diverse, heavy on social promotion. Not a complete bust but close.

McKinley gets kids into MIT and JHU. I know a Dartmouth grad from there. Can't be that "lame".

Only 22% of McKinley students have passed a single AP exam but sure they are sending lots of kids to MIT….

Yes, and passing or 3 is not great. Better to get a 4 or 5.

What is the bigger issue is that these outliers 1 or 2 kids are not going to be equipped for the higher level playing field at competitve colleges. I suspect the McKinley kids are going to struggle in this environment.

Let’s be clear—this isn’t some blanket endorsement of McKinley Tech as an institution. But the idea that the few students who do get into top-tier colleges are destined to flounder is narrow-minded and illogical. Competitive admissions teams aren’t in the business of setting students up to fail; they admit kids because they’ve seen the potential for success. Yes, the transition might be challenging, but these schools don’t admit students as charity cases—they admit them because they believe they’ll ultimately thrive.

Frankly, implying otherwise comes off as more condescending toward those students than insightful about their actual prospects.

No one said they are going to fail but the reality is that many kids in DC takes 4 or 5 years to even get a degree. Many others also just fail out or never finish and end up in major debt. That is just for your average college. It is not even for the top ones where the study body is much higher performing and coming from much more rigorous schools. These kids will struggle no matter how much summer programming there school offers or remedial classes or mentors they have. It is a fact. Some will get a degree and others might not.

Have you even talked to a high school teacher in one of these schools? Ask them.

Sure, maybe some kids have potential and no one is saying to set them up to fail. But not acknowledging that there is a big struggle and how poorly DCPS sets these kids up for college is not helping anyone. It is not condescending but reality.

This isn't Anacostia High School we're talking about. And even that kid did graduate from Georgetown, just slightly late.

Graduated late and what was the GPA? If you are gunning for med school, top law school, grad school a year of poor grades is not going to make up for the last 3 years to be competitive to get in even if you do well then.

Also for jobs at top competitive, coveted companies, they use a cut off GPA as screening. My brother interviews for a well known company.

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Anonymous wrote:McKinley, give us a break. Lame AP and SAT results, not diverse, heavy on social promotion. Not a complete bust but close.

McKinley gets kids into MIT and JHU. I know a Dartmouth grad from there. Can't be that "lame".

Only 22% of McKinley students have passed a single AP exam but sure they are sending lots of kids to MIT….

Yes, and passing or 3 is not great. Better to get a 4 or 5.

What is the bigger issue is that these outliers 1 or 2 kids are not going to be equipped for the higher level playing field at competitve colleges. I suspect the McKinley kids are going to struggle in this environment.

Let’s be clear—this isn’t some blanket endorsement of McKinley Tech as an institution. But the idea that the few students who do get into top-tier colleges are destined to flounder is narrow-minded and illogical. Competitive admissions teams aren’t in the business of setting students up to fail; they admit kids because they’ve seen the potential for success. Yes, the transition might be challenging, but these schools don’t admit students as charity cases—they admit them because they believe they’ll ultimately thrive.

Frankly, implying otherwise comes off as more condescending toward those students than insightful about their actual prospects.

No one said they are going to fail but the reality is that many kids in DC takes 4 or 5 years to even get a degree. Many others also just fail out or never finish and end up in major debt. That is just for your average college. It is not even for the top ones where the study body is much higher performing and coming from much more rigorous schools. These kids will struggle no matter how much summer programming there school offers or remedial classes or mentors they have. It is a fact. Some will get a degree and others might not.

Have you even talked to a high school teacher in one of these schools? Ask them.

Sure, maybe some kids have potential and no one is saying to set them up to fail. But not acknowledging that there is a big struggle and how poorly DCPS sets these kids up for college is not helping anyone. It is not condescending but reality.

This isn't Anacostia High School we're talking about. And even that kid did graduate from Georgetown, just slightly late.

Graduated late and what was the GPA? If you are gunning for med school, top law school, grad school a year of poor grades is not going to make up for the last 3 years to be competitive to get in even if you do well then.

Also for jobs at top competitive, coveted companies, they use a cut off GPA as screening. My brother interviews for a well known company.

I don't think "my brother works in HR" is the flex you think it is. And no, I don't know what some kid's GPA was and it's weird that you would ask that.

McKinley has the numbers it has because of the population it serves, not because it's failing to teach its students. Truancy rates are single-digits: higher than Banneker, lower than JR. (Anacostia's is 55%.) It's not unbelievable at all that there would be the occasional student who goes to an elite college and is well-prepared for it via a combination of school and extracurricular/summer programs.

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Anonymous wrote:McKinley, give us a break. Lame AP and SAT results, not diverse, heavy on social promotion. Not a complete bust but close.

McKinley gets kids into MIT and JHU. I know a Dartmouth grad from there. Can't be that "lame".

Only 22% of McKinley students have passed a single AP exam but sure they are sending lots of kids to MIT….

Yes, and passing or 3 is not great. Better to get a 4 or 5.

What is the bigger issue is that these outliers 1 or 2 kids are not going to be equipped for the higher level playing field at competitve colleges. I suspect the McKinley kids are going to struggle in this environment.

Let’s be clear—this isn’t some blanket endorsement of McKinley Tech as an institution. But the idea that the few students who do get into top-tier colleges are destined to flounder is narrow-minded and illogical. Competitive admissions teams aren’t in the business of setting students up to fail; they admit kids because they’ve seen the potential for success. Yes, the transition might be challenging, but these schools don’t admit students as charity cases—they admit them because they believe they’ll ultimately thrive.

Frankly, implying otherwise comes off as more condescending toward those students than insightful about their actual prospects.

No one said they are going to fail but the reality is that many kids in DC takes 4 or 5 years to even get a degree. Many others also just fail out or never finish and end up in major debt. That is just for your average college. It is not even for the top ones where the study body is much higher performing and coming from much more rigorous schools. These kids will struggle no matter how much summer programming there school offers or remedial classes or mentors they have. It is a fact. Some will get a degree and others might not.

Have you even talked to a high school teacher in one of these schools? Ask them.

Sure, maybe some kids have potential and no one is saying to set them up to fail. But not acknowledging that there is a big struggle and how poorly DCPS sets these kids up for college is not helping anyone. It is not condescending but reality.

I don’t care where you went to HS, if a T20 finds you worthy of admission, you’ll probably be fine, even if you struggle more on the front end, even if it takes you five years to graduate.

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Anonymous wrote:McKinley, give us a break. Lame AP and SAT results, not diverse, heavy on social promotion. Not a complete bust but close.

McKinley gets kids into MIT and JHU. I know a Dartmouth grad from there. Can't be that "lame".

Only 22% of McKinley students have passed a single AP exam but sure they are sending lots of kids to MIT….

Yes, and passing or 3 is not great. Better to get a 4 or 5.

What is the bigger issue is that these outliers 1 or 2 kids are not going to be equipped for the higher level playing field at competitve colleges. I suspect the McKinley kids are going to struggle in this environment.

Let’s be clear—this isn’t some blanket endorsement of McKinley Tech as an institution. But the idea that the few students who do get into top-tier colleges are destined to flounder is narrow-minded and illogical. Competitive admissions teams aren’t in the business of setting students up to fail; they admit kids because they’ve seen the potential for success. Yes, the transition might be challenging, but these schools don’t admit students as charity cases—they admit them because they believe they’ll ultimately thrive.

Frankly, implying otherwise comes off as more condescending toward those students than insightful about their actual prospects.

No one said they are going to fail but the reality is that many kids in DC takes 4 or 5 years to even get a degree. Many others also just fail out or never finish and end up in major debt. That is just for your average college. It is not even for the top ones where the study body is much higher performing and coming from much more rigorous schools. These kids will struggle no matter how much summer programming there school offers or remedial classes or mentors they have. It is a fact. Some will get a degree and others might not.

Have you even talked to a high school teacher in one of these schools? Ask them.

Sure, maybe some kids have potential and no one is saying to set them up to fail. But not acknowledging that there is a big struggle and how poorly DCPS sets these kids up for college is not helping anyone. It is not condescending but reality.

This isn't Anacostia High School we're talking about. And even that kid did graduate from Georgetown, just slightly late.

Graduated late and what was the GPA? If you are gunning for med school, top law school, grad school a year of poor grades is not going to make up for the last 3 years to be competitive to get in even if you do well then.

Also for jobs at top competitive, coveted companies, they use a cut off GPA as screening. My brother interviews for a well known company.

I don't think "my brother works in HR" is the flex you think it is. And no, I don't know what some kid's GPA was and it's weird that you would ask that.

McKinley has the numbers it has because of the population it serves, not because it's failing to teach its students. Truancy rates are single-digits: higher than Banneker, lower than JR. (Anacostia's is 55%.) It's not unbelievable at all that there would be the occasional student who goes to an elite college and is well-prepared for it via a combination of school and extracurricular/summer programs.

PP here. No my brother doesn’t work in HR. He is in an upper management leadership position supervising teams and HR sends him the CV. You don’t actually think HR is the one hiring people at these big name companies.

Like colleges, the GPA will dictate if your CV is actually even considered to be reviewed as the 1st screening step of many steps.

I don’t believe you that you think a kid going thru Mckinley is actually going to be prepared for college. But hey, you do you.

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Anonymous wrote:McKinley, give us a break. Lame AP and SAT results, not diverse, heavy on social promotion. Not a complete bust but close.

McKinley gets kids into MIT and JHU. I know a Dartmouth grad from there. Can't be that "lame".

Only 22% of McKinley students have passed a single AP exam but sure they are sending lots of kids to MIT….

Yes, and passing or 3 is not great. Better to get a 4 or 5.

What is the bigger issue is that these outliers 1 or 2 kids are not going to be equipped for the higher level playing field at competitve colleges. I suspect the McKinley kids are going to struggle in this environment.

Let’s be clear—this isn’t some blanket endorsement of McKinley Tech as an institution. But the idea that the few students who do get into top-tier colleges are destined to flounder is narrow-minded and illogical. Competitive admissions teams aren’t in the business of setting students up to fail; they admit kids because they’ve seen the potential for success. Yes, the transition might be challenging, but these schools don’t admit students as charity cases—they admit them because they believe they’ll ultimately thrive.

Frankly, implying otherwise comes off as more condescending toward those students than insightful about their actual prospects.

No one said they are going to fail but the reality is that many kids in DC takes 4 or 5 years to even get a degree. Many others also just fail out or never finish and end up in major debt. That is just for your average college. It is not even for the top ones where the study body is much higher performing and coming from much more rigorous schools. These kids will struggle no matter how much summer programming there school offers or remedial classes or mentors they have. It is a fact. Some will get a degree and others might not.

Have you even talked to a high school teacher in one of these schools? Ask them.

Sure, maybe some kids have potential and no one is saying to set them up to fail. But not acknowledging that there is a big struggle and how poorly DCPS sets these kids up for college is not helping anyone. It is not condescending but reality.

This isn't Anacostia High School we're talking about. And even that kid did graduate from Georgetown, just slightly late.

Graduated late and what was the GPA? If you are gunning for med school, top law school, grad school a year of poor grades is not going to make up for the last 3 years to be competitive to get in even if you do well then.

Also for jobs at top competitive, coveted companies, they use a cut off GPA as screening. My brother interviews for a well known company.

I don't think "my brother works in HR" is the flex you think it is. And no, I don't know what some kid's GPA was and it's weird that you would ask that.

McKinley has the numbers it has because of the population it serves, not because it's failing to teach its students. Truancy rates are single-digits: higher than Banneker, lower than JR. (Anacostia's is 55%.) It's not unbelievable at all that there would be the occasional student who goes to an elite college and is well-prepared for it via a combination of school and extracurricular/summer programs.

PP here. No my brother doesn’t work in HR. He is in an upper management leadership position supervising teams and HR sends him the CV. You don’t actually think HR is the one hiring people at these big name companies.

Like colleges, the GPA will dictate if your CV is actually even considered to be reviewed as the 1st screening step of many steps.

I don’t believe you that you think a kid going thru Mckinley is actually going to be prepared for college. But hey, you do you.

Lol. OK. Now we're not just saying they're not prepared for elite college, but no one going to McKinley is prepared for college *at all*.

This is their math team, which last year tied for first place with Jackson Reed at a local competition: https://www.instagram.com/mckinleytech/p/C8aHswUPnt6/?__d=1&img_index=1

Yes, I think these kids are going to be prepared for college. And I think you know about as much about DCPS high schools as you know about what your brother at the "big name company" does for a living.

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Anonymous wrote:McKinley, give us a break. Lame AP and SAT results, not diverse, heavy on social promotion. Not a complete bust but close.

McKinley gets kids into MIT and JHU. I know a Dartmouth grad from there. Can't be that "lame".

Only 22% of McKinley students have passed a single AP exam but sure they are sending lots of kids to MIT….

Yes, and passing or 3 is not great. Better to get a 4 or 5.

What is the bigger issue is that these outliers 1 or 2 kids are not going to be equipped for the higher level playing field at competitve colleges. I suspect the McKinley kids are going to struggle in this environment.

Let’s be clear—this isn’t some blanket endorsement of McKinley Tech as an institution. But the idea that the few students who do get into top-tier colleges are destined to flounder is narrow-minded and illogical. Competitive admissions teams aren’t in the business of setting students up to fail; they admit kids because they’ve seen the potential for success. Yes, the transition might be challenging, but these schools don’t admit students as charity cases—they admit them because they believe they’ll ultimately thrive.

Frankly, implying otherwise comes off as more condescending toward those students than insightful about their actual prospects.

No one said they are going to fail but the reality is that many kids in DC takes 4 or 5 years to even get a degree. Many others also just fail out or never finish and end up in major debt. That is just for your average college. It is not even for the top ones where the study body is much higher performing and coming from much more rigorous schools. These kids will struggle no matter how much summer programming there school offers or remedial classes or mentors they have. It is a fact. Some will get a degree and others might not.

Have you even talked to a high school teacher in one of these schools? Ask them.

Sure, maybe some kids have potential and no one is saying to set them up to fail. But not acknowledging that there is a big struggle and how poorly DCPS sets these kids up for college is not helping anyone. It is not condescending but reality.

This isn't Anacostia High School we're talking about. And even that kid did graduate from Georgetown, just slightly late.

Graduated late and what was the GPA? If you are gunning for med school, top law school, grad school a year of poor grades is not going to make up for the last 3 years to be competitive to get in even if you do well then.

Also for jobs at top competitive, coveted companies, they use a cut off GPA as screening. My brother interviews for a well known company.

I don't think "my brother works in HR" is the flex you think it is. And no, I don't know what some kid's GPA was and it's weird that you would ask that.

McKinley has the numbers it has because of the population it serves, not because it's failing to teach its students. Truancy rates are single-digits: higher than Banneker, lower than JR. (Anacostia's is 55%.) It's not unbelievable at all that there would be the occasional student who goes to an elite college and is well-prepared for it via a combination of school and extracurricular/summer programs.

PP here. No my brother doesn’t work in HR. He is in an upper management leadership position supervising teams and HR sends him the CV. You don’t actually think HR is the one hiring people at these big name companies.

Like colleges, the GPA will dictate if your CV is actually even considered to be reviewed as the 1st screening step of many steps.

I don’t believe you that you think a kid going thru Mckinley is actually going to be prepared for college. But hey, you do you.

Lol. OK. Now we're not just saying they're not prepared for elite college, but no one going to McKinley is prepared for college *at all*.

This is their math team, which last year tied for first place with Jackson Reed at a local competition: https://www.instagram.com/mckinleytech/p/C8aHswUPnt6/?__d=1&img_index=1

Yes, I think these kids are going to be prepared for college. And I think you know about as much about DCPS high schools as you know about what your brother at the "big name company" does for a living.

Sure, a lot go to college.

Here is where they go: Morgan State, NC A&T, NC Central, Temple, Delaware State, Howard, UDC, Clark Atlanta, GMU, Bowie State, Norfolk State, etc.

Here is where they go: Morgan State, NC A&T, NC Central, Temple, Delaware State, Howard, Clark Atlanta, GMU, Bowie State, and Norfolk State.

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Anonymous wrote:McKinley, give us a break. Lame AP and SAT results, not diverse, heavy on social promotion. Not a complete bust but close.

McKinley gets kids into MIT and JHU. I know a Dartmouth grad from there. Can't be that "lame".

Only 22% of McKinley students have passed a single AP exam but sure they are sending lots of kids to MIT….

Yes, and passing or 3 is not great. Better to get a 4 or 5.

What is the bigger issue is that these outliers 1 or 2 kids are not going to be equipped for the higher level playing field at competitve colleges. I suspect the McKinley kids are going to struggle in this environment.

Let’s be clear—this isn’t some blanket endorsement of McKinley Tech as an institution. But the idea that the few students who do get into top-tier colleges are destined to flounder is narrow-minded and illogical. Competitive admissions teams aren’t in the business of setting students up to fail; they admit kids because they’ve seen the potential for success. Yes, the transition might be challenging, but these schools don’t admit students as charity cases—they admit them because they believe they’ll ultimately thrive.

Frankly, implying otherwise comes off as more condescending toward those students than insightful about their actual prospects.

No one said they are going to fail but the reality is that many kids in DC takes 4 or 5 years to even get a degree. Many others also just fail out or never finish and end up in major debt. That is just for your average college. It is not even for the top ones where the study body is much higher performing and coming from much more rigorous schools. These kids will struggle no matter how much summer programming there school offers or remedial classes or mentors they have. It is a fact. Some will get a degree and others might not.

Have you even talked to a high school teacher in one of these schools? Ask them.

Sure, maybe some kids have potential and no one is saying to set them up to fail. But not acknowledging that there is a big struggle and how poorly DCPS sets these kids up for college is not helping anyone. It is not condescending but reality.

This isn't Anacostia High School we're talking about. And even that kid did graduate from Georgetown, just slightly late.

Graduated late and what was the GPA? If you are gunning for med school, top law school, grad school a year of poor grades is not going to make up for the last 3 years to be competitive to get in even if you do well then.

Also for jobs at top competitive, coveted companies, they use a cut off GPA as screening. My brother interviews for a well known company.

I don't think "my brother works in HR" is the flex you think it is. And no, I don't know what some kid's GPA was and it's weird that you would ask that.

McKinley has the numbers it has because of the population it serves, not because it's failing to teach its students. Truancy rates are single-digits: higher than Banneker, lower than JR. (Anacostia's is 55%.) It's not unbelievable at all that there would be the occasional student who goes to an elite college and is well-prepared for it via a combination of school and extracurricular/summer programs.

PP here. No my brother doesn’t work in HR. He is in an upper management leadership position supervising teams and HR sends him the CV. You don’t actually think HR is the one hiring people at these big name companies.

Like colleges, the GPA will dictate if your CV is actually even considered to be reviewed as the 1st screening step of many steps.

I don’t believe you that you think a kid going thru Mckinley is actually going to be prepared for college. But hey, you do you.

Lol. OK. Now we're not just saying they're not prepared for elite college, but no one going to McKinley is prepared for college *at all*.

This is their math team, which last year tied for first place with Jackson Reed at a local competition: https://www.instagram.com/mckinleytech/p/C8aHswUPnt6/?__d=1&img_index=1

Yes, I think these kids are going to be prepared for college. And I think you know about as much about DCPS high schools as you know about what your brother at the "big name company" does for a living.

Sure, a lot go to college.

Here is where they go: Morgan State, NC A&T, NC Central, Temple, Delaware State, Howard, UDC, Clark Atlanta, GMU, Bowie State, Norfolk State, etc.

Here is where they go: Morgan State, NC A&T, NC Central, Temple, Delaware State, Howard, Clark Atlanta, GMU, Bowie State, and Norfolk State.

And sometimes, they go to elite colleges. One went to MIT, excelled, and is now at Hopkins.

You know nothing about this school or these kids.

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Anonymous wrote:McKinley, give us a break. Lame AP and SAT results, not diverse, heavy on social promotion. Not a complete bust but close.

McKinley gets kids into MIT and JHU. I know a Dartmouth grad from there. Can't be that "lame".

Only 22% of McKinley students have passed a single AP exam but sure they are sending lots of kids to MIT….

Yes, and passing or 3 is not great. Better to get a 4 or 5.

What is the bigger issue is that these outliers 1 or 2 kids are not going to be equipped for the higher level playing field at competitve colleges. I suspect the McKinley kids are going to struggle in this environment.

Let’s be clear—this isn’t some blanket endorsement of McKinley Tech as an institution. But the idea that the few students who do get into top-tier colleges are destined to flounder is narrow-minded and illogical. Competitive admissions teams aren’t in the business of setting students up to fail; they admit kids because they’ve seen the potential for success. Yes, the transition might be challenging, but these schools don’t admit students as charity cases—they admit them because they believe they’ll ultimately thrive.

Frankly, implying otherwise comes off as more condescending toward those students than insightful about their actual prospects.

No one said they are going to fail but the reality is that many kids in DC takes 4 or 5 years to even get a degree. Many others also just fail out or never finish and end up in major debt. That is just for your average college. It is not even for the top ones where the study body is much higher performing and coming from much more rigorous schools. These kids will struggle no matter how much summer programming there school offers or remedial classes or mentors they have. It is a fact. Some will get a degree and others might not.

Have you even talked to a high school teacher in one of these schools? Ask them.

Sure, maybe some kids have potential and no one is saying to set them up to fail. But not acknowledging that there is a big struggle and how poorly DCPS sets these kids up for college is not helping anyone. It is not condescending but reality.

This isn't Anacostia High School we're talking about. And even that kid did graduate from Georgetown, just slightly late.

Graduated late and what was the GPA? If you are gunning for med school, top law school, grad school a year of poor grades is not going to make up for the last 3 years to be competitive to get in even if you do well then.

Also for jobs at top competitive, coveted companies, they use a cut off GPA as screening. My brother interviews for a well known company.

I don't think "my brother works in HR" is the flex you think it is. And no, I don't know what some kid's GPA was and it's weird that you would ask that.

McKinley has the numbers it has because of the population it serves, not because it's failing to teach its students. Truancy rates are single-digits: higher than Banneker, lower than JR. (Anacostia's is 55%.) It's not unbelievable at all that there would be the occasional student who goes to an elite college and is well-prepared for it via a combination of school and extracurricular/summer programs.

PP here. No my brother doesn’t work in HR. He is in an upper management leadership position supervising teams and HR sends him the CV. You don’t actually think HR is the one hiring people at these big name companies.

Like colleges, the GPA will dictate if your CV is actually even considered to be reviewed as the 1st screening step of many steps.

I don’t believe you that you think a kid going thru Mckinley is actually going to be prepared for college. But hey, you do you.

Lol. OK. Now we're not just saying they're not prepared for elite college, but no one going to McKinley is prepared for college *at all*.

This is their math team, which last year tied for first place with Jackson Reed at a local competition: https://www.instagram.com/mckinleytech/p/C8aHswUPnt6/?__d=1&img_index=1

Yes, I think these kids are going to be prepared for college. And I think you know about as much about DCPS high schools as you know about what your brother at the "big name company" does for a living.

Sure, a lot go to college.

Here is where they go: Morgan State, NC A&T, NC Central, Temple, Delaware State, Howard, UDC, Clark Atlanta, GMU, Bowie State, Norfolk State, etc.

Here is where they go: Morgan State, NC A&T, NC Central, Temple, Delaware State, Howard, Clark Atlanta, GMU, Bowie State, and Norfolk State.

And sometimes, they go to elite colleges. One went to MIT, excelled, and is now at Hopkins.

You know nothing about this school or these kids.

+1

And given the SES of most of these kids, this is a solid list. Real generation-by-generation work happening here.

- signed a Basis parent w/ two Ivy League degrees and raised by HBCU graduate parents

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Anonymous wrote:McKinley, give us a break. Lame AP and SAT results, not diverse, heavy on social promotion. Not a complete bust but close.

McKinley gets kids into MIT and JHU. I know a Dartmouth grad from there. Can't be that "lame".

Only 22% of McKinley students have passed a single AP exam but sure they are sending lots of kids to MIT….

Yes, and passing or 3 is not great. Better to get a 4 or 5.

What is the bigger issue is that these outliers 1 or 2 kids are not going to be equipped for the higher level playing field at competitve colleges. I suspect the McKinley kids are going to struggle in this environment.

Let’s be clear—this isn’t some blanket endorsement of McKinley Tech as an institution. But the idea that the few students who do get into top-tier colleges are destined to flounder is narrow-minded and illogical. Competitive admissions teams aren’t in the business of setting students up to fail; they admit kids because they’ve seen the potential for success. Yes, the transition might be challenging, but these schools don’t admit students as charity cases—they admit them because they believe they’ll ultimately thrive.

Frankly, implying otherwise comes off as more condescending toward those students than insightful about their actual prospects.

No one said they are going to fail but the reality is that many kids in DC takes 4 or 5 years to even get a degree. Many others also just fail out or never finish and end up in major debt. That is just for your average college. It is not even for the top ones where the study body is much higher performing and coming from much more rigorous schools. These kids will struggle no matter how much summer programming there school offers or remedial classes or mentors they have. It is a fact. Some will get a degree and others might not.

Have you even talked to a high school teacher in one of these schools? Ask them.

Sure, maybe some kids have potential and no one is saying to set them up to fail. But not acknowledging that there is a big struggle and how poorly DCPS sets these kids up for college is not helping anyone. It is not condescending but reality.

This isn't Anacostia High School we're talking about. And even that kid did graduate from Georgetown, just slightly late.

Graduated late and what was the GPA? If you are gunning for med school, top law school, grad school a year of poor grades is not going to make up for the last 3 years to be competitive to get in even if you do well then.

Also for jobs at top competitive, coveted companies, they use a cut off GPA as screening. My brother interviews for a well known company.

I don't think "my brother works in HR" is the flex you think it is. And no, I don't know what some kid's GPA was and it's weird that you would ask that.

McKinley has the numbers it has because of the population it serves, not because it's failing to teach its students. Truancy rates are single-digits: higher than Banneker, lower than JR. (Anacostia's is 55%.) It's not unbelievable at all that there would be the occasional student who goes to an elite college and is well-prepared for it via a combination of school and extracurricular/summer programs.

PP here. No my brother doesn’t work in HR. He is in an upper management leadership position supervising teams and HR sends him the CV. You don’t actually think HR is the one hiring people at these big name companies.

Like colleges, the GPA will dictate if your CV is actually even considered to be reviewed as the 1st screening step of many steps.

I don’t believe you that you think a kid going thru Mckinley is actually going to be prepared for college. But hey, you do you.

Lol. OK. Now we're not just saying they're not prepared for elite college, but no one going to McKinley is prepared for college *at all*.

This is their math team, which last year tied for first place with Jackson Reed at a local competition: https://www.instagram.com/mckinleytech/p/C8aHswUPnt6/?__d=1&img_index=1

Yes, I think these kids are going to be prepared for college. And I think you know about as much about DCPS high schools as you know about what your brother at the "big name company" does for a living.

You know what I meant because we are talking about MIT.

Sorry but not impressed. DCPS math competition. Like how many actual DCPS high schools have majority kids even at grade level in math. That bar is so low.

I know exactly what my brother does. Joke is on you.

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Anonymous wrote:McKinley, give us a break. Lame AP and SAT results, not diverse, heavy on social promotion. Not a complete bust but close.

McKinley gets kids into MIT and JHU. I know a Dartmouth grad from there. Can't be that "lame".

Only 22% of McKinley students have passed a single AP exam but sure they are sending lots of kids to MIT….

Yes, and passing or 3 is not great. Better to get a 4 or 5.

What is the bigger issue is that these outliers 1 or 2 kids are not going to be equipped for the higher level playing field at competitve colleges. I suspect the McKinley kids are going to struggle in this environment.

Let’s be clear—this isn’t some blanket endorsement of McKinley Tech as an institution. But the idea that the few students who do get into top-tier colleges are destined to flounder is narrow-minded and illogical. Competitive admissions teams aren’t in the business of setting students up to fail; they admit kids because they’ve seen the potential for success. Yes, the transition might be challenging, but these schools don’t admit students as charity cases—they admit them because they believe they’ll ultimately thrive.

Frankly, implying otherwise comes off as more condescending toward those students than insightful about their actual prospects.

No one said they are going to fail but the reality is that many kids in DC takes 4 or 5 years to even get a degree. Many others also just fail out or never finish and end up in major debt. That is just for your average college. It is not even for the top ones where the study body is much higher performing and coming from much more rigorous schools. These kids will struggle no matter how much summer programming there school offers or remedial classes or mentors they have. It is a fact. Some will get a degree and others might not.

Have you even talked to a high school teacher in one of these schools? Ask them.

Sure, maybe some kids have potential and no one is saying to set them up to fail. But not acknowledging that there is a big struggle and how poorly DCPS sets these kids up for college is not helping anyone. It is not condescending but reality.

This isn't Anacostia High School we're talking about. And even that kid did graduate from Georgetown, just slightly late.

Graduated late and what was the GPA? If you are gunning for med school, top law school, grad school a year of poor grades is not going to make up for the last 3 years to be competitive to get in even if you do well then.

Also for jobs at top competitive, coveted companies, they use a cut off GPA as screening. My brother interviews for a well known company.

I don't think "my brother works in HR" is the flex you think it is. And no, I don't know what some kid's GPA was and it's weird that you would ask that.

McKinley has the numbers it has because of the population it serves, not because it's failing to teach its students. Truancy rates are single-digits: higher than Banneker, lower than JR. (Anacostia's is 55%.) It's not unbelievable at all that there would be the occasional student who goes to an elite college and is well-prepared for it via a combination of school and extracurricular/summer programs.

PP here. No my brother doesn’t work in HR. He is in an upper management leadership position supervising teams and HR sends him the CV. You don’t actually think HR is the one hiring people at these big name companies.

Like colleges, the GPA will dictate if your CV is actually even considered to be reviewed as the 1st screening step of many steps.

I don’t believe you that you think a kid going thru Mckinley is actually going to be prepared for college. But hey, you do you.

Lol. OK. Now we're not just saying they're not prepared for elite college, but no one going to McKinley is prepared for college *at all*.

This is their math team, which last year tied for first place with Jackson Reed at a local competition: https://www.instagram.com/mckinleytech/p/C8aHswUPnt6/?__d=1&img_index=1

Yes, I think these kids are going to be prepared for college. And I think you know about as much about DCPS high schools as you know about what your brother at the "big name company" does for a living.

Sure, a lot go to college.

Here is where they go: Morgan State, NC A&T, NC Central, Temple, Delaware State, Howard, UDC, Clark Atlanta, GMU, Bowie State, Norfolk State, etc.

Here is where they go: Morgan State, NC A&T, NC Central, Temple, Delaware State, Howard, Clark Atlanta, GMU, Bowie State, and Norfolk State.

And sometimes, they go to elite colleges. One went to MIT, excelled, and is now at Hopkins.

You know nothing about this school or these kids.

+1

And given the SES of most of these kids, this is a solid list. Real generation-by-generation work happening here.

- signed a Basis parent w/ two Ivy League degrees and raised by HBCU graduate parents

Thank you!

DCPS gives us plenty to complain about, but McKinley is not one of the problems. My MIT-grad husband has volunteered with the robotics team and they are really doing some impressive stuff. The school should be celebrated for giving these kids a step up.

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Anonymous wrote:McKinley, give us a break. Lame AP and SAT results, not diverse, heavy on social promotion. Not a complete bust but close.

McKinley gets kids into MIT and JHU. I know a Dartmouth grad from there. Can't be that "lame".

Only 22% of McKinley students have passed a single AP exam but sure they are sending lots of kids to MIT….

Yes, and passing or 3 is not great. Better to get a 4 or 5.

What is the bigger issue is that these outliers 1 or 2 kids are not going to be equipped for the higher level playing field at competitve colleges. I suspect the McKinley kids are going to struggle in this environment.

Let’s be clear—this isn’t some blanket endorsement of McKinley Tech as an institution. But the idea that the few students who do get into top-tier colleges are destined to flounder is narrow-minded and illogical. Competitive admissions teams aren’t in the business of setting students up to fail; they admit kids because they’ve seen the potential for success. Yes, the transition might be challenging, but these schools don’t admit students as charity cases—they admit them because they believe they’ll ultimately thrive.

Frankly, implying otherwise comes off as more condescending toward those students than insightful about their actual prospects.

No one said they are going to fail but the reality is that many kids in DC takes 4 or 5 years to even get a degree. Many others also just fail out or never finish and end up in major debt. That is just for your average college. It is not even for the top ones where the study body is much higher performing and coming from much more rigorous schools. These kids will struggle no matter how much summer programming there school offers or remedial classes or mentors they have. It is a fact. Some will get a degree and others might not.

Have you even talked to a high school teacher in one of these schools? Ask them.

Sure, maybe some kids have potential and no one is saying to set them up to fail. But not acknowledging that there is a big struggle and how poorly DCPS sets these kids up for college is not helping anyone. It is not condescending but reality.

This isn't Anacostia High School we're talking about. And even that kid did graduate from Georgetown, just slightly late.

Graduated late and what was the GPA? If you are gunning for med school, top law school, grad school a year of poor grades is not going to make up for the last 3 years to be competitive to get in even if you do well then.

Also for jobs at top competitive, coveted companies, they use a cut off GPA as screening. My brother interviews for a well known company.

I don't think "my brother works in HR" is the flex you think it is. And no, I don't know what some kid's GPA was and it's weird that you would ask that.

McKinley has the numbers it has because of the population it serves, not because it's failing to teach its students. Truancy rates are single-digits: higher than Banneker, lower than JR. (Anacostia's is 55%.) It's not unbelievable at all that there would be the occasional student who goes to an elite college and is well-prepared for it via a combination of school and extracurricular/summer programs.

PP here. No my brother doesn’t work in HR. He is in an upper management leadership position supervising teams and HR sends him the CV. You don’t actually think HR is the one hiring people at these big name companies.

Like colleges, the GPA will dictate if your CV is actually even considered to be reviewed as the 1st screening step of many steps.

I don’t believe you that you think a kid going thru Mckinley is actually going to be prepared for college. But hey, you do you.

Lol. OK. Now we're not just saying they're not prepared for elite college, but no one going to McKinley is prepared for college *at all*.

This is their math team, which last year tied for first place with Jackson Reed at a local competition: https://www.instagram.com/mckinleytech/p/C8aHswUPnt6/?__d=1&img_index=1

Yes, I think these kids are going to be prepared for college. And I think you know about as much about DCPS high schools as you know about what your brother at the "big name company" does for a living.

Sure, a lot go to college.

Here is where they go: Morgan State, NC A&T, NC Central, Temple, Delaware State, Howard, UDC, Clark Atlanta, GMU, Bowie State, Norfolk State, etc.

Here is where they go: Morgan State, NC A&T, NC Central, Temple, Delaware State, Howard, Clark Atlanta, GMU, Bowie State, and Norfolk State.

And sometimes, they go to elite colleges. One went to MIT, excelled, and is now at Hopkins.

You know nothing about this school or these kids.

Sounds like PP actually knows where the kids go to college.

You, on the other hand, are just citing some outlier kid from years ago that you heard about third hand.

Kudos to that kid but you are just lying if you are suggesting that this school regularly sends kids to elite colleges.

Eastern occasionally sends a kid to the Ivies too but most kids are functionally illiterate in reading and math there.

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Anonymous wrote:McKinley, give us a break. Lame AP and SAT results, not diverse, heavy on social promotion. Not a complete bust but close.

McKinley gets kids into MIT and JHU. I know a Dartmouth grad from there. Can't be that "lame".

Only 22% of McKinley students have passed a single AP exam but sure they are sending lots of kids to MIT….

Yes, and passing or 3 is not great. Better to get a 4 or 5.

What is the bigger issue is that these outliers 1 or 2 kids are not going to be equipped for the higher level playing field at competitve colleges. I suspect the McKinley kids are going to struggle in this environment.

Let’s be clear—this isn’t some blanket endorsement of McKinley Tech as an institution. But the idea that the few students who do get into top-tier colleges are destined to flounder is narrow-minded and illogical. Competitive admissions teams aren’t in the business of setting students up to fail; they admit kids because they’ve seen the potential for success. Yes, the transition might be challenging, but these schools don’t admit students as charity cases—they admit them because they believe they’ll ultimately thrive.

Frankly, implying otherwise comes off as more condescending toward those students than insightful about their actual prospects.

No one said they are going to fail but the reality is that many kids in DC takes 4 or 5 years to even get a degree. Many others also just fail out or never finish and end up in major debt. That is just for your average college. It is not even for the top ones where the study body is much higher performing and coming from much more rigorous schools. These kids will struggle no matter how much summer programming there school offers or remedial classes or mentors they have. It is a fact. Some will get a degree and others might not.

Have you even talked to a high school teacher in one of these schools? Ask them.

Sure, maybe some kids have potential and no one is saying to set them up to fail. But not acknowledging that there is a big struggle and how poorly DCPS sets these kids up for college is not helping anyone. It is not condescending but reality.

This isn't Anacostia High School we're talking about. And even that kid did graduate from Georgetown, just slightly late.

Graduated late and what was the GPA? If you are gunning for med school, top law school, grad school a year of poor grades is not going to make up for the last 3 years to be competitive to get in even if you do well then.

Also for jobs at top competitive, coveted companies, they use a cut off GPA as screening. My brother interviews for a well known company.

I don't think "my brother works in HR" is the flex you think it is. And no, I don't know what some kid's GPA was and it's weird that you would ask that.

McKinley has the numbers it has because of the population it serves, not because it's failing to teach its students. Truancy rates are single-digits: higher than Banneker, lower than JR. (Anacostia's is 55%.) It's not unbelievable at all that there would be the occasional student who goes to an elite college and is well-prepared for it via a combination of school and extracurricular/summer programs.

PP here. No my brother doesn’t work in HR. He is in an upper management leadership position supervising teams and HR sends him the CV. You don’t actually think HR is the one hiring people at these big name companies.

Like colleges, the GPA will dictate if your CV is actually even considered to be reviewed as the 1st screening step of many steps.

I don’t believe you that you think a kid going thru Mckinley is actually going to be prepared for college. But hey, you do you.

Lol. OK. Now we're not just saying they're not prepared for elite college, but no one going to McKinley is prepared for college *at all*.

This is their math team, which last year tied for first place with Jackson Reed at a local competition: https://www.instagram.com/mckinleytech/p/C8aHswUPnt6/?__d=1&img_index=1

Yes, I think these kids are going to be prepared for college. And I think you know about as much about DCPS high schools as you know about what your brother at the "big name company" does for a living.

Sure, a lot go to college.

Here is where they go: Morgan State, NC A&T, NC Central, Temple, Delaware State, Howard, UDC, Clark Atlanta, GMU, Bowie State, Norfolk State, etc.

Here is where they go: Morgan State, NC A&T, NC Central, Temple, Delaware State, Howard, Clark Atlanta, GMU, Bowie State, and Norfolk State.

And sometimes, they go to elite colleges. One went to MIT, excelled, and is now at Hopkins.

You know nothing about this school or these kids.

Sounds like PP actually knows where the kids go to college.

You, on the other hand, are just citing some outlier kid from years ago that you heard about third hand.

Kudos to that kid but you are just lying if you are suggesting that this school regularly sends kids to elite colleges.

Eastern occasionally sends a kid to the Ivies too but most kids are functionally illiterate in reading and math there.

McKinley is not Eastern. You think every school with black kids is the same. And no one said they regularly send kids there, they occasionally send kids there and there's no reason to think they can't hack it. And yes, she's real and it's verifiable online but I'm not sending you there to harass her.