new Reade/Biden thread

Anonymous
So what should the new non partisan approach be going forward when a person (usually a woman) alleges sexual violence (usually by a man). I am using typical genders but they could be any

1. Provide the woman an opportunity to speak and share her story. Offer resources and support but suspend acknowledgement / belief in the validity of her story

2. Suspend judgment of the alleged perpetrator.

3. Explore the woman's background for evidence that supports or doesn't support her story. Look for witnesses or evidence as well as inconsistencies, discrepancies, alternative motivations, past actions, timelines and recall of details. Look for anything that supports or challenges her credibility.

4. Explore the man's background and look for evidence that supports or doesn't support her story. Talk to family and friends and past co-workers about the person's character and past actions. Explore any alibi or rebuttal the alleged perpetrator has given. Look for anything that supports or challenges his credibility.

5. Interpret and assess the above information through your own personal biases and experiences. If you feel they lean towards the evidence pointing to yes, then believe and support the woman, if not believe and support the man.

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Anonymous wrote:You people clamoring for an official investigation - Reade filed a police report weeks ago. Biden asked yesterday for all of the relevant documents to be searched for and released. How are those not official investigations? What else specifically do you want?

You know what they want. They want Ukraine to make motions about investigating Hunter Biden.

This is a political hit job.

So let’s move on and demand investigations into Donald’s many, many sexual assaults. He’s stalling on supplying his DNA for E. Jean Carroll’s suit. Why, do you think? Why would he stall if she isn’t right?


Really? You can't think of any good reasons why he may not want to bow to her every demand?

I can think of dozens. Beginning with.... she is a loon.


+1
Of all people with questionable tales and motives... E. Jean Carroll is at the top of the list.

The judge requiring Trump’s DNA disagreed.


What judge? You mean Carroll's lawyers?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So what should the new non partisan approach be going forward when a person (usually a woman) alleges sexual violence (usually by a man). I am using typical genders but they could be any

1. Provide the woman an opportunity to speak and share her story. Offer resources and support but suspend acknowledgement / belief in the validity of her story

2. Suspend judgment of the alleged perpetrator.

3. Explore the woman's background for evidence that supports or doesn't support her story. Look for witnesses or evidence as well as inconsistencies, discrepancies, alternative motivations, past actions, timelines and recall of details. Look for anything that supports or challenges her credibility.

4. Explore the man's background and look for evidence that supports or doesn't support her story. Talk to family and friends and past co-workers about the person's character and past actions. Explore any alibi or rebuttal the alleged perpetrator has given. Look for anything that supports or challenges his credibility.

5. Interpret and assess the above information through your own personal biases and experiences. If you feel they lean towards the evidence pointing to yes, then believe and support the woman, if not believe and support the man.


There is no non-partisan standard. Everyone will choose whatever benefits their candidate. This is what it means to live in a post-truth world.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:You people clamoring for an official investigation - Reade filed a police report weeks ago. Biden asked yesterday for all of the relevant documents to be searched for and released. How are those not official investigations? What else specifically do you want?

You know what they want. They want Ukraine to make motions about investigating Hunter Biden.

This is a political hit job.

So let’s move on and demand investigations into Donald’s many, many sexual assaults. He’s stalling on supplying his DNA for E. Jean Carroll’s suit. Why, do you think? Why would he stall if she isn’t right?


Really? You can't think of any good reasons why he may not want to bow to her every demand?

I can think of dozens. Beginning with.... she is a loon.


+1
Of all people with questionable tales and motives... E. Jean Carroll is at the top of the list.

The judge requiring Trump’s DNA disagreed.


What judge? You mean Carroll's lawyers?

The judge that allowed her case to go forward.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/e-jean-carroll-who-accused-trump-of-rape-reportedly-seeks-his-dna
Anonymous
Welp

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Welp




LOL.

Timing is everything.
I'm sure she has witnesses.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:You people clamoring for an official investigation - Reade filed a police report weeks ago. Biden asked yesterday for all of the relevant documents to be searched for and released. How are those not official investigations? What else specifically do you want?

You know what they want. They want Ukraine to make motions about investigating Hunter Biden.

This is a political hit job.

So let’s move on and demand investigations into Donald’s many, many sexual assaults. He’s stalling on supplying his DNA for E. Jean Carroll’s suit. Why, do you think? Why would he stall if she isn’t right?


Really? You can't think of any good reasons why he may not want to bow to her every demand?

I can think of dozens. Beginning with.... she is a loon.


+1
Of all people with questionable tales and motives... E. Jean Carroll is at the top of the list.

The judge requiring Trump’s DNA disagreed.


What judge? You mean Carroll's lawyers?

The judge that allowed her case to go forward.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/e-jean-carroll-who-accused-trump-of-rape-reportedly-seeks-his-dna


And, the DNA was of skin cells according to reports I have read. How is this supposed to prove anything.... considering the fact that the DNA of 3 other people was on the dress?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Welp




LOL.

Timing is everything.
I'm sure she has witnesses.


What's this now - 24? 25? How many people have given the same story of the same disgusting thing that disgusting Trump has done to them?

I am almost willing to guarantee that Trump was actually there on the day she's claiming to have been assaulted, too; he is very unlikely to have been in another state.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You people clamoring for an official investigation - Reade filed a police report weeks ago. Biden asked yesterday for all of the relevant documents to be searched for and released. How are those not official investigations? What else specifically do you want?

You know what they want. They want Ukraine to make motions about investigating Hunter Biden.

This is a political hit job.

So let’s move on and demand investigations into Donald’s many, many sexual assaults. He’s stalling on supplying his DNA for E. Jean Carroll’s suit. Why, do you think? Why would he stall if she isn’t right?


Really? You can't think of any good reasons why he may not want to bow to her every demand?

I can think of dozens. Beginning with.... she is a loon.


+1
Of all people with questionable tales and motives... E. Jean Carroll is at the top of the list.

The judge requiring Trump’s DNA disagreed.


What judge? You mean Carroll's lawyers?

The judge that allowed her case to go forward.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/e-jean-carroll-who-accused-trump-of-rape-reportedly-seeks-his-dna


And, the DNA was of skin cells according to reports I have read. How is this supposed to prove anything.... considering the fact that the DNA of 3 other people was on the dress?

He claims he never met her.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welp




LOL.

Timing is everything.
I'm sure she has witnesses.


What's this now - 24? 25? How many people have given the same story of the same disgusting thing that disgusting Trump has done to them?

I am almost willing to guarantee that Trump was actually there on the day she's claiming to have been assaulted, too; he is very unlikely to have been in another state.


It is very easy to make up a story similar to the others.
And, just to remind you of a few of those accusations.....

You can immediately cross Alva Johnson off your list. Her case was thrown out months ago when video surfaced and proved she was lying.
Another. woman included in count is Ivana Trump who put out an official statement years ago that everyone refuses to believe despite #BelieveAllWomen. Did they have a nasty divorce? YUP. But did she accuse him of rape? NOPE.
Jill Harth is an absolute joke. She was obssesed with Donald Trump and even offered to do a rally with him to show how great he was to women. She wanted to do his makeup but it never happened, but
Lisa Bloom got her mortgage paid and promoted her make up line.
And, we have E Jean Carroll who has DNA skin cells on the sleeve of a dress she says she hasn't worn in decades. DNA from 4 people. And, you expect this to prove something nefarious?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:You people clamoring for an official investigation - Reade filed a police report weeks ago. Biden asked yesterday for all of the relevant documents to be searched for and released. How are those not official investigations? What else specifically do you want?

You know what they want. They want Ukraine to make motions about investigating Hunter Biden.

This is a political hit job.

So let’s move on and demand investigations into Donald’s many, many sexual assaults. He’s stalling on supplying his DNA for E. Jean Carroll’s suit. Why, do you think? Why would he stall if she isn’t right?


Really? You can't think of any good reasons why he may not want to bow to her every demand?

I can think of dozens. Beginning with.... she is a loon.


+1
Of all people with questionable tales and motives... E. Jean Carroll is at the top of the list.

The judge requiring Trump’s DNA disagreed.


What judge? You mean Carroll's lawyers?

The judge that allowed her case to go forward.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/e-jean-carroll-who-accused-trump-of-rape-reportedly-seeks-his-dna


And, the DNA was of skin cells according to reports I have read. How is this supposed to prove anything.... considering the fact that the DNA of 3 other people was on the dress?

He claims he never met her.


If he did, it was likely at an event where he met a lot of people. As with any celebrity, you cannot expect him to remember every person he was ever introduced to.
I am not a celebrity, and I can't remember every one my spouse has introduced me to.
Anonymous
Back to the topic.....

She has stated that she is getting death threats. I hope she has security.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You people clamoring for an official investigation - Reade filed a police report weeks ago. Biden asked yesterday for all of the relevant documents to be searched for and released. How are those not official investigations? What else specifically do you want?

You know what they want. They want Ukraine to make motions about investigating Hunter Biden.

This is a political hit job.

So let’s move on and demand investigations into Donald’s many, many sexual assaults. He’s stalling on supplying his DNA for E. Jean Carroll’s suit. Why, do you think? Why would he stall if she isn’t right?


Really? You can't think of any good reasons why he may not want to bow to her every demand?

I can think of dozens. Beginning with.... she is a loon.


+1
Of all people with questionable tales and motives... E. Jean Carroll is at the top of the list.

The judge requiring Trump’s DNA disagreed.


What judge? You mean Carroll's lawyers?

The judge that allowed her case to go forward.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/e-jean-carroll-who-accused-trump-of-rape-reportedly-seeks-his-dna


And, the DNA was of skin cells according to reports I have read. How is this supposed to prove anything.... considering the fact that the DNA of 3 other people was on the dress?

He claims he never met her.


If he did, it was likely at an event where he met a lot of people. As with any celebrity, you cannot expect him to remember every person he was ever introduced to.
I am not a celebrity, and I can't remember every one my spouse has introduced me to.

That would be a question of fact for a jury to decide.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welp




LOL.

Timing is everything.
I'm sure she has witnesses.


She does, and she told people about it at the time and, she tried to tell people during the 2016 election cycle, but the media was more focused 'her emails'
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welp




LOL.

Timing is everything.
I'm sure she has witnesses.


What's this now - 24? 25? How many people have given the same story of the same disgusting thing that disgusting Trump has done to them?

I am almost willing to guarantee that Trump was actually there on the day she's claiming to have been assaulted, too; he is very unlikely to have been in another state.


The picture is basically when it happened.
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