Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

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Anonymous wrote:oh god, giant live links to Candace Owens (with a fox news advertisement below, whee). We really are living in the worst timeline.

Is Candace lying about the podcast where Ari attacks and bullies Justin disappearing? You don’t think that deeply suspicious?

That podcast was taken down??

Live podcast for Freakonomics. One of the most popular podcasts in the country had “trouble with the audio” and refused to publish the episode. Not suspicious at all!

[Anonymous]

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That said, the more I’m learning about how Sony was involved, I don’t think it was totally up to Wayfarer. I think they were under a lot of pressure from Sony and Sony is big time in bed with Reynolds. Which they might be regretting about now.

I'm sure, but I feel like "you have to let the director and co-star of the film walk the red carpet and have his name on the poster" is like a super reasonable line for Wayfarer to draw. I don't really follow the film industry but it seems unheard of to me. I'm sure much bigger names had bigger clashes and they had to suck it up and walk together. I'm sure actresses who were literally sexually assaulted by their director had to walk the red carpet with them, which is horrifying. Like, I don't think Blake Lively is that level of fame to demand that (and *get it*), so it's crazy to me.

I’ve pointed this out before, the directors who sexually assaulted the actresses don’t care about being branded and abuser. They would shrug it off.

Justin and Blake and Ryan had a unique power dynamic. They knew just starting a whisper campaign of leaks, getting out that he had fat shamed her, there was inappropriate behavior, people felt uncomfortable, they knew that would hit him where it hurts.

That it just got out of control.

Can you give an example of this? I don't think anyone shrugs it off anymore. I also think Baldoni could not just "shrug it off" because his entire public persona revolves around not being that guy. I personally think he would fight accusations of harassment or even just sexism very hard no matter what (even if they were 100% true) because they run so counter to how he presents himself to the public.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:oh god, giant live links to Candace Owens (with a fox news advertisement below, whee). We really are living in the worst timeline.

Is Candace lying about the podcast where Ari attacks and bullies Justin disappearing? You don’t think that deeply suspicious?

That podcast was taken down??

Live podcast for Freakonomics. One of the most popular podcasts in the country had “trouble with the audio” and refused to publish the episode. Not suspicious at all!

Recorded live Feb 13th
https://deadline.com/2025/02/blake-lively-ryan-reynolds-ari-emanuel-ride-or-die-1236289420/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That's bananas. The expression "with teeth" has existed a long time and is used in regular conversation to mean something that is especially forceful or aggressive, with the potential for real impact - as though one was bit. We use this in our law office and nobody is talking about blow jobs or thinks they are talking about blow jobs.

To be fair, it's "with teeth" in the same sentence as "balls" or "ball busting." I called it a spicy comment above. I do think it tends to a sexual connotation but she can argue otherwise. Not a smoking gun either way, but I wouldn't consider it the same as saying a motion to dismiss has teeth.

She also uses “yummy” in that discussion. No one has demanded that she be a mythical perfect victim. Blake lively is a liar with a decades earned shit reputation.

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Baldoni did walk the red carpet at the movie premiere. There are plenty of pictures of him. He and Blake weren’t on the red carpet at the same time but they entered the same way with the same press and photogs.

Also he didn’t spend the premiere in the basement and Blake didn’t banish him to a basement. He watched it in a theatre just like everyone else, but a different theatre.

[Anonymous]

I love that she’s already lost this. The inane essays will be published and the “lawyers” Will make idiotic claims. But she’s done. The only question is whether she and rat Ryan divorce.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Baldoni did walk the red carpet at the movie premiere. There are plenty of pictures of him. He and Blake weren’t on the red carpet at the same time but they entered the same way with the same press and photogs.

Also he didn’t spend the premiere in the basement and Blake didn’t banish him to a basement. He watched it in a theatre just like everyone else, but a different theatre.

I think when you look at the Don't Worry Darling premiere where the tension between Pugh and Wilde was pretty palpable and it created a lot of weird scrutiny of every minor interaction (google "don't worry darling spit Venice premiere"), you can see why a divided premiere might actually have been preferable. I mean yes people noticed, but only eagle eyed fans who were somewhat obsessed. I had no idea whatsoever and only heard about this whole thing for the first time from Baldoni's complaint. I can see why he'd be upset but I can also see a strong argument from a marketing perspective for doing it the way they did. It maximized the chances of focus being on the movie as opposed to cast drama.

I'll note Don't Worry Darling was not very successful. It made 88m and was made for 35m. Compare that to IEWU which was a major box office success. Obviously they did something right with the marketing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Baldoni did walk the red carpet at the movie premiere. There are plenty of pictures of him. He and Blake weren’t on the red carpet at the same time but they entered the same way with the same press and photogs.

Also he didn’t spend the premiere in the basement and Blake didn’t banish him to a basement. He watched it in a theatre just like everyone else, but a different theatre.

Separate but equal.

Yes, that’s always worked in the past.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That said, the more I’m learning about how Sony was involved, I don’t think it was totally up to Wayfarer. I think they were under a lot of pressure from Sony and Sony is big time in bed with Reynolds. Which they might be regretting about now.

I'm sure, but I feel like "you have to let the director and co-star of the film walk the red carpet and have his name on the poster" is like a super reasonable line for Wayfarer to draw. I don't really follow the film industry but it seems unheard of to me. I'm sure much bigger names had bigger clashes and they had to suck it up and walk together. I'm sure actresses who were literally sexually assaulted by their director had to walk the red carpet with them, which is horrifying. Like, I don't think Blake Lively is that level of fame to demand that (and *get it*), so it's crazy to me.

I’ve pointed this out before, the directors who sexually assaulted the actresses don’t care about being branded and abuser. They would shrug it off.

Justin and Blake and Ryan had a unique power dynamic. They knew just starting a whisper campaign of leaks, getting out that he had fat shamed her, there was inappropriate behavior, people felt uncomfortable, they knew that would hit him where it hurts.

That it just got out of control.

Can you give an example of this? I don't think anyone shrugs it off anymore. I also think Baldoni could not just "shrug it off" because his entire public persona revolves around not being that guy. I personally think he would fight accusations of harassment or even just sexism very hard no matter what (even if they were 100% true) because they run so counter to how he presents himself to the public.

Yes, it is shrugged off all the time and we are naive to think otherwise. For every Harvey Weinstein that goes down after years of investigation and multiple women coming forward, there are dozens of males in Hollywood that get away with it and keep working.

Do you honestly think there there is no sexual assault or sexual harassment in Hollywood? Or corporate America? That we’ve rooted it all out because of me too?

A recent example is Abigail Breslin just came out publicly and said Aaron Eckhart assaulted her on set. Didn’t sound sexual in nature, more he has a temper and an action scenes abused her. Aaron Eckhart is still working in Hollywood.

But that’s not the problem. The problem is for every Abigail that comes forward to bravely tell a story there are dozens of women who are staying silent because they fear for their careers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Baldoni did walk the red carpet at the movie premiere. There are plenty of pictures of him. He and Blake weren’t on the red carpet at the same time but they entered the same way with the same press and photogs.

Also he didn’t spend the premiere in the basement and Blake didn’t banish him to a basement. He watched it in a theatre just like everyone else, but a different theatre.

I think when you look at the Don't Worry Darling premiere where the tension between Pugh and Wilde was pretty palpable and it created a lot of weird scrutiny of every minor interaction (google "don't worry darling spit Venice premiere"), you can see why a divided premiere might actually have been preferable. I mean yes people noticed, but only eagle eyed fans who were somewhat obsessed. I had no idea whatsoever and only heard about this whole thing for the first time from Baldoni's complaint. I can see why he'd be upset but I can also see a strong argument from a marketing perspective for doing it the way they did. It maximized the chances of focus being on the movie as opposed to cast drama.

I'll note Don't Worry Darling was not very successful. It made 88m and was made for 35m. Compare that to IEWU which was a major box office success. Obviously they did something right with the marketing.

Sorry to prove the Groundhog Day posters point above, but as it’s been pointing out, Colleen Hoover books are wildly successful and this movie was probably going to be at least reasonably successful no matter who started it. You also can’t discount the fact that Taylor Swift song was involved in the marketing and that was huge.

Blake can take some credit for this of course, but it’s not fair to say it was Blake and controversial marketing that made this money. It had a ton going for it.

I’ll add I’ve seen a ton of pictures of Josh Hartnett and Anne Hathaway on set of Verity. And I believe that’s going to be streaming and it’s already getting a ton of buzz. Her fans are really excited about these books being made into movies.

It’s kind of like saying wow Kristen Stewart was the reason the twilight films were so successful. I’ll give her some credit for playing Bella, but she had the power of a very powerful franchise behind her.

[Anonymous]

A recent example is Abigail Breslin just came out publicly and said Aaron Eckhart assaulted her on set. Didn’t sound sexual in nature, more he has a temper and an action scenes abused her. Aaron Eckhart is still working in Hollywood.

Hadn't heard of this one. Another rabbit hole to go down, hah.

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/abigail-breslin-aaron-eckhart-lawsuit-1234869196/

Looks like unlike Wayfarer, the studio did conduct the investigation, but found nothing, and was counterclaiming against her for the cost of accommodating her, yikes. And there's also an issue here of her not signing her contract but it says final agreement.

[Anonymous]

A recent example is Abigail Breslin just came out publicly and said Aaron Eckhart assaulted her on set. Didn’t sound sexual in nature, more he has a temper and an action scenes abused her. Aaron Eckhart is still working in Hollywood.

Hadn't heard of this one. Another rabbit hole to go down, hah.

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/abigail-breslin-aaron-eckhart-lawsuit-1234869196/

Looks like unlike Wayfarer, the studio did conduct the investigation, but found nothing, and was counterclaiming against her for the cost of accommodating her, yikes. And there's also an issue here of her not signing her contract but it says final agreement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Baldoni did walk the red carpet at the movie premiere. There are plenty of pictures of him. He and Blake weren’t on the red carpet at the same time but they entered the same way with the same press and photogs.

Also he didn’t spend the premiere in the basement and Blake didn’t banish him to a basement. He watched it in a theatre just like everyone else, but a different theatre.

I think when you look at the Don't Worry Darling premiere where the tension between Pugh and Wilde was pretty palpable and it created a lot of weird scrutiny of every minor interaction (google "don't worry darling spit Venice premiere"), you can see why a divided premiere might actually have been preferable. I mean yes people noticed, but only eagle eyed fans who were somewhat obsessed. I had no idea whatsoever and only heard about this whole thing for the first time from Baldoni's complaint. I can see why he'd be upset but I can also see a strong argument from a marketing perspective for doing it the way they did. It maximized the chances of focus being on the movie as opposed to cast drama.

I'll note Don't Worry Darling was not very successful. It made 88m and was made for 35m. Compare that to IEWU which was a major box office success. Obviously they did something right with the marketing.

It made money because it had a built in audience since it was based on a bestselling book.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That said, the more I’m learning about how Sony was involved, I don’t think it was totally up to Wayfarer. I think they were under a lot of pressure from Sony and Sony is big time in bed with Reynolds. Which they might be regretting about now.

I'm sure, but I feel like "you have to let the director and co-star of the film walk the red carpet and have his name on the poster" is like a super reasonable line for Wayfarer to draw. I don't really follow the film industry but it seems unheard of to me. I'm sure much bigger names had bigger clashes and they had to suck it up and walk together. I'm sure actresses who were literally sexually assaulted by their director had to walk the red carpet with them, which is horrifying. Like, I don't think Blake Lively is that level of fame to demand that (and *get it*), so it's crazy to me.

I’ve pointed this out before, the directors who sexually assaulted the actresses don’t care about being branded and abuser. They would shrug it off.

Justin and Blake and Ryan had a unique power dynamic. They knew just starting a whisper campaign of leaks, getting out that he had fat shamed her, there was inappropriate behavior, people felt uncomfortable, they knew that would hit him where it hurts.

That it just got out of control.

Can you give an example of this? I don't think anyone shrugs it off anymore. I also think Baldoni could not just "shrug it off" because his entire public persona revolves around not being that guy. I personally think he would fight accusations of harassment or even just sexism very hard no matter what (even if they were 100% true) because they run so counter to how he presents himself to the public.

Yes, it is shrugged off all the time and we are naive to think otherwise. For every Harvey Weinstein that goes down after years of investigation and multiple women coming forward, there are dozens of males in Hollywood that get away with it and keep working.

Do you honestly think there there is no sexual assault or sexual harassment in Hollywood? Or corporate America? That we’ve rooted it all out because of me too?

A recent example is Abigail Breslin just came out publicly and said Aaron Eckhart assaulted her on set. Didn’t sound sexual in nature, more he has a temper and an action scenes abused her. Aaron Eckhart is still working in Hollywood.

But that’s not the problem. The problem is for every Abigail that comes forward to bravely tell a story there are dozens of women who are staying silent because they fear for their careers.

This doesn't go to what I asked. You said that if Baldoni were an abuser, he'd shrug off the allegations, not deny them. Has Eckhardt shrugged off the allegations? I can't thing if anyone accused of sexual harassment who has shrugged off allegations. They always deny them. Recently Neil Gaiman was accused of some very disturbing harassing/assaulting behavior towards a former nanny and several other women. His response has been to deny that it was assault or harassment and say that, in context, the behavior was consensual and appropriate. And also to argue that people who believe his accusers just don't understand that context, including his unconventional sexual habits. But he hasn't shrugged it off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Baldoni did walk the red carpet at the movie premiere. There are plenty of pictures of him. He and Blake weren’t on the red carpet at the same time but they entered the same way with the same press and photogs.

Also he didn’t spend the premiere in the basement and Blake didn’t banish him to a basement. He watched it in a theatre just like everyone else, but a different theatre.

I think when you look at the Don't Worry Darling premiere where the tension between Pugh and Wilde was pretty palpable and it created a lot of weird scrutiny of every minor interaction (google "don't worry darling spit Venice premiere"), you can see why a divided premiere might actually have been preferable. I mean yes people noticed, but only eagle eyed fans who were somewhat obsessed. I had no idea whatsoever and only heard about this whole thing for the first time from Baldoni's complaint. I can see why he'd be upset but I can also see a strong argument from a marketing perspective for doing it the way they did. It maximized the chances of focus being on the movie as opposed to cast drama.

I'll note Don't Worry Darling was not very successful. It made 88m and was made for 35m. Compare that to IEWU which was a major box office success. Obviously they did something right with the marketing.

Sorry to prove the Groundhog Day posters point above, but as it’s been pointing out, Colleen Hoover books are wildly successful and this movie was probably going to be at least reasonably successful no matter who started it. You also can’t discount the fact that Taylor Swift song was involved in the marketing and that was huge.

Blake can take some credit for this of course, but it’s not fair to say it was Blake and controversial marketing that made this money. It had a ton going for it.

I’ll add I’ve seen a ton of pictures of Josh Hartnett and Anne Hathaway on set of Verity. And I believe that’s going to be streaming and it’s already getting a ton of buzz. Her fans are really excited about these books being made into movies.

It’s kind of like saying wow Kristen Stewart was the reason the twilight films were so successful. I’ll give her some credit for playing Bella, but she had the power of a very powerful franchise behind her.

Kristen Stewart was a relative unknown before twilight. Those movies are what made her super famous. Lively is much more established than Stewart was when she made those movies.

Hoover books are popular but not juggernauts. And adaptations of popular books can fail even with great casts and directors. The Lovely Bones was a bestselling book and Peter Jackson directed, with Saiorse Ronan and Stanley Tucci starring. It flopped. Beautiful Creatures was based on a recent bestseller and did so poorly they cancelled two planned sequels. A bestselling novel is not a guarantee of film success.

Also, IEWU made most of its money (like 2/3 of the box office) abroad. Lively attended both the London and Denmark premiers. This would back up a claim that her star power, especially overseas, helped the movie. I'm sure Hoover's books have been translated but are they bestsellers overseas the way they are here?