DOJ, RIP

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Anonymous wrote:‘It’s a Culture Now of Fear’: A Year of Chaos Inside the Justice Department

Sixty former staffers described an environment of suspicion and intimidation within the most powerful law enforcement agency in the U.S.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/11/16/magazine/trump-justice-department-staff-attorneys.html

“If we’re indicting people because the president hates them, that’s counter to the whole point of doing my job.”

Mike Romano, former prosecutor in the Public Integrity Section


Of all the government agencies, I would say that the people at DOJ are probably the worst off currently. Lose their job or risk eventually getting disbarred for doing what this administration tells them to do...
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Anonymous wrote:‘It’s a Culture Now of Fear’: A Year of Chaos Inside the Justice Department

Sixty former staffers described an environment of suspicion and intimidation within the most powerful law enforcement agency in the U.S.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/11/16/magazine/trump-justice-department-staff-attorneys.html

“If we’re indicting people because the president hates them, that’s counter to the whole point of doing my job.”

Mike Romano, former prosecutor in the Public Integrity Section


Of all the government agencies, I would say that the people at DOJ are probably the worst off currently. Lose their job or risk eventually getting disbarred for doing what this administration tells them to do...


I resigned from my AUSA position this year, so I have thoughts on this. I do think DOJ lawyers find themselves in truly unprecedented ethical dilemmas in a way that has never happened before, but at the same time they also generally have excellent exit options. No one at DOJ is being forced to choose between letting their child go hungry and lying to a judge. I think that's precisely so many DOJ lawyers have left - their next best alternative is still pretty good.
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Anonymous wrote:‘It’s a Culture Now of Fear’: A Year of Chaos Inside the Justice Department

Sixty former staffers described an environment of suspicion and intimidation within the most powerful law enforcement agency in the U.S.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/11/16/magazine/trump-justice-department-staff-attorneys.html

“If we’re indicting people because the president hates them, that’s counter to the whole point of doing my job.”

Mike Romano, former prosecutor in the Public Integrity Section


Of all the government agencies, I would say that the people at DOJ are probably the worst off currently. Lose their job or risk eventually getting disbarred for doing what this administration tells them to do...


I resigned from my AUSA position this year, so I have thoughts on this. I do think DOJ lawyers find themselves in truly unprecedented ethical dilemmas in a way that has never happened before, but at the same time they also generally have excellent exit options. No one at DOJ is being forced to choose between letting their child go hungry and lying to a judge. I think that's precisely so many DOJ lawyers have left - their next best alternative is still pretty good.

Exactly. The attorneys whom choose to ride it out and stay agree with Trump and Bondi.
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Anonymous wrote:‘It’s a Culture Now of Fear’: A Year of Chaos Inside the Justice Department

Sixty former staffers described an environment of suspicion and intimidation within the most powerful law enforcement agency in the U.S.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/11/16/magazine/trump-justice-department-staff-attorneys.html

“If we’re indicting people because the president hates them, that’s counter to the whole point of doing my job.”

Mike Romano, former prosecutor in the Public Integrity Section


Of all the government agencies, I would say that the people at DOJ are probably the worst off currently. Lose their job or risk eventually getting disbarred for doing what this administration tells them to do...


I resigned from my AUSA position this year, so I have thoughts on this. I do think DOJ lawyers find themselves in truly unprecedented ethical dilemmas in a way that has never happened before, but at the same time they also generally have excellent exit options. No one at DOJ is being forced to choose between letting their child go hungry and lying to a judge. I think that's precisely so many DOJ lawyers have left - their next best alternative is still pretty good.

Exactly. The attorneys whom choose to ride it out and stay agree with Trump and Bondi.


Maybe some of them, but the majority of those still at DOJ continue to believe in the mission and justice, and are doing that. There is still plenty of room to do the job without running into those sorts of unethical issues that would force a resignation. This is good for the country as a whole, btw, not just those attorneys. In 3 years, we will still want to have a DOJ and it would be good to be able to have an existing one rather than have to build/rebuild it from scratch.
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“Amid a growing wave of firings, resignations and retirements from the Justice Department, some former agency officials are curating a public online display of the farewell messages of ousted employees. Some of the letters from purged non-political career Justice Department attorneys warn of a threat to democracy and a crumbling of the norms and standards in federal prosecutions.
Justice Connection, a group of former Justice Department employees, has organized and posted the online page of goodbye messages. The organization's executive director and founder, Stacey Young, a former civil division attorney for the Justice Department, said the Justice Department purge has now eclipsed 5,000 employees since January, including resignations, firings and retirements.”
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-justice-dept-resignation-letters-chronicled/
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Anonymous wrote:‘It’s a Culture Now of Fear’: A Year of Chaos Inside the Justice Department

Sixty former staffers described an environment of suspicion and intimidation within the most powerful law enforcement agency in the U.S.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/11/16/magazine/trump-justice-department-staff-attorneys.html

“If we’re indicting people because the president hates them, that’s counter to the whole point of doing my job.”

Mike Romano, former prosecutor in the Public Integrity Section


Of all the government agencies, I would say that the people at DOJ are probably the worst off currently. Lose their job or risk eventually getting disbarred for doing what this administration tells them to do...


I resigned from my AUSA position this year, so I have thoughts on this. I do think DOJ lawyers find themselves in truly unprecedented ethical dilemmas in a way that has never happened before, but at the same time they also generally have excellent exit options. No one at DOJ is being forced to choose between letting their child go hungry and lying to a judge. I think that's precisely so many DOJ lawyers have left - their next best alternative is still pretty good.

Exactly. The attorneys whom choose to ride it out and stay agree with Trump and Bondi.


This is absolutely untrue. Many choose to stay because they believe the institution cannot lose everyone committed to doing the job the right way.
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Anonymous wrote:‘It’s a Culture Now of Fear’: A Year of Chaos Inside the Justice Department

Sixty former staffers described an environment of suspicion and intimidation within the most powerful law enforcement agency in the U.S.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/11/16/magazine/trump-justice-department-staff-attorneys.html

“If we’re indicting people because the president hates them, that’s counter to the whole point of doing my job.”

Mike Romano, former prosecutor in the Public Integrity Section


Of all the government agencies, I would say that the people at DOJ are probably the worst off currently. Lose their job or risk eventually getting disbarred for doing what this administration tells them to do...


I resigned from my AUSA position this year, so I have thoughts on this. I do think DOJ lawyers find themselves in truly unprecedented ethical dilemmas in a way that has never happened before, but at the same time they also generally have excellent exit options. No one at DOJ is being forced to choose between letting their child go hungry and lying to a judge. I think that's precisely so many DOJ lawyers have left - their next best alternative is still pretty good.

Exactly. The attorneys whom choose to ride it out and stay agree with Trump and Bondi.


This is absolutely untrue. Many choose to stay because they believe the institution cannot lose everyone committed to doing the job the right way.

The longer they stay, the less credibility they have with the courts and the public. Some judges are beginning to question DOJ attorneys’ veracity on the record. That’s not a good look. It used to be that the court often gave DOJ the benefit of the doubt and something defense attorneys had to overcome. The tides are turning.
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Anonymous wrote:‘It’s a Culture Now of Fear’: A Year of Chaos Inside the Justice Department

Sixty former staffers described an environment of suspicion and intimidation within the most powerful law enforcement agency in the U.S.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/11/16/magazine/trump-justice-department-staff-attorneys.html

“If we’re indicting people because the president hates them, that’s counter to the whole point of doing my job.”

Mike Romano, former prosecutor in the Public Integrity Section


Of all the government agencies, I would say that the people at DOJ are probably the worst off currently. Lose their job or risk eventually getting disbarred for doing what this administration tells them to do...


I resigned from my AUSA position this year, so I have thoughts on this. I do think DOJ lawyers find themselves in truly unprecedented ethical dilemmas in a way that has never happened before, but at the same time they also generally have excellent exit options. No one at DOJ is being forced to choose between letting their child go hungry and lying to a judge. I think that's precisely so many DOJ lawyers have left - their next best alternative is still pretty good.


Plus, it’s like a social feat - badge of pride when you resign. No explanation necessary because the ENTIRE country is following the saga. Even Grandma gets it.
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Anonymous wrote:‘It’s a Culture Now of Fear’: A Year of Chaos Inside the Justice Department

Sixty former staffers described an environment of suspicion and intimidation within the most powerful law enforcement agency in the U.S.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/11/16/magazine/trump-justice-department-staff-attorneys.html

“If we’re indicting people because the president hates them, that’s counter to the whole point of doing my job.”

Mike Romano, former prosecutor in the Public Integrity Section


Of all the government agencies, I would say that the people at DOJ are probably the worst off currently. Lose their job or risk eventually getting disbarred for doing what this administration tells them to do...


I resigned from my AUSA position this year, so I have thoughts on this. I do think DOJ lawyers find themselves in truly unprecedented ethical dilemmas in a way that has never happened before, but at the same time they also generally have excellent exit options. No one at DOJ is being forced to choose between letting their child go hungry and lying to a judge. I think that's precisely so many DOJ lawyers have left - their next best alternative is still pretty good.


Plus, it’s like a social feat - badge of pride when you resign. No explanation necessary because the ENTIRE country is following the saga. Even Grandma gets it.


But it is also brave to stay the course and refuse to violate ethics -- make them fire you for doing the right thing. Get the illegal orders on the record.
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Anonymous wrote:‘It’s a Culture Now of Fear’: A Year of Chaos Inside the Justice Department

Sixty former staffers described an environment of suspicion and intimidation within the most powerful law enforcement agency in the U.S.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/11/16/magazine/trump-justice-department-staff-attorneys.html

“If we’re indicting people because the president hates them, that’s counter to the whole point of doing my job.”

Mike Romano, former prosecutor in the Public Integrity Section


Of all the government agencies, I would say that the people at DOJ are probably the worst off currently. Lose their job or risk eventually getting disbarred for doing what this administration tells them to do...


I resigned from my AUSA position this year, so I have thoughts on this. I do think DOJ lawyers find themselves in truly unprecedented ethical dilemmas in a way that has never happened before, but at the same time they also generally have excellent exit options. No one at DOJ is being forced to choose between letting their child go hungry and lying to a judge. I think that's precisely so many DOJ lawyers have left - their next best alternative is still pretty good.


Plus, it’s like a social feat - badge of pride when you resign. No explanation necessary because the ENTIRE country is following the saga. Even Grandma gets it.


But it is also brave to stay the course and refuse to violate ethics -- make them fire you for doing the right thing. Get the illegal orders on the record.


Say that to the face of the person who is in there. Watch his/her reaction when you call them brave.

My guess is that you were not /and you are not in these workplaces now. You do not know what you do not know.

I don’t tell people what to do as a matter of course—or persuade them one way or the other. This is very hard on people.
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Anonymous wrote:‘It’s a Culture Now of Fear’: A Year of Chaos Inside the Justice Department

Sixty former staffers described an environment of suspicion and intimidation within the most powerful law enforcement agency in the U.S.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/11/16/magazine/trump-justice-department-staff-attorneys.html

“If we’re indicting people because the president hates them, that’s counter to the whole point of doing my job.”

Mike Romano, former prosecutor in the Public Integrity Section


Of all the government agencies, I would say that the people at DOJ are probably the worst off currently. Lose their job or risk eventually getting disbarred for doing what this administration tells them to do...


I resigned from my AUSA position this year, so I have thoughts on this. I do think DOJ lawyers find themselves in truly unprecedented ethical dilemmas in a way that has never happened before, but at the same time they also generally have excellent exit options. No one at DOJ is being forced to choose between letting their child go hungry and lying to a judge. I think that's precisely so many DOJ lawyers have left - their next best alternative is still pretty good.


Plus, it’s like a social feat - badge of pride when you resign. No explanation necessary because the ENTIRE country is following the saga. Even Grandma gets it.


But it is also brave to stay the course and refuse to violate ethics -- make them fire you for doing the right thing. Get the illegal orders on the record.


Say that to the face of the person who is in there. Watch his/her reaction when you call them brave.

My guess is that you were not /and you are not in these workplaces now. You do not know what you do not know.

I don’t tell people what to do as a matter of course—or persuade them one way or the other. This is very hard on people.


I do understand and would never presume to tell anyone what to do. My point (of support) was simply that there is bravey in those who stay as well, unlke the presumed ill motives assigend by other PPs.
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Anonymous wrote:‘It’s a Culture Now of Fear’: A Year of Chaos Inside the Justice Department

Sixty former staffers described an environment of suspicion and intimidation within the most powerful law enforcement agency in the U.S.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/11/16/magazine/trump-justice-department-staff-attorneys.html

“If we’re indicting people because the president hates them, that’s counter to the whole point of doing my job.”

Mike Romano, former prosecutor in the Public Integrity Section


Of all the government agencies, I would say that the people at DOJ are probably the worst off currently. Lose their job or risk eventually getting disbarred for doing what this administration tells them to do...


I resigned from my AUSA position this year, so I have thoughts on this. I do think DOJ lawyers find themselves in truly unprecedented ethical dilemmas in a way that has never happened before, but at the same time they also generally have excellent exit options. No one at DOJ is being forced to choose between letting their child go hungry and lying to a judge. I think that's precisely so many DOJ lawyers have left - their next best alternative is still pretty good.


Plus, it’s like a social feat - badge of pride when you resign. No explanation necessary because the ENTIRE country is following the saga. Even Grandma gets it.


But it is also brave to stay the course and refuse to violate ethics -- make them fire you for doing the right thing. Get the illegal orders on the record.


Say that to the face of the person who is in there. Watch his/her reaction when you call them brave.

My guess is that you were not /and you are not in these workplaces now. You do not know what you do not know.

I don’t tell people what to do as a matter of course—or persuade them one way or the other. This is very hard on people.


I do understand and would never presume to tell anyone what to do. My point (of support) was simply that there is bravey in those who stay as well, unlke the presumed ill motives assigend by other PPs.

Martyrdom is wasted on fools.
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