Navy Elementary New Principal

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/topics/sites/topics/files/assets/documents/pdf/county-org-chart.pdf

ORG chart of Fairfax. We the residents are on top. The School System exists to serve the residents to the best usage of its resources. Surely, we can’t get everything we ask for, but our collective opinions should be the biggest weight in deciding what is done.

You vote and can share your input with the school board. That is the extent of your role as “boss” of the schools. It’s crazy how people can say with a straight face that they “pay your salaries.” - not a teacher.

Where do teacher salary come from?

Tax payer.

So the tax payer do pay the salary, but teacher not directly accountable to the tax payer.

It no different that customer of company and worker salary.

Customer always right?

Your reasoning and your writing are very poor. Schools are not a business. You fund government with your taxes but you do not supervise government employees employees.

You using rhetoric to attack, but do not explain the differnt.

I buy product from company but I do not supervise company employee. School is also product.

Customer and tax payer are both stakeholder. Business and government have stakeholder who must be satisfy or product is failure.

Stakeholder has say in the product. Stakeholder can take money elsewhere to different company/school system. Stakeholder can vote new board of director/school board. Stakeholder can use influence to change mind of other stakeholder, and worker. You think they have no power?:

Very ignorance.

Also English not first language, but I use simple word because this very simple logic.

[Anonymous]

I’d like to know what parents were on the committee in the summer that voted this new guy in. Wtf were they thinking??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/topics/sites/topics/files/assets/documents/pdf/county-org-chart.pdf

ORG chart of Fairfax. We the residents are on top. The School System exists to serve the residents to the best usage of its resources. Surely, we can’t get everything we ask for, but our collective opinions should be the biggest weight in deciding what is done.

You vote and can share your input with the school board. That is the extent of your role as “boss” of the schools. It’s crazy how people can say with a straight face that they “pay your salaries.” - not a teacher.

Where do teacher salary come from?

Tax payer.

So the tax payer do pay the salary, but teacher not directly accountable to the tax payer.

It no different that customer of company and worker salary.

Customer always right?

Your reasoning and your writing are very poor. Schools are not a business. You fund government with your taxes but you do not supervise government employees employees.

You using rhetoric to attack, but do not explain the differnt.

I buy product from company but I do not supervise company employee. School is also product.

Customer and tax payer are both stakeholder. Business and government have stakeholder who must be satisfy or product is failure.

Stakeholder has say in the product. Stakeholder can take money elsewhere to different company/school system. Stakeholder can vote new board of director/school board. Stakeholder can use influence to change mind of other stakeholder, and worker. You think they have no power?:

Very ignorance.

Also English not first language, but I use simple word because this very simple logic.

NP. You are welcome to buy or not buy a product from a private company. Their incentive is maximizing profit, and so it is in their interest to make as many customers as possible as happy as possible to motivate them to buy more and/or draw in additional customers. A bunch of customers decide to stop buying their products? That's probably a big problem for them, depending on their margins, and likely also indicative that their value proposition is missing the market (or segments thereof) and need to adjust accordingly.

Public schools are a social good. Everyone pays taxes, even people without kids. They aren't there just to make the parents happy. A bunch of parents are unsatisfied with it want to send their kids to a private school? Fine. The school keeps operating the same. They are there to serve what professional educators do their level best to determine is in the collective best interest of the citizens (parents, students, teachers, everyone), not worry about making individual parents exceptionally happy or being responsive to their vastly differing opinions. Sure, if like 10-20% of FFX public students dropped out they might wonder if they need to make some accommodations, but even during an event as severe as COVID something like only 5% of students withdrew (and at least half have since returned). The schools are fine. If you are unhappy, the best way to make change is probably to constructively build relationships and work via your neighborhood civic associations, PTA, and school board members.

But trying to compare social goods to private capitalist enterprises and expecting similar dynamics to play out in their marketplaces is a fool's errand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/topics/sites/topics/files/assets/documents/pdf/county-org-chart.pdf

ORG chart of Fairfax. We the residents are on top. The School System exists to serve the residents to the best usage of its resources. Surely, we can’t get everything we ask for, but our collective opinions should be the biggest weight in deciding what is done.

You vote and can share your input with the school board. That is the extent of your role as “boss” of the schools. It’s crazy how people can say with a straight face that they “pay your salaries.” - not a teacher.

Where do teacher salary come from?

Tax payer.

So the tax payer do pay the salary, but teacher not directly accountable to the tax payer.

It no different that customer of company and worker salary.

Customer always right?

haha let's do the math and see how much of the salary you really pay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/topics/sites/topics/files/assets/documents/pdf/county-org-chart.pdf

ORG chart of Fairfax. We the residents are on top. The School System exists to serve the residents to the best usage of its resources. Surely, we can’t get everything we ask for, but our collective opinions should be the biggest weight in deciding what is done.

You vote and can share your input with the school board. That is the extent of your role as “boss” of the schools. It’s crazy how people can say with a straight face that they “pay your salaries.” - not a teacher.

Where do teacher salary come from?

Tax payer.

So the tax payer do pay the salary, but teacher not directly accountable to the tax payer.

It no different that customer of company and worker salary.

Customer always right?

Your reasoning and your writing are very poor. Schools are not a business. You fund government with your taxes but you do not supervise government employees employees.

You using rhetoric to attack, but do not explain the differnt.

I buy product from company but I do not supervise company employee. School is also product.

Customer and tax payer are both stakeholder. Business and government have stakeholder who must be satisfy or product is failure.

Stakeholder has say in the product. Stakeholder can take money elsewhere to different company/school system. Stakeholder can vote new board of director/school board. Stakeholder can use influence to change mind of other stakeholder, and worker. You think they have no power?:

Very ignorance.

Also English not first language, but I use simple word because this very simple logic.

NP. You are welcome to buy or not buy a product from a private company. Their incentive is maximizing profit, and so it is in their interest to make as many customers as possible as happy as possible to motivate them to buy more and/or draw in additional customers. A bunch of customers decide to stop buying their products? That's probably a big problem for them, depending on their margins, and likely also indicative that their value proposition is missing the market (or segments thereof) and need to adjust accordingly.

Public schools are a social good. Everyone pays taxes, even people without kids. They aren't there just to make the parents happy. A bunch of parents are unsatisfied with it want to send their kids to a private school? Fine. The school keeps operating the same. They are there to serve what professional educators do their level best to determine is in the collective best interest of the citizens (parents, students, teachers, everyone), not worry about making individual parents exceptionally happy or being responsive to their vastly differing opinions. Sure, if like 10-20% of FFX public students dropped out they might wonder if they need to make some accommodations, but even during an event as severe as COVID something like only 5% of students withdrew (and at least half have since returned). The schools are fine. If you are unhappy, the best way to make change is probably to constructively build relationships and work via your neighborhood civic associations, PTA, and school board members.

But trying to compare social goods to private capitalist enterprises and expecting similar dynamics to play out in their marketplaces is a fool's errand.

DP. Thanks for the response and you are welcome to have this point of view. But, teachers cannot exist without the taxpayer, the school board doesn’t exist if not for the parents who voted them in. Parents and taxpayers CAN exist without FCPS. Your premise of having the taxpayer beholden to “professional educators” is one that is not accepted by a large number of people. And you should know this. Quite a few of the administrators in FFX are downright awful and prejudiced, and simply don’t know my children like I do. If the cost is nothing why not choose the decision that makes the most people (parents included) happy? The way you phrased it seemed to imply that this is a one sum game.

[Anonymous]

Forgot in add Bring back Coch!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/topics/sites/topics/files/assets/documents/pdf/county-org-chart.pdf

ORG chart of Fairfax. We the residents are on top. The School System exists to serve the residents to the best usage of its resources. Surely, we can’t get everything we ask for, but our collective opinions should be the biggest weight in deciding what is done.

You vote and can share your input with the school board. That is the extent of your role as “boss” of the schools. It’s crazy how people can say with a straight face that they “pay your salaries.” - not a teacher.

Where do teacher salary come from?

Tax payer.

So the tax payer do pay the salary, but teacher not directly accountable to the tax payer.

It no different that customer of company and worker salary.

Customer always right?

Your reasoning and your writing are very poor. Schools are not a business. You fund government with your taxes but you do not supervise government employees employees.

You using rhetoric to attack, but do not explain the differnt.

I buy product from company but I do not supervise company employee. School is also product.

Customer and tax payer are both stakeholder. Business and government have stakeholder who must be satisfy or product is failure.

Stakeholder has say in the product. Stakeholder can take money elsewhere to different company/school system. Stakeholder can vote new board of director/school board. Stakeholder can use influence to change mind of other stakeholder, and worker. You think they have no power?:

Very ignorance.

Also English not first language, but I use simple word because this very simple logic.

NP. You are welcome to buy or not buy a product from a private company. Their incentive is maximizing profit, and so it is in their interest to make as many customers as possible as happy as possible to motivate them to buy more and/or draw in additional customers. A bunch of customers decide to stop buying their products? That's probably a big problem for them, depending on their margins, and likely also indicative that their value proposition is missing the market (or segments thereof) and need to adjust accordingly.

Public schools are a social good. Everyone pays taxes, even people without kids. They aren't there just to make the parents happy. A bunch of parents are unsatisfied with it want to send their kids to a private school? Fine. The school keeps operating the same. They are there to serve what professional educators do their level best to determine is in the collective best interest of the citizens (parents, students, teachers, everyone), not worry about making individual parents exceptionally happy or being responsive to their vastly differing opinions. Sure, if like 10-20% of FFX public students dropped out they might wonder if they need to make some accommodations, but even during an event as severe as COVID something like only 5% of students withdrew (and at least half have since returned). The schools are fine. If you are unhappy, the best way to make change is probably to constructively build relationships and work via your neighborhood civic associations, PTA, and school board members.

But trying to compare social goods to private capitalist enterprises and expecting similar dynamics to play out in their marketplaces is a fool's errand.

DP. Thanks for the response and you are welcome to have this point of view. But, teachers cannot exist without the taxpayer, the school board doesn’t exist if not for the parents who voted them in. Parents and taxpayers CAN exist without FCPS. Your premise of having the taxpayer beholden to “professional educators” is one that is not accepted by a large number of people. And you should know this. Quite a few of the administrators in FFX are downright awful and prejudiced, and simply don’t know my children like I do. If the cost is nothing why not choose the decision that makes the most people (parents included) happy? The way you phrased it seemed to imply that this is a one sum game.

DP. I feel sorry for you, but I feel more sorry for your kids and their teachers. You'll be the parent calling up the department advising office at your kid's college or maybe even their graduate school. And they will all laugh at how crazy you are.

P.S. if you know your children so well and what they need, why don't you homeschool? Do us all a favor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’d like to know what parents were on the committee in the summer that voted this new guy in. Wtf were they thinking??

LOL the committee didn't pick....thats staged. The county knew who they wanted.

Signed a teacher who sat on many "committees"

[Anonymous]

We’re looking to buy in the spring and considering homes in navy or waples boundaries. Just found this thread and OMG.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We’re looking to buy in the spring and considering homes in navy or waples boundaries. Just found this thread and OMG.

You actually read all the pages? Bull.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We’re looking to buy in the spring and considering homes in navy or waples boundaries. Just found this thread and OMG.

You actually read all the pages? Bull.

Waples Mill-go there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d like to know what parents were on the committee in the summer that voted this new guy in. Wtf were they thinking??

LOL the committee didn't pick....thats staged. The county knew who they wanted. +1
Signed a teacher who sat on many "committees"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We’re looking to buy in the spring and considering homes in navy or waples boundaries. Just found this thread and OMG.

You actually read all the pages? Bull.

Waples Mill-go there.

NP and as a former sub @ WMES, the front office is collectively awful and decidedly rude. One of the worst and I’ve been at nearly every ES in the area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We’re looking to buy in the spring and considering homes in navy or waples boundaries. Just found this thread and OMG.

I wouldn’t consider the few crazy people posting in this thread to be representative of the entire Navy population. Not by a longshot. I think you would be fine at either school. My kids play sports with kids go to Waples Mill, and people seem happy there.it’s tough to find houses around here so I think you should just buy the house you like and disregard this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’d like to know what parents were on the committee in the summer that voted this new guy in. Wtf were they thinking??

The interview panel does NOT vote on or pick the principal. It’s clearly stated from the start that the panel is providing their feedback to the asst superintendent who makes the decision. No one has ever said that the panel picks the principal.