Uh, seems like Trump's visit to the NABJ is not going well...

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Umar really, really hates interracial marriage. Look him up. His problem with Kamala is entirely that. She is the product of interracial marriage and, to add insult to injury, also married to a European Jew.

If you are looking for Black men to bolster your argument you can do a lot better than Dr. Umar.

A racist black man is no better than a racist white man.

Dr. Umar thinks the white liberals want to make black boys gay through the public school system and that abortion js black genocide. I am not surprised he’s not supporting the Democrats. He is part of the fringe and definitely not the majority of black men. He’s like the route for QAnon for some disgruntled black people online. He makes lots of money supposedly crowdfunding to build a “black K-8 school for poor black boys” but it’s still not finished yet despite years of discussing

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Anonymous wrote:The only thing they could pin on him as offensive was his statement that he didn’t know Kamala Harris is Black.

That’s it.

She’s Indian-American isn’t she? She looks more Indian than Black to me, too. Look at her hair.

If her trolls are going to keep screaming anti-White screeds while she makes her entire candidacy about her descriptors, she might want to develop a thicker skin. Unless she’s ashamed of her Indian heritage that is.

Just WOW. Speechless.

She was raised by her Brahmin mother, raised Hindu, speaks Hindi — and her father also has Indian ancestry. She wasn’t even raised in the United States from the time she was 12. She can identify however she wants, but she is not a product of the African-American experience, and certainly not ADOS.

She is not even part of the American immigrant experience, in that neither of her Ph.D. parents became U.S. citizens.

As a Brahmin, the dirty little secret is that she is against anti-caste legislation in the United States. Someone should ask her about that, if she ever does give an unscripted interview.

Never thought I'd see the day when white Republicans' main argument against a candidate is that she isn't black enough.

They did this to Obama, too, though. It’s wedge politics where they try to divide the people they know are never going to vote for them. Every once in a while there are trolls here still saying “how come Obama is the first black president when he’s half white?” or “How come we never hear about Obama’s white heritage?” That’s definitely been out there.

Do you apologists really think it’s OK that Kamala is against anti-caste legislation in the United States?

That's your line of attack now? You've exhausted everything else. It's pretty sad really. You've got an old, weird and confused candidate that doesn't understand that someone can be bi-racial.

So you are against anti-caste legislation? And pro-Brahmin? And anti-Kamala ever giving an unscripted interview?

I don't even know what anti-caste legislation is. Why should I care?

Why should you vote?

Anti-caste legislation is the only reason a person would vote? Weird.

Perchance people like you, who are too lazy to understand the Indian-American experience in the United States by googling “caste discrimination” — and do not care about it — should not vote.

Are you Indian-American? I am. This is the first I heard that “caste discrimination” is supposed to be part of my Indian-American experience. Please "Americansplain" me "caste discrimination” please.

+1 Another Indian-American here that would love to hear someone explain how "caste discrimination" is a part of my experience in this country. "Americansplain" is a perfect way of putting it.

Another married to another Indian-American with a majority of our Indian-American friends. None of us are discussing this issue. And sounds like one person parroting the same argument without any evidence over and over.

The person who keeps posting about Harris voting against the anti-caste legislation is obviously a white conservative who is trying to find a wedge issue to separate her from her black and Asian supporters. This person does not realize that ethnic communities would rather have a representative of their community even if they don't agree on all topics, than to have yet another white male politician who does not understand or know anything about their demographic. Many of us would rather have someone who looks like us and comes from a similar background, than to nitpick individual policies as wedge issues.

Hence why this has to be some white conservative who doesn't understand minority communities and demographics at all.

Your logic is flawed. Using your logic then white people shouldn’t vote for Harris because “many of us would rather have someone who looks like us and comes from a similar background”. That is obviously wrong and misguided. If we want to build a diverse community then we can’t all just vote for people that “look like us”. I really can’t believe that I would have to explain something so obvious.

Says the person that has never had to question whether the people in politics, on tv shows and in movies, as news anchors, and in other areas of public representation looked like you.

You come from a position of privilege that the world has always been open and inviting to people "who look like you". When someone is a minority theyfeel like the field of politics, fame, and positions of power are not welcoming because everyone looks like you rather than like we do. My parents taught me I had to be 110% and better than everyone else to be considered average and equal to others. You grew up thinking that you could do anything you wanted and you saw examples of people who looked like you everywhere. You could dream of being POTUS because you've seen plenty of white men who achieved that. For those of us that are minorities, with the exception of President Obama, we've never seen anyone representative of us as President. Until VP Harris, we've never seen a woman of color as VPOTUS. Obama and Harris help us to believe that we could aspire (or in reality, our children could aspire) to such positions.

There is a world of difference between a white person voting for "someone that looks like them" as opposed to people of color voting that way. And if you can't understand that, then you have a very poor understanding of privilege and race.

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Anonymous wrote:The only thing they could pin on him as offensive was his statement that he didn’t know Kamala Harris is Black.

That’s it.

She’s Indian-American isn’t she? She looks more Indian than Black to me, too. Look at her hair.

If her trolls are going to keep screaming anti-White screeds while she makes her entire candidacy about her descriptors, she might want to develop a thicker skin. Unless she’s ashamed of her Indian heritage that is.

Just WOW. Speechless.

She was raised by her Brahmin mother, raised Hindu, speaks Hindi — and her father also has Indian ancestry. She wasn’t even raised in the United States from the time she was 12. She can identify however she wants, but she is not a product of the African-American experience, and certainly not ADOS.

She is not even part of the American immigrant experience, in that neither of her Ph.D. parents became U.S. citizens.

As a Brahmin, the dirty little secret is that she is against anti-caste legislation in the United States. Someone should ask her about that, if she ever does give an unscripted interview.

Never thought I'd see the day when white Republicans' main argument against a candidate is that she isn't black enough.

They did this to Obama, too, though. It’s wedge politics where they try to divide the people they know are never going to vote for them. Every once in a while there are trolls here still saying “how come Obama is the first black president when he’s half white?” or “How come we never hear about Obama’s white heritage?” That’s definitely been out there.

Do you apologists really think it’s OK that Kamala is against anti-caste legislation in the United States?

That's your line of attack now? You've exhausted everything else. It's pretty sad really. You've got an old, weird and confused candidate that doesn't understand that someone can be bi-racial.

So you are against anti-caste legislation? And pro-Brahmin? And anti-Kamala ever giving an unscripted interview?

I don't even know what anti-caste legislation is. Why should I care?

Why should you vote?

Anti-caste legislation is the only reason a person would vote? Weird.

Perchance people like you, who are too lazy to understand the Indian-American experience in the United States by googling “caste discrimination” — and do not care about it — should not vote.

Are you Indian-American? I am. This is the first I heard that “caste discrimination” is supposed to be part of my Indian-American experience. Please "Americansplain" me "caste discrimination” please.

+1 Another Indian-American here that would love to hear someone explain how "caste discrimination" is a part of my experience in this country. "Americansplain" is a perfect way of putting it.

Another married to another Indian-American with a majority of our Indian-American friends. None of us are discussing this issue. And sounds like one person parroting the same argument without any evidence over and over.

The person who keeps posting about Harris voting against the anti-caste legislation is obviously a white conservative who is trying to find a wedge issue to separate her from her black and Asian supporters. This person does not realize that ethnic communities would rather have a representative of their community even if they don't agree on all topics, than to have yet another white male politician who does not understand or know anything about their demographic. Many of us would rather have someone who looks like us and comes from a similar background, than to nitpick individual policies as wedge issues.

Hence why this has to be some white conservative who doesn't understand minority communities and demographics at all.

Your logic is flawed. Using your logic then white people shouldn’t vote for Harris because “many of us would rather have someone who looks like us and comes from a similar background”. That is obviously wrong and misguided. If we want to build a diverse community then we can’t all just vote for people that “look like us”. I really can’t believe that I would have to explain something so obvious.

Says the person that has never had to question whether the people in politics, on tv shows and in movies, as news anchors, and in other areas of public representation looked like you.

You come from a position of privilege that the world has always been open and inviting to people "who look like you". When someone is a minority theyfeel like the field of politics, fame, and positions of power are not welcoming because everyone looks like you rather than like we do. My parents taught me I had to be 110% and better than everyone else to be considered average and equal to others. You grew up thinking that you could do anything you wanted and you saw examples of people who looked like you everywhere. You could dream of being POTUS because you've seen plenty of white men who achieved that. For those of us that are minorities, with the exception of President Obama, we've never seen anyone representative of us as President. Until VP Harris, we've never seen a woman of color as VPOTUS. Obama and Harris help us to believe that we could aspire (or in reality, our children could aspire) to such positions.

There is a world of difference between a white person voting for "someone that looks like them" as opposed to people of color voting that way. And if you can't understand that, then you have a very poor understanding of privilege and race.

So you just listed a bunch of assumptions about my life that stem from your own biases rather than knowledge of me as an individual. White people don’t like that any more than a black person would like it if some white guy made up a narrative about their life and experiences. Why is that so hard to understand?

In reality, I grew up in DC surrounded by black people who were in positions of power. I was a minority in my own community. The most powerful people in my school were black administrators. The mayor was black. The news anchors were often black. The music my friends and I listened to was definitely not by white artists. I was bullied and threatened for my skin color. I couldn’t dream of ever being accepted into many of the important cultural groups that my best friends were allowed into just because of my skin color. Ever seen a white boy at a Junkyard Band show over at Barry Farm? Hm. How do you think that played out?

I am also from an immigrant family from an eastern european country and I can sure tell you about the lack of people who shared my experience in DC. The black people that I grew up with had far more cultural representation than I ever did in a million years.

The point is that while I have not faced anti-black racism (although I have definitely been a part of my friend group while white people were treating us in a racist way) I have faced my own setbacks and loss of opportunity due to my own skin color so why can’t you see our similarities rather than our differences?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know, think he is spot on

I know this is hard for you to get your head around, but a human can have both Indian and Black ancestors and culturally identify with both groups. I understand this is difficult to comprehend, so I am here if you have further questions.

As a mixed-race person, people feel this need to put you in a box with one label on it. They cannot cope with wanting to love and treasure all our cultural influences. I’m not part-black but have experienced this a lot, and it is IRRITATING.

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Anonymous wrote:The only thing they could pin on him as offensive was his statement that he didn’t know Kamala Harris is Black.

That’s it.

She’s Indian-American isn’t she? She looks more Indian than Black to me, too. Look at her hair.

If her trolls are going to keep screaming anti-White screeds while she makes her entire candidacy about her descriptors, she might want to develop a thicker skin. Unless she’s ashamed of her Indian heritage that is.

Just WOW. Speechless.

She was raised by her Brahmin mother, raised Hindu, speaks Hindi — and her father also has Indian ancestry. She wasn’t even raised in the United States from the time she was 12. She can identify however she wants, but she is not a product of the African-American experience, and certainly not ADOS.

She is not even part of the American immigrant experience, in that neither of her Ph.D. parents became U.S. citizens.

As a Brahmin, the dirty little secret is that she is against anti-caste legislation in the United States. Someone should ask her about that, if she ever does give an unscripted interview.

Never thought I'd see the day when white Republicans' main argument against a candidate is that she isn't black enough.

They did this to Obama, too, though. It’s wedge politics where they try to divide the people they know are never going to vote for them. Every once in a while there are trolls here still saying “how come Obama is the first black president when he’s half white?” or “How come we never hear about Obama’s white heritage?” That’s definitely been out there.

Do you apologists really think it’s OK that Kamala is against anti-caste legislation in the United States?

That's your line of attack now? You've exhausted everything else. It's pretty sad really. You've got an old, weird and confused candidate that doesn't understand that someone can be bi-racial.

So you are against anti-caste legislation? And pro-Brahmin? And anti-Kamala ever giving an unscripted interview?

I don't even know what anti-caste legislation is. Why should I care?

Why should you vote?

Anti-caste legislation is the only reason a person would vote? Weird.

Perchance people like you, who are too lazy to understand the Indian-American experience in the United States by googling “caste discrimination” — and do not care about it — should not vote.

Are you Indian-American? I am. This is the first I heard that “caste discrimination” is supposed to be part of my Indian-American experience. Please "Americansplain" me "caste discrimination” please.

+1 Another Indian-American here that would love to hear someone explain how "caste discrimination" is a part of my experience in this country. "Americansplain" is a perfect way of putting it.

Another married to another Indian-American with a majority of our Indian-American friends. None of us are discussing this issue. And sounds like one person parroting the same argument without any evidence over and over.

The person who keeps posting about Harris voting against the anti-caste legislation is obviously a white conservative who is trying to find a wedge issue to separate her from her black and Asian supporters. This person does not realize that ethnic communities would rather have a representative of their community even if they don't agree on all topics, than to have yet another white male politician who does not understand or know anything about their demographic. Many of us would rather have someone who looks like us and comes from a similar background, than to nitpick individual policies as wedge issues.

Hence why this has to be some white conservative who doesn't understand minority communities and demographics at all.

Your logic is flawed. Using your logic then white people shouldn’t vote for Harris because “many of us would rather have someone who looks like us and comes from a similar background”. That is obviously wrong and misguided. If we want to build a diverse community then we can’t all just vote for people that “look like us”. I really can’t believe that I would have to explain something so obvious.

Says the person that has never had to question whether the people in politics, on tv shows and in movies, as news anchors, and in other areas of public representation looked like you.

You come from a position of privilege that the world has always been open and inviting to people "who look like you". When someone is a minority theyfeel like the field of politics, fame, and positions of power are not welcoming because everyone looks like you rather than like we do. My parents taught me I had to be 110% and better than everyone else to be considered average and equal to others. You grew up thinking that you could do anything you wanted and you saw examples of people who looked like you everywhere. You could dream of being POTUS because you've seen plenty of white men who achieved that. For those of us that are minorities, with the exception of President Obama, we've never seen anyone representative of us as President. Until VP Harris, we've never seen a woman of color as VPOTUS. Obama and Harris help us to believe that we could aspire (or in reality, our children could aspire) to such positions.

There is a world of difference between a white person voting for "someone that looks like them" as opposed to people of color voting that way. And if you can't understand that, then you have a very poor understanding of privilege and race.

So you just listed a bunch of assumptions about my life that stem from your own biases rather than knowledge of me as an individual. White people don’t like that any more than a black person would like it if some white guy made up a narrative about their life and experiences. Why is that so hard to understand?

In reality, I grew up in DC surrounded by black people who were in positions of power. I was a minority in my own community. The most powerful people in my school were black administrators. The mayor was black. The news anchors were often black. The music my friends and I listened to was definitely not by white artists. I was bullied and threatened for my skin color. I couldn’t dream of ever being accepted into many of the important cultural groups that my best friends were allowed into just because of my skin color. Ever seen a white boy at a Junkyard Band show over at Barry Farm? Hm. How do you think that played out?

I am also from an immigrant family from an eastern european country and I can sure tell you about the lack of people who shared my experience in DC. The black people that I grew up with had far more cultural representation than I ever did in a million years.

The point is that while I have not faced anti-black racism (although I have definitely been a part of my friend group while white people were treating us in a racist way) I have faced my own setbacks and loss of opportunity due to my own skin color so why can’t you see our similarities rather than our differences?

DP. As a white person, if you've had "setbacks and loss of opportunity," I'm pretty sure they are not due to your skin color.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think he understood they were laughing at him.

The staff that cut the interview short and yanked him off the stage certainly did.

It wasn’t his staff.
It was the interviewer. Doesn’t matter what SHE said. They were late getting started because of “technical issues.”

Where was Kamala?

MAGAs get duped and then look stupid every.single.time.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think he understood they were laughing at him.

The staff that cut the interview short and yanked him off the stage certainly did.

It wasn’t his staff.
It was the interviewer. Doesn’t matter what SHE said. They were late getting started because of “technical issues.”

Where was Kamala?

MAGAs get duped and then look stupid every.single.time.

Well, it was kinda audio issues -- he didn't want them to share that they were hearing lies coming out of his mouth?

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Anonymous wrote:The only thing they could pin on him as offensive was his statement that he didn’t know Kamala Harris is Black.

That’s it.

She’s Indian-American isn’t she? She looks more Indian than Black to me, too. Look at her hair.

If her trolls are going to keep screaming anti-White screeds while she makes her entire candidacy about her descriptors, she might want to develop a thicker skin. Unless she’s ashamed of her Indian heritage that is.

Just WOW. Speechless.

She was raised by her Brahmin mother, raised Hindu, speaks Hindi — and her father also has Indian ancestry. She wasn’t even raised in the United States from the time she was 12. She can identify however she wants, but she is not a product of the African-American experience, and certainly not ADOS.

She is not even part of the American immigrant experience, in that neither of her Ph.D. parents became U.S. citizens.

As a Brahmin, the dirty little secret is that she is against anti-caste legislation in the United States. Someone should ask her about that, if she ever does give an unscripted interview.

Never thought I'd see the day when white Republicans' main argument against a candidate is that she isn't black enough.

They did this to Obama, too, though. It’s wedge politics where they try to divide the people they know are never going to vote for them. Every once in a while there are trolls here still saying “how come Obama is the first black president when he’s half white?” or “How come we never hear about Obama’s white heritage?” That’s definitely been out there.

Do you apologists really think it’s OK that Kamala is against anti-caste legislation in the United States?

That's your line of attack now? You've exhausted everything else. It's pretty sad really. You've got an old, weird and confused candidate that doesn't understand that someone can be bi-racial.

So you are against anti-caste legislation? And pro-Brahmin? And anti-Kamala ever giving an unscripted interview?

I don't even know what anti-caste legislation is. Why should I care?

Why should you vote?

Anti-caste legislation is the only reason a person would vote? Weird.

Perchance people like you, who are too lazy to understand the Indian-American experience in the United States by googling “caste discrimination” — and do not care about it — should not vote.

Are you Indian-American? I am. This is the first I heard that “caste discrimination” is supposed to be part of my Indian-American experience. Please "Americansplain" me "caste discrimination” please.

+1 Another Indian-American here that would love to hear someone explain how "caste discrimination" is a part of my experience in this country. "Americansplain" is a perfect way of putting it.

Another married to another Indian-American with a majority of our Indian-American friends. None of us are discussing this issue. And sounds like one person parroting the same argument without any evidence over and over.

The person who keeps posting about Harris voting against the anti-caste legislation is obviously a white conservative who is trying to find a wedge issue to separate her from her black and Asian supporters. This person does not realize that ethnic communities would rather have a representative of their community even if they don't agree on all topics, than to have yet another white male politician who does not understand or know anything about their demographic. Many of us would rather have someone who looks like us and comes from a similar background, than to nitpick individual policies as wedge issues.

Hence why this has to be some white conservative who doesn't understand minority communities and demographics at all.

Your logic is flawed. Using your logic then white people shouldn’t vote for Harris because “many of us would rather have someone who looks like us and comes from a similar background”. That is obviously wrong and misguided. If we want to build a diverse community then we can’t all just vote for people that “look like us”. I really can’t believe that I would have to explain something so obvious.

Says the person that has never had to question whether the people in politics, on tv shows and in movies, as news anchors, and in other areas of public representation looked like you.

You come from a position of privilege that the world has always been open and inviting to people "who look like you". When someone is a minority theyfeel like the field of politics, fame, and positions of power are not welcoming because everyone looks like you rather than like we do. My parents taught me I had to be 110% and better than everyone else to be considered average and equal to others. You grew up thinking that you could do anything you wanted and you saw examples of people who looked like you everywhere. You could dream of being POTUS because you've seen plenty of white men who achieved that. For those of us that are minorities, with the exception of President Obama, we've never seen anyone representative of us as President. Until VP Harris, we've never seen a woman of color as VPOTUS. Obama and Harris help us to believe that we could aspire (or in reality, our children could aspire) to such positions.

There is a world of difference between a white person voting for "someone that looks like them" as opposed to people of color voting that way. And if you can't understand that, then you have a very poor understanding of privilege and race.

So you just listed a bunch of assumptions about my life that stem from your own biases rather than knowledge of me as an individual. White people don’t like that any more than a black person would like it if some white guy made up a narrative about their life and experiences. Why is that so hard to understand?

In reality, I grew up in DC surrounded by black people who were in positions of power. I was a minority in my own community. The most powerful people in my school were black administrators. The mayor was black. The news anchors were often black. The music my friends and I listened to was definitely not by white artists. I was bullied and threatened for my skin color. I couldn’t dream of ever being accepted into many of the important cultural groups that my best friends were allowed into just because of my skin color. Ever seen a white boy at a Junkyard Band show over at Barry Farm? Hm. How do you think that played out?

I am also from an immigrant family from an eastern european country and I can sure tell you about the lack of people who shared my experience in DC. The black people that I grew up with had far more cultural representation than I ever did in a million years.

The point is that while I have not faced anti-black racism (although I have definitely been a part of my friend group while white people were treating us in a racist way) I have faced my own setbacks and loss of opportunity due to my own skin color so why can’t you see our similarities rather than our differences?

DP. As a white person, if you've had "setbacks and loss of opportunity," I'm pretty sure they are not due to your skin color.

Another DP...you're white?!? I never would have guessed.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know, think he is spot on

I know this is hard for you to get your head around, but a human can have both Indian and Black ancestors and culturally identify with both groups. I understand this is difficult to comprehend, so I am here if you have further questions.

As a mixed-race person, people feel this need to put you in a box with one label on it. They cannot cope with wanting to love and treasure all our cultural influences. I’m not part-black but have experienced this a lot, and it is IRRITATING.

Who isn't mixed race today? I guarantee 90% of the population is mixed race. Probably higher.

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Did anyone noticed how he grabbed the wrong bottle of water?

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone noticed how he grabbed the wrong bottle of water?

Yes, a few pages back. Because no one can figure out what happened there. Did he not notice that his water was on his right side? Was he trying to show aggression toward the moderator? It’s just such a pointless Trumpian thing to do.

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I can't believe Republicans want to keep arguing about "how black" Harris is. She clearly scares the shit out of them.

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Anonymous wrote:Jamaican isn’t a race.

And I thought Indian was Asian, not Caucasian, but that's what's on the birth certificate.

The mom looks Indian to me.

Mom is Brahmin, and was quoted as disrupting a “1,000 year bloodline” by marrying a mixed-race Jamaican.

There was lots of slavery in India, folks. Brahmins were the slave owners…

They are still Indian. Their skin may be lighter, but they are still Indian. It's like saying East Asians are Caucasian because some of them have lighter skin than some white people.

I realize that people from areas where it borders other areas with a different race start to look more ambiguous, but in the US, Brahmins wouldn't be considered white people. Ask a neoNazi if he would consider her "white".

Harris has never stated that she is Caucasian, but she has stated that she is part Indian and part Jamaican (or black).

You don’t think it’s relevant that Kamala might come from a “1,000 year bloodline” of slave owners? You are hiding behind your obvious ignorance of Indian history. Why do you think California is adding “caste” to protected classes such as race etc.

Oh friend. I have some bad news about white people.

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Harris is not 100% black, but Trump is 100% a r*pist, crook and a traitor who wouldn't waste spit on his supporters even if they were on fire.

Gee, it's just so hard to choose!

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Michelle Robinson Obama also had slave owner ancestors BECAUSE SLAVE OWNERS IMPREGNATED THEIR SLAVES.

Taunting Black people for having slave owner ancestors is not the gotcha that you dumb ass racists think it is.