What is average GPA/Grades for top 25% at TJ

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hi! Did the counselors say which year of class the Naviance scattergram represented? Was it Class of 24 or 25? Thanks!

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Anonymous wrote:If you look at the Naviance scattergram for schools like UVA, VT, and UMD where many TJ kids apply, you will see the horizontal line which indicates average GPA.

VT and UMD: 4.1 to 4.2

UVA: 4.3 to 4.3

So my best guess is the distribution is as follows:

4.0 and below: 15%

4.0 to 4.2: 25%

4.2 to 4.4: 45%

4.4 and above: 15%

How does Naviance work? Is the 4.1 to 4.3 at VT just those kids of TJ that applied? If so, would then think GPA higher for the TJ kids who apply to the MIT etc schools.

Not sure where you are getting this. For last year, the AVERAGE stats for a TJ kids getting into VT was 4.36GPA and 1541SAT for UVA it was 4.48GPA and 1553SAT

In last week’s junior parents “college info” session (zoom), they told us that the content we see in Navience is for TJ only. In addition, it captures GPA at the END of senior year. Important to be aware of bc apparently end of senior year GPAs are a little higher bc of how many APs loaded in. Maybe that’s wrong but it’s what was shared.

Naviance scattergram data points show just SAT and GPA, and it's limited data reported by school from multiple years. In a another product SchoolLinks, used by other school systems, the admission year is also shown.

Naviance is the last three years of applicants from the school plotted on the graphs. The GPAs are final grades and they are typically lower when applying as most TJ senior courses are post-AP or AP classes that are weighted a 4.5 or 5.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you look at the Naviance scattergram for schools like UVA, VT, and UMD where many TJ kids apply, you will see the horizontal line which indicates average GPA.

VT and UMD: 4.1 to 4.2

UVA: 4.3 to 4.3

So my best guess is the distribution is as follows:

4.0 and below: 15%

4.0 to 4.2: 25%

4.2 to 4.4: 45%

4.4 and above: 15%

How does Naviance work? Is the 4.1 to 4.3 at VT just those kids of TJ that applied? If so, would then think GPA higher for the TJ kids who apply to the MIT etc schools.

Not sure where you are getting this. For last year, the AVERAGE stats for a TJ kids getting into VT was 4.36GPA and 1541SAT for UVA it was 4.48GPA and 1553SAT

Naviance doesn’t list majors, but it’s pretty reasonable to guess that the applicants in the upper GPA quartile on the scattergram are the engineering majors, including cs. Rest are arts & science majors.

Also, the GPAs shown are from the end of TJ senior year. If you want to ballpark what their junior or sophomore GPAs were, just knock off about 0.1 per year. So a 4.48 on Naviance probably means something like a 4.38 at the end of junior year and around a 4.28 at the end of sophomore year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you look at the Naviance scattergram for schools like UVA, VT, and UMD where many TJ kids apply, you will see the horizontal line which indicates average GPA.

VT and UMD: 4.1 to 4.2

UVA: 4.3 to 4.3

So my best guess is the distribution is as follows:

4.0 and below: 15%

4.0 to 4.2: 25%

4.2 to 4.4: 45%

4.4 and above: 15%

How does Naviance work? Is the 4.1 to 4.3 at VT just those kids of TJ that applied? If so, would then think GPA higher for the TJ kids who apply to the MIT etc schools.

Not sure where you are getting this. For last year, the AVERAGE stats for a TJ kids getting into VT was 4.36GPA and 1541SAT for UVA it was 4.48GPA and 1553SAT

Naviance doesn’t list majors, but it’s pretty reasonable to guess that the applicants in the upper GPA quartile on the scattergram are the engineering majors, including cs. Rest are arts & science majors.

Also, the GPAs shown are from the end of TJ senior year. If you want to ballpark what their junior or sophomore GPAs were, just knock off about 0.1 per year. So a 4.48 on Naviance probably means something like a 4.38 at the end of junior year and around a 4.28 at the end of sophomore year.

Usually not much change from junior year because for vast majority of students grades dip a bit in senior year, especially 2nd half when many are just trying to avoid getting a D or C. None of T20 with possible exception of Princeton would not worry about B's after admission.

[Anonymous]

Grades tend to rise senior year, when more classes are weighted. Also, those middle school HS math and language credits are not truly weighted much so the freshman year straight A’s isn’t going to be that much higher than 4.2-ish. Then maybe by junior year three years of A’s gets to 4.4 or 4.5. Then straight A’s for four years will seem much higher at the end of the senior year, maybe 4.6-ish… Naviance data/grades are senior grades not junior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you look at the Naviance scattergram for schools like UVA, VT, and UMD where many TJ kids apply, you will see the horizontal line which indicates average GPA.

VT and UMD: 4.1 to 4.2

UVA: 4.3 to 4.3

So my best guess is the distribution is as follows:

4.0 and below: 15%

4.0 to 4.2: 25%

4.2 to 4.4: 45%

4.4 and above: 15%

How does Naviance work? Is the 4.1 to 4.3 at VT just those kids of TJ that applied? If so, would then think GPA higher for the TJ kids who apply to the MIT etc schools.

Not sure where you are getting this. For last year, the AVERAGE stats for a TJ kids getting into VT was 4.36GPA and 1541SAT for UVA it was 4.48GPA and 1553SAT

Naviance doesn’t list majors, but it’s pretty reasonable to guess that the applicants in the upper GPA quartile on the scattergram are the engineering majors, including cs. Rest are arts & science majors.

Also, the GPAs shown are from the end of TJ senior year. If you want to ballpark what their junior or sophomore GPAs were, just knock off about 0.1 per year. So a 4.48 on Naviance probably means something like a 4.38 at the end of junior year and around a 4.28 at the end of sophomore year.

Usually not much change from junior year because for vast majority of students grades dip a bit in senior year, especially 2nd half when many are just trying to avoid getting a D or C. None of T20 with possible exception of Princeton would not worry about B's after admission.

Princeton rescinds or sends warning letters if there are some Bs second semester?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you look at the Naviance scattergram for schools like UVA, VT, and UMD where many TJ kids apply, you will see the horizontal line which indicates average GPA.

VT and UMD: 4.1 to 4.2

UVA: 4.3 to 4.3

So my best guess is the distribution is as follows:

4.0 and below: 15%

4.0 to 4.2: 25%

4.2 to 4.4: 45%

4.4 and above: 15%

How does Naviance work? Is the 4.1 to 4.3 at VT just those kids of TJ that applied? If so, would then think GPA higher for the TJ kids who apply to the MIT etc schools.

Not sure where you are getting this. For last year, the AVERAGE stats for a TJ kids getting into VT was 4.36GPA and 1541SAT for UVA it was 4.48GPA and 1553SAT

Naviance doesn’t list majors, but it’s pretty reasonable to guess that the applicants in the upper GPA quartile on the scattergram are the engineering majors, including cs. Rest are arts & science majors.

Also, the GPAs shown are from the end of TJ senior year. If you want to ballpark what their junior or sophomore GPAs were, just knock off about 0.1 per year. So a 4.48 on Naviance probably means something like a 4.38 at the end of junior year and around a 4.28 at the end of sophomore year.

Usually not much change from junior year because for vast majority of students grades dip a bit in senior year, especially 2nd half when many are just trying to avoid getting a D or C. None of T20 with possible exception of Princeton would not worry about B's after admission.

Princeton rescinds or sends warning letters if there are some Bs second semester?

Not likely, but student could be placed on academic watch for first semester. One B shouldn't matter, but a C can draw attention. What they dislike is grades dropping to Cs in senior year, especially if the prior years had mostly As.