Relationships Troll

[Anonymous]

Hi Jeff,

Is the poster from 'just venting' and 'please tell me why I should apologize' the same person?

Feels weird that there would be two super aggressive and nasty posts about DWs acting completely bonkers that devolve into hating on women in general so close to each other? I dunno, both stories seem crazy and both OPs seem kind of crazy and really inordinately angry at women and seeking validation.

[Anonymous]

I'm one of the guys in the "just venting" thread (but not the OP) and I'm not trolling. Nor am I crazy. I recognize myself in the OP's situation. It's disturbing that you can't accept that there are some of us with relationship dynamics being described.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the guys in the "just venting" thread (but not the OP) and I'm not trolling. Nor am I crazy. I recognize myself in the OP's situation. It's disturbing that you can't accept that there are some of us with relationship dynamics being described.

I can accept that some men are in abusive situations. But none of you seem to be sad, just like...stewing in silent anger. And seeming to think all women hate you. Like, if the situations are as described and you're not afraid of your DWs then why are you here instead of in a divorce attorney's office? It just seems weird and weirdly antagonistic towards ALL women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the guys in the "just venting" thread (but not the OP) and I'm not trolling. Nor am I crazy. I recognize myself in the OP's situation. It's disturbing that you can't accept that there are some of us with relationship dynamics being described.

I can accept that some men are in abusive situations. But none of you seem to be sad, just like...stewing in silent anger. And seeming to think all women hate you. Like, if the situations are as described and you're not afraid of your DWs then why are you here instead of in a divorce attorney's office? It just seems weird and weirdly antagonistic towards ALL women.

I'm a woman and I think we women complain about men on this site all the time. Not strange that a man would complain about a woman on this site.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the guys in the "just venting" thread (but not the OP) and I'm not trolling. Nor am I crazy. I recognize myself in the OP's situation. It's disturbing that you can't accept that there are some of us with relationship dynamics being described.

I can accept that some men are in abusive situations. But none of you seem to be sad, just like...stewing in silent anger. And seeming to think all women hate you. Like, if the situations are as described and you're not afraid of your DWs then why are you here instead of in a divorce attorney's office? It just seems weird and weirdly antagonistic towards ALL women.

I don't think all women hate me. Nor do I hate women.

How do you know I'm not sad? I'm very sad. I'm also angry. I feel trapped, for a number of different reasons. It's not fun. I have my own personal code: I won't cheat and I won't leave her, either. At this point, I'm more committed to my children than her, but it is what it is.

As I said, the reason I'm not at a divorce attorney's office is I don't want to lose daily access to my children.

Life is not black and white.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the guys in the "just venting" thread (but not the OP) and I'm not trolling. Nor am I crazy. I recognize myself in the OP's situation. It's disturbing that you can't accept that there are some of us with relationship dynamics being described.

I can accept that some men are in abusive situations. But none of you seem to be sad, just like...stewing in silent anger. And seeming to think all women hate you. Like, if the situations are as described and you're not afraid of your DWs then why are you here instead of in a divorce attorney's office? It just seems weird and weirdly antagonistic towards ALL women.

I don't think all women hate me. Nor do I hate women.

How do you know I'm not sad? I'm very sad. I'm also angry. I feel trapped, for a number of different reasons. It's not fun. I have my own personal code: I won't cheat and I won't leave her, either. At this point, I'm more committed to my children than her, but it is what it is.

As I said, the reason I'm not at a divorce attorney's office is I don't want to lose daily access to my children.

Life is not black and white.

I think you're taking this too personally. I wasn't actually calling you out. I was calling out OP. I didn't think your posts were bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the guys in the "just venting" thread (but not the OP) and I'm not trolling. Nor am I crazy. I recognize myself in the OP's situation. It's disturbing that you can't accept that there are some of us with relationship dynamics being described.

I can accept that some men are in abusive situations. But none of you seem to be sad, just like...stewing in silent anger. And seeming to think all women hate you. Like, if the situations are as described and you're not afraid of your DWs then why are you here instead of in a divorce attorney's office? It just seems weird and weirdly antagonistic towards ALL women.

I don't think all women hate me. Nor do I hate women.

How do you know I'm not sad? I'm very sad. I'm also angry. I feel trapped, for a number of different reasons. It's not fun. I have my own personal code: I won't cheat and I won't leave her, either. At this point, I'm more committed to my children than her, but it is what it is.

As I said, the reason I'm not at a divorce attorney's office is I don't want to lose daily access to my children.

Life is not black and white.

I think you're taking this too personally. I wasn't actually calling you out. I was calling out OP. I didn't think your posts were bad.

Fair enough, although I was viciously attacked on the thread, even called a douche canoe. Not that I care. I'm just saying that pp is right about the double standard. I'm not sure why you find OP to be trollish.

I'm also astonished by the number of women who confuse DCUM with being a womanspace.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:Hi Jeff,

Is the poster from 'just venting' and 'please tell me why I should apologize' the same person?

Feels weird that there would be two super aggressive and nasty posts about DWs acting completely bonkers that devolve into hating on women in general so close to each other? I dunno, both stories seem crazy and both OPs seem kind of crazy and really inordinately angry at women and seeking validation.

It doesn't appear to be the same poster. I removed a bunch of name-calling posts from the Just Venting thread. It seemed like the OP had a pretty reasonable complaint and I'm not sure why posters are blaming him. On the scale of misogynistic jerks that we routinely see here, this poster is pretty mild.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the guys in the "just venting" thread (but not the OP) and I'm not trolling. Nor am I crazy. I recognize myself in the OP's situation. It's disturbing that you can't accept that there are some of us with relationship dynamics being described.

I can accept that some men are in abusive situations. But none of you seem to be sad, just like...stewing in silent anger. And seeming to think all women hate you. Like, if the situations are as described and you're not afraid of your DWs then why are you here instead of in a divorce attorney's office? It just seems weird and weirdly antagonistic towards ALL women.

I don't think all women hate me. Nor do I hate women.

How do you know I'm not sad? I'm very sad. I'm also angry. I feel trapped, for a number of different reasons. It's not fun. I have my own personal code: I won't cheat and I won't leave her, either. At this point, I'm more committed to my children than her, but it is what it is.

As I said, the reason I'm not at a divorce attorney's office is I don't want to lose daily access to my children.

Life is not black and white.

I think you're taking this too personally. I wasn't actually calling you out. I was calling out OP. I didn't think your posts were bad.

Fair enough, although I was viciously attacked on the thread, even called a douche canoe. Not that I care. I'm just saying that pp is right about the double standard. I'm not sure why you find OP to be trollish.

I'm also astonished by the number of women who confuse DCUM with being a womanspace.

I think using words like 'womanspace' is what gets you in trouble with us women folk lol. But there is an element to you all knowing that when you post a question, the majority of readers ARE going to be women. As a result they will read the post likely relating more to the DW or woman in the situation. Attempting to phrase your posts with a little less vitriol would probably go a long way to helping you avoid getting 'visciously attacked' (that seema a bit hyberbolic to me). I think most people in that forum want to give real advice to people that are actually looking for advice. The way OP posts (in both threads I mentioned) it sounds like he just wants a bunch of women to tell him they think his wife is being a giant B. But honestly the way the situation is described is like...she seems too insane to have married. So it sounds like fishing for people to build up his anger instead looking for helpful advice. The way he was posting in the beginning did not imply that he had any intention of taking any productive action to improve the situation, so it came across as whiny.

Its also difficult to separate pps from OPs. I thought the 'douche canoe' comment was directed towards OP not towards you.

OP seems to have calmed down a bit so maybe this is irrelevant but it also looks like Jeff cleaned up the thread a bit, I think some posts disappeared.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi Jeff,

Is the poster from 'just venting' and 'please tell me why I should apologize' the same person?

Feels weird that there would be two super aggressive and nasty posts about DWs acting completely bonkers that devolve into hating on women in general so close to each other? I dunno, both stories seem crazy and both OPs seem kind of crazy and really inordinately angry at women and seeking validation.

It doesn't appear to be the same poster. I removed a bunch of name-calling posts from the Just Venting thread. It seemed like the OP had a pretty reasonable complaint and I'm not sure why posters are blaming him. On the scale of misogynistic jerks that we routinely see here, this poster is pretty mild.

Thanks, I didn't think either were particularly bad on their own it just seemed like they were close together. Thanks for cleaning it up though!

[Anonymous]

I am OP of the just venting thread....the thing that amazes me about this forum is that, in some peoples mind, if you are not a misandrist, you must be a misogynist.

After seeing who attacks me here, I must be middle of the road and sane, as I have been attacked for my non-traditional values, and as a misogynist...

I think there are a handful of posters that will attack any many that posts. I do not know if they are trolls stirring the pot or truly hate men.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am OP of the just venting thread....the thing that amazes me about this forum is that, in some peoples mind, if you are not a misandrist, you must be a misogynist.

After seeing who attacks me here, I must be middle of the road and sane, as I have been attacked for my non-traditional values, and as a misogynist...

I think there are a handful of posters that will attack any many that posts. I do not know if they are trolls stirring the pot or truly hate men.

This. Some women are very territorial about DCUM. I pity the men that post here. But keep posting. DCUM needs the balance!