Shen Yun warning

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They are members of Falun Gong. Tens of millions of people in China practiced Falun Gong until there was an incident where the leader of falun gong protested something the CCP did - which resulted in 10,000 people showing up to protest. The ability of Falun Gong to organize a protest like this scared the CCP and then Falun Gong was banned and then anyone that practices it is basically imprisoned, turned into slave labor, tortured and even killed - there is even organ harvesting. The same thing has happened to the Uyghurs. I know this group has some weird beliefs but I am glad they have survived the CCP's attempt to completely destroy them and still speak out. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1999/04/26/silent-protest-draws-thousands-to-beijing/e0b7ee29-eec6-48ba-b6a6-5cd10980ec77/

I condemn China's human right violations. Does that mean that I have to accept Falun Gong's hateful message against atheism? Or their anti-science propaganda?

No, of course you don't have to accept it. I would go to the show and see it for what it is, however, I like that they use the money to further their cause which is resistance to the CCP. If you take the time to read a book like "Made in China" or "They have been harmonized," it may change your perspective. "Made in China" follows one Falun Gong member who is imprisoned, tortured, then freed, then most likely followed to another country and murdered. He explains why Falun Dafa appealed to him, and based on the repression of religion in China, I can understand this longing for some spirituality and Falun Gong was filling this role. I don't see any reason to be offended by the show; if anything it's a window into what is going on in another country.

I already got robbed when I paid for the Shen Yun show, why would I funnel extra money into the Falun Gong pockets by buying the book? I don't like that they use the money to further their hateful message against atheism and their anti-science propaganda. These are more important to me than their resistance to the CCP.

NP. Except what you're saying is a complete fabrication. The author of "Made in China" isn't in Falun Gong, the author is Uyghur, and an award winning journalist who wrote a book about China's human rights abuses (and the New York Times loved it). It does sound like you're unwilling to hear stories and experiences of those who are different from you and with whom you disagree regarding religion or politics. I think the correct term for this is close-minded.

I simply assumed that the book was published through Falun Gong. You cannot accuse me of being closed minded just because I am not interested in a cause that you seem to be very invested in. There is so much to read out there that I have to be selective with what I dedicate my time to. I will not apologize for not being willing to read about and sympathize with a fundamentalist religious sect that hates atheists and science.

You should be interested because I'm sure you own a lot of stuff made in China by Uyghurs and members of Falun Gong. They are used to help factories meet their quotas. The book starts out with a note a woman in the U.S. finds in a bag of Halloween decorations she buys at a local Walmart. It is from an imprisoned Uyghur begging for help.

I condemn the human rights abuse in China. I can do that without reading your book or supporting Falun Gong / paying for Shen Yun shows.

[Anonymous]

Ewww, they will be in Baltimore on February 10-11. Friends don't let friends go to Shen Yun performances.

[Anonymous]

I don't care about religion unless they try to actively kill me or other people. That show is insanely expensive though, so I would never go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ewww, they will be in Baltimore on February 10-11. Friends don't let friends go to Shen Yun performances.

What are you, 12? "ewww"? try to control your own behavior and not the behavior of others.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ewww, they will be in Baltimore on February 10-11. Friends don't let friends go to Shen Yun performances.

What are you, 12? "ewww"? try to control your own behavior and not the behavior of others.

Just out of curiosity: is it okay for you to try controlling other people's behavior?

[Anonymous]

Someone asked for an alternative show, here is something that I just learned about: https://cfa.calendar.gmu.edu/the-peking-acrobats

[Anonymous]

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So I take it you're a man, and not bothered about the heavily misogynist musical offerings from western Europe that are also presented at the Kennedy Center?

Who do you choose to be offended by this particularly, and not other things? It's not like Carmen comes with a warning either!

The musical offerings from Western Europe are culture. Undeniable, now go fight amongst yourselves

[Anonymous]

I’ve heard really terrific things about this show.

[Anonymous]

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So I take it you're a man, and not bothered about the heavily misogynist musical offerings from western Europe that are also presented at the Kennedy Center?

Who do you choose to be offended by this particularly, and not other things? It's not like Carmen comes with a warning either!

The musical offerings from Western Europe are culture. Undeniable, now go fight amongst yourselves

Each show can be placed in the context of the century when it was created. We know the role of patriarchy in the history, we can appreciate how we evolved as a society, and we learn how much more work we have to do. Shen Yun pretends to portray the Chinese culture, but they turn the show into a hodge-podge by mixing in modern right-wing religious fundamentalism (denialism of evolution and hatred toward atheism).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve heard really terrific things about this show.

No you didn't.

[Anonymous]

I thought this was common knowledge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve heard really terrific things about this show.

What you hear depends a lot on who you listen to. Those who listen to me hear terrifying things about this show.

[Anonymous]

Wow, today’s New York Times has a well sourced expose of how they abuse their young dancers.

I am sorry that I can’t link it, because of the paywall. But this really is a cult that should be shut down!!! (Do not give them money by going to the show. The dancers are practically enslaved, forced to work through untreated injuries, shamed for eating, deprived of outside contact, etc).

[Anonymous]

It's Shen Yun season again: I see them advertising on social media, so they are clearly coming back to get more of your money. Remember: friends don't let friends go to Shen Yun!

[Anonymous]

Real friends don’t try to control each other.