Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2

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Two dumb-as-dogshit washed up actors bit off more than they could chew. It'd be hysterical if they have to declare bankruptcy to duck tens of millions in legal billings.

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Was there really no NDA as part of the settlement agreement? Wild.

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Anonymous wrote:Was there really no NDA as part of the settlement agreement? Wild.

That is correct. Though I loved the statement calling this settlement a huge legal win for Blake. Lol. Documentary in the works I'm sure.

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They are wicked bullies who've likely been railroading and ruining other 'smaller' people for decades. They expected a 'nobody' like Baldoni to lay down like every other victim of their wrath has done. But he didn't. And next thing you know they've racked up tens of millions in legal billings, experts, public relations, etc. What goes up must come down. Her zesty hubby can have fun peddling his third rate cell phone company and the gin nobody drinks to support their lavish lifestyle. No studio is ever going to put these toxic morons in a big budget film. They're finished.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m seeing reports that Baldoni might get as much as 10 million for his story.

I can’t imagine how desperate she must’ve to end this. To just stop the bleeding that she started. The Sony executives called it from the start, “she orchestrated all this drama on her own, and it backfired on her.”

It will take months for us to fully unpack and realize how damaging this was for them and how many missteps they had.

Uh no! From the very start some of us said she and her smarmy husband bit more than they could chew.Two years and millions of dollars of legal fees later,they have NOTHING to show for it. Hubris,arrogance, malevolence and a gratuitous desire to harm and humiliate someone who has done nothing to you should come with severe consequences.

And poof! it suddenly ended just in time for the Met Gala! Wow who could've predicted that? Ryan donates the big bucks b/c blake wants to trot the red carpet w/out all this negative publicity so, poof!

Ryan's company, Maximum Exposure, is doing the publicity for The Devil Wears Prada, so yeah, he likely used his influence. But I think Wintuar likes Blake -- but she also likes Bezo's second wife.

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Will she be at the Swift/Kelce wedding? Asking the real questions.

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Anonymous wrote:Will she be at the Swift/Kelce wedding? Asking the real questions.

My magic 8 ball says..."not likely"

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Anonymous wrote:I’m seeing reports that Baldoni might get as much as 10 million for his story.

I can’t imagine how desperate she must’ve to end this. To just stop the bleeding that she started. The Sony executives called it from the start, “she orchestrated all this drama on her own, and it backfired on her.”

It will take months for us to fully unpack and realize how damaging this was for them and how many missteps they had.

Uh no! From the very start some of us said she and her smarmy husband bit more than they could chew.Two years and millions of dollars of legal fees later,they have NOTHING to show for it. Hubris,arrogance, malevolence and a gratuitous desire to harm and humiliate someone who has done nothing to you should come with severe consequences.

And poof! it suddenly ended just in time for the Met Gala! Wow who could've predicted that? Ryan donates the big bucks b/c blake wants to trot the red carpet w/out all this negative publicity so, poof!

Ryan's company, Maximum Exposure, is doing the publicity for The Devil Wears Prada, so yeah, he likely used his influence. But I think Wintuar likes Blake -- but she also likes Bezo's second wife.

Maximum effort is doing some small creative spots for the movie. You can Google who is doing marketing for Devil wear Prada and Disney is doing it. But they have hired out maximum effort for a couple specific spots with brands associated with the film such as L’Oréal.

Interestingly, if you go to maximum efforts website, they do not list the devil wears Prada in their listed projects.

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Anonymous wrote:Will she be at the Swift/Kelce wedding? Asking the real questions.

It seems like their relationship really deteriorated. We may never know what really went down, but it would be surprising if they showed up.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m seeing reports that Baldoni might get as much as 10 million for his story.

I can’t imagine how desperate she must’ve to end this. To just stop the bleeding that she started. The Sony executives called it from the start, “she orchestrated all this drama on her own, and it backfired on her.”

It will take months for us to fully unpack and realize how damaging this was for them and how many missteps they had.

Uh no! From the very start some of us said she and her smarmy husband bit more than they could chew.Two years and millions of dollars of legal fees later,they have NOTHING to show for it. Hubris,arrogance, malevolence and a gratuitous desire to harm and humiliate someone who has done nothing to you should come with severe consequences.

And poof! it suddenly ended just in time for the Met Gala! Wow who could've predicted that? Ryan donates the big bucks b/c blake wants to trot the red carpet w/out all this negative publicity so, poof!

Ryan's company, Maximum Exposure, is doing the publicity for The Devil Wears Prada, so yeah, he likely used his influence. But I think Wintuar likes Blake -- but she also likes Bezo's second wife.

Anna wintour is a brown nosing loser. Fortunately, Vogue is going the way of the phone book.

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Anonymous wrote:The rumors that Blake/Ryan are planning to sue their lawyers for malpractice continue. But, Plot Twist! Mark Garagos (Bryan Freedman’s bestie), said Gottlieb and co made sure to conduct the settlement under California jurisdiction so that they can’t be sued. Apparently there’s a law in California precluding people from suing their lawyers for malpractice if they settle privately. Garagos said there’s a saying that you get the lawyer you deserve lol.

Take a moment to ask yourself why "Bryan Freedman's bestie" is being interviewed about this case, and why he would be sharing info about where the settlement proceeding were held, what Lively's lawyers' strategy and motivations were, or what Lively is now personally considering. Is he a good resource for that info? What is his involvement in the case? Do we think Lively or her lawyers are confiding in him? Let's think.

PP - Mark Garagos is a famous lawyer in his own right who happens to also be freedman’s bestie. He always discloses it when talking about Bryan so it doesn’t seem like he’s being deceptive. But Mark does a podcast with the tmz guy, has a pod with another lawyer, and is a regular guest on Megyn Kelly. Basically he’s always talking and gets paid to do so. He didn’t just come out of the woodwork to talk about lively, he’s a regular commentator. He’s retired but his daughter is a young up and coming defense attorney. She was on the diddy case and is now on the Weinstein appeal.

And... why would he have special insight into what Lively or her lawyers are thinking? He isn't friends with them. But he has a strong motivation to imply negative things about her. So maybe it would be worth it to take the things he says with a grain of salt. Especially since he spends a lot of time gabbing with TMZ and Megyn Kelly, which both traffic in sensationalism.

If there’s one thing we all should have learned from this case, it’s that where there’s smoke there’s fire. The blinds, tmz, they all have sources. These rumors are out there because there’s some there there. Doesn’t mean Blake will sue her lawyers, but it’s reasonable to believe she’s unhappy with them. And it’s also reasonable to believe that they would be strategic enough to inoculate themselves from a lawsuit. Just look at all the trickery they did for Blake.

No, I do not think we have learned that, and you also didn't answer the question.

Bryan Freedman's "bff" has been making the rounds of talk shows saying that Blake is considering suing her lawyers and that her lawyers made sure to conduct settlement negotiations in CA to avoid being sued. This indicates personal, direct knowledge of private conversations between Blake and her husband, Blake and her legal team, and within her legal team. You need to ask yourself:

(1) Why would Blake, her legal team, or anyone associated with them share this information with Bryan Freedman's "bff"?

(2) Could there be another motive for Bryan Freedman's friend to spread this rumor on podcasts and talk shows? Is it possible that by speculating about these things that he could not possibly have any personal knowledge, of he gets a conversation started online that is unfavorable to Blake, which is positive for both his close friend, Bryan Freedman, and Freedman's clients?

If you've watched this entire case unfold and are still convinced that when a *clearly* biased person speculates wildly on camera, that must reflect the "real truth" that is being hidden from you by the "lame stream" media, then you have learned exactly nothing.

Dp, but why would Brian Freedman care whether Blake is paying her lawyers or thinking about suing them? Further, it is obvious that her lawyers made some very bad strategic calls, and that she ran up some very large bills. Now maybe Blake and Ryan made those bad strategic calls with full warning from the lawyers of the consequences, or maybe the lawyers were hamstrung because there simply wasn't good evidence for Blake's claims, or she destroyed evidence before the legal case really got going. Who knows? But given how one sided the settlement was in WF's favor, how much she spent on legal fees, and the really questionable legal strategy, it isn't a reach that Blake and Ryan are looking for someone to blame.

Either you can't even see how you are just buying into a narrative that was literally designed by Baldoni's PR team, or you are happily participating in pushing that narrative knowing what it is.

You ask why Bryan Freedman would care about whether Blake is paying her lawyers or thinking about suing them. Exactly. Why would he, or his "BFF" care about these things? They aren't relevant to the case. Yet here is his "BFF" going on Megyn Kelly of all places to wildly speculate about what Blake or her legal team are doing, to even weigh in on whether her legal team arranged to conduct settlement negotiations in a specific location in anticipation of Blake suing them? Why? Why is this a topic of conversation, why is he speculating about it at all, why is he touted and introduced as "Bryan Freedman's BFF" as though this someone qualifies him to speak intelligently on this subject that you just said yourself is not something that has anything to do with Bryan Freedman? And then you are treating his wild speculation as some kind of indication of reality even though he has no inside knowledge and no basis for the speculation. He doesn't even know Blake. He doesn't know her lawyers.

Bryan Freedman's best friend went on a podcast hosted by Bryan Freedman's client, Megyn Kelly, to speculate wildly about what Blake Lively is thinking and doing in private, and what her lawyers are thinking and doing in private, and then people who are fans of Bryan Freedman and his clients are repeating this speculation online like it's verified fact. This is the slop system. None of that is real. It's just BS intended to help Bryan Freedman and his various clients make money, at the expense of truth and the reputations of the people they gossip about. And you are gleefully participating.

You literally sound insane. Rumors about Blake being unhappy with her lawyers appeared many places before it was discussed on Kelly's show. It's not a big conspiracy -- Lively wound up with a horrendous result. I've been a litigator for two decades and have never seen a settlement where a plaintiff got zero dollars and no NDA. Her lawyers chose to file in NY when they needed California law to apply, and then lost on choice of law. Manatt filed a Doe lawsuit that was frankly unethical in the extreme. It would be strange if we weren't hearing these rumors.

Would the decision had been different if case had been filed in CA? I am not close to this but I thought the court ruled she wasn’t an employee so couldn’t sue for sexual harassment. It is also crazy how long it took to get this decision and the money wasted on discovery etc.

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Anonymous wrote:The rumors that Blake/Ryan are planning to sue their lawyers for malpractice continue. But, Plot Twist! Mark Garagos (Bryan Freedman’s bestie), said Gottlieb and co made sure to conduct the settlement under California jurisdiction so that they can’t be sued. Apparently there’s a law in California precluding people from suing their lawyers for malpractice if they settle privately. Garagos said there’s a saying that you get the lawyer you deserve lol.

Take a moment to ask yourself why "Bryan Freedman's bestie" is being interviewed about this case, and why he would be sharing info about where the settlement proceeding were held, what Lively's lawyers' strategy and motivations were, or what Lively is now personally considering. Is he a good resource for that info? What is his involvement in the case? Do we think Lively or her lawyers are confiding in him? Let's think.

PP - Mark Garagos is a famous lawyer in his own right who happens to also be freedman’s bestie. He always discloses it when talking about Bryan so it doesn’t seem like he’s being deceptive. But Mark does a podcast with the tmz guy, has a pod with another lawyer, and is a regular guest on Megyn Kelly. Basically he’s always talking and gets paid to do so. He didn’t just come out of the woodwork to talk about lively, he’s a regular commentator. He’s retired but his daughter is a young up and coming defense attorney. She was on the diddy case and is now on the Weinstein appeal.

And... why would he have special insight into what Lively or her lawyers are thinking? He isn't friends with them. But he has a strong motivation to imply negative things about her. So maybe it would be worth it to take the things he says with a grain of salt. Especially since he spends a lot of time gabbing with TMZ and Megyn Kelly, which both traffic in sensationalism.

If there’s one thing we all should have learned from this case, it’s that where there’s smoke there’s fire. The blinds, tmz, they all have sources. These rumors are out there because there’s some there there. Doesn’t mean Blake will sue her lawyers, but it’s reasonable to believe she’s unhappy with them. And it’s also reasonable to believe that they would be strategic enough to inoculate themselves from a lawsuit. Just look at all the trickery they did for Blake.

No, I do not think we have learned that, and you also didn't answer the question.

Bryan Freedman's "bff" has been making the rounds of talk shows saying that Blake is considering suing her lawyers and that her lawyers made sure to conduct settlement negotiations in CA to avoid being sued. This indicates personal, direct knowledge of private conversations between Blake and her husband, Blake and her legal team, and within her legal team. You need to ask yourself:

(1) Why would Blake, her legal team, or anyone associated with them share this information with Bryan Freedman's "bff"?

(2) Could there be another motive for Bryan Freedman's friend to spread this rumor on podcasts and talk shows? Is it possible that by speculating about these things that he could not possibly have any personal knowledge, of he gets a conversation started online that is unfavorable to Blake, which is positive for both his close friend, Bryan Freedman, and Freedman's clients?

If you've watched this entire case unfold and are still convinced that when a *clearly* biased person speculates wildly on camera, that must reflect the "real truth" that is being hidden from you by the "lame stream" media, then you have learned exactly nothing.

Dp, but why would Brian Freedman care whether Blake is paying her lawyers or thinking about suing them? Further, it is obvious that her lawyers made some very bad strategic calls, and that she ran up some very large bills. Now maybe Blake and Ryan made those bad strategic calls with full warning from the lawyers of the consequences, or maybe the lawyers were hamstrung because there simply wasn't good evidence for Blake's claims, or she destroyed evidence before the legal case really got going. Who knows? But given how one sided the settlement was in WF's favor, how much she spent on legal fees, and the really questionable legal strategy, it isn't a reach that Blake and Ryan are looking for someone to blame.

Either you can't even see how you are just buying into a narrative that was literally designed by Baldoni's PR team, or you are happily participating in pushing that narrative knowing what it is.

You ask why Bryan Freedman would care about whether Blake is paying her lawyers or thinking about suing them. Exactly. Why would he, or his "BFF" care about these things? They aren't relevant to the case. Yet here is his "BFF" going on Megyn Kelly of all places to wildly speculate about what Blake or her legal team are doing, to even weigh in on whether her legal team arranged to conduct settlement negotiations in a specific location in anticipation of Blake suing them? Why? Why is this a topic of conversation, why is he speculating about it at all, why is he touted and introduced as "Bryan Freedman's BFF" as though this someone qualifies him to speak intelligently on this subject that you just said yourself is not something that has anything to do with Bryan Freedman? And then you are treating his wild speculation as some kind of indication of reality even though he has no inside knowledge and no basis for the speculation. He doesn't even know Blake. He doesn't know her lawyers.

Bryan Freedman's best friend went on a podcast hosted by Bryan Freedman's client, Megyn Kelly, to speculate wildly about what Blake Lively is thinking and doing in private, and what her lawyers are thinking and doing in private, and then people who are fans of Bryan Freedman and his clients are repeating this speculation online like it's verified fact. This is the slop system. None of that is real. It's just BS intended to help Bryan Freedman and his various clients make money, at the expense of truth and the reputations of the people they gossip about. And you are gleefully participating.

You literally sound insane. Rumors about Blake being unhappy with her lawyers appeared many places before it was discussed on Kelly's show. It's not a big conspiracy -- Lively wound up with a horrendous result. I've been a litigator for two decades and have never seen a settlement where a plaintiff got zero dollars and no NDA. Her lawyers chose to file in NY when they needed California law to apply, and then lost on choice of law. Manatt filed a Doe lawsuit that was frankly unethical in the extreme. It would be strange if we weren't hearing these rumors.

Would the decision had been different if case had been filed in CA? I am not close to this but I thought the court ruled she wasn’t an employee so couldn’t sue for sexual harassment. It is also crazy how long it took to get this decision and the money wasted on discovery etc.

Not just money - discovery was humiliating for Blake and Ryan and while not career ending for Taylor and Matt Damon, certainly embarrassing and must have felt violating.

But anyway, it seems like Judge Liman certainly carefully considered everything and said that the behavior did not meet the standard of sexual harassment. Especially given the power that Blake wielded on set. So no I don’t think California would’ve made much of a difference for that.

I truly don’t think anything the lawyers could have done would’ve made that much of a difference. Their whole retaliation campaign argument was based on a bot army and one was never found. They tried to cover by saying it was untraceable, but that’s not really how things work. They subpoenaed over 100 content creators and found nothing, no coordination. Nobody was paid. It seems like Jed Wallace does some shady things but I certainly don’t think he’s smart enough to cover up a bot army. Maybe that was the intent and they saw what was happening organically and decided not to do it, but the fact of the matter is they found evidence of nothing, other than the general PR BS that every celeb does and Blake was certainly doing a thousand times more.

The big mistake the lawyers made was ever letting it get this far. Maybe they convinced her filing the CRD and doing the New York Times articles was enough and he could never come back from that and it would end there. That was a grave mistake. But then they just kept doubling down at every turn for well over a year.

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Anonymous wrote:Um, you know what else wasn't real? Blake's (Ryan's) allegations. It was BS intended to make them money at the expense of the truth and reputation of the actual director. And their arse kissing hangers on gleefully participated.

Every one of her allegations was truthful. It was deemed not to be SH (or she was deemed an independent contractor who can't bring SH claims) but they were all real allegations. And the judge explicitly said that it was reasonable for her to have believed she was sexually harassed when these things happened.

Baldoni is a bad director who no one liked and even his friends and business partners know to be immature and hard to work with. He ruined his own reputation. If he wanted to maintain a good reputation in Hollywood, he should perhaps not have asked is lead actress's trainer about her weight, kept bringing up his porn addiction on set, kept talking to Blake about her dead father, and kept offending actresses on set by calling them hot, saying he must have "missed the HR meeting", or saying he could talk like this because his wife was there. He also jut ran a disorganized and unprofessional set that many people complained about.

Blake and Ryan didn't do any of that. I don't even like Blake and Ryan but Baldoni ruined his own rep by sucking at his job. How about make this adult man take responsibility for his own behavior instead of blaming it all on multiple women, his "neurodiversity", or Ryan Reynolds. I mean, grow up.

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Anonymous wrote:Um, you know what else wasn't real? Blake's (Ryan's) allegations. It was BS intended to make them money at the expense of the truth and reputation of the actual director. And their arse kissing hangers on gleefully participated.

Every one of her allegations was truthful. It was deemed not to be SH (or she was deemed an independent contractor who can't bring SH claims) but they were all real allegations. And the judge explicitly said that it was reasonable for her to have believed she was sexually harassed when these things happened.

Baldoni is a bad director who no one liked and even his friends and business partners know to be immature and hard to work with. He ruined his own reputation. If he wanted to maintain a good reputation in Hollywood, he should perhaps not have asked is lead actress's trainer about her weight, kept bringing up his porn addiction on set, kept talking to Blake about her dead father, and kept offending actresses on set by calling them hot, saying he must have "missed the HR meeting", or saying he could talk like this because his wife was there. He also jut ran a disorganized and unprofessional set that many people complained about.

Blake and Ryan didn't do any of that. I don't even like Blake and Ryan but Baldoni ruined his own rep by sucking at his job. How about make this adult man take responsibility for his own behavior instead of blaming it all on multiple women, his "neurodiversity", or Ryan Reynolds. I mean, grow up.

NP. Even if all of this is true, why in the world would Blake and Ryan spend all this time and money on lawsuits because this guy was weird/immature/an a-hole/bad at his job? By the time you get to adulthood, literally everyone has had to deal with a sh*tty boss or crappy job at one time or another. That doesn't make it lawsuit-worthy-- or even if it IS lawsuit-worthy, it's very rarely worth the time, energy, and money to bring the lawsuit. Any sane person would move on with their life.

They went the full-scale nuclear option for no other reason than exacting revenge on their perceived enemies, but spinning it as "I am standing up for all victimized women everywhere. Look at what a hero I am." It's straight out of the narcissist's playbook, basically.

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Anonymous wrote:Um, you know what else wasn't real? Blake's (Ryan's) allegations. It was BS intended to make them money at the expense of the truth and reputation of the actual director. And their arse kissing hangers on gleefully participated.

Every one of her allegations was truthful. It was deemed not to be SH (or she was deemed an independent contractor who can't bring SH claims) but they were all real allegations. And the judge explicitly said that it was reasonable for her to have believed she was sexually harassed when these things happened.

Baldoni is a bad director who no one liked and even his friends and business partners know to be immature and hard to work with. He ruined his own reputation. If he wanted to maintain a good reputation in Hollywood, he should perhaps not have asked is lead actress's trainer about her weight, kept bringing up his porn addiction on set, kept talking to Blake about her dead father, and kept offending actresses on set by calling them hot, saying he must have "missed the HR meeting", or saying he could talk like this because his wife was there. He also jut ran a disorganized and unprofessional set that many people complained about.

Blake and Ryan didn't do any of that. I don't even like Blake and Ryan but Baldoni ruined his own rep by sucking at his job. How about make this adult man take responsibility for his own behavior instead of blaming it all on multiple women, his "neurodiversity", or Ryan Reynolds. I mean, grow up.

Why does this read like a 12 year wrote it? While much of the third paragraph is inaccurate, even taking it on its face, the alleged “parade of horrible” is pretty meh. He talked to Blake about her dead father? Stop the presses. He asked how much Blake weighed? The horror. Talk about having zero sense of what actual mismanagement or sexual harassment would look like.