Roe v Wade struck down

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Anonymous wrote:EMTALA + anti-abortion states = a huge mess
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/19/oklahoma-abortion-emtala/

We’ll find out for sure soon but …
Supreme Court appears to side with Biden admin in abortion case, according to draft briefly posted on website
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/26/politics/supreme-court-abortion-idaho-bloomberg/index.html

They did not side with Biden really. They said we will decide later (like after the election).

True, but for now, hospitals in Texas and Idaho must perform abortions if the patient’s life or health is at risk if they don’t, which wasn’t the case before. Also, the Fifth Circuit is batsh!t if a SCOTUS this conservative is batting them back this much.

A lot of women haven’t been able to get emergency abortions in a lot of forced birther states because they have to be clearly closer to death than to life. This isn’t a win. Having a bunch of old fascist toadies make medical decisions is still an all around bad idea.

Cite please?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:EMTALA + anti-abortion states = a huge mess
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/19/oklahoma-abortion-emtala/

We’ll find out for sure soon but …
Supreme Court appears to side with Biden admin in abortion case, according to draft briefly posted on website
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/26/politics/supreme-court-abortion-idaho-bloomberg/index.html

They did not side with Biden really. They said we will decide later (like after the election).

True, but for now, hospitals in Texas and Idaho must perform abortions if the patient’s life or health is at risk if they don’t, which wasn’t the case before. Also, the Fifth Circuit is batsh!t if a SCOTUS this conservative is batting them back this much.

A lot of women haven’t been able to get emergency abortions in a lot of forced birther states because they have to be clearly closer to death than to life. This isn’t a win. Having a bunch of old fascist toadies make medical decisions is still an all around bad idea.

Cite please?

There is a 10 year old in Ohio that can help you out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:EMTALA + anti-abortion states = a huge mess
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/19/oklahoma-abortion-emtala/

We’ll find out for sure soon but …
Supreme Court appears to side with Biden admin in abortion case, according to draft briefly posted on website
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/26/politics/supreme-court-abortion-idaho-bloomberg/index.html

They did not side with Biden really. They said we will decide later (like after the election).

True, but for now, hospitals in Texas and Idaho must perform abortions if the patient’s life or health is at risk if they don’t, which wasn’t the case before. Also, the Fifth Circuit is batsh!t if a SCOTUS this conservative is batting them back this much.

A lot of women haven’t been able to get emergency abortions in a lot of forced birther states because they have to be clearly closer to death than to life. This isn’t a win. Having a bunch of old fascist toadies make medical decisions is still an all around bad idea.

Cite please?

Dude, if you havent seen these stories yet that is on you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:EMTALA + anti-abortion states = a huge mess
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/19/oklahoma-abortion-emtala/

We’ll find out for sure soon but …
Supreme Court appears to side with Biden admin in abortion case, according to draft briefly posted on website
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/26/politics/supreme-court-abortion-idaho-bloomberg/index.html

They did not side with Biden really. They said we will decide later (like after the election).

True, but for now, hospitals in Texas and Idaho must perform abortions if the patient’s life or health is at risk if they don’t, which wasn’t the case before. Also, the Fifth Circuit is batsh!t if a SCOTUS this conservative is batting them back this much.

A lot of women haven’t been able to get emergency abortions in a lot of forced birther states because they have to be clearly closer to death than to life. This isn’t a win. Having a bunch of old fascist toadies make medical decisions is still an all around bad idea.

Cite please?

https://www.npr.org/2024/04/25/1246990306/more-emergency-flights-for-pregnant-patients--in-idaho

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:EMTALA + anti-abortion states = a huge mess
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/19/oklahoma-abortion-emtala/

We’ll find out for sure soon but …
Supreme Court appears to side with Biden admin in abortion case, according to draft briefly posted on website
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/26/politics/supreme-court-abortion-idaho-bloomberg/index.html

They did not side with Biden really. They said we will decide later (like after the election).

True, but for now, hospitals in Texas and Idaho must perform abortions if the patient’s life or health is at risk if they don’t, which wasn’t the case before. Also, the Fifth Circuit is batsh!t if a SCOTUS this conservative is batting them back this much.

A lot of women haven’t been able to get emergency abortions in a lot of forced birther states because they have to be clearly closer to death than to life. This isn’t a win. Having a bunch of old fascist toadies make medical decisions is still an all around bad idea.

Cite please?

Do you never follow the news? If you read newspapers and listen to radio/tv news outlets on a regular basis you’d have learned about numerous such stories. So are you just ignorant or trolling?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:EMTALA + anti-abortion states = a huge mess
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/19/oklahoma-abortion-emtala/

We’ll find out for sure soon but …
Supreme Court appears to side with Biden admin in abortion case, according to draft briefly posted on website
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/26/politics/supreme-court-abortion-idaho-bloomberg/index.html

They did not side with Biden really. They said we will decide later (like after the election).

True, but for now, hospitals in Texas and Idaho must perform abortions if the patient’s life or health is at risk if they don’t, which wasn’t the case before. Also, the Fifth Circuit is batsh!t if a SCOTUS this conservative is batting them back this much.

A lot of women haven’t been able to get emergency abortions in a lot of forced birther states because they have to be clearly closer to death than to life. This isn’t a win. Having a bunch of old fascist toadies make medical decisions is still an all around bad idea.

Cite please?

Dude, if you havent seen these stories yet that is on you.

+1

I’m not spoon feeding anything to anyone anymore. If forced birthers want to play the brain dead “cite please” game, they can go play it somewhere else. A lot of forced birthers think it’s cute making us run in circles to “prove” something that’s been well reported, and well cited in this thread.

Misogynists really think they have November in the bag. And maybe they do; we’re all adults here and lived through 2016. But I sure wouldn’t be so confident, especially when the GOP is once again making their tent smaller. The three GOP state senators who filibustered against South Carolina’s abortion ban all lost their primaries. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/three-gop-state-senators-filibustered-sc-abortion-ban-lost-primaries-rcna158965 The GOP stands for nothing but the creation of the US as a monster along the fascism-white supremacist-Christian nationalism continuum. There’s nothing else there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:EMTALA + anti-abortion states = a huge mess
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/19/oklahoma-abortion-emtala/

We’ll find out for sure soon but …
Supreme Court appears to side with Biden admin in abortion case, according to draft briefly posted on website
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/26/politics/supreme-court-abortion-idaho-bloomberg/index.html

They did not side with Biden really. They said we will decide later (like after the election).

True, but for now, hospitals in Texas and Idaho must perform abortions if the patient’s life or health is at risk if they don’t, which wasn’t the case before. Also, the Fifth Circuit is batsh!t if a SCOTUS this conservative is batting them back this much.

A lot of women haven’t been able to get emergency abortions in a lot of forced birther states because they have to be clearly closer to death than to life. This isn’t a win. Having a bunch of old fascist toadies make medical decisions is still an all around bad idea.

Cite please?

Do you never follow the news? If you read newspapers and listen to radio/tv news outlets on a regular basis you’d have learned about numerous such stories. So are you just ignorant or trolling?

It’s always this:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:EMTALA + anti-abortion states = a huge mess
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/19/oklahoma-abortion-emtala/

We’ll find out for sure soon but …
Supreme Court appears to side with Biden admin in abortion case, according to draft briefly posted on website
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/26/politics/supreme-court-abortion-idaho-bloomberg/index.html

They did not side with Biden really. They said we will decide later (like after the election).

True, but for now, hospitals in Texas and Idaho must perform abortions if the patient’s life or health is at risk if they don’t, which wasn’t the case before. Also, the Fifth Circuit is batsh!t if a SCOTUS this conservative is batting them back this much.

A lot of women haven’t been able to get emergency abortions in a lot of forced birther states because they have to be clearly closer to death than to life. This isn’t a win. Having a bunch of old fascist toadies make medical decisions is still an all around bad idea.

Cite please?

You need to learn to use Google. It took all of 12 seconds to get dozens of citations.

This doesn't have specific cases, but definitely references the many cases that are being reported nationwide

Every state abortion ban has an exception to save a mother’s life. But what qualifies as a life-threatening medical emergency in Texas may not be enough for a doctor in Idaho, and even hospitals within the same state can look at an identical case and reach different conclusions.

The legal and medical murkiness has physicians around the country begging state officials to clarify when they can terminate pregnancies without risking legal peril. And as they await guidance from states, stories of pregnant patients turned away from hospitals in medical emergencies or forced to wait until their vitals crash have become emblematic of the confusion unleashed when the Supreme Court’s Dobbs decision ended the federal right to an abortion in 2022.

Because of this issue, in many states, emergency rooms are declining to even treat a women if she is pregnant (even if she does not want an abortion). So thanks to the forced birthers, pregnant women, whether they want an abortion or just help with a pregnancy or abdominal pain are being turned away. The laws are killing many babies because the medical staff do not know how to handle the legal issues and so they refuse to offer any medical care for pregnant women.

https://apnews.com/article/pregnancy-emergency-care-abortion-supreme-court-roe-9ce6c87c8fc653c840654de1ae5f7a1c

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:EMTALA + anti-abortion states = a huge mess
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/19/oklahoma-abortion-emtala/

We’ll find out for sure soon but …
Supreme Court appears to side with Biden admin in abortion case, according to draft briefly posted on website
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/26/politics/supreme-court-abortion-idaho-bloomberg/index.html

They did not side with Biden really. They said we will decide later (like after the election).

True, but for now, hospitals in Texas and Idaho must perform abortions if the patient’s life or health is at risk if they don’t, which wasn’t the case before. Also, the Fifth Circuit is batsh!t if a SCOTUS this conservative is batting them back this much.

A lot of women haven’t been able to get emergency abortions in a lot of forced birther states because they have to be clearly closer to death than to life. This isn’t a win. Having a bunch of old fascist toadies make medical decisions is still an all around bad idea.

Cite please?

Good lord. Just scroll back a few pages. There are so many stories of women being sent home to bleed out/be close to death before they could get emergency services. Here are a few to get you started.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65935189
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/11/15/1135882310/miscarriage-hemorrhage-abortion-law-ohio
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/07/26/1111280165/because-of-texas-abortion-law-her-wanted-pregnancy-became-a-medical-nightmare
https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/22/health/ohio-abortion-patient-doctor/index.html

[Anonymous]

They're coming for birth control.

[Anonymous]

SCOTUS could have stopped this madness, but they chose not to.

[Anonymous]

this seems alarming

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:this seems alarming

It is alarming.

Worse still is the media is scarcely touching on any of this. They’re happy to drop us into Gilead because their right wing billionaire owners want to pay even less money than they do. A fascist government doesn’t bother them.

(Has Rick Wilson ever fully apologized for his hand in the creation of today’s GOP? I’m not on twitter anymore so I remember Republicans against Trump but what I want to hear to awareness of what he did).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SCOTUS could have stopped this madness, but they chose not to.

Heartbreaking. These are people’s lives.

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But these we just innocent bAbiEs!!!

Another impact these bans have: economic hardship. Women forced to carry a non viable fetus is more likely to be put on bedrest, or reduced working. Then the birth costs $$$. Even the best insurance has a deductible. Then funeral arrangements $$$. We’re talking an easy 10k unnecessarily spent.

I won’t talk about the emotional costs because we know MAGA could give a 💩 about that.

Oh! Add more costs! At least some of them would have ended up living for a brief period, and depending on the hospital’s policy they might have thrown the kitchen sink, treatment wise, at the newborn, costing thousands in NICU bills.

This has probably bankrupted a few families already.

Just to give people an idea. I had twins that were born 6 weeks premature (34 weeks gestation). One had underdeveloped lungs and developed Respiratory Distress Syndrome (RDS). Basically his lungs could not extract enough oxygen from the air he was breathing. Within 12 hours, he was on a ventillator with almost pure oxygen and when that was insufficient, he underwent a surgical procedure where a surfactent was applied to his lungs which allowed his alveoli to process oxygen better. Within 2 hours of the procedure, he was breathing much more normally. By 12 hours post-surgery he was off of the ventillator. It was miraculous. The twins spent a total of 16 days in the NICU between this procedure and getting them to eat normally, gain weight and develop enough to maintain their body temperature outside of an incubator. All pretty normal stuff for premies. The NICU totals for my children were approximiately $170K per. And our insurance only wanted to cover about $100K of the costs per child trying to claim various issues. I spent a year fighting with them. A year, to the day that the twins came home from the hospital, I finally sent the last form to the insurance and got a revised claim from them. All told, I ended up paying about $13K out of pocket for both.

And this is for normal premie treatment and one extraordinary treatment. And my children were otherwise healthy babies (and are about to turn 13 this summer).

Now, imagine for a child with a congenital syndrome that requires massive amounts of medical attention, treatment, and remediation just to survive a week or two in the NICU and die. These laws are requiring pregnant women, who know that their child will not survive more than a few weeks, to carry the child, to undergo obstetric treatment for the remaining 20 weeks of pregnancy, to risk their own health and fertility, to pay for that medical care in pregnancy, then to give birth to a child suffering pain from the congenital disorder, and then to have NICU space, time, equipment, staff, attend to this child who were terminal before birth, taking away needed NICU space from babies with conditions that they can survive. Who is paying for all this medical treatment, medications, equipment, remediation for these infants?

I was able to handle $13K out of $340K worth or medical care and after a year of fighting was able to get the insurance company to handle the rest. But there are many, many families out there that cannot handle even $13K worth of medical expenses and may have weaker insurance coverage than I had. What if the insurance carrier will not handle the additional costs? What if they can't get the insurance company to bear the NICU costs? Are you going to make parents of much wanted, but terminally ill babies, go bankrupt or have to sell their home just to handle the medical expenses for a pregnancy that they were forced to carry to term just because you didn't want to allow them to abort a terminal infant with a congenital disorder that was incompatible with life?

These politicians are playing God, but they are destroying many lives over their politics.

Cue MAGA - if you can't afforD Kids then Keep your leGs cloSed.

I mean are they wrong though?

Forced birthers like to pretend that they care about life, but scratch that pond scum and you can see the PP for the monster that he is. It’s about controlling and punishing women and incels like this PP are mad as hops that their personalities have driven women far away from them. Killing women, breaking their hearts, destroying their families, robbing them of their future fertility - it’s all good because it punishes those nasty women for not jumping in the sack with them. Of course if they ever had jumped in the sack with that man, we know the names they’d call the women who had sex with them.

So vote carefully in November. It’s a straight Democratic ticket. The GOP and its misogyny must actually start getting crushed.

Millions of “forced birthers” are women who have been pregnant, given birth, and suffered miscarriages.