New TJ principal announced

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Anonymous wrote:It's only blind if one chooses to close their eyes.

It's race blind, period.

Stop spreading lies.

why do you bring race into every discussion?

The PP lied and said that "skin color" is one of the "factors can get an admission into TJ".

Republicans are lying POSs.

Right

The new standard for TJ admission is “experience factors,”

- which is not at all a proxy for race; nooooo. Nope.

Not likely to produce the same result

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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

For a change, the new principal has STEM background. Merit is back, beginning with the new principal.

Bonitatibus has a computer science background.

Maybe for a change you can try to post something truthful?

She has a what?

It says she graduated from indiana university of pennsylvania in communications education.

Nothing about computer science, english or math. I'm not saying you need a degree to teach those subjects at the high school level but just saying you have a background in computer science doesn't make it so.

I think she is perfectly well qualified to be a principal of a base school but TJ needs a principal that understands gifted education and why it is not a waste of taxpayer money like so many on DCUM seem to think.

If you can say that he “has a STEM background”, then you can say that about her as well.

Both studied STEM in college; both went directly into teaching; both taught math in the past.

He did more STEM in college but that doesn’t mean she did zero.

Does a college student who takes a required distributional course in "physics for poets" count as studying STEM in college by your definition?

She did enough to be qualified to teach math and has mentioned her background in computer science in college.

Is she the STEMiest person out there? No. But she does have a “STEM background” if we are considering his background to be a “STEM background” (AKA studied and taught STEM topics decades ago).

Looks like you are having a hard time accepting it. But FCPS is letting her go due to poor performance.

They didn’t let her go. She received a promotion.

I have no problem with the transition - Mukai sounds great. I just hate liars.

Moved to a back office role, no one hears about or cares. Just glad TJ is turning the corner with qualified leadership.

Bonitatibus is qualified.

She has lost the confidence of the students, the faculty and the parents. She could no longer be effective in her role. She chose political alignment with the FCPS board over the mission of the school.

#fakenews She was a great principal who did great things for TJ and the county.

She facilitated a push to change admission standards that discriminated against asians.
Asians constituted the overwhelming majority of her students and families.
The asians at at TJ either hate her or hate their own race.

Fake news from RWNJ trolls.

No discrimination.

Many Asian people, including TJ students and alum, support the change.

It's so laughable really. I mean the school is majority Asian. Asian enrollment is at a historic high and the largest beneficiaries of the change were again Asians.

Asians are the only racial group[ thaty saw a decline in admissions.

You mean, Asian students from affluent families.

The Asian students from low-income families saw the biggest increase in representation.

When you data scrape subsets of data to find a subset that supports your argument, you have a weak argument.
We measure racial discrimination along racial lines and you are using a subset of a racial group that has seen an increase.
The racial group that saw the largest increase were white students.
The only group that saw a decrease were asian students.
This was by design.

Since we are talking about the analysis in the court case — the justices called out the low-income students as highest beneficiaries — the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students also saw huge increases in representation.

If we also look at actual enrollment and yield, we see that white students didn’t have the largest increase, even though they make up the plurality. They just aren’t as interested in TJ - lower application and acceptance rates.

Circuit court judges are not called justices.
They were looking for reasons to avoid acknowledging the racial discrimination.

When you analyze racial discrimination, you look at the racial group, you don't pore over the data until you find some subset of that discriminated group that did better than average.

If we are talking about racial discrimination in admissions, we look at admissions data, not matriculation data.

Again, the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students saw huge increases in representation.

Before the change, the admission rate for black students was 25% of the admission rate for Asian students. Then, went up to 75% after the change. Still less than the 80% guideline.

The disparate impact for black students has lessened significantly but still remains after the change.

So by your explanation this admissions change is nothing but racial percentage manipulation.

No, the admissions change was about opening up TJ to all middle schools.

It's always been open to all middle schools.

in spirit only since kids at the less affluent schools couldn't afford the prep where they get to practice using the actual test questions.

And yet the wealthiest racial group is under-represente-ed at TJ.

This is 100% false. The wealthiest racial demographic in Northern Virginia by some distance is South Asians, and they are *wildly* over-represented at TJ. Have been ever since about 2010.

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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

For a change, the new principal has STEM background. Merit is back, beginning with the new principal.

Bonitatibus has a computer science background.

Maybe for a change you can try to post something truthful?

She has a what?

It says she graduated from indiana university of pennsylvania in communications education.

Nothing about computer science, english or math. I'm not saying you need a degree to teach those subjects at the high school level but just saying you have a background in computer science doesn't make it so.

I think she is perfectly well qualified to be a principal of a base school but TJ needs a principal that understands gifted education and why it is not a waste of taxpayer money like so many on DCUM seem to think.

If you can say that he “has a STEM background”, then you can say that about her as well.

Both studied STEM in college; both went directly into teaching; both taught math in the past.

He did more STEM in college but that doesn’t mean she did zero.

Does a college student who takes a required distributional course in "physics for poets" count as studying STEM in college by your definition?

She did enough to be qualified to teach math and has mentioned her background in computer science in college.

Is she the STEMiest person out there? No. But she does have a “STEM background” if we are considering his background to be a “STEM background” (AKA studied and taught STEM topics decades ago).

Looks like you are having a hard time accepting it. But FCPS is letting her go due to poor performance.

They didn’t let her go. She received a promotion.

I have no problem with the transition - Mukai sounds great. I just hate liars.

Moved to a back office role, no one hears about or cares. Just glad TJ is turning the corner with qualified leadership.

Bonitatibus is qualified.

She has lost the confidence of the students, the faculty and the parents. She could no longer be effective in her role. She chose political alignment with the FCPS board over the mission of the school.

#fakenews She was a great principal who did great things for TJ and the county.

She facilitated a push to change admission standards that discriminated against asians.
Asians constituted the overwhelming majority of her students and families.
The asians at at TJ either hate her or hate their own race.

Fake news from RWNJ trolls.

No discrimination.

Many Asian people, including TJ students and alum, support the change.

It's so laughable really. I mean the school is majority Asian. Asian enrollment is at a historic high and the largest beneficiaries of the change were again Asians.

Asians are the only racial group[ thaty saw a decline in admissions.

You mean, Asian students from affluent families.

The Asian students from low-income families saw the biggest increase in representation.

When you data scrape subsets of data to find a subset that supports your argument, you have a weak argument.
We measure racial discrimination along racial lines and you are using a subset of a racial group that has seen an increase.
The racial group that saw the largest increase were white students.
The only group that saw a decrease were asian students.
This was by design.

Since we are talking about the analysis in the court case — the justices called out the low-income students as highest beneficiaries — the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students also saw huge increases in representation.

If we also look at actual enrollment and yield, we see that white students didn’t have the largest increase, even though they make up the plurality. They just aren’t as interested in TJ - lower application and acceptance rates.

Circuit court judges are not called justices.
They were looking for reasons to avoid acknowledging the racial discrimination.

When you analyze racial discrimination, you look at the racial group, you don't pore over the data until you find some subset of that discriminated group that did better than average.

If we are talking about racial discrimination in admissions, we look at admissions data, not matriculation data.

Again, the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students saw huge increases in representation.

Before the change, the admission rate for black students was 25% of the admission rate for Asian students. Then, went up to 75% after the change. Still less than the 80% guideline.

The disparate impact for black students has lessened significantly but still remains after the change.

So by your explanation this admissions change is nothing but racial percentage manipulation.

No, the admissions change was about opening up TJ to all middle schools.

You were the one who posted about the racial manipulation that happened with the admissions change. But when you're called out, you start lying, claiming it's about opening it to middle schools—when it was always open. Then you start blaming the top four middle school students as rich kids. All your posts are repeat this BS.

We have been discussing many different aspects of the admissions change and you are misrepresenting what was said.

Discrimination:
**The current admissions process does not discriminate against Asian students.
**The old admissions process did present disparate impact for black students when you compared the admissions rate for those kids vs. Asian kids (25% is far below the 80% guideline).

Admissions process:
**The feeder schools have significantly more wealthy families than the MSs which had zero representation before the change.
**The old admissions process presented many hurdles that made it more difficult for kids from lower-income families to navigate and successfully compete.
**The number and rate of kids admitted to the pool (and TJ) was generally lower for kids who attended MSs with higher FRE %s.
**For the class of 2024, there was less than 1% of the admitted class who came from lower-income families.
**The current process allocates a handful of seats to all MSs so that there is a higher chance that kids from MSs with high FRE % will be admitted, increasing representation from kids across the county.

Discrimination:
**The current process was a result of a race focused conversation about racial representation at TJ. If there is discriminatory intent behind the change then you don't analyze it the same way.
**Academic ability is not equally distributed between races. The 80% guideline is not relevant here. You should not see the 80% rule invoked in any of the opinions.

Admissions process:
**Academic ability is not evenly distributed geographically
**Removing the $100 application fee was a great idea. Removing the test was not.
**Academic ability is not evenly distributed economically.
**The current process allocates 450 out of 550 seats based on geography.

1) The application fee paid for the exam. You can’t reinstate a standardized exam without either the taxpayer or the applicant footing the bill.

2) “There are an embarrassingly low number of Black, Hispanic, and poor people admitted to TJ” does not equate to discriminatory intent. Rather, properly understood, it is an acknowledgment of an existing discriminatory admissions policy that just happens to discriminate in a way that appeals to your understanding of academic merit. And that understanding fails to acknowledge the role of context in assigning merit because context isn’t directly measurable in ways that are favorable to your preferred distribution of seats.

3) There has been no reporting at all to suggest that 450 seats are geographically allocated. You’re going to have to show your work on that. The most aggressive estimates on that have been more in the neighborhood of 300-325, and even that’s been questioned and deemed unlikely. The system is not designed for all allocated spots to be filled, and they never are.

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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

For a change, the new principal has STEM background. Merit is back, beginning with the new principal.

Bonitatibus has a computer science background.

Maybe for a change you can try to post something truthful?

She has a what?

It says she graduated from indiana university of pennsylvania in communications education.

Nothing about computer science, english or math. I'm not saying you need a degree to teach those subjects at the high school level but just saying you have a background in computer science doesn't make it so.

I think she is perfectly well qualified to be a principal of a base school but TJ needs a principal that understands gifted education and why it is not a waste of taxpayer money like so many on DCUM seem to think.

If you can say that he “has a STEM background”, then you can say that about her as well.

Both studied STEM in college; both went directly into teaching; both taught math in the past.

He did more STEM in college but that doesn’t mean she did zero.

Does a college student who takes a required distributional course in "physics for poets" count as studying STEM in college by your definition?

She did enough to be qualified to teach math and has mentioned her background in computer science in college.

Is she the STEMiest person out there? No. But she does have a “STEM background” if we are considering his background to be a “STEM background” (AKA studied and taught STEM topics decades ago).

Looks like you are having a hard time accepting it. But FCPS is letting her go due to poor performance.

They didn’t let her go. She received a promotion.

I have no problem with the transition - Mukai sounds great. I just hate liars.

Moved to a back office role, no one hears about or cares. Just glad TJ is turning the corner with qualified leadership.

Bonitatibus is qualified.

She has lost the confidence of the students, the faculty and the parents. She could no longer be effective in her role. She chose political alignment with the FCPS board over the mission of the school.

#fakenews She was a great principal who did great things for TJ and the county.

She facilitated a push to change admission standards that discriminated against asians.
Asians constituted the overwhelming majority of her students and families.
The asians at at TJ either hate her or hate their own race.

Fake news from RWNJ trolls.

No discrimination.

Many Asian people, including TJ students and alum, support the change.

It's so laughable really. I mean the school is majority Asian. Asian enrollment is at a historic high and the largest beneficiaries of the change were again Asians.

Asians are the only racial group[ thaty saw a decline in admissions.

You mean, Asian students from affluent families.

The Asian students from low-income families saw the biggest increase in representation.

When you data scrape subsets of data to find a subset that supports your argument, you have a weak argument.
We measure racial discrimination along racial lines and you are using a subset of a racial group that has seen an increase.
The racial group that saw the largest increase were white students.
The only group that saw a decrease were asian students.
This was by design.

Since we are talking about the analysis in the court case — the justices called out the low-income students as highest beneficiaries — the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students also saw huge increases in representation.

If we also look at actual enrollment and yield, we see that white students didn’t have the largest increase, even though they make up the plurality. They just aren’t as interested in TJ - lower application and acceptance rates.

Circuit court judges are not called justices.
They were looking for reasons to avoid acknowledging the racial discrimination.

When you analyze racial discrimination, you look at the racial group, you don't pore over the data until you find some subset of that discriminated group that did better than average.

If we are talking about racial discrimination in admissions, we look at admissions data, not matriculation data.

Again, the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students saw huge increases in representation.

Before the change, the admission rate for black students was 25% of the admission rate for Asian students. Then, went up to 75% after the change. Still less than the 80% guideline.

The disparate impact for black students has lessened significantly but still remains after the change.

So by your explanation this admissions change is nothing but racial percentage manipulation.

No, the admissions change was about opening up TJ to all middle schools.

You were the one who posted about the racial manipulation that happened with the admissions change. But when you're called out, you start lying, claiming it's about opening it to middle schools—when it was always open. Then you start blaming the top four middle school students as rich kids. All your posts are repeat this BS.

We have been discussing many different aspects of the admissions change and you are misrepresenting what was said.

Discrimination:
**The current admissions process does not discriminate against Asian students.
**The old admissions process did present disparate impact for black students when you compared the admissions rate for those kids vs. Asian kids (25% is far below the 80% guideline).

Admissions process:
**The feeder schools have significantly more wealthy families than the MSs which had zero representation before the change.
**The old admissions process presented many hurdles that made it more difficult for kids from lower-income families to navigate and successfully compete.
**The number and rate of kids admitted to the pool (and TJ) was generally lower for kids who attended MSs with higher FRE %s.
**For the class of 2024, there was less than 1% of the admitted class who came from lower-income families.
**The current process allocates a handful of seats to all MSs so that there is a higher chance that kids from MSs with high FRE % will be admitted, increasing representation from kids across the county.

Discrimination:
**The current process was a result of a race focused conversation about racial representation at TJ. If there is discriminatory intent behind the change then you don't analyze it the same way.
**Academic ability is not equally distributed between races. The 80% guideline is not relevant here. You should not see the 80% rule invoked in any of the opinions.

Admissions process:
**Academic ability is not evenly distributed geographically
**Removing the $100 application fee was a great idea. Removing the test was not.
**Academic ability is not evenly distributed economically.
**The current process allocates 450 out of 550 seats based on geography.

That is why the current majority of TJ students now (under new admission) is still coming from certain wealthy area, and the farms number is also still very low (at 12%).
I don't have a say if you are still mad because you are expecting 0% farms (aka your ideology that poor smart student does not exist).

I was a poor smart student. I went to a school full of poor smart students.
The entire school was selected based on the results of a single exam.

but what about racial diversity? did the exam also pick the most deserving from each racial group among the applicants?

It was called "merit". A foreign concept to you, apparently. The diversity/DEI initiatives at TJ have not gone well.

The topic of the initial post would seem to disagree. They’re doing more than fine over there even though folks want to pretend they’re not.

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Anonymous wrote:It's only blind if one chooses to close their eyes.

It's race blind, period.

Stop spreading lies.

why do you bring race into every discussion?

The PP lied and said that "skin color" is one of the "factors can get an admission into TJ".

Republicans are lying POSs.

Right

The new standard for TJ admission is “experience factors,”

- which is not at all a proxy for race; nooooo. Nope.

Not likely to produce the same result

So you’re acknowledging that people of different races… have different… experiences… in America…

Bless your heart, you’re *so* close to getting it…

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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

For a change, the new principal has STEM background. Merit is back, beginning with the new principal.

Bonitatibus has a computer science background.

Maybe for a change you can try to post something truthful?

She has a what?

It says she graduated from indiana university of pennsylvania in communications education.

Nothing about computer science, english or math. I'm not saying you need a degree to teach those subjects at the high school level but just saying you have a background in computer science doesn't make it so.

I think she is perfectly well qualified to be a principal of a base school but TJ needs a principal that understands gifted education and why it is not a waste of taxpayer money like so many on DCUM seem to think.

If you can say that he “has a STEM background”, then you can say that about her as well.

Both studied STEM in college; both went directly into teaching; both taught math in the past.

He did more STEM in college but that doesn’t mean she did zero.

Does a college student who takes a required distributional course in "physics for poets" count as studying STEM in college by your definition?

She did enough to be qualified to teach math and has mentioned her background in computer science in college.

Is she the STEMiest person out there? No. But she does have a “STEM background” if we are considering his background to be a “STEM background” (AKA studied and taught STEM topics decades ago).

Looks like you are having a hard time accepting it. But FCPS is letting her go due to poor performance.

They didn’t let her go. She received a promotion.

I have no problem with the transition - Mukai sounds great. I just hate liars.

Moved to a back office role, no one hears about or cares. Just glad TJ is turning the corner with qualified leadership.

Bonitatibus is qualified.

She has lost the confidence of the students, the faculty and the parents. She could no longer be effective in her role. She chose political alignment with the FCPS board over the mission of the school.

#fakenews She was a great principal who did great things for TJ and the county.

She facilitated a push to change admission standards that discriminated against asians.
Asians constituted the overwhelming majority of her students and families.
The asians at at TJ either hate her or hate their own race.

Fake news from RWNJ trolls.

No discrimination.

Many Asian people, including TJ students and alum, support the change.

It's so laughable really. I mean the school is majority Asian. Asian enrollment is at a historic high and the largest beneficiaries of the change were again Asians.

Asians are the only racial group[ thaty saw a decline in admissions.

You mean, Asian students from affluent families.

The Asian students from low-income families saw the biggest increase in representation.

When you data scrape subsets of data to find a subset that supports your argument, you have a weak argument.
We measure racial discrimination along racial lines and you are using a subset of a racial group that has seen an increase.
The racial group that saw the largest increase were white students.
The only group that saw a decrease were asian students.
This was by design.

Since we are talking about the analysis in the court case — the justices called out the low-income students as highest beneficiaries — the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students also saw huge increases in representation.

If we also look at actual enrollment and yield, we see that white students didn’t have the largest increase, even though they make up the plurality. They just aren’t as interested in TJ - lower application and acceptance rates.

Circuit court judges are not called justices.
They were looking for reasons to avoid acknowledging the racial discrimination.

When you analyze racial discrimination, you look at the racial group, you don't pore over the data until you find some subset of that discriminated group that did better than average.

If we are talking about racial discrimination in admissions, we look at admissions data, not matriculation data.

Again, the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students saw huge increases in representation.

Before the change, the admission rate for black students was 25% of the admission rate for Asian students. Then, went up to 75% after the change. Still less than the 80% guideline.

The disparate impact for black students has lessened significantly but still remains after the change.

So by your explanation this admissions change is nothing but racial percentage manipulation.

No, the admissions change was about opening up TJ to all middle schools.

You were the one who posted about the racial manipulation that happened with the admissions change. But when you're called out, you start lying, claiming it's about opening it to middle schools—when it was always open. Then you start blaming the top four middle school students as rich kids. All your posts are repeat this BS.

We have been discussing many different aspects of the admissions change and you are misrepresenting what was said.

Discrimination:
**The current admissions process does not discriminate against Asian students.
**The old admissions process did present disparate impact for black students when you compared the admissions rate for those kids vs. Asian kids (25% is far below the 80% guideline).

Admissions process:
**The feeder schools have significantly more wealthy families than the MSs which had zero representation before the change.
**The old admissions process presented many hurdles that made it more difficult for kids from lower-income families to navigate and successfully compete.
**The number and rate of kids admitted to the pool (and TJ) was generally lower for kids who attended MSs with higher FRE %s.
**For the class of 2024, there was less than 1% of the admitted class who came from lower-income families.
**The current process allocates a handful of seats to all MSs so that there is a higher chance that kids from MSs with high FRE % will be admitted, increasing representation from kids across the county.

Discrimination:
**The current process was a result of a race focused conversation about racial representation at TJ. If there is discriminatory intent behind the change then you don't analyze it the same way.
**Academic ability is not equally distributed between races. The 80% guideline is not relevant here. You should not see the 80% rule invoked in any of the opinions.

Admissions process:
**Academic ability is not evenly distributed geographically
**Removing the $100 application fee was a great idea. Removing the test was not.
**Academic ability is not evenly distributed economically.
**The current process allocates 450 out of 550 seats based on geography.

That is why the current majority of TJ students now (under new admission) is still coming from certain wealthy area, and the farms number is also still very low (at 12%).
I don't have a say if you are still mad because you are expecting 0% farms (aka your ideology that poor smart student does not exist).

I was a poor smart student. I went to a school full of poor smart students.
The entire school was selected based on the results of a single exam.

but what about racial diversity? did the exam also pick the most deserving from each racial group among the applicants?

It was called "merit". A foreign concept to you, apparently. The diversity/DEI initiatives at TJ have not gone well.

The topic of the initial post would seem to disagree. They’re doing more than fine over there even though folks want to pretend they’re not.

Fine? With admissions change, the lowest math Algebra1 admits has gone up from 7 to over 120, requiring remedial math, and SOLs are down.

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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

For a change, the new principal has STEM background. Merit is back, beginning with the new principal.

Bonitatibus has a computer science background.

Maybe for a change you can try to post something truthful?

She has a what?

It says she graduated from indiana university of pennsylvania in communications education.

Nothing about computer science, english or math. I'm not saying you need a degree to teach those subjects at the high school level but just saying you have a background in computer science doesn't make it so.

I think she is perfectly well qualified to be a principal of a base school but TJ needs a principal that understands gifted education and why it is not a waste of taxpayer money like so many on DCUM seem to think.

If you can say that he “has a STEM background”, then you can say that about her as well.

Both studied STEM in college; both went directly into teaching; both taught math in the past.

He did more STEM in college but that doesn’t mean she did zero.

Does a college student who takes a required distributional course in "physics for poets" count as studying STEM in college by your definition?

She did enough to be qualified to teach math and has mentioned her background in computer science in college.

Is she the STEMiest person out there? No. But she does have a “STEM background” if we are considering his background to be a “STEM background” (AKA studied and taught STEM topics decades ago).

Looks like you are having a hard time accepting it. But FCPS is letting her go due to poor performance.

They didn’t let her go. She received a promotion.

I have no problem with the transition - Mukai sounds great. I just hate liars.

Moved to a back office role, no one hears about or cares. Just glad TJ is turning the corner with qualified leadership.

Bonitatibus is qualified.

She has lost the confidence of the students, the faculty and the parents. She could no longer be effective in her role. She chose political alignment with the FCPS board over the mission of the school.

#fakenews She was a great principal who did great things for TJ and the county.

She facilitated a push to change admission standards that discriminated against asians.
Asians constituted the overwhelming majority of her students and families.
The asians at at TJ either hate her or hate their own race.

Fake news from RWNJ trolls.

No discrimination.

Many Asian people, including TJ students and alum, support the change.

It's so laughable really. I mean the school is majority Asian. Asian enrollment is at a historic high and the largest beneficiaries of the change were again Asians.

Asians are the only racial group[ thaty saw a decline in admissions.

You mean, Asian students from affluent families.

The Asian students from low-income families saw the biggest increase in representation.

When you data scrape subsets of data to find a subset that supports your argument, you have a weak argument.
We measure racial discrimination along racial lines and you are using a subset of a racial group that has seen an increase.
The racial group that saw the largest increase were white students.
The only group that saw a decrease were asian students.
This was by design.

Since we are talking about the analysis in the court case — the justices called out the low-income students as highest beneficiaries — the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students also saw huge increases in representation.

If we also look at actual enrollment and yield, we see that white students didn’t have the largest increase, even though they make up the plurality. They just aren’t as interested in TJ - lower application and acceptance rates.

Circuit court judges are not called justices.
They were looking for reasons to avoid acknowledging the racial discrimination.

When you analyze racial discrimination, you look at the racial group, you don't pore over the data until you find some subset of that discriminated group that did better than average.

If we are talking about racial discrimination in admissions, we look at admissions data, not matriculation data.

Again, the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students saw huge increases in representation.

Before the change, the admission rate for black students was 25% of the admission rate for Asian students. Then, went up to 75% after the change. Still less than the 80% guideline.

The disparate impact for black students has lessened significantly but still remains after the change.

So by your explanation this admissions change is nothing but racial percentage manipulation.

No, the admissions change was about opening up TJ to all middle schools.

It's always been open to all middle schools.

in spirit only since kids at the less affluent schools couldn't afford the prep where they get to practice using the actual test questions.

And yet the wealthiest racial group is under-represente-ed at TJ.

This is 100% false. The wealthiest racial demographic in Northern Virginia by some distance is South Asians, and they are *wildly* over-represented at TJ. Have been ever since about 2010.

Academically wealthy, not financially wealthy. TJ needs students with stem skills in top half, who dont shy away from enrolling in advanced courses.

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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

For a change, the new principal has STEM background. Merit is back, beginning with the new principal.

Bonitatibus has a computer science background.

Maybe for a change you can try to post something truthful?

She has a what?

It says she graduated from indiana university of pennsylvania in communications education.

Nothing about computer science, english or math. I'm not saying you need a degree to teach those subjects at the high school level but just saying you have a background in computer science doesn't make it so.

I think she is perfectly well qualified to be a principal of a base school but TJ needs a principal that understands gifted education and why it is not a waste of taxpayer money like so many on DCUM seem to think.

If you can say that he “has a STEM background”, then you can say that about her as well.

Both studied STEM in college; both went directly into teaching; both taught math in the past.

He did more STEM in college but that doesn’t mean she did zero.

Does a college student who takes a required distributional course in "physics for poets" count as studying STEM in college by your definition?

She did enough to be qualified to teach math and has mentioned her background in computer science in college.

Is she the STEMiest person out there? No. But she does have a “STEM background” if we are considering his background to be a “STEM background” (AKA studied and taught STEM topics decades ago).

Looks like you are having a hard time accepting it. But FCPS is letting her go due to poor performance.

They didn’t let her go. She received a promotion.

I have no problem with the transition - Mukai sounds great. I just hate liars.

Moved to a back office role, no one hears about or cares. Just glad TJ is turning the corner with qualified leadership.

Bonitatibus is qualified.

She has lost the confidence of the students, the faculty and the parents. She could no longer be effective in her role. She chose political alignment with the FCPS board over the mission of the school.

#fakenews She was a great principal who did great things for TJ and the county.

She facilitated a push to change admission standards that discriminated against asians.
Asians constituted the overwhelming majority of her students and families.
The asians at at TJ either hate her or hate their own race.

Fake news from RWNJ trolls.

No discrimination.

Many Asian people, including TJ students and alum, support the change.

It's so laughable really. I mean the school is majority Asian. Asian enrollment is at a historic high and the largest beneficiaries of the change were again Asians.

Asians are the only racial group[ thaty saw a decline in admissions.

You mean, Asian students from affluent families.

The Asian students from low-income families saw the biggest increase in representation.

When you data scrape subsets of data to find a subset that supports your argument, you have a weak argument.
We measure racial discrimination along racial lines and you are using a subset of a racial group that has seen an increase.
The racial group that saw the largest increase were white students.
The only group that saw a decrease were asian students.
This was by design.

Since we are talking about the analysis in the court case — the justices called out the low-income students as highest beneficiaries — the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students also saw huge increases in representation.

If we also look at actual enrollment and yield, we see that white students didn’t have the largest increase, even though they make up the plurality. They just aren’t as interested in TJ - lower application and acceptance rates.

Circuit court judges are not called justices.
They were looking for reasons to avoid acknowledging the racial discrimination.

When you analyze racial discrimination, you look at the racial group, you don't pore over the data until you find some subset of that discriminated group that did better than average.

If we are talking about racial discrimination in admissions, we look at admissions data, not matriculation data.

Again, the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students saw huge increases in representation.

Before the change, the admission rate for black students was 25% of the admission rate for Asian students. Then, went up to 75% after the change. Still less than the 80% guideline.

The disparate impact for black students has lessened significantly but still remains after the change.

So by your explanation this admissions change is nothing but racial percentage manipulation.

No, the admissions change was about opening up TJ to all middle schools.

It's always been open to all middle schools.

in spirit only since kids at the less affluent schools couldn't afford the prep where they get to practice using the actual test questions.

And yet the wealthiest racial group is under-represente-ed at TJ.

This is 100% false. The wealthiest racial demographic in Northern Virginia by some distance is South Asians, and they are *wildly* over-represented at TJ. Have been ever since about 2010.

Academically wealthy, not financially wealthy. TJ needs students with stem skills in top half, who dont shy away from enrolling in advanced courses.

Was this meant to be coherent?

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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

For a change, the new principal has STEM background. Merit is back, beginning with the new principal.

Bonitatibus has a computer science background.

Maybe for a change you can try to post something truthful?

She has a what?

It says she graduated from indiana university of pennsylvania in communications education.

Nothing about computer science, english or math. I'm not saying you need a degree to teach those subjects at the high school level but just saying you have a background in computer science doesn't make it so.

I think she is perfectly well qualified to be a principal of a base school but TJ needs a principal that understands gifted education and why it is not a waste of taxpayer money like so many on DCUM seem to think.

If you can say that he “has a STEM background”, then you can say that about her as well.

Both studied STEM in college; both went directly into teaching; both taught math in the past.

He did more STEM in college but that doesn’t mean she did zero.

Does a college student who takes a required distributional course in "physics for poets" count as studying STEM in college by your definition?

She did enough to be qualified to teach math and has mentioned her background in computer science in college.

Is she the STEMiest person out there? No. But she does have a “STEM background” if we are considering his background to be a “STEM background” (AKA studied and taught STEM topics decades ago).

Looks like you are having a hard time accepting it. But FCPS is letting her go due to poor performance.

They didn’t let her go. She received a promotion.

I have no problem with the transition - Mukai sounds great. I just hate liars.

Moved to a back office role, no one hears about or cares. Just glad TJ is turning the corner with qualified leadership.

Bonitatibus is qualified.

She has lost the confidence of the students, the faculty and the parents. She could no longer be effective in her role. She chose political alignment with the FCPS board over the mission of the school.

#fakenews She was a great principal who did great things for TJ and the county.

She facilitated a push to change admission standards that discriminated against asians.
Asians constituted the overwhelming majority of her students and families.
The asians at at TJ either hate her or hate their own race.

Fake news from RWNJ trolls.

No discrimination.

Many Asian people, including TJ students and alum, support the change.

It's so laughable really. I mean the school is majority Asian. Asian enrollment is at a historic high and the largest beneficiaries of the change were again Asians.

Asians are the only racial group[ thaty saw a decline in admissions.

You mean, Asian students from affluent families.

The Asian students from low-income families saw the biggest increase in representation.

When you data scrape subsets of data to find a subset that supports your argument, you have a weak argument.
We measure racial discrimination along racial lines and you are using a subset of a racial group that has seen an increase.
The racial group that saw the largest increase were white students.
The only group that saw a decrease were asian students.
This was by design.

Since we are talking about the analysis in the court case — the justices called out the low-income students as highest beneficiaries — the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students also saw huge increases in representation.

If we also look at actual enrollment and yield, we see that white students didn’t have the largest increase, even though they make up the plurality. They just aren’t as interested in TJ - lower application and acceptance rates.

Circuit court judges are not called justices.
They were looking for reasons to avoid acknowledging the racial discrimination.

When you analyze racial discrimination, you look at the racial group, you don't pore over the data until you find some subset of that discriminated group that did better than average.

If we are talking about racial discrimination in admissions, we look at admissions data, not matriculation data.

Again, the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students saw huge increases in representation.

Before the change, the admission rate for black students was 25% of the admission rate for Asian students. Then, went up to 75% after the change. Still less than the 80% guideline.

The disparate impact for black students has lessened significantly but still remains after the change.

So by your explanation this admissions change is nothing but racial percentage manipulation.

No, the admissions change was about opening up TJ to all middle schools.

You were the one who posted about the racial manipulation that happened with the admissions change. But when you're called out, you start lying, claiming it's about opening it to middle schools—when it was always open. Then you start blaming the top four middle school students as rich kids. All your posts are repeat this BS.

We have been discussing many different aspects of the admissions change and you are misrepresenting what was said.

Discrimination:
**The current admissions process does not discriminate against Asian students.
**The old admissions process did present disparate impact for black students when you compared the admissions rate for those kids vs. Asian kids (25% is far below the 80% guideline).

Admissions process:
**The feeder schools have significantly more wealthy families than the MSs which had zero representation before the change.
**The old admissions process presented many hurdles that made it more difficult for kids from lower-income families to navigate and successfully compete.
**The number and rate of kids admitted to the pool (and TJ) was generally lower for kids who attended MSs with higher FRE %s.
**For the class of 2024, there was less than 1% of the admitted class who came from lower-income families.
**The current process allocates a handful of seats to all MSs so that there is a higher chance that kids from MSs with high FRE % will be admitted, increasing representation from kids across the county.

Discrimination:
**The current process was a result of a race focused conversation about racial representation at TJ. If there is discriminatory intent behind the change then you don't analyze it the same way.
**Academic ability is not equally distributed between races. The 80% guideline is not relevant here. You should not see the 80% rule invoked in any of the opinions.

Admissions process:
**Academic ability is not evenly distributed geographically
**Removing the $100 application fee was a great idea. Removing the test was not.
**Academic ability is not evenly distributed economically.
**The current process allocates 450 out of 550 seats based on geography.

That is why the current majority of TJ students now (under new admission) is still coming from certain wealthy area, and the farms number is also still very low (at 12%).
I don't have a say if you are still mad because you are expecting 0% farms (aka your ideology that poor smart student does not exist).

I was a poor smart student. I went to a school full of poor smart students.
The entire school was selected based on the results of a single exam.

but what about racial diversity? did the exam also pick the most deserving from each racial group among the applicants?

It was called "merit". A foreign concept to you, apparently. The diversity/DEI initiatives at TJ have not gone well.

The topic of the initial post would seem to disagree. They’re doing more than fine over there even though folks want to pretend they’re not.

Fine? With admissions change, the lowest math Algebra1 admits has gone up from 7 to over 120, requiring remedial math, and SOLs are down.

Remedial math is a trope that’s been debunked on this forum dozens of times. There is no remedial math happening at TJ - there has been extra support in some cases which is not exactly unique.

Many of TJ’s most successful students in its history have been Alg 1 admits. Math advancement is not and should not be a prerequisite or golden ticket to TJ.

SOLs are down *slightly*, and largely because test taking ability is no longer a prerequisite to get into TJ. So what?

And why, oh why, do you all insist on debasing yourselves and your cause by continuing to attack children who did not select the admissions process that admitted them?

You lost. It’s over. The new process isn’t going anywhere and you blew your chance to change it when you nominated embarrassing dopes like Harry Jackson in a School Board election cycle that should have been a layup with an unpopular President.

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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

For a change, the new principal has STEM background. Merit is back, beginning with the new principal.

Bonitatibus has a computer science background.

Maybe for a change you can try to post something truthful?

She has a what?

It says she graduated from indiana university of pennsylvania in communications education.

Nothing about computer science, english or math. I'm not saying you need a degree to teach those subjects at the high school level but just saying you have a background in computer science doesn't make it so.

I think she is perfectly well qualified to be a principal of a base school but TJ needs a principal that understands gifted education and why it is not a waste of taxpayer money like so many on DCUM seem to think.

If you can say that he “has a STEM background”, then you can say that about her as well.

Both studied STEM in college; both went directly into teaching; both taught math in the past.

He did more STEM in college but that doesn’t mean she did zero.

Does a college student who takes a required distributional course in "physics for poets" count as studying STEM in college by your definition?

She did enough to be qualified to teach math and has mentioned her background in computer science in college.

Is she the STEMiest person out there? No. But she does have a “STEM background” if we are considering his background to be a “STEM background” (AKA studied and taught STEM topics decades ago).

Looks like you are having a hard time accepting it. But FCPS is letting her go due to poor performance.

They didn’t let her go. She received a promotion.

I have no problem with the transition - Mukai sounds great. I just hate liars.

Moved to a back office role, no one hears about or cares. Just glad TJ is turning the corner with qualified leadership.

Bonitatibus is qualified.

She has lost the confidence of the students, the faculty and the parents. She could no longer be effective in her role. She chose political alignment with the FCPS board over the mission of the school.

#fakenews She was a great principal who did great things for TJ and the county.

She facilitated a push to change admission standards that discriminated against asians.
Asians constituted the overwhelming majority of her students and families.
The asians at at TJ either hate her or hate their own race.

Fake news from RWNJ trolls.

No discrimination.

Many Asian people, including TJ students and alum, support the change.

It's so laughable really. I mean the school is majority Asian. Asian enrollment is at a historic high and the largest beneficiaries of the change were again Asians.

Asians are the only racial group[ thaty saw a decline in admissions.

You mean, Asian students from affluent families.

The Asian students from low-income families saw the biggest increase in representation.

When you data scrape subsets of data to find a subset that supports your argument, you have a weak argument.
We measure racial discrimination along racial lines and you are using a subset of a racial group that has seen an increase.
The racial group that saw the largest increase were white students.
The only group that saw a decrease were asian students.
This was by design.

Since we are talking about the analysis in the court case — the justices called out the low-income students as highest beneficiaries — the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students also saw huge increases in representation.

If we also look at actual enrollment and yield, we see that white students didn’t have the largest increase, even though they make up the plurality. They just aren’t as interested in TJ - lower application and acceptance rates.

Circuit court judges are not called justices.
They were looking for reasons to avoid acknowledging the racial discrimination.

When you analyze racial discrimination, you look at the racial group, you don't pore over the data until you find some subset of that discriminated group that did better than average.

If we are talking about racial discrimination in admissions, we look at admissions data, not matriculation data.

Again, the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students saw huge increases in representation.

Before the change, the admission rate for black students was 25% of the admission rate for Asian students. Then, went up to 75% after the change. Still less than the 80% guideline.

The disparate impact for black students has lessened significantly but still remains after the change.

So by your explanation this admissions change is nothing but racial percentage manipulation.

No, the admissions change was about opening up TJ to all middle schools.

It's always been open to all middle schools.

in spirit only since kids at the less affluent schools couldn't afford the prep where they get to practice using the actual test questions.

And yet the wealthiest racial group is under-represente-ed at TJ.

This is 100% false. The wealthiest racial demographic in Northern Virginia by some distance is South Asians, and they are *wildly* over-represented at TJ. Have been ever since about 2010.

Wealth is HIGHLY correlated with intelligence. Intelligent parents tend to have intelligent children. If you look up the countries with the highest average IQ, the top countries are all in South Asia.

I am not Asian and I don’t resent Asians and their high achievement. Instead I look to this highly intelligent population in Fairfax County and their focus and hard work and try to instill these values in my children. The students in FCPS would achieve better results if more parents did this.

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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

For a change, the new principal has STEM background. Merit is back, beginning with the new principal.

Bonitatibus has a computer science background.

Maybe for a change you can try to post something truthful?

She has a what?

It says she graduated from indiana university of pennsylvania in communications education.

Nothing about computer science, english or math. I'm not saying you need a degree to teach those subjects at the high school level but just saying you have a background in computer science doesn't make it so.

I think she is perfectly well qualified to be a principal of a base school but TJ needs a principal that understands gifted education and why it is not a waste of taxpayer money like so many on DCUM seem to think.

If you can say that he “has a STEM background”, then you can say that about her as well.

Both studied STEM in college; both went directly into teaching; both taught math in the past.

He did more STEM in college but that doesn’t mean she did zero.

Does a college student who takes a required distributional course in "physics for poets" count as studying STEM in college by your definition?

She did enough to be qualified to teach math and has mentioned her background in computer science in college.

Is she the STEMiest person out there? No. But she does have a “STEM background” if we are considering his background to be a “STEM background” (AKA studied and taught STEM topics decades ago).

Looks like you are having a hard time accepting it. But FCPS is letting her go due to poor performance.

They didn’t let her go. She received a promotion.

I have no problem with the transition - Mukai sounds great. I just hate liars.

Moved to a back office role, no one hears about or cares. Just glad TJ is turning the corner with qualified leadership.

Bonitatibus is qualified.

She has lost the confidence of the students, the faculty and the parents. She could no longer be effective in her role. She chose political alignment with the FCPS board over the mission of the school.

#fakenews She was a great principal who did great things for TJ and the county.

She facilitated a push to change admission standards that discriminated against asians.
Asians constituted the overwhelming majority of her students and families.
The asians at at TJ either hate her or hate their own race.

Fake news from RWNJ trolls.

No discrimination.

Many Asian people, including TJ students and alum, support the change.

It's so laughable really. I mean the school is majority Asian. Asian enrollment is at a historic high and the largest beneficiaries of the change were again Asians.

Asians are the only racial group[ thaty saw a decline in admissions.

You mean, Asian students from affluent families.

The Asian students from low-income families saw the biggest increase in representation.

When you data scrape subsets of data to find a subset that supports your argument, you have a weak argument.
We measure racial discrimination along racial lines and you are using a subset of a racial group that has seen an increase.
The racial group that saw the largest increase were white students.
The only group that saw a decrease were asian students.
This was by design.

Since we are talking about the analysis in the court case — the justices called out the low-income students as highest beneficiaries — the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students also saw huge increases in representation.

If we also look at actual enrollment and yield, we see that white students didn’t have the largest increase, even though they make up the plurality. They just aren’t as interested in TJ - lower application and acceptance rates.

Circuit court judges are not called justices.
They were looking for reasons to avoid acknowledging the racial discrimination.

When you analyze racial discrimination, you look at the racial group, you don't pore over the data until you find some subset of that discriminated group that did better than average.

If we are talking about racial discrimination in admissions, we look at admissions data, not matriculation data.

Again, the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students saw huge increases in representation.

Before the change, the admission rate for black students was 25% of the admission rate for Asian students. Then, went up to 75% after the change. Still less than the 80% guideline.

The disparate impact for black students has lessened significantly but still remains after the change.

So by your explanation this admissions change is nothing but racial percentage manipulation.

No, the admissions change was about opening up TJ to all middle schools.

It's always been open to all middle schools.

in spirit only since kids at the less affluent schools couldn't afford the prep where they get to practice using the actual test questions.

And yet the wealthiest racial group is under-represente-ed at TJ.

This is 100% false. The wealthiest racial demographic in Northern Virginia by some distance is South Asians, and they are *wildly* over-represented at TJ. Have been ever since about 2010.

Wealth is HIGHLY correlated with intelligence. Intelligent parents tend to have intelligent children. If you look up the countries with the highest average IQ, the top countries are all in South Asia.

I am not Asian and I don’t resent Asians and their high achievement. Instead I look to this highly intelligent population in Fairfax County and their focus and hard work and try to instill these values in my children. The students in FCPS would achieve better results if more parents did this.

FCPS proudly showcases the dedication of Asian American students to advanced STEM in its student achievements news releases, hoping to inspire others to follow their lead. Despite political pressures that have lowered education standards in pursuit of uniform outcomes, Asian American students continue to reject mediocrity, enrolling in the most rigorous AP and post-AP courses in math, science, English, and technology. While FCPS cannot mandate academic rigor, it appreciates students who take on challenging coursework and put in the effort to excel. Whether at TJ or one of FCPS’s top high schools, the commitment of Asian American students to advanced studies helps sustain FCPS’s academic reputation, keeping Fairfax County attractive to families and businesses.

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Anonymous wrote:I am hopeful that the new principal can keep the low stress environment without abandoning rigor.

For a change, the new principal has STEM background. Merit is back, beginning with the new principal.

Bonitatibus has a computer science background.

Maybe for a change you can try to post something truthful?

She has a what?

It says she graduated from indiana university of pennsylvania in communications education.

Nothing about computer science, english or math. I'm not saying you need a degree to teach those subjects at the high school level but just saying you have a background in computer science doesn't make it so.

I think she is perfectly well qualified to be a principal of a base school but TJ needs a principal that understands gifted education and why it is not a waste of taxpayer money like so many on DCUM seem to think.

If you can say that he “has a STEM background”, then you can say that about her as well.

Both studied STEM in college; both went directly into teaching; both taught math in the past.

He did more STEM in college but that doesn’t mean she did zero.

Does a college student who takes a required distributional course in "physics for poets" count as studying STEM in college by your definition?

She did enough to be qualified to teach math and has mentioned her background in computer science in college.

Is she the STEMiest person out there? No. But she does have a “STEM background” if we are considering his background to be a “STEM background” (AKA studied and taught STEM topics decades ago).

Looks like you are having a hard time accepting it. But FCPS is letting her go due to poor performance.

They didn’t let her go. She received a promotion.

I have no problem with the transition - Mukai sounds great. I just hate liars.

Moved to a back office role, no one hears about or cares. Just glad TJ is turning the corner with qualified leadership.

Bonitatibus is qualified.

She has lost the confidence of the students, the faculty and the parents. She could no longer be effective in her role. She chose political alignment with the FCPS board over the mission of the school.

#fakenews She was a great principal who did great things for TJ and the county.

She facilitated a push to change admission standards that discriminated against asians.
Asians constituted the overwhelming majority of her students and families.
The asians at at TJ either hate her or hate their own race.

Fake news from RWNJ trolls.

No discrimination.

Many Asian people, including TJ students and alum, support the change.

It's so laughable really. I mean the school is majority Asian. Asian enrollment is at a historic high and the largest beneficiaries of the change were again Asians.

Asians are the only racial group[ thaty saw a decline in admissions.

You mean, Asian students from affluent families.

The Asian students from low-income families saw the biggest increase in representation.

When you data scrape subsets of data to find a subset that supports your argument, you have a weak argument.
We measure racial discrimination along racial lines and you are using a subset of a racial group that has seen an increase.
The racial group that saw the largest increase were white students.
The only group that saw a decrease were asian students.
This was by design.

Since we are talking about the analysis in the court case — the justices called out the low-income students as highest beneficiaries — the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students also saw huge increases in representation.

If we also look at actual enrollment and yield, we see that white students didn’t have the largest increase, even though they make up the plurality. They just aren’t as interested in TJ - lower application and acceptance rates.

Circuit court judges are not called justices.
They were looking for reasons to avoid acknowledging the racial discrimination.

When you analyze racial discrimination, you look at the racial group, you don't pore over the data until you find some subset of that discriminated group that did better than average.

If we are talking about racial discrimination in admissions, we look at admissions data, not matriculation data.

Again, the group in the class of 2025 that saw the largest absolute increase was Hispanic students. If we look at percentages, Hispanic and black students saw huge increases in representation.

Before the change, the admission rate for black students was 25% of the admission rate for Asian students. Then, went up to 75% after the change. Still less than the 80% guideline.

The disparate impact for black students has lessened significantly but still remains after the change.

So by your explanation this admissions change is nothing but racial percentage manipulation.

No, the admissions change was about opening up TJ to all middle schools.

It's always been open to all middle schools.

in spirit only since kids at the less affluent schools couldn't afford the prep where they get to practice using the actual test questions.

And yet the wealthiest racial group is under-represente-ed at TJ.

This is 100% false. The wealthiest racial demographic in Northern Virginia by some distance is South Asians, and they are *wildly* over-represented at TJ. Have been ever since about 2010.

Wealth is HIGHLY correlated with intelligence. Intelligent parents tend to have intelligent children. If you look up the countries with the highest average IQ, the top countries are all in South Asia.

I am not Asian and I don’t resent Asians and their high achievement. Instead I look to this highly intelligent population in Fairfax County and their focus and hard work and try to instill these values in my children. The students in FCPS would achieve better results if more parents did this.

FCPS proudly showcases the dedication of Asian American students to advanced STEM in its student achievements news releases, hoping to inspire others to follow their lead. Despite political pressures that have lowered education standards in pursuit of uniform outcomes, Asian American students continue to reject mediocrity, enrolling in the most rigorous AP and post-AP courses in math, science, English, and technology. While FCPS cannot mandate academic rigor, it appreciates students who take on challenging coursework and put in the effort to excel. Whether at TJ or one of FCPS’s top high schools, the commitment of Asian American students to advanced studies helps sustain FCPS’s academic reputation, keeping Fairfax County attractive to families and businesses.

It's culture. They aren't born better. They become better.

[Anonymous]

A shout out for the new TJ principal. He went out of the way to help a group of kids who are participating in an event that had been cancelled due to weather. Principal put a lot of effort, got approval from higher up the chain and went through a lot of trouble to make sure these kids got a chance to compete. One of the kids hopes to qualify for a national spot. My child was full of praise for the new principal even though my child was not part of the event.

[Anonymous]

Two years back we had not too dissimilar request and were told simply that they cannot make an exception and it would have been such a simple thing for them to do. You can see the difference between people who actually care and people who pretend to care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A shout out for the new TJ principal. He went out of the way to help a group of kids who are participating in an event that had been cancelled due to weather. Principal put a lot of effort, got approval from higher up the chain and went through a lot of trouble to make sure these kids got a chance to compete. One of the kids hopes to qualify for a national spot. My child was full of praise for the new principal even though my child was not part of the event.

What event?