It is so hard this year, McLean HS boy 4.6 GPA got rejected from UVA

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Anonymous wrote:Yield protection. They make the crappy decision he likely would not attend...which given that out of state and private schools can be from $60-80K for donut hole families is really crappy.

More likely there was some other reason. Shit essays, most likely.

What are the chances a kid with great stats and achievements writes an essay SO terrible it negates the more important factors??? None.

DP. Plenty. I know my high stats kid's essay held her back in early apps. She revised for RD and got into several reaches.

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Anonymous wrote:Yield protection. They make the crappy decision he likely would not attend...which given that out of state and private schools can be from $60-80K for donut hole families is really crappy.

More likely there was some other reason. Shit essays, most likely.

What are the chances a kid with great stats and achievements writes an essay SO terrible it negates the more important factors??? None.

Uh a kid with great stats might have horrible social skills & a complete lack of self-awareness. That could be obvious in an essay.

Or a lack of empathy, or simple lack of passion. Schools don't just want high-performing kids but kids who perform well because they care deeply about their interests.

This is the dumbest BS I've ever heard! So why the F should a college care why a kid performs as long as he does?! The 4.6 kid shows that he can perform through his grades (and there aren't enough fufu APs so he must have taken some tough ones). What in the application led the idiot AO to think this kid doesn't have 'passion'? passion for what? Or that the kid lacks empathy?

The kid is likely Asian or White and this is a clear case of yield protection (I know, they don't do yield protection You idiots can believe that).

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Anonymous wrote:This is the dumbest BS I've ever heard!

Yes it is. It's also not true.

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Anonymous wrote:In State, similar stats to OP.
Accepted into UVA, UMD, Vtech and W&M. I think it came down to ECs, essays and recommendations except for SAT and GPA ( they are not big difference).
60 word essay can differentiate you from the others.

Same but 5 years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:Yield protection. They make the crappy decision he likely would not attend...which given that out of state and private schools can be from $60-80K for donut hole families is really crappy.

More likely there was some other reason. Shit essays, most likely.

What are the chances a kid with great stats and achievements writes an essay SO terrible it negates the more important factors??? None.

Uh a kid with great stats might have horrible social skills & a complete lack of self-awareness. That could be obvious in an essay.

Or a lack of empathy, or simple lack of passion. Schools don't just want high-performing kids but kids who perform well because they care deeply about their interests.

This is the dumbest BS I've ever heard! So why the F should a college care why a kid performs as long as he does?! The 4.6 kid shows that he can perform through his grades (and there aren't enough fufu APs so he must have taken some tough ones). What in the application led the idiot AO to think this kid doesn't have 'passion'? passion for what? Or that the kid lacks empathy?

The kid is likely Asian or White and this is a clear case of yield protection (I know, they don't do yield protection You idiots can believe that).

The kid probably didn’t apply ED and that’s why he was rejected. I do him either, who wants to be pigeonholed to a school when there are better options. Just another excellent student screwed over by the ugly usage of ED.

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*I don’t blame him either. Who wants…..

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Anonymous wrote:Yield protection. They make the crappy decision he likely would not attend...which given that out of state and private schools can be from $60-80K for donut hole families is really crappy.

More likely there was some other reason. Shit essays, most likely.

What are the chances a kid with great stats and achievements writes an essay SO terrible it negates the more important factors??? None.

Uh a kid with great stats might have horrible social skills & a complete lack of self-awareness. That could be obvious in an essay.

Or a lack of empathy, or simple lack of passion. Schools don't just want high-performing kids but kids who perform well because they care deeply about their interests.

This is the dumbest BS I've ever heard! So why the F should a college care why a kid performs as long as he does?! The 4.6 kid shows that he can perform through his grades (and there aren't enough fufu APs so he must have taken some tough ones). What in the application led the idiot AO to think this kid doesn't have 'passion'? passion for what? Or that the kid lacks empathy?

The kid is likely Asian or White and this is a clear case of yield protection (I know, they don't do yield protection You idiots can believe that).

The kid probably didn’t apply ED and that’s why he was rejected. I do him either, who wants to be pigeonholed to a school when there are better options. Just another excellent student screwed over by the ugly usage of ED.

Agree with your sentiment. The fact that he didn't get in EA or RA reeks of yield protection but the idiots on this board don't want to admit VA schools do YP, because "they don't say they do it".

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Anonymous wrote:Yield protection. They make the crappy decision he likely would not attend...which given that out of state and private schools can be from $60-80K for donut hole families is really crappy.

More likely there was some other reason. Shit essays, most likely.

What are the chances a kid with great stats and achievements writes an essay SO terrible it negates the more important factors??? None.

Uh a kid with great stats might have horrible social skills & a complete lack of self-awareness. That could be obvious in an essay.

Or, the OA is simply racist against Asian / Indian applicants.

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Anonymous wrote:Yield protection. They make the crappy decision he likely would not attend...which given that out of state and private schools can be from $60-80K for donut hole families is really crappy.

More likely there was some other reason. Shit essays, most likely.

What are the chances a kid with great stats and achievements writes an essay SO terrible it negates the more important factors??? None.

Uh a kid with great stats might have horrible social skills & a complete lack of self-awareness. That could be obvious in an essay.

Or a lack of empathy, or simple lack of passion. Schools don't just want high-performing kids but kids who perform well because they care deeply about their interests.

These are true, no doubt. But it doesn't explain the trend this year where SO MANY high stats kids landed lower than would have been expected based on (recent!) history from their own high schools.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s amazing to me that a parent and readers see 4.6 and yet nobody is asking “ in what?”

The classes matter people. You can’t just say I had a 4.6 and whine about it and don’t know mention the classes on the transcript over 4 years.

My kids go to McLean HS and you CANNOT reach a 4.6 without taking as many AP classes as you can fit into your schedule. That means most of your core classes have to be APs. Sure there is some leeway so that you can take AP Envir Sci instead of AP Chem but you cannot skip out on many of the hard APs in your core classes and reach a gpa as high as 4.6. With a gpa of 4.6, you have to assume the rigor is there.

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Anonymous wrote:Yield protection. They make the crappy decision he likely would not attend...which given that out of state and private schools can be from $60-80K for donut hole families is really crappy.

More likely there was some other reason. Shit essays, most likely.

What are the chances a kid with great stats and achievements writes an essay SO terrible it negates the more important factors??? None.

Uh a kid with great stats might have horrible social skills & a complete lack of self-awareness. That could be obvious in an essay.

Or a lack of empathy, or simple lack of passion. Schools don't just want high-performing kids but kids who perform well because they care deeply about their interests.

This is the dumbest BS I've ever heard! So why the F should a college care why a kid performs as long as he does?! The 4.6 kid shows that he can perform through his grades (and there aren't enough fufu APs so he must have taken some tough ones). What in the application led the idiot AO to think this kid doesn't have 'passion'? passion for what? Or that the kid lacks empathy?

The kid is likely Asian or White and this is a clear case of yield protection (I know, they don't do yield protection You idiots can believe that).

Plenty of schools DO care about what sort of human being you are....

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Anonymous wrote:Yield protection. They make the crappy decision he likely would not attend...which given that out of state and private schools can be from $60-80K for donut hole families is really crappy.

More likely there was some other reason. Shit essays, most likely.

What are the chances a kid with great stats and achievements writes an essay SO terrible it negates the more important factors??? None.

Uh a kid with great stats might have horrible social skills & a complete lack of self-awareness. That could be obvious in an essay.

Or a lack of empathy, or simple lack of passion. Schools don't just want high-performing kids but kids who perform well because they care deeply about their interests.

This is the dumbest BS I've ever heard! So why the F should a college care why a kid performs as long as he does?! The 4.6 kid shows that he can perform through his grades (and there aren't enough fufu APs so he must have taken some tough ones). What in the application led the idiot AO to think this kid doesn't have 'passion'? passion for what? Or that the kid lacks empathy?

The kid is likely Asian or White and this is a clear case of yield protection (I know, they don't do yield protection You idiots can believe that).

Plenty of schools DO care about what sort of human being you are....

A few hundred words in an essay that you can simply make up a story doesn't measure the kind of person you are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yield protection. They make the crappy decision he likely would not attend...which given that out of state and private schools can be from $60-80K for donut hole families is really crappy.

More likely there was some other reason. Shit essays, most likely.

What are the chances a kid with great stats and achievements writes an essay SO terrible it negates the more important factors??? None.

Uh a kid with great stats might have horrible social skills & a complete lack of self-awareness. That could be obvious in an essay.

Or a lack of empathy, or simple lack of passion. Schools don't just want high-performing kids but kids who perform well because they care deeply about their interests.

This is the dumbest BS I've ever heard! So why the F should a college care why a kid performs as long as he does?! The 4.6 kid shows that he can perform through his grades (and there aren't enough fufu APs so he must have taken some tough ones). What in the application led the idiot AO to think this kid doesn't have 'passion'? passion for what? Or that the kid lacks empathy?

The kid is likely Asian or White and this is a clear case of yield protection (I know, they don't do yield protection You idiots can believe that).

The kid probably didn’t apply ED and that’s why he was rejected. I do him either, who wants to be pigeonholed to a school when there are better options. Just another excellent student screwed over by the ugly usage of ED.

The high stats kids we know who had no hooks were ALL deferred or rejected in ED and in EA. And I'm not talking SCEA REA type places. Some were later accepted in RD but not all. The days where full pay ED was a benefit seem to be gone unless you are legacy (and need to add +VIP if HYPSM) or institutional priority.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yield protection. They make the crappy decision he likely would not attend...which given that out of state and private schools can be from $60-80K for donut hole families is really crappy.

More likely there was some other reason. Shit essays, most likely.

What are the chances a kid with great stats and achievements writes an essay SO terrible it negates the more important factors??? None.

Uh a kid with great stats might have horrible social skills & a complete lack of self-awareness. That could be obvious in an essay.

Or a lack of empathy, or simple lack of passion. Schools don't just want high-performing kids but kids who perform well because they care deeply about their interests.

These are true, no doubt. But it doesn't explain the trend this year where SO MANY high stats kids landed lower than would have been expected based on (recent!) history from their own high schools.

Colleges don’t only want kids from wealthy suburban high schools anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:Yield protection. They make the crappy decision he likely would not attend...which given that out of state and private schools can be from $60-80K for donut hole families is really crappy.

More likely there was some other reason. Shit essays, most likely.

What are the chances a kid with great stats and achievements writes an essay SO terrible it negates the more important factors??? None.

Uh a kid with great stats might have horrible social skills & a complete lack of self-awareness. That could be obvious in an essay.

Or a lack of empathy, or simple lack of passion. Schools don't just want high-performing kids but kids who perform well because they care deeply about their interests.

This is the dumbest BS I've ever heard! So why the F should a college care why a kid performs as long as he does?! The 4.6 kid shows that he can perform through his grades (and there aren't enough fufu APs so he must have taken some tough ones). What in the application led the idiot AO to think this kid doesn't have 'passion'? passion for what? Or that the kid lacks empathy?

The kid is likely Asian or White and this is a clear case of yield protection (I know, they don't do yield protection You idiots can believe that).

Plenty of schools DO care about what sort of human being you are....

A few hundred words in an essay that you can simply make up a story doesn't measure the kind of person you are.

If you eff-up in that essay and come across as an *ss - it does! (whether that be full fledged *ass or a tone that leaves one to wonder and then think...why did they choose this as what to tell us)