Tipping for expensive salon visits

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The anger about paying a talented worker for their services from a bunch of people who bill or who have spouse's who bill $300+ an hour is impressive.

Except those billing $300 plus per hr went to 10 yrs of medical training or 4 yrs of law school plus internships at the cost of several hundred thousand dollars in education to be able to bill as such. That is not a comparable skill and investment to cosmetology school and cutting/coloring hair. There time is certainly worth money and salons do charge a lot for services, but sorry, I'm not "tipping" an extra $60 for 2 hrs of work which I already am paying for.

You are just cheap. I'm a lawyer and I don't feel like I deserve to tell other professions what they should or should not charge, not begrudge them a customary tip because they didn't go to extensive, expensive schooling. They aren't better than me.

Except you are already paying what they are charging. They can "charge" whatever they want and if you feel it is worth it, then you say for that service. Tipping is not the same as charging. Tipping is extra. Because someone is a lawyer or a Dr or a CEO and bill $500 per hr, they should be expected to overpay in the form of exaggerating tipping for everything because they "have the money?" Sorry, but no. Overpaying is stupid whether you make $10 or $1000.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No. You are already paying for their skill, time, and product. I would not tip an extra $60 plus for 2 hrs of service. I would leave a $20-30 tip. Servers are making $3/hr, food service in a restaurant is not comparable

Wrong! They could have had 4 customers in those 2 hours and would have made way more than $20-$30 in tips! I would not keep you as a client if you used my time and tipped that way.

And you work two customers at a time. If the salon takes 50%, you are still making nearly $600 in the OP example. If it takes you three hours, you’re making $200 an hour.

I thought in addition to salons taking half (or more), the stylist also has to pay to rent the chair?

Why is everyone begrudging stylists a good income? They are on their feet all day, basically independent contractors, have to deal with ups and downs in demand (not a steady income month to month) and it must be tough job dealing with people every day (esp people like the ones who post on this board). Sheesh.

Nope. One or the other.

Look I think stylists should get tips but I don't think it should be a percentage if they are their own boss. Its more like a per hour/ per service thing IMO

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The anger about paying a talented worker for their services from a bunch of people who bill or who have spouse's who bill $300+ an hour is impressive.

Except those billing $300 plus per hr went to 10 yrs of medical training or 4 yrs of law school plus internships at the cost of several hundred thousand dollars in education to be able to bill as such. That is not a comparable skill and investment to cosmetology school and cutting/coloring hair. There time is certainly worth money and salons do charge a lot for services, but sorry, I'm not "tipping" an extra $60 for 2 hrs of work which I already am paying for.

You are just cheap. I'm a lawyer and I don't feel like I deserve to tell other professions what they should or should not charge, not begrudge them a customary tip because they didn't go to extensive, expensive schooling. They aren't better than me.

** SORRY meant to say I am not better than them.

This. Seriously. People are also assuming that they are busy 40+ hours a week. They may have double booked clients in weekends but except during the holiday season, they seem pretty open on weekdays. If you value someone repeatedly doing a nice hair style, you should tip them according to custom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The anger about paying a talented worker for their services from a bunch of people who bill or who have spouse's who bill $300+ an hour is impressive.

Except those billing $300 plus per hr went to 10 yrs of medical training or 4 yrs of law school plus internships at the cost of several hundred thousand dollars in education to be able to bill as such. That is not a comparable skill and investment to cosmetology school and cutting/coloring hair. There time is certainly worth money and salons do charge a lot for services, but sorry, I'm not "tipping" an extra $60 for 2 hrs of work which I already am paying for.

You are just cheap. I'm a lawyer and I don't feel like I deserve to tell other professions what they should or should not charge, not begrudge them a customary tip because they didn't go to extensive, expensive schooling. They aren't better than me.

** SORRY meant to say I am not better than them.

This. Seriously. People are also assuming that they are busy 40+ hours a week. They may have double booked clients in weekends but except during the holiday season, they seem pretty open on weekdays. If you value someone repeatedly doing a nice hair style, you should tip them according to custom.

Who makes this custom? If you value their service, you show them by paying what they charge and coming back as a customer. Tipping has gotten so out of hand, sorry.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The anger about paying a talented worker for their services from a bunch of people who bill or who have spouse's who bill $300+ an hour is impressive.

Except those billing $300 plus per hr went to 10 yrs of medical training or 4 yrs of law school plus internships at the cost of several hundred thousand dollars in education to be able to bill as such. That is not a comparable skill and investment to cosmetology school and cutting/coloring hair. There time is certainly worth money and salons do charge a lot for services, but sorry, I'm not "tipping" an extra $60 for 2 hrs of work which I already am paying for.

You are just cheap. I'm a lawyer and I don't feel like I deserve to tell other professions what they should or should not charge, not begrudge them a customary tip because they didn't go to extensive, expensive schooling. They aren't better than me.

** SORRY meant to say I am not better than them.

This. Seriously. People are also assuming that they are busy 40+ hours a week. They may have double booked clients in weekends but except during the holiday season, they seem pretty open on weekdays. If you value someone repeatedly doing a nice hair style, you should tip them according to custom.

Where have you been? I've been paying for my own haircuts for almost 25 years. In all different locations around the country. During that time the standard was always 20%.
There are plenty of articles on customary tipping amounts. Some from decades ago.

And I see hairstyling as different than a service from a doctor or lawyer. There is a lot of artistry that goes into it.

Who makes this custom? If you value their service, you show them by paying what they charge and coming back as a customer. Tipping has gotten so out of hand, sorry.

Where have you been? I've been paying for my own haircuts for almost 25 years. In all different locations around the country. During that time the standard was always 20%.
There are plenty of articles on customary tipping amounts. Some from decades ago.

And I see hairstyling as different than a service from a doctor or lawyer. There is a lot of artistry that goes into it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The anger about paying a talented worker for their services from a bunch of people who bill or who have spouse's who bill $300+ an hour is impressive.

Except those billing $300 plus per hr went to 10 yrs of medical training or 4 yrs of law school plus internships at the cost of several hundred thousand dollars in education to be able to bill as such. That is not a comparable skill and investment to cosmetology school and cutting/coloring hair. There time is certainly worth money and salons do charge a lot for services, but sorry, I'm not "tipping" an extra $60 for 2 hrs of work which I already am paying for.

You are just cheap. I'm a lawyer and I don't feel like I deserve to tell other professions what they should or should not charge, not begrudge them a customary tip because they didn't go to extensive, expensive schooling. They aren't better than me.

** SORRY meant to say I am not better than them.

This. Seriously. People are also assuming that they are busy 40+ hours a week. They may have double booked clients in weekends but except during the holiday season, they seem pretty open on weekdays. If you value someone repeatedly doing a nice hair style, you should tip them according to custom.

Where have you been? I've been paying for my own haircuts for almost 25 years. In all different locations around the country. During that time the standard was always 20%.
There are plenty of articles on customary tipping amounts. Some from decades ago.

And I see hairstyling as different than a service from a doctor or lawyer. There is a lot of artistry that goes into it.

Who makes this custom? If you value their service, you show them by paying what they charge and coming back as a customer. Tipping has gotten so out of hand, sorry.

Where have you been? I've been paying for my own haircuts for almost 25 years. In all different locations around the country. During that time the standard was always 20%.
There are plenty of articles on customary tipping amounts. Some from decades ago.

And I see hairstyling as different than a service from a doctor or lawyer. There is a lot of artistry that goes into it.

Do you tip your lawyer 20% for services? Skills vary a lot from lawyer to lawyer and some are much better than others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The anger about paying a talented worker for their services from a bunch of people who bill or who have spouse's who bill $300+ an hour is impressive.

Except those billing $300 plus per hr went to 10 yrs of medical training or 4 yrs of law school plus internships at the cost of several hundred thousand dollars in education to be able to bill as such. That is not a comparable skill and investment to cosmetology school and cutting/coloring hair. There time is certainly worth money and salons do charge a lot for services, but sorry, I'm not "tipping" an extra $60 for 2 hrs of work which I already am paying for.

You are just cheap. I'm a lawyer and I don't feel like I deserve to tell other professions what they should or should not charge, not begrudge them a customary tip because they didn't go to extensive, expensive schooling. They aren't better than me.

** SORRY meant to say I am not better than them.

This. Seriously. People are also assuming that they are busy 40+ hours a week. They may have double booked clients in weekends but except during the holiday season, they seem pretty open on weekdays. If you value someone repeatedly doing a nice hair style, you should tip them according to custom.

Not the customers job to provide a full time income for a part time job. They should set their rates accordingly and stop expecting $80 tips under the table. I go to an expensive salon and I tip but I don’t like it so I don’t go as often as I’d like to. Paying $30 to NOT leave with a wet head after spending $300 on cut and color feels especially great. And for this, I get called “cheap” . Fun!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The anger about paying a talented worker for their services from a bunch of people who bill or who have spouse's who bill $300+ an hour is impressive.

Except those billing $300 plus per hr went to 10 yrs of medical training or 4 yrs of law school plus internships at the cost of several hundred thousand dollars in education to be able to bill as such. That is not a comparable skill and investment to cosmetology school and cutting/coloring hair. There time is certainly worth money and salons do charge a lot for services, but sorry, I'm not "tipping" an extra $60 for 2 hrs of work which I already am paying for.

You are just cheap. I'm a lawyer and I don't feel like I deserve to tell other professions what they should or should not charge, not begrudge them a customary tip because they didn't go to extensive, expensive schooling. They aren't better than me.

** SORRY meant to say I am not better than them.

This. Seriously. People are also assuming that they are busy 40+ hours a week. They may have double booked clients in weekends but except during the holiday season, they seem pretty open on weekdays. If you value someone repeatedly doing a nice hair style, you should tip them according to custom.

Where have you been? I've been paying for my own haircuts for almost 25 years. In all different locations around the country. During that time the standard was always 20%.
There are plenty of articles on customary tipping amounts. Some from decades ago.

And I see hairstyling as different than a service from a doctor or lawyer. There is a lot of artistry that goes into it.

Who makes this custom? If you value their service, you show them by paying what they charge and coming back as a customer. Tipping has gotten so out of hand, sorry.

Where have you been? I've been paying for my own haircuts for almost 25 years. In all different locations around the country. During that time the standard was always 20%.
There are plenty of articles on customary tipping amounts. Some from decades ago.

And I see hairstyling as different than a service from a doctor or lawyer. There is a lot of artistry that goes into it.

There isn't a standard. A tip is what you feel you want to give extra for a job well done. Expecting 20% no matter what is bananas

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The anger about paying a talented worker for their services from a bunch of people who bill or who have spouse's who bill $300+ an hour is impressive.

Except those billing $300 plus per hr went to 10 yrs of medical training or 4 yrs of law school plus internships at the cost of several hundred thousand dollars in education to be able to bill as such. That is not a comparable skill and investment to cosmetology school and cutting/coloring hair. There time is certainly worth money and salons do charge a lot for services, but sorry, I'm not "tipping" an extra $60 for 2 hrs of work which I already am paying for.

You are just cheap. I'm a lawyer and I don't feel like I deserve to tell other professions what they should or should not charge, not begrudge them a customary tip because they didn't go to extensive, expensive schooling. They aren't better than me.

** SORRY meant to say I am not better than them.

This. Seriously. People are also assuming that they are busy 40+ hours a week. They may have double booked clients in weekends but except during the holiday season, they seem pretty open on weekdays. If you value someone repeatedly doing a nice hair style, you should tip them according to custom.

Where have you been? I've been paying for my own haircuts for almost 25 years. In all different locations around the country. During that time the standard was always 20%.
There are plenty of articles on customary tipping amounts. Some from decades ago.

And I see hairstyling as different than a service from a doctor or lawyer. There is a lot of artistry that goes into it.

Who makes this custom? If you value their service, you show them by paying what they charge and coming back as a customer. Tipping has gotten so out of hand, sorry.

Where have you been? I've been paying for my own haircuts for almost 25 years. In all different locations around the country. During that time the standard was always 20%.
There are plenty of articles on customary tipping amounts. Some from decades ago.

And I see hairstyling as different than a service from a doctor or lawyer. There is a lot of artistry that goes into it.

Do you tip your lawyer 20% for services? Skills vary a lot from lawyer to lawyer and some are much better than others.

+1
And be sure to tip your therapists, DCUM. Their skills vary wildly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The anger about paying a talented worker for their services from a bunch of people who bill or who have spouse's who bill $300+ an hour is impressive.

Except those billing $300 plus per hr went to 10 yrs of medical training or 4 yrs of law school plus internships at the cost of several hundred thousand dollars in education to be able to bill as such. That is not a comparable skill and investment to cosmetology school and cutting/coloring hair. There time is certainly worth money and salons do charge a lot for services, but sorry, I'm not "tipping" an extra $60 for 2 hrs of work which I already am paying for.

You are just cheap. I'm a lawyer and I don't feel like I deserve to tell other professions what they should or should not charge, not begrudge them a customary tip because they didn't go to extensive, expensive schooling. They aren't better than me.

** SORRY meant to say I am not better than them.

This. Seriously. People are also assuming that they are busy 40+ hours a week. They may have double booked clients in weekends but except during the holiday season, they seem pretty open on weekdays. If you value someone repeatedly doing a nice hair style, you should tip them according to custom.

Some hairstylists are MUCH better than others. But a hairstylist is more of an artist. It wouldn't work out too well for me if I started putting a lot of artistry and creativity into my legal briefings. Pretty sure my clients don't want to pay for that. But I do appreciate a stylist who looks at my hair, face and coloring and can use her art to make me look even better.

Regardless, tipping for stylists is the standard and has been for at least my entire lifetime.
Where have you been? I've been paying for my own haircuts for almost 25 years. In all different locations around the country. During that time the standard was always 20%.
There are plenty of articles on customary tipping amounts. Some from decades ago.

And I see hairstyling as different than a service from a doctor or lawyer. There is a lot of artistry that goes into it.

Who makes this custom? If you value their service, you show them by paying what they charge and coming back as a customer. Tipping has gotten so out of hand, sorry.

Where have you been? I've been paying for my own haircuts for almost 25 years. In all different locations around the country. During that time the standard was always 20%.
There are plenty of articles on customary tipping amounts. Some from decades ago.

And I see hairstyling as different than a service from a doctor or lawyer. There is a lot of artistry that goes into it.

Do you tip your lawyer 20% for services? Skills vary a lot from lawyer to lawyer and some are much better than others.

[Anonymous]

To those making calculations about where the fee for service goes in a salon - some to the stylist some to the salon owner - I haven’t seen any of you factoring the cost of materials, which aren’t cheap. All the product they use on your hair from shampoo/conditioner to color, keratin treatment, styling product, etc. - that all costs plenty and the high end salon is using the high end expensive products. Yes they likely get a wholesale price, but still it’s cutting into the service price so don’t think it’s all going into the pocket of stylist or salon owner. Plenty of other overhead costs, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To those making calculations about where the fee for service goes in a salon - some to the stylist some to the salon owner - I haven’t seen any of you factoring the cost of materials, which aren’t cheap. All the product they use on your hair from shampoo/conditioner to color, keratin treatment, styling product, etc. - that all costs plenty and the high end salon is using the high end expensive products. Yes they likely get a wholesale price, but still it’s cutting into the service price so don’t think it’s all going into the pocket of stylist or salon owner. Plenty of other overhead costs, too.

That’s factored into their cost of doing business which sets their prices. Do you tip your doctor because they use paper, bandaids, saline, pay someone to answer the phone, has a website, and needs a Zoom subscription now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To those making calculations about where the fee for service goes in a salon - some to the stylist some to the salon owner - I haven’t seen any of you factoring the cost of materials, which aren’t cheap. All the product they use on your hair from shampoo/conditioner to color, keratin treatment, styling product, etc. - that all costs plenty and the high end salon is using the high end expensive products. Yes they likely get a wholesale price, but still it’s cutting into the service price so don’t think it’s all going into the pocket of stylist or salon owner. Plenty of other overhead costs, too.

That’s factored into their cost of doing business which sets their prices. Do you tip your doctor because they use paper, bandaids, saline, pay someone to answer the phone, has a website, and needs a Zoom subscription now?

The fact is that the compensation for a stylist has historically been in part based on tips plus part of the cost of the service. You can start a crusade to change the industry (and while you're at it the restaurant tipping compensation scheme) but shorting the person who performs your service because you believe the entire industry is wrong is not a great way to go about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The anger about paying a talented worker for their services from a bunch of people who bill or who have spouse's who bill $300+ an hour is impressive.

Except those billing $300 plus per hr went to 10 yrs of medical training or 4 yrs of law school plus internships at the cost of several hundred thousand dollars in education to be able to bill as such. That is not a comparable skill and investment to cosmetology school and cutting/coloring hair. There time is certainly worth money and salons do charge a lot for services, but sorry, I'm not "tipping" an extra $60 for 2 hrs of work which I already am paying for.

You are just cheap. I'm a lawyer and I don't feel like I deserve to tell other professions what they should or should not charge, not begrudge them a customary tip because they didn't go to extensive, expensive schooling. They aren't better than me.

** SORRY meant to say I am not better than them.

This. Seriously. People are also assuming that they are busy 40+ hours a week. They may have double booked clients in weekends but except during the holiday season, they seem pretty open on weekdays. If you value someone repeatedly doing a nice hair style, you should tip them according to custom.

Well, you are cheap. And you are spending above your means if you complain about a 20% tip, so find a less expensive service and stop complaining.
Not the customers job to provide a full time income for a part time job. They should set their rates accordingly and stop expecting $80 tips under the table. I go to an expensive salon and I tip but I don’t like it so I don’t go as often as I’d like to. Paying $30 to NOT leave with a wet head after spending $300 on cut and color feels especially great. And for this, I get called “cheap” . Fun!

[Anonymous]

Not the customers job to provide a full time income for a part time job. They should set their rates accordingly and stop expecting $80 tips under the table. I go to an expensive salon and I tip but I don’t like it so I don’t go as often as I’d like to. Paying $30 to NOT leave with a wet head after spending $300 on cut and color feels especially great. And for this, I get called “cheap” . Fun!

Well, you are cheap. And you are spending above your means if you complain about a 20% tip, so find a less expensive service and stop complaining.