You'll get there faster if you walk: New speed limits in Mo County

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I'm all for the lower speed limits.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm all for the lower speed limits.

And getting people out of those awful SUV and onto buses & metro!

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Anonymous wrote:It's about Vision zero, and pedestrian safety.

And Casey Anderson, Planning Board Chair, wanting everyone to bike or take public transit, and not use their cars (County Council too). The plan is to make driving so bad, everyone either leaves, uses an alternative means of transportation.

I think the most ridiculous part is the three quarters of a mile that they shrunk Old Georgetown Road from three lanes to two. That's already bad, going to be a disaster when everyone heads back to the office.

Not at all ridiculous. A kid was killed there fairly recently because the sidewalks are not safe for biking and he was jettisoned from his bike into traffic. They make a bike lane for the miles around the YMCA, as it’s a heavily travelled by kids going to the Y or getting on the trolley trail. The bike lane was a fabulous idea and I wish it extended a few more blocks on either side.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm all for the lower speed limits.

Lowered speed limits are impractical in many areas. Doing 25/35 on four-lane Georgia Ave heading toward Aspen Hill is ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s for pedestrian safety.

Most pedestrian deaths in MoCo are people running across huge streets in the middle of a block, often wearing dark clothes at night.

You're right. We need even lower speed limits.

No. We need fewer dumbasses running across busy roads in the dark wearing dark clothing.

My local neighborhood wants lower speed limits so it is safer to walk in the street.

This is a bad pandemic habit that needs to go. People just stare at you as you try to drive down the street, like "How dare you drive on my spacious walking path?!"

This was pre covid-19. We don't have sidewalks. Instead of giving up some right of way for sidewalks, the decision is reduce traffic speeds and add as many stop signs as possible.

Seems like it would be a lot safer to just take 7 feet of people's front yards and make a sidewalk. Then no one needs to walk in the street.


-cue DCUM’rs clutching their pearls about their property values....

Yes, I don't understand this, in terms of equity. I have to give an easement at the front of my property for this public good, why doesn't everyone?!

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Anonymous wrote:It’s for pedestrian safety.

Most pedestrian deaths in MoCo are people running across huge streets in the middle of a block, often wearing dark clothes at night.

You're right. We need even lower speed limits.

No. We need fewer dumbasses running across busy roads in the dark wearing dark clothing.

My local neighborhood wants lower speed limits so it is safer to walk in the street.

This is a bad pandemic habit that needs to go. People just stare at you as you try to drive down the street, like "How dare you drive on my spacious walking path?!"

This was pre covid-19. We don't have sidewalks. Instead of giving up some right of way for sidewalks, the decision is reduce traffic speeds and add as many stop signs as possible.

Seems like it would be a lot safer to just take 7 feet of people's front yards and make a sidewalk. Then no one needs to walk in the street.


-cue DCUM’rs clutching their pearls about their property values....

Yes, I don't understand this, in terms of equity. I have to give an easement at the front of my property for this public good, why doesn't everyone?!

You don’t “give an easement.” Every street should have sidewalks, they are desirable and thus increase property values.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm all for the lower speed limits.

Lowered speed limits are impractical in many areas. Doing 25/35 on four-lane Georgia Ave heading toward Aspen Hill is ridiculous.

It’s not ridiculous. Not at all.

It is for many reasons: the environment (or don’t you believe in science?).

It’s for equity. And it’s for revenue to fund important projects.

You are ridiculous PP.

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Anonymous wrote:While the roads display millions of signs for drivers, there are virtually ZERO signs for perestrians on the sidewalks rhat warn, inform or alert them just like they do for drivers.

There should be painted signs along the curd in the jay walk areas stating and informing that Jaywlking is illeegal, dangerous, can result in death and will result in fines on a good day if you make it in the other side safely..

We live in the HEAVY populated area with lots of people coming to visit or live from abroad who are used to crossing the street wherever and do not realize the dangers or illegality of this.

Bo. the creepy buss stop ads do not work as they are NOT in the right places for one, and for two the penalty of fine is often greater deterrant then ridiculous picture of a person with yhe tire mark on the face.


Yhere are well known streaches of the buzy streets where people cross more and die.
If a city would try and put a painted signs alonf the curbs there;

Crossing here is illegal. Fine; 100 Dollars

Crossing here after dark, fine doubles. 200 Dollars.

Di you want to bet that the deaths would not dissappear>

Ad to this.. note that this area is monitored by pedestrian camera and police will show up if find you crossing and no life will be lost ever again.

MONEY is what keeps us safer from the speeders on the road and money could keep walkers safe from their risky behaviour.

Omg! Victim blaming!

This would never be allowed because it would create the impression in some that people bear some responsibility for their actions.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s for pedestrian safety.

Most pedestrian deaths in MoCo are people running across huge streets in the middle of a block, often wearing dark clothes at night.

Someone did this to me last year on 355 in front of the Best Buy store. I didn't hit them but it scared the crap out of me and I was pretty mad that they would run across Rockville Pike at night wearing all black. Why do people do this (and I mean this question seriously)?

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Anonymous wrote:I think we need a lot more restrictions. Bethesda is still a deathtrap for cyclists and pedestrians. At the type of density we are now at, it does not make sense for everything to be built for cars rather than people.

People are in cars and with the amount of density that MoCo is allowing, there needs to be common sense regarding roads. I'm not suggesting pedestrians and cyclists take a back seat, but with more cars moving through the roads, The Powers That Be need to do a better job with traffic for everyone. Simply reducing speed limits is not the answer.

You're right! There also need to be a lot more signals for pedestrians, wider sidewalks, curb bump-outs, road diets, protected bike lanes, stop signs, reduced curb radii, speed cameras, red-light cameras, distracted-driving cameras, safer walk-to-school routes, narrower travel lanes, no-right-on-red restrictions, and so on. As you say, simply reducing speed limits is not the answer.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s for pedestrian safety.

Most pedestrian deaths in MoCo are people running across huge streets in the middle of a block, often wearing dark clothes at night.

Someone did this to me last year on 355 in front of the Best Buy store. I didn't hit them but it scared the crap out of me and I was pretty mad that they would run across Rockville Pike at night wearing all black. Why do people do this (and I mean this question seriously)?

People run across Rockville Pike because it's six lanes of drivers going at least 40 mph, so at least running gets you across faster, and people wear black at night because people wear black clothes generally.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm all for the lower speed limits.

Lowered speed limits are impractical in many areas. Doing 25/35 on four-lane Georgia Ave heading toward Aspen Hill is ridiculous.

Why? Where do you need to be so urgently that you can't arrive there 5 minutes later?

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Yhere are well known streaches of the buzy streets where people cross more and die.
If a city would try and put a painted signs alonf the curbs there;

Crossing here is illegal. Fine; 100 Dollars

Crossing here after dark, fine doubles. 200 Dollars.

Di you want to bet that the deaths would not dissappear>

Ad to this.. note that this area is monitored by pedestrian camera and police will show up if find you crossing and no life will be lost ever again.

MONEY is what keeps us safer from the speeders on the road and money could keep walkers safe from their risky behaviour.

Interesting, because my approach for places where many drivers have killed pedestrians crossing the road is to make those places safer for pedestrians to cross the road.

What's more, in most of those places you're thinking of, it's NOT illegal to cross the road. Do you think that the police should issue citations and fines for lawful behavior?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s for pedestrian safety.

Most pedestrian deaths in MoCo are people running across huge streets in the middle of a block, often wearing dark clothes at night.

That's actually not true. Going back to the beginning of 2020 in Montgomery County, drivers killed pedestrians

-in a paint-on-the-pavement crosswalk
-at an intersection (wearing reflective clothing)
-in a paint-on-the-pavement crosswalk
-in a paint-on-the-pavement crosswalk
-at an intersection (in daylight)
-standing by the side of the road
-at an intersection
-standing by the side of the road (in daylight)
-at an intersection
-in a construction trench (in daylight)
-on the sidewalk (in daylight)
-at a shopping center driveway
-at an intersection
-at an intersection
-not at an intersection (at a bus stop)
-in a paint-on-the-pavement crosswalk (with a broken pedestrian signal)
-at an intersection

[Anonymous]

You'll get there faster if you walk

But everyone will be alive.