There you go again, Courtland Milloy

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Anonymous wrote:In a column in today's Post, Courtland Milloy bemoans the rising rents and other economic changes in the 14th St area, while acknowledging that for decades the area was pretty barren after the destruction of the '68 riots, not to mention the former drug dealing and prostitution. At the end, he writes,

"But who you are more likely to see along this gilded avenue, clustered at many of the sidewalk cafes, are groups of young white people. A new gourmet magazine might cast the scene as a feast on 14th Street. But for those who have been priced out of the neighborhood, it might look more like white folks just gobbling up the last pieces of a Chocolate City."

Certainly the economic impact of gentrification and the need for more affordable housing are worthy concerns. But if a modern-day major newspaper columnist had written a "there goes the neighborhood" racial lament over black or brown people moving into a once-white area, he would be shamed and shunned (and likely would lose his column). This is not the first time. Why is Milloy still at the Post?

1. The notion that 14th street represents the last pieces of black DC, or even close it it, is laughable, and CM knows it. DC is still 50% black, and still has neighborhoods totally untouched by the gilded set.

2. Is it worth mentioning that the gilded set on 14th street includes Asians, and maybe even a few well to do blacks? Or that there are many poor blacks who live in the area thanks to committed affordable housing? It depends if you want an accurate picture of race in DC, or just CM sh*t stirring.

3. At least he is not writing about bike lanes. I guess there is no actual policy change he is suggesting in this column, is there? Just more culture war at DC yuppies, fired from his residence in PG County?

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DC was 49.5 percent AA in 2010 and the trend has been a one percent annual decrease since 2000, when it was 61 percent. Many demographers will tell you that whites now likely outnumber AAs.

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Anonymous wrote:I just read the whole column and I thought it was spot on. 14th street is literally unrecognizable from what it was even 5 years ago. I do think that U street is still a more multicultural scene than many places in the city, but the change is undeniable. It's not that white people don't have a right to move where they want - it's that it is a loss to the people who have been displaced. Another very important point he makes is that even though there was crime and disrepair before gentrification, that does not mean there wasn't also life and culture and neighborhood. That is what has been lost to some, undeniably.

Then he should have said so. Instead, Milloy can't hide his clearly racist bias where he views non-black residents in DC as being in some zero-sum game in which African-Americans are the loser. If one took his column and substituted white for black as the aggrieved and black for white as the supposed negative change agents -- and if Milloy were a white columnist -- he would have been told to clean out his desk already.

I guess that now that Marion Barry is dead, someone had to take up the role of crazy old racist uncle in DC.

FYI blacks cannot be racist toward white people. Just about everyone has preferences and prejudices, some are based on actual experience and others based on fear and misinformation, but racism is systemic...racism is institutional where one group has the power to take its prejudices and exercise them upon others with impunity. Blacks don't have that power. Sure blacks can dislike whites, but what can they do to subjugate whites as a whole and keep them down and disenfranchised? NOTHING. Our society isn't set up to allow whites to be in such a predicament; our society is set up to prevent whites from being in such a predicament. Our society was set up to keep whites in a permanent position of power and no matter how biased or bigoted blacks may individually the systems and institutions in place explicitly prevent blacks from collectively ascending to a position where they are able to keep whites down. Racism is about power not mere prejudice.

Oh...and I don't give a shit if you disagree - that's my individual prejudice at work but don't worry like I said prejudice doesn't make me all powerful and it doesn't enable me to keep any of you down.

That's absolute bullshit - blacks can indeed be racist toward white people, and in fact some are. And in fact there are even instances of institutionalized racism toward whites, instances where blacks are indeed in power. That was the case in DC for decades. There are indeed blacks who do take opportunities to put whites in positions of weakness wherever they see the opportunity. Any close observer of interactions in DC will see that regularly - on the streets and sidewalks, in business, many places, where blacks will treat whites like they don't belong, et cetera. Maybe this doesn't happen in the mostly-white 3rd Ward enclaves, but elsewhere, where neighborhoods are a lot more predominantly AA and transitional, I've been seeing this routinely. There is no society with a big 'S' - there is no global framework - it is a patchwork of local and regional views, even going down to a block-by-block level.

Yeah well just like you see all black perpetrators as thugs and all white perpetrators as poor misguided people who simply lost their way and no one can convince you other wise - same stubborn mindset here. Like I said I don't give a shit if you disagree you ain't omnipotent and your opinions aren't insusceptible to being full of absolute bullshit either. Cheers!

I never said or implied that blacks are thugs or that whites were somehow excusable... so apparently your bullshit continues to flow

Well as you eloquently detailed in your patchwork of local and regional views narrative apparently everything is relative - including your argument so you're not gonna convince me that you're not the one spouting bullshit and I honestly couldn't care less if you think I'm blathering bullshit...believe what you want. I see my respective truth on a day to day basis and you don't cause you're too busy rolling your eyes in self-righteous arrogance. Congrats.

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Anonymous wrote:DC was 49.5 percent AA in 2010 and the trend has been a one percent annual decrease since 2000, when it was 61 percent. Many demographers will tell you that whites now likely outnumber AAs.

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/11000.html

as of 2013, Census estimated the black population at 49.5 % and the white population (including white hispanics) at 43.3%. White nonhispanics were only 35.8%.

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Courtland Milloy was right on one thing: Chocolate City is melting.

Cities change. What were once German immigrant neighborhoods became Italian became Eastern European Jewish became African American became upscale Millenial playgrounds. Whatever.

Mr. Milloy, in the immortal words of the late Marion Barry, just "get over it."

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Anonymous wrote:I just read the whole column and I thought it was spot on. 14th street is literally unrecognizable from what it was even 5 years ago. I do think that U street is still a more multicultural scene than many places in the city, but the change is undeniable. It's not that white people don't have a right to move where they want - it's that it is a loss to the people who have been displaced. Another very important point he makes is that even though there was crime and disrepair before gentrification, that does not mean there wasn't also life and culture and neighborhood. That is what has been lost to some, undeniably.

Then he should have said so. Instead, Milloy can't hide his clearly racist bias where he views non-black residents in DC as being in some zero-sum game in which African-Americans are the loser. If one took his column and substituted white for black as the aggrieved and black for white as the supposed negative change agents -- and if Milloy were a white columnist -- he would have been told to clean out his desk already.

I guess that now that Marion Barry is dead, someone had to take up the role of crazy old racist uncle in DC.

FYI blacks cannot be racist toward white people. Just about everyone has preferences and prejudices, some are based on actual experience and others based on fear and misinformation, but racism is systemic...racism is institutional where one group has the power to take its prejudices and exercise them upon others with impunity. Blacks don't have that power. Sure blacks can dislike whites, but what can they do to subjugate whites as a whole and keep them down and disenfranchised? NOTHING. Our society isn't set up to allow whites to be in such a predicament; our society is set up to prevent whites from being in such a predicament. Our society was set up to keep whites in a permanent position of power and no matter how biased or bigoted blacks may individually the systems and institutions in place explicitly prevent blacks from collectively ascending to a position where they are able to keep whites down. Racism is about power not mere prejudice.

Oh...and I don't give a shit if you disagree - that's my individual prejudice at work but don't worry like I said prejudice doesn't make me all powerful and it doesn't enable me to keep any of you down.

That's absolute bullshit - blacks can indeed be racist toward white people, and in fact some are. And in fact there are even instances of institutionalized racism toward whites, instances where blacks are indeed in power. That was the case in DC for decades. There are indeed blacks who do take opportunities to put whites in positions of weakness wherever they see the opportunity. Any close observer of interactions in DC will see that regularly - on the streets and sidewalks, in business, many places, where blacks will treat whites like they don't belong, et cetera. Maybe this doesn't happen in the mostly-white 3rd Ward enclaves, but elsewhere, where neighborhoods are a lot more predominantly AA and transitional, I've been seeing this routinely. There is no society with a big 'S' - there is no global framework - it is a patchwork of local and regional views, even going down to a block-by-block level.

Yeah well just like you see all black perpetrators as thugs and all white perpetrators as poor misguided people who simply lost their way and no one can convince you other wise - same stubborn mindset here. Like I said I don't give a shit if you disagree you ain't omnipotent and your opinions aren't insusceptible to being full of absolute bullshit either. Cheers!

I never said or implied that blacks are thugs or that whites were somehow excusable... so apparently your bullshit continues to flow

Well as you eloquently detailed in your patchwork of local and regional views narrative apparently everything is relative - including your argument so you're not gonna convince me that you're not the one spouting bullshit and I honestly couldn't care less if you think I'm blathering bullshit...believe what you want. I see my respective truth on a day to day basis and you don't cause you're too busy rolling your eyes in self-righteous arrogance. Congrats.

You are so busy yammering that you don't even bother reading.

If your so-called "respective truth" is that I ever called blacks thugs or that I excused whites then that means your "respective truth" is bullshit. PERIOD. If you want to call it "truth" then you need to prove it. Post the exact quotation from this thread where I supposedly called blacks thugs. I KNOW YOU CAN"T BECAUSE I POSTED NO SUCH THING. EVER. GOT IT? BULL! SHIT!!

You need to get a grip. Seriously.

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Anonymous wrote:I just read the whole column and I thought it was spot on. 14th street is literally unrecognizable from what it was even 5 years ago. I do think that U street is still a more multicultural scene than many places in the city, but the change is undeniable. It's not that white people don't have a right to move where they want - it's that it is a loss to the people who have been displaced. Another very important point he makes is that even though there was crime and disrepair before gentrification, that does not mean there wasn't also life and culture and neighborhood. That is what has been lost to some, undeniably.

Then he should have said so. Instead, Milloy can't hide his clearly racist bias where he views non-black residents in DC as being in some zero-sum game in which African-Americans are the loser. If one took his column and substituted white for black as the aggrieved and black for white as the supposed negative change agents -- and if Milloy were a white columnist -- he would have been told to clean out his desk already.

I guess that now that Marion Barry is dead, someone had to take up the role of crazy old racist uncle in DC.

FYI blacks cannot be racist toward white people. Just about everyone has preferences and prejudices, some are based on actual experience and others based on fear and misinformation, but racism is systemic...racism is institutional where one group has the power to take its prejudices and exercise them upon others with impunity. Blacks don't have that power. Sure blacks can dislike whites, but what can they do to subjugate whites as a whole and keep them down and disenfranchised? NOTHING. Our society isn't set up to allow whites to be in such a predicament; our society is set up to prevent whites from being in such a predicament. Our society was set up to keep whites in a permanent position of power and no matter how biased or bigoted blacks may individually the systems and institutions in place explicitly prevent blacks from collectively ascending to a position where they are able to keep whites down. Racism is about power not mere prejudice.

Oh...and I don't give a shit if you disagree - that's my individual prejudice at work but don't worry like I said prejudice doesn't make me all powerful and it doesn't enable me to keep any of you down.

That's absolute bullshit - blacks can indeed be racist toward white people, and in fact some are. And in fact there are even instances of institutionalized racism toward whites, instances where blacks are indeed in power. That was the case in DC for decades. There are indeed blacks who do take opportunities to put whites in positions of weakness wherever they see the opportunity. Any close observer of interactions in DC will see that regularly - on the streets and sidewalks, in business, many places, where blacks will treat whites like they don't belong, et cetera. Maybe this doesn't happen in the mostly-white 3rd Ward enclaves, but elsewhere, where neighborhoods are a lot more predominantly AA and transitional, I've been seeing this routinely. There is no society with a big 'S' - there is no global framework - it is a patchwork of local and regional views, even going down to a block-by-block level.

Yeah well just like you see all black perpetrators as thugs and all white perpetrators as poor misguided people who simply lost their way and no one can convince you other wise - same stubborn mindset here. Like I said I don't give a shit if you disagree you ain't omnipotent and your opinions aren't insusceptible to being full of absolute bullshit either. Cheers!

I never said or implied that blacks are thugs or that whites were somehow excusable... so apparently your bullshit continues to flow

Well as you eloquently detailed in your patchwork of local and regional views narrative apparently everything is relative - including your argument so you're not gonna convince me that you're not the one spouting bullshit and I honestly couldn't care less if you think I'm blathering bullshit...believe what you want. I see my respective truth on a day to day basis and you don't cause you're too busy rolling your eyes in self-righteous arrogance. Congrats.

You are so busy yammering that you don't even bother reading.

If your so-called "respective truth" is that I ever called blacks thugs or that I excused whites then that means your "respective truth" is bullshit. PERIOD. If you want to call it "truth" then you need to prove it. Post the exact quotation from this thread where I supposedly called blacks thugs. I KNOW YOU CAN"T BECAUSE I POSTED NO SUCH THING. EVER. GOT IT? BULL! SHIT!!

You need to get a grip. Seriously.

I hope you don't own a gun. Your writing suggests that you have anger management issues.

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Anonymous wrote:DC was 49.5 percent AA in 2010 and the trend has been a one percent annual decrease since 2000, when it was 61 percent. Many demographers will tell you that whites now likely outnumber AAs.

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/11000.html

as of 2013, Census estimated the black population at 49.5 % and the white population (including white hispanics) at 43.3%. White nonhispanics were only 35.8%.

DC's demographics today are roughly what they were in 1960.

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Anonymous wrote:I just read the whole column and I thought it was spot on. 14th street is literally unrecognizable from what it was even 5 years ago. I do think that U street is still a more multicultural scene than many places in the city, but the change is undeniable. It's not that white people don't have a right to move where they want - it's that it is a loss to the people who have been displaced. Another very important point he makes is that even though there was crime and disrepair before gentrification, that does not mean there wasn't also life and culture and neighborhood. That is what has been lost to some, undeniably.

Then he should have said so. Instead, Milloy can't hide his clearly racist bias where he views non-black residents in DC as being in some zero-sum game in which African-Americans are the loser. If one took his column and substituted white for black as the aggrieved and black for white as the supposed negative change agents -- and if Milloy were a white columnist -- he would have been told to clean out his desk already.

I guess that now that Marion Barry is dead, someone had to take up the role of crazy old racist uncle in DC.

FYI blacks cannot be racist toward white people. Just about everyone has preferences and prejudices, some are based on actual experience and others based on fear and misinformation, but racism is systemic...racism is institutional where one group has the power to take its prejudices and exercise them upon others with impunity. Blacks don't have that power. Sure blacks can dislike whites, but what can they do to subjugate whites as a whole and keep them down and disenfranchised? NOTHING. Our society isn't set up to allow whites to be in such a predicament; our society is set up to prevent whites from being in such a predicament. Our society was set up to keep whites in a permanent position of power and no matter how biased or bigoted blacks may individually the systems and institutions in place explicitly prevent blacks from collectively ascending to a position where they are able to keep whites down. Racism is about power not mere prejudice.

Oh...and I don't give a shit if you disagree - that's my individual prejudice at work but don't worry like I said prejudice doesn't make me all powerful and it doesn't enable me to keep any of you down.

That's absolute bullshit - blacks can indeed be racist toward white people, and in fact some are. And in fact there are even instances of institutionalized racism toward whites, instances where blacks are indeed in power. That was the case in DC for decades. There are indeed blacks who do take opportunities to put whites in positions of weakness wherever they see the opportunity. Any close observer of interactions in DC will see that regularly - on the streets and sidewalks, in business, many places, where blacks will treat whites like they don't belong, et cetera. Maybe this doesn't happen in the mostly-white 3rd Ward enclaves, but elsewhere, where neighborhoods are a lot more predominantly AA and transitional, I've been seeing this routinely. There is no society with a big 'S' - there is no global framework - it is a patchwork of local and regional views, even going down to a block-by-block level.

Yeah well just like you see all black perpetrators as thugs and all white perpetrators as poor misguided people who simply lost their way and no one can convince you other wise - same stubborn mindset here. Like I said I don't give a shit if you disagree you ain't omnipotent and your opinions aren't insusceptible to being full of absolute bullshit either. Cheers!

I never said or implied that blacks are thugs or that whites were somehow excusable... so apparently your bullshit continues to flow

Well as you eloquently detailed in your patchwork of local and regional views narrative apparently everything is relative - including your argument so you're not gonna convince me that you're not the one spouting bullshit and I honestly couldn't care less if you think I'm blathering bullshit...believe what you want. I see my respective truth on a day to day basis and you don't cause you're too busy rolling your eyes in self-righteous arrogance. Congrats.

You are so busy yammering that you don't even bother reading.

If your so-called "respective truth" is that I ever called blacks thugs or that I excused whites then that means your "respective truth" is bullshit. PERIOD. If you want to call it "truth" then you need to prove it. Post the exact quotation from this thread where I supposedly called blacks thugs. I KNOW YOU CAN"T BECAUSE I POSTED NO SUCH THING. EVER. GOT IT? BULL! SHIT!!

You need to get a grip. Seriously.

I hope you don't own a gun. Your writing suggests that you have anger management issues.

Nope. Just a low tolerance threshold for bullshit.