Can teachers fail a student for bad grades now a days?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a teacher and I've have kids who have failed every subject. You would think that would make them automatically fail the grade and have to repeat it. You would be wrong. Some of those kids will not be retained and will move on to the next grade against his/her teachers' objections.

Is this because of "no child left behind?"

I think so. My niece, who has failed classes throughout high school, managed to move to the next grade by taking summer school. She "passed" summer school although I didn't see any improvements. She can't spell, she can't do algebra, and she never uses punctuation because her teacher told her she doesn't have too.

She is set to graduate this year. MCPS is releasing a poor performer into the world.

She doesn't have plans to go to college. She is thinking beauty school, so I guess MCPS recognized that it made no sense to spend a lot of resources on her because they knew it would be a waste.

[Anonymous]

Is this because of "no child left behind?"

This was the reason NCLB was created, I think. It has not helped at all. Common Core won't help either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a teacher and I've have kids who have failed every subject. You would think that would make them automatically fail the grade and have to repeat it. You would be wrong. Some of those kids will not be retained and will move on to the next grade against his/her teachers' objections.

Is this because of "no child left behind?"

I think so. My niece, who has failed classes throughout high school, managed to move to the next grade by taking summer school. She "passed" summer school although I didn't see any improvements. She can't spell, she can't do algebra, and she never uses punctuation because her teacher told her she doesn't have too.

She is set to graduate this year. MCPS is releasing a poor performer into the world.

She doesn't have plans to go to college. She is thinking beauty school, so I guess MCPS recognized that it made no sense to spend a lot of resources on her because they knew it would be a waste.

I think MCPS needs to be sure these children graduate with a full K-6 elementary education. I agree they do not need to overinvest in a child like this beyond interventions and summer school to get them up to graduating high school standards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a teacher and I've have kids who have failed every subject. You would think that would make them automatically fail the grade and have to repeat it. You would be wrong. Some of those kids will not be retained and will move on to the next grade against his/her teachers' objections.

Is this because of "no child left behind?"

I think so. My niece, who has failed classes throughout high school, managed to move to the next grade by taking summer school. She "passed" summer school although I didn't see any improvements. She can't spell, she can't do algebra, and she never uses punctuation because her teacher told her she doesn't have too.

She is set to graduate this year. MCPS is releasing a poor performer into the world.

She doesn't have plans to go to college. She is thinking beauty school, so I guess MCPS recognized that it made no sense to spend a lot of resources on her because they knew it would be a waste.

But MCPS doesn't do enough for these kids.

I teach in MCPS and work with a lot of under-performing students. We need to bring back vocational education and really invest in it. Frederick County does a great job with this. They have the equivalent of three vocational education schools to our one (Edison) and they are half our size. Until MCPS realizes that all of our students are not heading off to get a bachelors degree, our county as a whole will suffer.

These kids are falling through the cracks. Your niece is a perfect example of a student who should have spent her last two years of HS going through the cosmetology pathway and graduating with a certification and ready to head to work upon graduation. It would have saved her family money, time and your niece a lot of trouble.

While these programs are available at Edison, they are poorly marketed and impossible to get into. Students must have a minimum GPA (I think a 2.0 but could be higher) and almost perfect attendance. When you are a kid who doesn't like school or haven't been successful there, explain to me how your attendance and grades will be at a level to admit you into this program?

In addition, you only spend three periods at Edison, not a full day, so a lot of these students still report to their home schools for math, English, science, etc. To me, it would make more sense to have the vocational students stay in one place, learn functional math, reading and writing skills that relate to real-world situations, and teach them a trade where they will be successful.

I have several friends who work in construction, cosmetology, HVAC repair and they are doing very well for themselves, especially the people who own their own businesses. I don't know why the county can't accept this as a viable option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a teacher and I've have kids who have failed every subject. You would think that would make them automatically fail the grade and have to repeat it. You would be wrong. Some of those kids will not be retained and will move on to the next grade against his/her teachers' objections.

Is this because of "no child left behind?"

I think so. My niece, who has failed classes throughout high school, managed to move to the next grade by taking summer school. She "passed" summer school although I didn't see any improvements. She can't spell, she can't do algebra, and she never uses punctuation because her teacher told her she doesn't have too.

She is set to graduate this year. MCPS is releasing a poor performer into the world.

She doesn't have plans to go to college. She is thinking beauty school, so I guess MCPS recognized that it made no sense to spend a lot of resources on her because they knew it would be a waste.

But MCPS doesn't do enough for these kids.

I teach in MCPS and work with a lot of under-performing students. We need to bring back vocational education and really invest in it. Frederick County does a great job with this. They have the equivalent of three vocational education schools to our one (Edison) and they are half our size. Until MCPS realizes that all of our students are not heading off to get a bachelors degree, our county as a whole will suffer.

These kids are falling through the cracks. Your niece is a perfect example of a student who should have spent her last two years of HS going through the cosmetology pathway and graduating with a certification and ready to head to work upon graduation. It would have saved her family money, time and your niece a lot of trouble.

While these programs are available at Edison, they are poorly marketed and impossible to get into. Students must have a minimum GPA (I think a 2.0 but could be higher) and almost perfect attendance. When you are a kid who doesn't like school or haven't been successful there, explain to me how your attendance and grades will be at a level to admit you into this program?

In addition, you only spend three periods at Edison, not a full day, so a lot of these students still report to their home schools for math, English, science, etc. To me, it would make more sense to have the vocational students stay in one place, learn functional math, reading and writing skills that relate to real-world situations, and teach them a trade where they will be successful.

I have several friends who work in construction, cosmetology, HVAC repair and they are doing very well for themselves, especially the people who own their own businesses. I don't know why the county can't accept this as a viable option.

+1000

also a teacher at a low performing school who embraces the trades! I come from a family of tradesmen who made MORE money than I'll ever see in my lifetime.

[Anonymous]

When I was growing up, our school system had an upholstery school on the other side of town. Mom took furniture to be upholstered there. Cheap.
Has anyone had anything upholstered lately? Wow. $$$$$$