Can MD residents enter DC charter lottery?

[Anonymous]

13:17 PP, yes, I see you agree that using the DC address would be quite shady.

[Anonymous]

^^ Uh, the person who needs to be concerned over karma is your rude ass, PP. OP came on here asking for factual info. and you came on here spewing your hate at the world. Do us a favor- next time just beat your wife like you normally do and keep your abusive nonsense off DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To answer OPs question, yes you may enter the lottery while residing outside the district. Upon acceptance and enrollment you just provide proof of residency. I personally know of three families who did at YY. Actually, the Washington Post did a story on one of the parents who moved his family from Chicago once his son was offered a spot off the wait list. I know of another family that sold their home in Upper Marlboro and rented a house in DC until they found something to purchase two years later. I would think there are other stories out there like that.

The question is: what address did the Chicago family use to apply? Did they tell the truth on the app, or use a DC addy and move quickly when they got in? And what year was this?

Bottom line: beware lying on your form. If your kid doesn't go home to and sleep at your application address most nights of the week/month/year, you risk getting booted. And DEFINITELY by enrollment time that's true. Simple as that. And believe it - almost all cheaters who get caught and booted thought they'd never get caught.

According to the family, they used the Chicago address, as they were unfamiliar with DC at the time.

[Anonymous]

That is at the. Time of application submission. D. Resident when registered

[Anonymous]

I just reviewed the PCSB guidelines, and don't see anything about DC residents having lottery preference. Is that just implied? It does spell out preferences for siblings and children of school founders.

http://www.dcpcsb.org/data/images/full%20final%20copy%20with%20links%20-%20100511.pdf

[Anonymous]

We had no problem entering the lottery with an out of state address. I did the applications then called each school to explain we were moving in to DC. In fact we got a spot at a coveted charter in the lottery but didn't actually move to DC until August. When we were notified I simply called the school and told them our situation- they were fine with it. When we came house hunting in June we went by the school and introduced myself. They were completely pleasant and said we will see you when school starts. When we had the address (about a week before school started) I completely forgot to tell the school. First day of school my child had name tag, on class roll, etc. I went and filled out my paperwork with our new address and we were done. Easy.

[Anonymous]

Um, yes. Think of the overarching mission:

The organization’s mission is to provide
high quality public school options for District of Columbia students, families, and
community through four functions:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^ Uh, the person who needs to be concerned over karma is your rude ass, PP. OP came on here asking for factual info. and you came on here spewing your hate at the world. Do us a favor- next time just beat your wife like you normally do and keep your abusive nonsense off DCUM.

Not that poster, but why is pointing out that OP would doing something shady/unethical/illegal, hateful? I for one think it's right to point out ethical errors and that cheating gets you instant bad karma.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just reviewed the PCSB guidelines, and don't see anything about DC residents having lottery preference. Is that just implied? It does spell out preferences for siblings and children of school founders.

http://www.dcpcsb.org/data/images/full%20final%20copy%20with%20links%20-%20100511.pdf

There is NO preference. It's a school for DC kids, period. Hence the governmental entity DC Public Schoolss, not PGps. It's not like DC residents want a preference for PG schools, is it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We had no problem entering the lottery with an out of state address. I did the applications then called each school to explain we were moving in to DC. In fact we got a spot at a coveted charter in the lottery but didn't actually move to DC until August. When we were notified I simply called the school and told them our situation- they were fine with it. When we came house hunting in June we went by the school and introduced myself. They were completely pleasant and said we will see you when school starts. When we had the address (about a week before school started) I completely forgot to tell the school. First day of school my child had name tag, on class roll, etc. I went and filled out my paperwork with our new address and we were done. Easy.

I think there is a perceived difference between someone coming from so far away that they are clearly moving to DC for the school year because commuting would be impossible, vs. someone who could say they're moving and then stay in MD and commute.

But more importantly, what year did you apply with your out of state addy PP? Things have changed in just the last year and will change again this coming year, so honestly, OP and others would be taking big chances relying on what happened in the past with this. What year did you move to DC and apply with an out of state addy?

[Anonymous]

Here's some ACTUAL info on non-resident enrollment in DC charters.

http://www.dcpcsb.org/Enrolling-Your-Child/Enrollment-and-Lottery-Guidelines.aspx

http://www.dcpcsb.org/Enrolling-Your-Child/FY2013-Uniform-Per-Student-Funding-Formula.aspx

There. Can we now stick to actual information as opposed to everyone just slinging their rabid, frothing opinions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's some ACTUAL info on non-resident enrollment in DC charters.

http://www.dcpcsb.org/Enrolling-Your-Child/Enrollment-and-Lottery-Guidelines.aspx

http://www.dcpcsb.org/Enrolling-Your-Child/FY2013-Uniform-Per-Student-Funding-Formula.aspx

There. Can we now stick to actual information as opposed to everyone just slinging their rabid, frothing opinions?

Right at the top of the first link, the parameters are set: "According to the School Reform Act (Sec 38-1802.06), enrollment in public charter schools is open to all students who are residents of the District of Columbia, and if space is available, to non-resident students who pay tuition at the rate established by the State Education Agency. "

[Anonymous]

I have a good friend who lives in VA who was considering moving to DC. They spoke with people at a series of charters and asked - what should do with their appliaction.

The common response was to put their current address so that if they won, they could easily get in touch. That they would be required to provide proof of residency by a specific date.

It sounds like you are in a similar situation. You are the exception - but it is not so unusual that the schools have never heard about these situations before. For example, there are always people who leave to do an overseas assignment and come back a few years later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We had no problem entering the lottery with an out of state address. I did the applications then called each school to explain we were moving in to DC. In fact we got a spot at a coveted charter in the lottery but didn't actually move to DC until August. When we were notified I simply called the school and told them our situation- they were fine with it. When we came house hunting in June we went by the school and introduced myself. They were completely pleasant and said we will see you when school starts. When we had the address (about a week before school started) I completely forgot to tell the school. First day of school my child had name tag, on class roll, etc. I went and filled out my paperwork with our new address and we were done. Easy.

I think there is a perceived difference between someone coming from so far away that they are clearly moving to DC for the school year because commuting would be impossible, vs. someone who could say they're moving and then stay in MD and commute.

But more importantly, what year did you apply with your out of state addy PP? Things have changed in just the last year and will change again this coming year, so honestly, OP and others would be taking big chances relying on what happened in the past with this. What year did you move to DC and apply with an out of state addy?

Last year for the 2012/2013 school year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We had no problem entering the lottery with an out of state address. I did the applications then called each school to explain we were moving in to DC. In fact we got a spot at a coveted charter in the lottery but didn't actually move to DC until August. When we were notified I simply called the school and told them our situation- they were fine with it. When we came house hunting in June we went by the school and introduced myself. They were completely pleasant and said we will see you when school starts. When we had the address (about a week before school started) I completely forgot to tell the school. First day of school my child had name tag, on class roll, etc. I went and filled out my paperwork with our new address and we were done. Easy.

I think there is a perceived difference between someone coming from so far away that they are clearly moving to DC for the school year because commuting would be impossible, vs. someone who could say they're moving and then stay in MD and commute.

But more importantly, what year did you apply with your out of state addy PP? Things have changed in just the last year and will change again this coming year, so honestly, OP and others would be taking big chances relying on what happened in the past with this. What year did you move to DC and apply with an out of state addy?

Last year for the 2012/2013 school year.

Well, by now OP should know what she wants to do. I wish all the folks who are moving to DC no matter what (and by enrollment), and all the current DC residents the best of luck in the DCPS and PCSB DC lotteries. Everyone else... karma will sort you all out.