How would your Church respond?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m Catholic and they would absolutely not help.

If the called Catholic Charities (not a church for those who don’t know) they would have helped.

I do not think every church should have the funds or have the food but they should 150% be educated on the resources in their area.

The fact that they couldn’t even help with a local resource is insane.

I think it’s awesome she did this do people can reevaluate what it means to be a tax free church,

It makes me sick to see the council of bishops back pedal on their support for Trump and his inhumane treatment of people. It’s too little too late, you knew what you were doing… repent,

Asserts facts not in evidence. Most were trying to help with referrals, and she cut them off and complained that they were turning her away

No actually. I listened to the video you posted asserting this lie. Anyone can listen to the audio and see she did not hang up in the midst of getting help one actually hung up on her.

My friend’s h died so she called our church to plan the funeral and they refused because he (who was in a nursing home) had not attending that church for 5 years. So I’m not asserting facts either no evidence.

So many stories of bad Catholic acts.

The hoaxster did not wait to listen to resource referrals. She had an agenda, clearly, since she had. No. Baby. And with her personality, she never will.

I’ll bet a case of formula your friends dad hadn’t seen the inside of that church in well over a decade. Why would your friend call the, and nit a funeral parlor?

Yes, she did want to hear about it. What she is doing is she is exposing fraud. It wasn’t a hoax. It was a social experiment and she showed each person at the end exactly what she was doing.

Fraud? Do these churches advertise free formula on demand, on the first telephone call?

Yes they actually do advertise that they would do what Jesus did and that is feed the poor, house the homeless, live thy neighbor.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there’s something biblical about being angry when someone highlights hypocrisy rather than being mad at the hypocrisy.

Where is the hypocrisy?

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Anonymous wrote:The Methodist church my kid attended preschool at did a food bank distribution every Friday, so they'd definitely help.

I think that one of the challenges is that an infant needing formula isn't a problem that can wait until Friday. In the link I posted above, the first thing the person said was "we have a food pantry, but they aren't open till Sunday . . . " because the person clearly realized that wasn't soon enough. Even if it was Saturday afternoon, a food pantry open on Sunday isn't the immediate solution.

Wouldn't an actual person with an actual baby know they were running low and call before it all ran out?

If I was an actual person with an actual baby, I would start early. But I also wouldn't start with calling churches I wasn't connected to. I can imagine that it might take me some time to get to that solution, and it might be one of my last ditch attempts.

You don’t understand middle America clearly.

Sure in moco or n.va. There are resources but in bum f nowhere churches are those resources.

They don’t even have hospitals, ffs.

Get out of your privileged bubble,

I don't think you understand what I am saying. I am saying that if I was a young mom with a baby that I was worried about feeding, I would first try my own church if I had one, and other options. I'd go to the food pantry to see if they had formula. I'd try to get WIC. If I had older kids, I'd ask the social worker at my older kids' school if I had one. I'd put word out that I would do odd jobs like babysitting for cash, and see if any of my friends had formula to spare. I'd probably do all those things before I'd call a church I'm not connected to.

Which means that I might be 100% out when I called churches. I'm explaining why I think a mom calling when she doesn't have any left is believable.

Yes, calling earlier is also believable. But me recognizing how someone might get in the position of calling at the last minute isn't a sign I'm privileged.

I know for a fact, that capital YOU, do not understand that in small towns there is no food pantry, lol you think schools in the middle of nowhere have social workers, WIC and SNAP benefits were just cut by a psychopath, in a small town, your friends might be just as poor as you, your local church might be 35 miles away, you probably don’t own a car, you’re not gonna do odd jobs with a two month old baby, this person could actually have had a job that was illegally cut by DOGE, or they’ve been furlough, you think somebody in middle America, where there is one gas station has a ton of odd jobs…,


Smfh

I am so confused by your response. Someone said that anyone with an actual baby would call in enough time that "Our food pantry is open on Sunday" would be an acceptable solution, and that someone calling as they run out would be suspect.

I said that people who call at the last minute would not be suspect, because for all they know they started trying earlier, and just failed at their early attempts. I gave examples of other things they might have tried, including calling other churches. Other people pointed out that she might have the formula with the botulism that got recalled, or that she might have accidentally spilled her formula or had it stolen. So, none of us are judging a hypothetical mother who calls at the last minute, or saying that a mother in an urgent last minute situation is the problem. I also said that there would be situations where someone might call a church first, perhaps while they still had formula to tide them over a few days. So, I didn't judge people who live in rural communities where they would call a church first either.

Twice now, you've yelled at me saying that the solutions I offer might not work, when I literally gave them as examples of things she might have tried and failed. You seem to be disagreeing with my argument that she shouldn't be judged (well, the Tik Tokker might be judgeable, but the imaginary woman she was pretending to be). Are you saying that my NOT judging a woman is a sign that I'm "privileged"? That judging her would be a sign of privilege?

I was the person who originally said " Wouldn't an actual person with an actual baby know they were running low and call before it all ran out?" (I'm not the person who has been responding with cuckoo posts). Your response is fair, you and another PP came up with some scenarios I hadn't considered. I guess for me it's more the whole thing seems so unreasonable, where she is calling a church (not a food pantry) and then making it seem like they did something wrong when they say "oh, the pantry is open Monday, but uh.... (trying to think of other solutions)" and calling that rejection. The majority of churches were trying to help her, which may entail telling her what resources they know, and then taking her information and getting back to her with something to help her sooner. While you point out good reasons why a real mom might be at her last resort, I think real mom would also be grateful that they are trying to think of options and taking her number.

It's actually not a bad "fire drill" sort of simulation/social experiment that could identify gaps, if it were done in good faith, but this is just someone attention seeking with an agenda.

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Anonymous wrote:Np. I volunteer in small Appalachian towns every summer. They definitely have food pantries, WIC, and SNAP (honestly, how could you think they wouldn’t have the latter??). Tons of social services for kids and elderly and home bound. In some ways, that’s part of the problem, but I digress.

You Volunteer in one town and now you know every small town in Kentucky, which is where she was has a food pantry?

You know SNAP benefits were cut that week by the federal psychopath.

Do you know how many weeks it takes to get your WIC benefits after you apply? Anyone, anyone, anyone … buehler ?

Do you know how much money you get with WIC? $26 /mtg for an infant

It’s in a lot more than one town, but one is all it would take to disprove your false and baseless assertion that social services do not exist in disadvantage small towns. That was simply not true. And I proved it.

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Anonymous wrote:Np. I volunteer in small Appalachian towns every summer. They definitely have food pantries, WIC, and SNAP (honestly, how could you think they wouldn’t have the latter??). Tons of social services for kids and elderly and home bound. In some ways, that’s part of the problem, but I digress.

You Volunteer in one town and now you know every small town in Kentucky, which is where she was has a food pantry?

You know SNAP benefits were cut that week by the federal psychopath.

Do you know how many weeks it takes to get your WIC benefits after you apply? Anyone, anyone, anyone … buehler ?

Do you know how much money you get with WIC? $26 /mtg for an infant

The $26 is the amount of fruits and vegetables a 1 - 4 year old child gets. They also get other foods. That number is just for fruit and vegetable.

A 2 month who is full formula fed is eligible for 806 oz worth of powdered formula, which is about 6 of the large cans. For milk based formula that's about $210.

Losing WIC becaue of a shut down, or having access to WIC delayed due to bureaucracy puts a major dent in parents' ability to provide food for their infant.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there’s something biblical about being angry when someone highlights hypocrisy rather than being mad at the hypocrisy.

It's only hypocrisy if they weren't trying to help her. They were trying to help her they just didn't all have formula immediately available.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t the fact that this woman herself was lying and running a scam of sorts proof that churches are correct in not just immediately handing over money or resources?

Boo hoo churches were exposed for the fraud that they are. No way to spin this one.

When someone on the street approaches you for money do you hand it over? Church money comes from parishioners and I would not want the money I donate given to a TikTok scammer.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m Catholic and they would absolutely not help.

If the called Catholic Charities (not a church for those who don’t know) they would have helped.

I do not think every church should have the funds or have the food but they should 150% be educated on the resources in their area.

The fact that they couldn’t even help with a local resource is insane.

I think it’s awesome she did this do people can reevaluate what it means to be a tax free church,

It makes me sick to see the council of bishops back pedal on their support for Trump and his inhumane treatment of people. It’s too little too late, you knew what you were doing… repent,

Asserts facts not in evidence. Most were trying to help with referrals, and she cut them off and complained that they were turning her away

No actually. I listened to the video you posted asserting this lie. Anyone can listen to the audio and see she did not hang up in the midst of getting help one actually hung up on her.

My friend’s h died so she called our church to plan the funeral and they refused because he (who was in a nursing home) had not attending that church for 5 years. So I’m not asserting facts either no evidence.

So many stories of bad Catholic acts.

The hoaxster did not wait to listen to resource referrals. She had an agenda, clearly, since she had. No. Baby. And with her personality, she never will.

I’ll bet a case of formula your friends dad hadn’t seen the inside of that church in well over a decade. Why would your friend call the, and nit a funeral parlor?

Yes, she did want to hear about it. What she is doing is she is exposing fraud. It wasn’t a hoax. It was a social experiment and she showed each person at the end exactly what she was doing.

Fraud? Do these churches advertise free formula on demand, on the first telephone call?

Yes they actually do advertise that they would do what Jesus did and that is feed the poor, house the homeless, live thy neighbor.

Feeding the poor does not mean stocking cases of infant formula at the front door to give away to the first person who demands it on the phone because she’s running a Tik Tok prank.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m Catholic and they would absolutely not help.

If the called Catholic Charities (not a church for those who don’t know) they would have helped.

I do not think every church should have the funds or have the food but they should 150% be educated on the resources in their area.

The fact that they couldn’t even help with a local resource is insane.

I think it’s awesome she did this do people can reevaluate what it means to be a tax free church,

It makes me sick to see the council of bishops back pedal on their support for Trump and his inhumane treatment of people. It’s too little too late, you knew what you were doing… repent,

Asserts facts not in evidence. Most were trying to help with referrals, and she cut them off and complained that they were turning her away

No actually. I listened to the video you posted asserting this lie. Anyone can listen to the audio and see she did not hang up in the midst of getting help one actually hung up on her.

My friend’s h died so she called our church to plan the funeral and they refused because he (who was in a nursing home) had not attending that church for 5 years. So I’m not asserting facts either no evidence.

So many stories of bad Catholic acts.

The hoaxster did not wait to listen to resource referrals. She had an agenda, clearly, since she had. No. Baby. And with her personality, she never will.

I’ll bet a case of formula your friends dad hadn’t seen the inside of that church in well over a decade. Why would your friend call the, and nit a funeral parlor?

Yes, she did want to hear about it. What she is doing is she is exposing fraud. It wasn’t a hoax. It was a social experiment and she showed each person at the end exactly what she was doing.

Fraud? Do these churches advertise free formula on demand, on the first telephone call?

Yes they actually do advertise that they would do what Jesus did and that is feed the poor, house the homeless, live thy neighbor.

Feeding the poor does not mean stocking cases of infant formula at the front door to give away to the first person who demands it on the phone because she’s running a Tik Tok prank.

I think a Christlike example is much more obvious in the pastor who says, I will help you than in people making excuses for why taking her number is enough.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think there’s something biblical about being angry when someone highlights hypocrisy rather than being mad at the hypocrisy.

It's only hypocrisy if they weren't trying to help her. They were trying to help her they just didn't all have formula immediately available.

What about the ones who just said no?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m Catholic and they would absolutely not help.

If the called Catholic Charities (not a church for those who don’t know) they would have helped.

I do not think every church should have the funds or have the food but they should 150% be educated on the resources in their area.

The fact that they couldn’t even help with a local resource is insane.

I think it’s awesome she did this do people can reevaluate what it means to be a tax free church,

It makes me sick to see the council of bishops back pedal on their support for Trump and his inhumane treatment of people. It’s too little too late, you knew what you were doing… repent,

Asserts facts not in evidence. Most were trying to help with referrals, and she cut them off and complained that they were turning her away

No actually. I listened to the video you posted asserting this lie. Anyone can listen to the audio and see she did not hang up in the midst of getting help one actually hung up on her.

My friend’s h died so she called our church to plan the funeral and they refused because he (who was in a nursing home) had not attending that church for 5 years. So I’m not asserting facts either no evidence.

So many stories of bad Catholic acts.

The hoaxster did not wait to listen to resource referrals. She had an agenda, clearly, since she had. No. Baby. And with her personality, she never will.

I’ll bet a case of formula your friends dad hadn’t seen the inside of that church in well over a decade. Why would your friend call the, and nit a funeral parlor?

Yes, she did want to hear about it. What she is doing is she is exposing fraud. It wasn’t a hoax. It was a social experiment and she showed each person at the end exactly what she was doing.

Fraud? Do these churches advertise free formula on demand, on the first telephone call?

Yes they actually do advertise that they would do what Jesus did and that is feed the poor, house the homeless, live thy neighbor.

Feeding the poor does not mean stocking cases of infant formula at the front door to give away to the first person who demands it on the phone because she’s running a Tik Tok prank.

I think a Christlike example is much more obvious in the pastor who says, I will help you than in people making excuses for why taking her number is enough.

Nobody asserted that taking her number was “enough.” It was just the first step. The liar decided that this was unacceptable, because that’s not how she could go viral.

It’s sad you fell for her scam.

😢

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Anonymous wrote:I’m Catholic and they would absolutely not help.

If the called Catholic Charities (not a church for those who don’t know) they would have helped.

I do not think every church should have the funds or have the food but they should 150% be educated on the resources in their area.

The fact that they couldn’t even help with a local resource is insane.

I think it’s awesome she did this do people can reevaluate what it means to be a tax free church,

It makes me sick to see the council of bishops back pedal on their support for Trump and his inhumane treatment of people. It’s too little too late, you knew what you were doing… repent,

Asserts facts not in evidence. Most were trying to help with referrals, and she cut them off and complained that they were turning her away

No actually. I listened to the video you posted asserting this lie. Anyone can listen to the audio and see she did not hang up in the midst of getting help one actually hung up on her.

My friend’s h died so she called our church to plan the funeral and they refused because he (who was in a nursing home) had not attending that church for 5 years. So I’m not asserting facts either no evidence.

So many stories of bad Catholic acts.

The hoaxster did not wait to listen to resource referrals. She had an agenda, clearly, since she had. No. Baby. And with her personality, she never will.

I’ll bet a case of formula your friends dad hadn’t seen the inside of that church in well over a decade. Why would your friend call the, and nit a funeral parlor?

Yes, she did want to hear about it. What she is doing is she is exposing fraud. It wasn’t a hoax. It was a social experiment and she showed each person at the end exactly what she was doing.

Fraud? Do these churches advertise free formula on demand, on the first telephone call?

Yes they actually do advertise that they would do what Jesus did and that is feed the poor, house the homeless, live thy neighbor.

Feeding the poor does not mean stocking cases of infant formula at the front door to give away to the first person who demands it on the phone because she’s running a Tik Tok prank.

I think a Christlike example is much more obvious in the pastor who says, I will help you than in people making excuses for why taking her number is enough.

Nobody asserted that taking her number was “enough.” It was just the first step. The liar decided that this was unacceptable, because that’s not how she could go viral.

It’s sad you fell for her scam.

😢

I think it’s more happy thats there is a beautiful example of pastoral care and true Christian charity in the pastor who said, I will help you. We could celebrate him if we weren’t so busy demonizing her….

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Np. I volunteer in small Appalachian towns every summer. They definitely have food pantries, WIC, and SNAP (honestly, how could you think they wouldn’t have the latter??). Tons of social services for kids and elderly and home bound. In some ways, that’s part of the problem, but I digress.

You Volunteer in one town and now you know every small town in Kentucky, which is where she was has a food pantry?

You know SNAP benefits were cut that week by the federal psychopath.

Do you know how many weeks it takes to get your WIC benefits after you apply? Anyone, anyone, anyone … buehler ?

Do you know how much money you get with WIC? $26 /mtg for an infant

It’s in a lot more than one town, but one is all it would take to disprove your false and baseless assertion that social services do not exist in disadvantage small towns. That was simply not true. And I proved it.

You didn’t prove that the towns she called had those services.

You also proved that they don’t have enough help because you have to drive all the way there to help them.

They’re literally no units with doctors going through the United States because people don’t see doctors for years at a time because there aren’t none.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m Catholic and they would absolutely not help.

If the called Catholic Charities (not a church for those who don’t know) they would have helped.

I do not think every church should have the funds or have the food but they should 150% be educated on the resources in their area.

The fact that they couldn’t even help with a local resource is insane.

I think it’s awesome she did this do people can reevaluate what it means to be a tax free church,

It makes me sick to see the council of bishops back pedal on their support for Trump and his inhumane treatment of people. It’s too little too late, you knew what you were doing… repent,

Asserts facts not in evidence. Most were trying to help with referrals, and she cut them off and complained that they were turning her away

No actually. I listened to the video you posted asserting this lie. Anyone can listen to the audio and see she did not hang up in the midst of getting help one actually hung up on her.

My friend’s h died so she called our church to plan the funeral and they refused because he (who was in a nursing home) had not attending that church for 5 years. So I’m not asserting facts either no evidence.

So many stories of bad Catholic acts.

The hoaxster did not wait to listen to resource referrals. She had an agenda, clearly, since she had. No. Baby. And with her personality, she never will.

I’ll bet a case of formula your friends dad hadn’t seen the inside of that church in well over a decade. Why would your friend call the, and nit a funeral parlor?

Yes, she did want to hear about it. What she is doing is she is exposing fraud. It wasn’t a hoax. It was a social experiment and she showed each person at the end exactly what she was doing.

Fraud? Do these churches advertise free formula on demand, on the first telephone call?

Yes they actually do advertise that they would do what Jesus did and that is feed the poor, house the homeless, live thy neighbor.

Feeding the poor does not mean stocking cases of infant formula at the front door to give away to the first person who demands it on the phone because she’s running a Tik Tok prank.

I think a Christlike example is much more obvious in the pastor who says, I will help you than in people making excuses for why taking her number is enough.

Nobody asserted that taking her number was “enough.” It was just the first step. The liar decided that this was unacceptable, because that’s not how she could go viral.

It’s sad you fell for her scam.

😢

You’re so deeply indoctrinated you can’t even say that you’re being scammed every Sunday.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m Catholic and they would absolutely not help.

If the called Catholic Charities (not a church for those who don’t know) they would have helped.

I do not think every church should have the funds or have the food but they should 150% be educated on the resources in their area.

The fact that they couldn’t even help with a local resource is insane.

I think it’s awesome she did this do people can reevaluate what it means to be a tax free church,

It makes me sick to see the council of bishops back pedal on their support for Trump and his inhumane treatment of people. It’s too little too late, you knew what you were doing… repent,

Asserts facts not in evidence. Most were trying to help with referrals, and she cut them off and complained that they were turning her away

No actually. I listened to the video you posted asserting this lie. Anyone can listen to the audio and see she did not hang up in the midst of getting help one actually hung up on her.

My friend’s h died so she called our church to plan the funeral and they refused because he (who was in a nursing home) had not attending that church for 5 years. So I’m not asserting facts either no evidence.

So many stories of bad Catholic acts.

The hoaxster did not wait to listen to resource referrals. She had an agenda, clearly, since she had. No. Baby. And with her personality, she never will.

I’ll bet a case of formula your friends dad hadn’t seen the inside of that church in well over a decade. Why would your friend call the, and nit a funeral parlor?

Yes, she did want to hear about it. What she is doing is she is exposing fraud. It wasn’t a hoax. It was a social experiment and she showed each person at the end exactly what she was doing.

Fraud? Do these churches advertise free formula on demand, on the first telephone call?

Yes they actually do advertise that they would do what Jesus did and that is feed the poor, house the homeless, live thy neighbor.

Feeding the poor does not mean stocking cases of infant formula at the front door to give away to the first person who demands it on the phone because she’s running a Tik Tok prank.

I think a Christlike example is much more obvious in the pastor who says, I will help you than in people making excuses for why taking her number is enough.

Nobody asserted that taking her number was “enough.” It was just the first step. The liar decided that this was unacceptable, because that’s not how she could go viral.

It’s sad you fell for her scam.

😢

You’re so deeply indoctrinated you can’t even say that you’re being scammed every Sunday.

+1 and the pastor probably believes in the scam too