November Govt. Shutdown - Updates

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Another issue is that many Feds have saved up 2 weeks to be off over the school holiday. It’s usually the best time for me to take off since contractors and private companies give their employees these weeks off anyways. So if the shutdown goes longer but opens in December, Feds are going to have to take off. I mean what am I supposed to do? Enroll my kids in camps with the zero dollars I’m being paid?

I’m going to come back to a mountain of work when I return (public hasn’t stopped putting in work for me while I’m out). I have nooooo idea how I will be able to get through it or process things efficiently unless they hire some people for me. Such a mess.

Contractor family. Never have been given two weeks off. You’ll be paid at some point. Contractors don’t get paid except when contracts are pre funded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Serious question - at some point would union sue for lack of pay? Seems not possible/constitutional to not pay people indefinitely while also forcing them to work under threat of being fired. We don’t have indentured servitude.

Doubt it but its so unfair. Feds should also get paid their pay with interest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like there is going to be a deal - moderate dems will vote to reopen in exchange for promise to vote on ACA subsidies.

This makes zero sense to me. Johnson has said he won’t agree to the house voting on this, so the whole shutdown will be for nothing.

That’s what confuses me. The Senate can say that they’ve done their part and it gets kicked back to the House for what, exactly? Or are they voting on the “clean” bill sent over?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another issue is that many Feds have saved up 2 weeks to be off over the school holiday. It’s usually the best time for me to take off since contractors and private companies give their employees these weeks off anyways. So if the shutdown goes longer but opens in December, Feds are going to have to take off. I mean what am I supposed to do? Enroll my kids in camps with the zero dollars I’m being paid?

I’m going to come back to a mountain of work when I return (public hasn’t stopped putting in work for me while I’m out). I have nooooo idea how I will be able to get through it or process things efficiently unless they hire some people for me. Such a mess.

Contractor family. Never have been given two weeks off. You’ll be paid at some point. Contractors don’t get paid except when contracts are pre funded.

A lot of feds are married to contractors (including me) and we are sympathetic. But there's a lot of variation in contractor jobs: some are funded now, some are paying people out of overhead to keep them, some have laid off. Some contractors do give 2 weeks at Christmas. It's a competitive private market, there are all different kinds of perks amd incentives in use.

In the 2018 Trump shutdown, my DH's employer paid staff to work on proposals or admin tasks so that nobody had to be unpaid. DH was able to recruit some great people from contractors who didn't bother to take care of staff that way. I realize the job market is really bad right now but it's worth asking around to figure out who is taking care of their employees so you can target those employers later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like there is going to be a deal - moderate dems will vote to reopen in exchange for promise to vote on ACA subsidies.

This makes zero sense to me. Johnson has said he won’t agree to the house voting on this, so the whole shutdown will be for nothing.

That’s what confuses me. The Senate can say that they’ve done their part and it gets kicked back to the House for what, exactly? Or are they voting on the “clean” bill sent over?

It looks like they are voting on the clean bill but with an extension beyond the current 11/21 date and also with what they are calling the “minibus” attached, basically appropriations for certain agencies (if I were a betting woman I’d bet on DoD as one). And a “promise” to vote on ACA subsidies at a future TBD time that Johnson has publicly said he won’t raise in the House (the ACA thing, not the CR + minibus). Regardless, the House has to come back and pass this version if the Senate passes it.

[Anonymous]

I’m also going to add, good luck with getting the House back in town in 48 hours. Airports are shitshows.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looks like there is going to be a deal - moderate dems will vote to reopen in exchange for promise to vote on ACA subsidies.

Source? Republicans keep saying this (to keep up the pressure? to shift blame? etc.) but I wouldn’t take any reporting relying on GOP sources to mean anything. There was going to be a deal last week then there wasn’t. We’ll see.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like there is going to be a deal - moderate dems will vote to reopen in exchange for promise to vote on ACA subsidies.

Source? Republicans keep saying this (to keep up the pressure? to shift blame? etc.) but I wouldn’t take any reporting relying on GOP sources to mean anything. There was going to be a deal last week then there wasn’t. We’ll see.

Yes it seems that Thune keeps saying this in order to slam the dems when it doesn’t go through. Hard to keep tell what’s actually happening.

[Anonymous]

Is the house scheduled to return tomorrow and will they be voting?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m also going to add, good luck with getting the House back in town in 48 hours. Airports are shitshows.

On for gods sake the House is not coming back

How is this a hard concept?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like there is going to be a deal - moderate dems will vote to reopen in exchange for promise to vote on ACA subsidies.

Source? Republicans keep saying this (to keep up the pressure? to shift blame? etc.) but I wouldn’t take any reporting relying on GOP sources to mean anything. There was going to be a deal last week then there wasn’t. We’ll see.

Yes it seems that Thune keeps saying this in order to slam the dems when it doesn’t go through. Hard to keep tell what’s actually happening.

No Republicans lie all day every day it is not clean!

And the house isn’t opening

[Anonymous]

It's a House District work period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's a House District work period.

It was supposed to be a Senate recess all week too, yet they are still in session.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Another issue is that many Feds have saved up 2 weeks to be off over the school holiday. It’s usually the best time for me to take off since contractors and private companies give their employees these weeks off anyways. So if the shutdown goes longer but opens in December, Feds are going to have to take off. I mean what am I supposed to do? Enroll my kids in camps with the zero dollars I’m being paid?

I’m going to come back to a mountain of work when I return (public hasn’t stopped putting in work for me while I’m out). I have nooooo idea how I will be able to get through it or process things efficiently unless they hire some people for me. Such a mess.

What? Russ Vought doesn't want feds to do any work. Just take your vacation and don't do any of it. The work will still be there when you return.

[Anonymous]

It’s not a clean cut
House isn’t coming back until Jan if then which I doubt

Special elections in Tenn and Texas they will lose the house he’s not opening