Any feedback on Macarthur?

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Anonymous wrote:I continue to object to the fact that MacArthur is such a limited school with far fewer opportunities than Jackson Reed. When DC opens new schools, they should be full-service schools. Your ability to take a high level class, be on a sports team, or star in a play should not depend on your street address. My neighborhood was redistricted into MacArthur, and now neighbors move heaven and earth to avoid sending kids there, mostly applying to Walls or mortgaging themselves for private school. MacArthur simply does not have the same resources, and it never will.

Which neighborhood?

It’s insane to me that anyone would send to JR over MacArthur. So huge, over crowded, unmanageable, in a worse neighborhood…

What JR is not is that it’s not title 1 with abysmal scores, not crazy commute, limited course offerings, sports, and EC.

JR also has a good cohort of high performing kids.

It’s a no brainer which school has better peers and offerrings.

We are a Hardy family that is so relieved at the opening of MacArthur. We would never have sent our kid to JR. Just like we would have never sent them to Deal. Those schools are so huge and the fact that they are right next to each other causes chaos in Tenleytown both before and after school. No thank you. Yes, MacArthur is still adding programming - it’s only in its 3rd year! - but it is indeed adding things and is on track to be one of the best schools in the city, comparable to Walls and Banneker without actually having admission barriers. It’s a no brainer to choose MacArthur over JR.

LOL! Wishful thinking. Sorry but no way with those terrible stats.

MA offered over 200 OOB seats in the lottery and blew thru their waitlist. It’s not like families with high performers are waiting in line to get into the school.

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We are zoned for MacArthur and have some friends there with kids who are happy - my question is- do we know if they have plans to develop a theatre program there? Hardy has a great drama/musical theater program and would love to see that continued at the high school level. Also, how are the sports going there this year?

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Comparable to Walls or Banneker? It’s just going to be smaller Jackson-Reed. How could that not be the case?

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Anonymous wrote:I continue to object to the fact that MacArthur is such a limited school with far fewer opportunities than Jackson Reed. When DC opens new schools, they should be full-service schools. Your ability to take a high level class, be on a sports team, or star in a play should not depend on your street address. My neighborhood was redistricted into MacArthur, and now neighbors move heaven and earth to avoid sending kids there, mostly applying to Walls or mortgaging themselves for private school. MacArthur simply does not have the same resources, and it never will.

Which neighborhood?

It’s insane to me that anyone would send to JR over MacArthur. So huge, over crowded, unmanageable, in a worse neighborhood…

What JR is not is that it’s not title 1 with abysmal scores, not crazy commute, limited course offerings, sports, and EC.

JR also has a good cohort of high performing kids.

It’s a no brainer which school has better peers and offerrings.

We are a Hardy family that is so relieved at the opening of MacArthur. We would never have sent our kid to JR. Just like we would have never sent them to Deal. Those schools are so huge and the fact that they are right next to each other causes chaos in Tenleytown both before and after school. No thank you. Yes, MacArthur is still adding programming - it’s only in its 3rd year! - but it is indeed adding things and is on track to be one of the best schools in the city, comparable to Walls and Banneker without actually having admission barriers. It’s a no brainer to choose MacArthur over JR.

LOL! Wishful thinking. Sorry but no way with those terrible stats.

MA offered over 200 OOB seats in the lottery and blew thru their waitlist. It’s not like families with high performers are waiting in line to get into the school.

It’s not wishful thinking at all. Yes, the school is attracting motivated OOB students in upper grades as it gets started, but with the new exclusive Hardy feed status, those numbers are changing. You can naysay all you want, but it is neither accurate nor helpful for families considering MacArthur.

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Anonymous wrote:Comparable to Walls or Banneker? It’s just going to be smaller Jackson-Reed. How could that not be the case?

Precisely because it is smaller. It is pulling from a very similar student pool with the advantage of the better student:teacher ratio to ensure student success. Also the school is attracting better talent for teachers than JR which is also a factor

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Anonymous wrote:Comparable to Walls or Banneker? It’s just going to be smaller Jackson-Reed. How could that not be the case?

Precisely because it is smaller. It is pulling from a very similar student pool with the advantage of the better student:teacher ratio to ensure student success. Also the school is attracting better talent for teachers than JR which is also a factor

Above is not correct. It is not a similar student pool at Deal and Hardy. Deal is the school contributing the overwhelming majority of high performers to JR in the past, not Hardy.

It might be similar SES in both Deal and Hardy boundaries but it is not similar cohorts.

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Anonymous wrote:Comparable to Walls or Banneker? It’s just going to be smaller Jackson-Reed. How could that not be the case?

Precisely because it is smaller. It is pulling from a very similar student pool with the advantage of the better student:teacher ratio to ensure student success. Also the school is attracting better talent for teachers than JR which is also a factor

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Above is not correct. It is not a similar student pool at Deal and Hardy. Deal is the school contributing the overwhelming majority of high performers to JR in the past, not Hardy.

It might be similar SES in both Deal and Hardy boundaries but it is not similar cohorts.

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Anonymous wrote:Comparable to Walls or Banneker? It’s just going to be smaller Jackson-Reed. How could that not be the case?

Precisely because it is smaller. It is pulling from a very similar student pool with the advantage of the better student:teacher ratio to ensure student success. Also the school is attracting better talent for teachers than JR which is also a factor

Above is not correct. It is not a similar student pool at Deal and Hardy. Deal is the school contributing the overwhelming majority of high performers to JR in the past, not Hardy.

It might be similar SES in both Deal and Hardy boundaries but it is not similar cohorts.

Comically outdated information.

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It is mostly a numbers issue. Deal is a lot larger than Hardy.

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Anonymous wrote:It is mostly a numbers issue. Deal is a lot larger than Hardy.

Nope, not just numbers but also percentages. Deal much higher esp in math.

Even if 1/2 Hardy kids go to MA, most will not be high performers and small numbers that it won’t make a dent in the stats.

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Anonymous wrote:It is mostly a numbers issue. Deal is a lot larger than Hardy.

Nope, not just numbers but also percentages. Deal much higher esp in math.

Even if 1/2 Hardy kids go to MA, most will not be high performers and small numbers that it won’t make a dent in the stats.

You’re just wrong. Over half of Hardy students chose MacArthur this year. I’m sorry that your doomsday predictions won’t come true. Perhaps you will need to find a new hobby

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Anonymous wrote:It is mostly a numbers issue. Deal is a lot larger than Hardy.

Nope, not just numbers but also percentages. Deal much higher esp in math.

Even if 1/2 Hardy kids go to MA, most will not be high performers and small numbers that it won’t make a dent in the stats.

You’re just wrong. Over half of Hardy students chose MacArthur this year. I’m sorry that your doomsday predictions won’t come true. Perhaps you will need to find a new hobby

You obviously are full of BS and don’t know the data. I in contrast have looked at the data. Data doesn’t lie.

High performing kids above grade level.

Hardy 180 8th graders. If 90 went to MA
ELA 22% = 20 kids
Math 5% = 5 kids

Number above won’t make a dent in a school with over 600 kids or however many currently.

Deal 480 8th graders
ELA 41% = 197 kids
Math 19% = 91 kids

It has always been Deal that had significantly higher numbers and percentages of high performers and contributed the bulk of these cohort of kids to JR, not Hardy.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is mostly a numbers issue. Deal is a lot larger than Hardy.

Nope, not just numbers but also percentages. Deal much higher esp in math.

Even if 1/2 Hardy kids go to MA, most will not be high performers and small numbers that it won’t make a dent in the stats.

You’re just wrong. Over half of Hardy students chose MacArthur this year. I’m sorry that your doomsday predictions won’t come true. Perhaps you will need to find a new hobby

You obviously are full of BS and don’t know the data. I in contrast have looked at the data. Data doesn’t lie.

High performing kids above grade level.

Hardy 180 8th graders. If 90 went to MA
ELA 22% = 20 kids
Math 5% = 5 kids

Number above won’t make a dent in a school with over 600 kids or however many currently.

Deal 480 8th graders
ELA 41% = 197 kids
Math 19% = 91 kids

It has always been Deal that had significantly higher numbers and percentages of high performers and contributed the bulk of these cohort of kids to JR, not Hardy.

Your numbers are wrong.

For Hardy, 5s are 35% and 11%. So, correcting...
If 90 went to MA
ELA 35% = 32 kids
Math 11% = 10 kids

-- You are assuming all Deal 9th graders go to J-R? Wut?

-- You fail to count the non-Hardy high-scoring students going to Macarthur that are not from Hardy. Surely there are a few.

-- Future 9th graders at Macarthur don't need to 'make a dent' in the full 600 students at the school. The makeup of the current Sr and Jr classes is pretty irrelevant to them. What matters for them is the 200 students in their grade, with some impact from the grade ahead and behind.

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I truly do not understand the people trashing MacArthur here.

Are you neighborhood people trying to keep kids away? I promise you, your best shot at making this a school that is palatable to you is to make it so attractive to Hardy families that it becomes stacked in bound only families like JR.

Are you JR/Deal families that want to maintain the image of supremacy (while also complaining about overcrowding)?

The best case scenario for the whole city but especially any family that has an existing path into either JR or Mac is to lift up Mac so that it is comparable to JR. They will not be exactly the same. Macarthur Blvd won't turn into Tenley at any rapid pace, JR will have established sports programs (which is not all upsides when your kid doesn't make the team) while Mac builds theirs out, etc etc but they will be comparable in terms of what I do believe is a legitimate concern of people on this forum--that an upper middle class kid can be in a cohort of kids getting a decent education that prepares them for college and life.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is mostly a numbers issue. Deal is a lot larger than Hardy.

Nope, not just numbers but also percentages. Deal much higher esp in math.

Even if 1/2 Hardy kids go to MA, most will not be high performers and small numbers that it won’t make a dent in the stats.

You’re just wrong. Over half of Hardy students chose MacArthur this year. I’m sorry that your doomsday predictions won’t come true. Perhaps you will need to find a new hobby

You obviously are full of BS and don’t know the data. I in contrast have looked at the data. Data doesn’t lie.

High performing kids above grade level.

Hardy 180 8th graders. If 90 went to MA
ELA 22% = 20 kids
Math 5% = 5 kids

Number above won’t make a dent in a school with over 600 kids or however many currently.

Deal 480 8th graders
ELA 41% = 197 kids
Math 19% = 91 kids

It has always been Deal that had significantly higher numbers and percentages of high performers and contributed the bulk of these cohort of kids to JR, not Hardy.

Your numbers are wrong.

For Hardy, 5s are 35% and 11%. So, correcting...
If 90 went to MA
ELA 35% = 32 kids
Math 11% = 10 kids

-- You are assuming all Deal 9th graders go to J-R? Wut?

-- You fail to count the non-Hardy high-scoring students going to Macarthur that are not from Hardy. Surely there are a few.

-- Future 9th graders at Macarthur don't need to 'make a dent' in the full 600 students at the school. The makeup of the current Sr and Jr classes is pretty irrelevant to them. What matters for them is the 200 students in their grade, with some impact from the grade ahead and behind.

Not sure where you are getting your data but mine is from DC report card.

If yours is a legitimate source and more recent then you also know the numbers at Deal and MA which you have not shared.

No, not really any significant high scoring, above grade level kids at MA, 5% in ELA and <1% in math.