New work habits marks on MS/HS report cards

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What does “CO” stand for?

Work Habits CO Consistently demonstrates work habits necessary to maximize learning
Work Habits IN Inconsistently demonstrates work habits necessary to maximize learning
Work Habits SO Sometimes demonstrates work habits necessary to maximize learning

...is how they show up to teachers. But CO is great, IN is poor, and SO is moderate, yet they couldn't find a way to put them in that order in our gradebook so I'm guessing a bunch of teachers messed it up.

Wait, so IN is the worst? I assumed it was the middle. My boys have all As and all COs or INs, no SOs.

Do these show up on college transcripts? I assume and hope no.

IN is the worst, I would be concerned if my kid received an IN. It would be like a 1 or 2 in citizenship score in ES. It could be that the teachers were unclear on what they meant, which one teacher has already said, but inconsistently demonstrates does not give man indication that my kid is doing a good job paying attention in class.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t care what the work habits are - that is leftover babyish elementary crap. If my kid is getting As, he has good work habits period. We don’t need the extra feedback.

You couldn't be more wrong and naive if you tried

An A corresponds to good work habits period.

Yeah, no. An A can be had with haphazardly turning in homework and doing a decent job on quizzes and tests. A kid breezing through a class does not mean that they have good work habits. It could mean that they are in the wrong level of a class, maybe they should be in honors or AP/IB, but it doesn't automatically mean that they are making their best effort.

And your kid could be getting an A and then distracting other kids, which would be an issue.

[Anonymous]

The documents from the county listed the work habits scores as Consistently, Sometimes, and Inconsistently. In the drop-down menu teachers see in SIS the scores were listed in alphabetical order: Consistently, Inconsistently, Sometimes. So, if teachers weren’t sure whether “sometimes” or “inconsistently” was better, they may have defaulted to the order listed in SIS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The documents from the county listed the work habits scores as Consistently, Sometimes, and Inconsistently. In the drop-down menu teachers see in SIS the scores were listed in alphabetical order: Consistently, Inconsistently, Sometimes. So, if teachers weren’t sure whether “sometimes” or “inconsistently” was better, they may have defaulted to the order listed in SIS.

This. I am a teacher and the county gave very little in the way of communication about what the difference was. I just went by the default order of the list.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t care what the work habits are - that is leftover babyish elementary crap. If my kid is getting As, he has good work habits period. We don’t need the extra feedback.

You couldn't be more wrong and naive if you tried

An A corresponds to good work habits period.

Yeah, no. An A can be had with haphazardly turning in homework and doing a decent job on quizzes and tests. A kid breezing through a class does not mean that they have good work habits. It could mean that they are in the wrong level of a class, maybe they should be in honors or AP/IB, but it doesn't automatically mean that they are making their best effort.

And your kid could be getting an A and then distracting other kids, which would be an issue.

This is high school. A kid getting an A in an honors class or AP class is definitely going to get “CO” on work habits. Case in point - my kid got straight As and all COs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t care what the work habits are - that is leftover babyish elementary crap. If my kid is getting As, he has good work habits period. We don’t need the extra feedback.

You couldn't be more wrong and naive if you tried

An A corresponds to good work habits period.

Yeah, no. An A can be had with haphazardly turning in homework and doing a decent job on quizzes and tests. A kid breezing through a class does not mean that they have good work habits. It could mean that they are in the wrong level of a class, maybe they should be in honors or AP/IB, but it doesn't automatically mean that they are making their best effort.

And your kid could be getting an A and then distracting other kids, which would be an issue.

This is high school. A kid getting an A in an honors class or AP class is definitely going to get “CO” on work habits. Case in point - my kid got straight As and all COs.

There are kids getting in As without COs, they might be the outlier, but they are out there. And there are kids with B's that are not getting COs. I know because I know those kids and I hear their parents complaining about their kids lack of a work habits even while getting A's. Then they struggle in college because they never learned to study. There are some C's and B's that should have been As but the kid had no study habits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t care what the work habits are - that is leftover babyish elementary crap. If my kid is getting As, he has good work habits period. We don’t need the extra feedback.

You couldn't be more wrong and naive if you tried

An A corresponds to good work habits period.

Yeah, no. An A can be had with haphazardly turning in homework and doing a decent job on quizzes and tests. A kid breezing through a class does not mean that they have good work habits. It could mean that they are in the wrong level of a class, maybe they should be in honors or AP/IB, but it doesn't automatically mean that they are making their best effort.

And your kid could be getting an A and then distracting other kids, which would be an issue.

This is high school. A kid getting an A in an honors class or AP class is definitely going to get “CO” on work habits. Case in point - my kid got straight As and all COs.

Nah. With the late work policy a kid could turn in all classwork/homework 2 weeks late and still have an A. That's not CO though. I gave several As/SOs in my AP class. Not a lot, but a few.

[Anonymous]

My kid either got As in Bio or bad quiz grades. They got an IN.

[Anonymous]

I forgot there was an actual report card and glad the gradebook was back up. Who cares about the report card. I only looked at it because of this thread and to try to see the comments. I feel bad the teachers had one more thing to autofill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Below from FCPS announcements that went out today. New “Work Habits” scores that will now be on final transcripts but will be on quarterly report cards to give “feedback on students’ time management, organization, assignment completion, and overall effort in class.”

Question for teachers-is this helpful for YOU to have students/parents know this? Doesn’t the grading of at least 7 formative and 2 summatives a quarter give this same information? If formatives show failing grades, doesn’t that already tell students/parents about assignment completion and overall effort, etc.? How is a work habit score different/separately helpful?

For teachers that have to implement this, what is the new info that a work habits score gives that makes it worth your time to do yet even more grading? This just seems like more work for teachers for no reason so wondering what I am missing?

“Changes to Middle and High School Report Card Feedback

With the first quarter of the school year ending on Friday, October 31, families can expect student report cards to be available the week of November 10.
FCPS has revised the way teachers provide feedback on report cards, so you may notice some new comments. Specifically, comments have been revised to provide more detailed feedback for students and families.
Also, teachers will now include a Work Habits mark each quarter for each student. This scale provides feedback on students’ time management, organization, assignment completion, and overall effort in class. This is meant as feedback to families and will not appear on a student’s transcript.
View the Middle and High School Grading and Reporting webpage for more information (https://www.fcps.edu/academics/grading-and-reporting/secondary-school?utm_campaign+=&utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery#accordion-section-91082).

Our high school did not do these this quarter. It's Westfield we are lucky if we get progress notes. Are any schools actually doing these?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t care what the work habits are - that is leftover babyish elementary crap. If my kid is getting As, he has good work habits period. We don’t need the extra feedback.

This whole thing is weird and unclear.

[Anonymous]

I haven’t read all the comments but with a kid that has ADHD, I like this additional feedback. He received As in two AP classes and it turns out he did not have good work habits in class. We only found out when he asked for college recommendations and received lukewarm responses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We questioned the difference between IN and SO at my school, and no administrator knew the answer. We were all kind of flying blind here considering we were told about this less than a week before our grades were due.

so you scored 100+ kids on a scale of what you did not understand? This is a shame.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We questioned the difference between IN and SO at my school, and no administrator knew the answer. We were all kind of flying blind here considering we were told about this less than a week before our grades were due.

so you scored 100+ kids on a scale of what you did not understand? This is a shame.

DP. There was zero context provided from administrators or Central Office at my school or any other school as far as I know. Everyone was flying blind. I expect a lot of people to be upset about this at the upcoming STAC session. The new comments are terrible, too. We are no longer allowed to put accurate comments, including "absences affect achievement". The kids who are chronically absent and don't try to get online and make up any work or skipping class are mostly the same kids who get Ds and Fs but for some reason we aren't supposed to acknowledge that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We questioned the difference between IN and SO at my school, and no administrator knew the answer. We were all kind of flying blind here considering we were told about this less than a week before our grades were due.

so you scored 100+ kids on a scale of what you did not understand? This is a shame.

DP. There was zero context provided from administrators or Central Office at my school or any other school as far as I know. Everyone was flying blind. I expect a lot of people to be upset about this at the upcoming STAC session. The new comments are terrible, too. We are no longer allowed to put accurate comments, including "absences affect achievement". The kids who are chronically absent and don't try to get online and make up any work or skipping class are mostly the same kids who get Ds and Fs but for some reason we aren't supposed to acknowledge that.

Honestly who cares? Those kids won’t amount to anything anyway if they have Ds and Fs. A comment isn’t going to change their ways.