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so D's should keep the shutdown going until first week of Nov., so that everyone can see what they are fighting for. |
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My former colleague who works on the Hill said to plan for November, possibly through Thanksgiving. I initially was skeptical but now think it could go longer than that.
We are definitely forgotten, and I am starting to feel a little despondent that things will actually open up. The Rs hate us and the Dems do not give a crap about federal workers. Not trying to make the political, but they knew the risks of a shutdown for us and did this anyway. Applying for shutdown paycheck loans through Navy Federal this week. |
very few people in the US are impacted. to me it further demonstrates how bloated the bureaucracy has become. i think many others see the same. only the folks inside beltway sucking at the taxpayer trough are having a bad time. |
It's because you're being shielded by the math tricks, reserve budgets, and people working without pay. I've personally worked through every single shutdown. |
I’m sorry. It sucks, but Im ok with the Dems prioritizing the big picture right now. They have little leverage and can’t just let themselves be consistently steamrolled. This is so much bigger than that. |
No one is impacted because shutdown mostly means work without pay. Approximately 62% of federal workers are still working during the shutdown, while around 38% have been furloughed and are not working. The 38% not working are largely long term work, like research and developing policy, approving regulatory applications, data collection. They aren’t day to day services the average American would notice within two weeks. Policies that are 6 months old or a lack of data for a year, things would start to get l weird. Supreme Court could make a ruling, and agencies would not have staff to change policy to match. |
The statement—made repeatedly on this board—drives me crazy. You do realize that low paid government workers don't have this luxury, right? That the only reason you can make statements like this is because you make enough money to have savings or you have a spouse with a private sector income? That some government workers are worried about paying their rent and feeding their kids? I’m so glad you can afford to o home a belief that deprives you of an income, but many cannot, so don’t speak for them. JFC, the absolute privilege and detachment from reality of some people who purport to be liberals. |
I don’t disagree, but we could make the argument that going back without an ACA compromise/solution is sticking it to regular Americans who can’t afford their health insurance anymore. It sucks both ways. |
One party wants to make sure healthcare is affordable for the most vulnerable. The other party controls the House, Senate and Presidency, doesn’t give an F about healthcare costs, and COULD reopen the government tomorrow by doing away with the filibuster in the senate but is choosing not to. But yes, the liberals are the problem. lol |
Even though most federal workers are not in DC? Yo will be relieved to know that non defense feds only are responsible for 4% of the federal budget. For that you get National Parks, Wild Fire Protection, a space program, highways, school lunches for hungry kids, weather forecasts...I could go on. |
| I give its two more weeks. |
| Actually three - they are waiting until after the Virginia election. |
NP. I'm the breadwinner in my house and definitely worried. I did not want a shutdown, in part because I thought it would be difficult to get out of once it started. And maybe it would have been better to let people experience the high premiums that are the foreseeable results of their vote. However, now that we're here, I don't think it will be better for feds if Dems fold now and get nothing out of this exercise. I don't want to go through this and end up with less protection because they backed down. |
No. The inability of people who purport to be liberal but live in an UMC bubble and have never met people who have struggled financially are the problem. This is why Dems lost in 2024 - the repeated denials that inflation was an issue when people could see it in their own grocery budgets, the inability to understand that people are struggling financially. The statement by a high paid federal worker that they are willing to sacrifice a paycheck for health care subsidies is this attitude in a microcosm. I get what the Senate Dems are trying to do. The subsidies are expiring and people’s premiums are going to skyrocket - this is a terrible thing. Possibly Dems should have done a better job making that point in the election and, you know, actually won some races. But their position that federal workers—some of whom make $43,000 per year and work in stressful conditions—should be expected to sacrifice and face layoffs so that a family at 400% of the federal poverty level doesn’t lose subsidies is not morally or politically justifiable. |
Same, I make 2/3 of our household income as a mid-level fed and I don't see how we get out of this mess...but if Dems give up, and accept that from now on they will be passing every Republican budget without being involved in negotiations at all, and have zero power to stop impoundment...you see how that's even bigger than ACA subsidies. It means absolute rule with no brakes. Also? The administration has said pretty clearly they have plans to fire large swathes of my agency. If you're a non-LE or DoD fed and you haven't been prepping to be without income for the last 6+ months, whether by savings or job searching or side gigs, you've had your head in the sand. |