What % did your 3rd grade full-time center AAP student score on the fall MAP test for math?
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Scores are given as percentiles, there is no 100 percentile. Anyone over a certain score will be in the 99th percentile. Think of a normal distribution, the tails are long and thin. There will be a lot of scores represented in those thin tails but only a few of each of those scores, relative to the scores in the 50th percentile. This is a case where 50th percentile means that the person is average, and that is the largest grouping in the chart. DS is in Geometry, his raw score was a 291, 99th percentile. I seem to recall that was something like 40+ points higher than the norm. |
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| The percentile alone is not enough information because a lot of children in AAP will get in this range but many raw scores qualify. My dc had a 227 and is in third grade. First time taking this test. |
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https://www.nwea.org/uploads/MAP-Growth-Norms-Technical-Manual.pdf
The grade level/subject level norms star on page 37, which is page 44 in the PDF, interestingly, they don't go above the 95th percentile. https://www.nwea.org/resource-center/fact-sheet/87992/MAP-Growth-2025-norms-quick-reference_NWEA_onesheet.pdf/ Quick fact sheets These seem to be off the last school years testing cycle. The FCPS information sent home does not include the RIT scores, which is a measure of growth. I know my kid took the MAP last year as a 7th grader in the fall and spring but we never saw a document comparing the fall and spring scores and nothing in the document from this year provides me a RIT score. Most kids entering AAP will have scores above the 95th percentile. The wealthier the school you are at, the higher those scores are going to be. 99th percentile in the nation might not be 99th percentile in FCPS, it might be 95th percentile. And while this is the first time many ES kids are taking the MAP, there will be kids with scores in the 290's and into the 300's because the test is inherently, a math test. It is structured a bit differently then the iReady and other standardized assessments, but it is a math test. Kids were given problems based on their grade level and the test adjusted what problems the kids got based on their answers. I would expect that most kids in AAP will be in the 275s or higher on the MAP. Those are the scores that show above average learning and start to really push into high performance in the next grade levels material. But that is pure conjecture on my part. |
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A MAP percentile simply shows how a student performs compared to the US public-school population in the same grade and season. It doesn’t reflect what students should know, nor how they’d compare in more selective or advanced academic settings. For example, a 99th percentile score means the RIT is higher than 99% of students in that national sample, but that sample includes many under-resourced districts across the country. In a high-performing system like FCPS, a large share of students naturally cluster at the top, partly due to stronger instruction, enrichment opportunities, and family support. So while a 99th percentile score is absolutely an excellent result, it can sometimes create a false sense of exceptionalism if interpreted as “top 1% nationwide” in an absolute sense. These norms exclude most private and international schools, where expectations and curricula are often more accelerated, and their inclusion would likely shift national averages downward. I mention this because both my children routinely score in the 99th percentile, yet it’s clear there’s still plenty for them to learn compared with top private-school or international peers. The MAP is a useful growth tool, but it measures progress within a broad U.S. context that’s, frankly, academically uneven. |
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| My third grader is 90th percentile and he scored the lowest in the 3rd grade aap class. Other kids were all 95/99 percentile. |
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How could you possibly know the other classmates MAP scores. This is very creepy if you know this but I guess today is Halloween so not surprised you decided to creep us out! |
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You would be amazed at how much parents and students share. It is crazy. |
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So, then my non aap kid scored higher than your aap kid... |
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Mine scored 87% percentile on MAP in 6th and always scored high 80s or low 90s on iready, even lower once or twice going back to 1st or 2nd grade, esp on fall testing.
Does completely fine on AAP math schoolwork and unit tests though. COGAT taken twice (we paid for it prior to FCPS then FCPS automatically did it as we did not tell the school) and math was in the low 80th percentile on one and high 90s only a few months later. |
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| This. My kid got in 80s and 90 percentiles (and maybe lower) and 99th in WISC. All of this is a crapshoot. Seriously. He’s a straight A student in AAP in 8th grade. His standardized tests didn’t mean much when it came to actual hard work. Some kids did great on these tests and bombed when it was time to work hard (like in algebra or geometry where you NEED to work hard.) AAP honestly isn’t about “gifted” frankly. It’s smart kids who should also have ability to work hard. In life, we NEED to work hard. He’s done way better than the kids who did have crazy high scores on cogats and nnats. |
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| I just feel so bad for the Gen Ed kids who are scoring higher than these aap kids. They also would benefit from learning how to work, that not everything is always easy, and that no, they don't know everything |
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| Mine is in 4th AAP and got 85th percentile on the MAP. Teacher said this was pretty average for their class. |
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| 96% for my DD who is already in full-time in third grade. |
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| 98% for one and 99% for the other in AAP |
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In terms of percentiles, the kids in my AAP class who do well in math or who excel got 99th percentile, with a few 96th-ish. The kids in the low 90s have to work a little harder. The ones who legit struggle are in the high 80s. My lowest kid is 83rd and he’s one I’m not sure is even going to pass SOL. I was actually impressed with how consistently the MAP scores track with what I’m seeing in class.
The only issue is all the parents who think 99th percentile means their kid is absolutely brilliant and should be double-accelerated. Nope, that’s 60% of my class. National norms. |